Risking My Life at the Worst-Rated Flying School | One Star Reviews 

Victory flight school here in dallas/ft worth tx. Let me take you up in the s211 jet trainer. You will love .it. Lets take vice up top gun style baby!

Surely they asked him for it, I could never imagine a CFI performing a spin on a normal discovery flight.

Bahahaha first maneuver is a spin = asking for trouble from frightened or sick student. But it was funny. I miss flying the Aerobat

Little fun fact, in Canada, Spin training is a requirement, obviously for a introductory it is very odd, but I mean hey why not 😆

Lmao exactly what I was thinking. Pedro seems like a great CFI

This has to be staged or perhaps he was requested. There is no way the intro flight includes a spin haha

Most likely it was because of another bad or crazy teacher

He didnt learn that barrel roll from Stable Stan

To be honest it may have to do with the attitude he kept towards the reporter. it was kind of apologising. I think instead, he should have thanked the reporter for this opportunity to clear things out but, at the same time, address the fact that is embarrassing and that they respect every qualifications with attention to the customer's experience and quality of the planes.

@@oopsioded he is embarrassed for them. He is a Pilot, not customer service, next he will be expected to perform brain surgery in the air with one hand on the stick for that 6th star. I want to see how you act, in the air, looking out for someone else's life, and caught off guard. I am so proud of this Canadian and his interaction and help with helping Canadian business. That is a 'no brainer'.

@@mauriceetal1426 I get a sense of hostility from your comment but maybe it's me. I just said my opinion with a "may" in front. sorry if I was offensive to you or anyone else.

This is an awesome reply. Most people don’t understand. A flight school having an Aerobat is 🤟🤟👌

Also having an experienced commercial pilot and training captain is even better. Most flight schools are CFIs just born out of the bank end of the very school they are teaching at.

it is extremely sad to see pilots with this much experience relegated to this

@@mbs6585 Maybe so but its a blessing for anyone he teaches.

That's awesome to see!! Go Pedro👍👍

Vice wanted some spice

Well said! I’m guessing he must have asked.

Seems an effective tool against an inflight interview if you ask me. ;)

Agree...i would never do a spin on a discovery but Pedro is very competent and skilled.

Spinning a first time student like that, if it was not discussed beforehand (and it doesn't look like it was), is a terrible idea. It's not going to impress anyone, and is likely to intimidate and scare the student. If that's what happened, it was all to indulge the CFI.

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Whoa whoa whoa spoilers

Welcome to Cannada

Most schools have many instructors as they typically do it part time, so they need a lot to fill in time slots. Probably got one of the good ones at this school.

@@sonei985 could be two instructors and it's fifty fifty whether you get an instructor who's crashed planes or not.

oh come on they're not that intelligent give them a break

Zulu Papa Victor lol

there is a part where it isnt blurred

Good thing you can see it at 4:50

Also seen at 6:32

Yes

The woman lasering his balls was the craziest

lol yup it's the best part

i dont its repetitive and annoying

That's sort of the premise of the show

Right? People show up thinking it’s gonna feel like a 747

Yea but that’s not any duct tape we had the same ones in our cessena’s it’s made specifically for planes

damn now I feel spoiled I fly a modern 2012 diamond DA40

Duct tape? Then its ok!

We have all had a basket case Cessna 150/152/172 or a twin.

Did he blackmail you to say that

I came to the comments to say something like this. Pedro is cool!

That’s interesting because pretty sure if you look back at his first few videos on here it’s nothing but hate comments

@@Pataganja huh

@@Pataganja what on earth are you on about?

@@Pataganja Pedro is the flight instructor. I think you've mistaken him with Taji, the host.

I remember someone from the hippie commune left a comment on one his videos saying Taji is doesn't tell them the premise of the show, he just asks to film them for a show. He should be upfront and just tell this people "hey do you want a chance to address and defend yourselves?" I feel like the buisness always feels ambushed when he starts asking about the bad reviews lol.

I agree

@@billblaski9523 except then they would be on their best behavior and not act like they usually do

Yes, I feel he was asking the wrong guy. I mean Pedro is just the instructor. He should have addressed the issues with the management.

@@MrRaulstrnad Exactly. Not to mention they already give him the best service anyone has ever gotten because he's coming to film them which will make or break their business.

Exactly! Sounds to me like the reviewers were a bunch of weak snowflakes who have no business flying an airplane anyway.

Great video!

fr u could see how happy he is

There need to be more flight instructors like this... he's an experienced pilot who has gone back to teaching because he loves it. Unfortunately most Canadian instructors it's their first job after they receive their commercial license. They're only instructing for their own experience and logging flight hours until they can get a job with an airline.

I agree.

@osama bin Laden I Bet you do agree😂

How does a 10,000 hour pilot spin out of a stall on accident?

Pedro must've briefed the Taji beforehand about it hopefully

@@markdpua well, I am a CFI too. I know I would never do a spin with student on their first flight. That’s a great way to get puked on and scare someone off of flying.

@@djlambert625 that’s showbiz for ya :D

Winnipeg lol

From the competition

Thats so cool a lot of these episodes make me sad because some of them dont deserve the hate they get.

Yooo I'm a big fan of your movies, especially Taken

​@@nefreston8503 haha so close!

Can't fly in space sky is still the limit

@@ERROR204. NASA and Soviet space programme - "are we a joke to you?"

"Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there're footprints on the moon"

@@ERROR204. SpaceX says otherwise. Commercial, Civilian Space Flight.

hhhwhat??

Sounds about right

they might have other instructor who is a maniac Just guessing

@@wildrose8053 It's possible, but just judging from what they were saying about their planes was absolutely incorrect. A flight school wouldn't stay open with having unflyable planes.

Or a competing flight school...

SAMIR, YOU ARE BREAKING THE CAR!!!

That part killed me LOL. 100% truth though

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Would you trust your wife with Pedro

@@vylanradio that's an important question

Yeah Pedro seems legit. Generally it would be considered a bit unfair/unreasonable to expect your average flight instructor himself to have to speak to reviews of the business, especially if they’re really old when he didn’t work there (only been there 2 years) unless Pedro himself runs the entire flight school.. the reviews are going to be from people that paid for an entire package of flight training (weeks/months), including a lot of flight time/ground training, and again it was likely prior ownership/leadership/instructors/employees that contributed to that, none tied directly to Pedro, he seems like a friggin saint. These flight schools churn through flight instructors, owners, ground school trainers pretty regularly, just the nature of the small/local flight school “industry”, these folks tend to move on to bigger companies, bigger/more complex planes, earning them more certifications, qualifying them to fly/train people on planes that Pedro’s school may not even have available in their hangar. It’s also common for everyday folks to be shocked by the apparent old age of the planes, often from the 70’s/80’s (at best) but again this is common industry-wide. The important bits on a plain are federally mandated to be operating in top condition, a costly annual event, on top of all the other regular maintenance items required. It’s unlikely you’ll find any flight school with the money to buy new planes, nor those made in the last 20-30 years, as it makes zero financial sense when a 30 year old plane is still $60k or whatever, and will require the exact same level of annual inspection cost, exact same cost to store the plane, to operate it daily in terms of fuel (okay a newer one will be a little more fuel efficient but that’s negligible if you have to spend $150k to get it), and fundamentally,’the planes will “fly/operate” very similarly, despite the 30-40 year age difference. Just comes down to physics/fundamental laws of nature as it relates to an aircraft in the air. Again sure a $200k new plane will be a little smoother, brake better, have all digital dash etc... but that’s a not realistic experience, any actual pilot will not start out in a $200k new Cessna. It’s gunna be a 1972, just like the one they trained on, cause that’s what makes financial sense in both cases. Almost end rant. I will say that it seems a little strange that Pedro went from being a commercial pilot (NO easy feat, costly to obtain sufficient training, pays well) to a small/local flight instructor working with beginners. But, maybe he prefers that. His personality certainly seems well-fit for working with beginners, and he’s likely certified to train more experienced pilots on other aircraft they may not happen to have in their own personal hanger (e.g. multi-engine etc.). In summary, I’d trust Pedro with my life, especially considering he’s a former commercial pilot, it takes a LOT to get to that level, even if he had to step down from it for one reason or another. Edit to add formatting and this context: I’ve taken a few ‘discovery flights’ with more than one local flight school, coincidentally I also happened to fly with an operator in Vancouver, though that was a heli...

I was gonna like but it's at 169

Most of the instructors there are absolutely amazing. However a single instructor has done so much to bring the schools reputation down. I don't think it is truly a one star school, but it does not compare well to the other schools in the area.

And Pedro is awesome, I flew with him exactly once and it was an incredibly informative flight especially from someone with his experience in the field.

Almost all cfi where I go will yell and scream at u mid air XD to " put pressure on you "

The CFI holds the entire representation of a flight school unfortunately. The school I work for had a couple of.. er... bad CFI’s. Every negative review for our school was written by students who were with these CFI’s. Once this was discovered they were terminated from employment.

@@Rahmanooooo Fucking hate that. People at my school have quit over that.

Idk about that. you don’t do spin on introduction flight

@@mejus161 yeah...

@@mejus161 well I agree with you there. But they (producers) could have asked for that and edited to look like it was random what we saw. I would have told him “Sterile Cockpit”, with all them questions before landing lol. He nicer then me

true

@@mejus161 He more than likely requested it or was asked if it would be ok.

Employee I guess

@@vaxar0753 haha no he's not lol, that guy has his own channel and you can see his place of work is different

Im thinking this is in Abbottsford, am I right? Just based on the background it looks like Abbotsford.

Yeah that sucks. He was an Airline pilot too.

sokkim martin airline piloting sucks. My uncle was a pilot and explained it like a bus driver in the air. Boring and repetitive. The small planes is the fun stuff. Or jet pilots. Trust me Pedro probly loves this much better.

@@kaitlin4u it pays well though. If you can handle the grinding boredom.

bro, I so feel you on Nathan for you, what a wonderful and hilarious show

@@vovak7289 I would put cash into a gofundme right now to help finance just one more season of that brilliant show. I still introduce people to it on Hulu.

@@spliffnotes8359 facts, I 100% would support that project

Nathan For You is GOATed.

Gotta check out that Nathan one

All instructors do this every time. Until you get your check ride you will probably see your instructor hover the controls.

Nah that’s what instructors do so they can get u to keep coming back, every introduction flight is pretty much like this

You know that both the sticks work at the same time so if the pilot pulls back the co pilot yoke will be pulled back so this is impossible haha

On turns I imagine he used the rudder on his side to keep the turn coordinated. But other than that, Taji was the pilot. A CFI did that for me on my discovery flight as well.

@@Physicized right rudder! I was the worst at that for the longest, always had to wake up my feet before I did maneuvers

Agreed I just don’t agree with introducing a spin on the first flight that probably would’ve scared me away from flying 😂

Could be editing trix

Maybe it was asked for lel

He was good but those tires were done for last year!

@@dustindurben6549 they have one plane that is rated for aerobatics, it is almost certain that they used that one for the initial flight at the customer's request

THIS IS NOT THE SCOOP BUCKO

Yep

🙌

Yep

Scoopers

Yeah

I think this is probably my favourite comment on anything ever 😂

^^ +1 hah

I laughed to but its just a preplanning form typically Part 141 schools do to have their students prove they did their weight & balance planning as well as other tasks and sign that they have done it.

@@gerryortiz7276 Canada so FTU or 705 (Also not actually a legal requirement)

@@isaaccool3183 Where in my message did i say it was a legal requirement? And yes i forgot its Canada not America.

Some airports are even famous for there's, in MSFS there is a landmark of one of the largest ones around.

lmfao☠☠ "wreckage"

@@City0fTroy I’m weak 😅

Exactly, but for people unfamiliar with this view the disassembled planes can be portrayed as “wreckage”. That’s pretty misleading Vice...

Its still a wreckage

Hahaha, definitely depends on the student 😂

Sometimes you gotta make a statement lol it is the same thing with driving instructors,you do something really dumb ... you get yell at so you really get it lol :D

It’s because everyone a giant pussy nowadays

@@WimsicleStranger Hey you're being sexist I'm calling the manager!

It absolutely is automatically a bad thing, especially when it comes to flight lessons. Yelling in the cockpit is counterintuitive, 100%

One like for a furloughed pilot!

He was one of my instructor in 2019. I am not sure if he was furloughed but to my knowledge, there weren't a ton of furloughs in 2019

@@markdpua Oh wow!

Exactly the first thing I thought lol

No his contract with his airline ended and all expat pilots were released

I agree, but I doubt they would do that on a discovery flight unless asked. Spin recovery is a fun thing to practice though.

@Raphael Häußermann What's your point?

@Raphael Häußermann No it's a spin. There is a difference

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What are some good flight schools/CFIs in Toronto?

Now that's a review for the masses.

@@brokentombot Haha ya on my intro flight at a flight school (I won’t name them) there were a ton of administrative errors and we had to go back because they charged me the wrong price.

@@noahfremont6310 the flight school on toronto island YTZ is good, or there's brampton flight center which is good as well

And more Pedros

Check out philipsolotv hes the one who's been posting videos like this with one star reviews

Yeah.... so check out PhillipSolo who did it before everyone else

PhilipSoloTV started the one star thing way before vice. He’s canada based. He also has a similar persona. I recommend him over vice

Yes and no. I will not elaborate.

Comment on here said he’s got 10k hours and everyone loves him. How’d that training go?

Had me dying. 😂💀

As Taji himself said, that's a good thing. Means Pedro was focused on the flight all the time and didn't let himself get distracted.

Normally in-flight conversations are reserved to when you are at altitude and cruise, not when doing pattern work. Even then, performing a flying video interview might not be the safest practice. The instructor seemed very professional.

"Would you like to leave a positive review before I land us?"

Agreed with everything you say. One of the flight schools I instruct for have 172s that still have ash trays. I’m 22 years old and rarely do I ever instruct in a plane younger than I am. It’s normal territory. If you don’t want to pay an extra $50-$100 a flight go fly older aircraft. They get beat up every day anyways with smash and goes so why would a school buy brand new 172s? My main school just got a brand new $600k 172 gifted from Cessna since we won some video contest, but that’s the newest plane by at least 15 years.

I think Pedro went for the spin because of 3:09. He probably thought that Taji was an adrenaline junkie and wanted to learn some cool moves.

Absolutely no reason to do spins on a first flight lesson. Very poor decision.

@@dekeama I mean you don’t know what led them there. He could’ve asked for it. It’s not a terrible idea either bc if they’re taught spins from the very beginning they’ll know how to avoid them

@@designedbybold I think it's kind of good that they show just how easy it is so long as you keep your cool to recover from something that, to a non-flyer, would seem "catastrophic". Like, Pedro's super calm demeanor through the whole thing had to sort of break in a sense of "well, this isn't so bad" about the experience.

Same I always get so invested when the 4th star comes and I really like the business hahaha

Well he wasn’t the first with the idea sooo can’t credit him

Philipsolo actually was the first with the idea on RU-vid and it was the reason his channel blew up. Vice blatantly stole the idea and gave him 0 credit just a few weeks later once he started gaining notoriety.

@@tacotuesday5858 his plane idea was posted after this

@@drizzyjizzes3884 he's been doing it for years. You people don't understand the whole premise is "trying out the worst rated (anything) in my city" and he came up with it. The more dangerous (like tattoos and motels) the better.

@@Shakshuka69 so he actually copied this specific idea if you think about it

Anything to secure the bag lmfao 🤣

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To be fair to Pedro, he knew what he was doing.

I love this guy

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Well that's not how it works in aviation, but you can say they have run over the protocols very well.

Fly muthaphukka fly!!

There no reward though

Hrm, hardly a universal rule lol

I don’t think that works here

they do it way better tho

@@theselenashow1 wrong.

This was released before his video

@@HotDiceMiniatures his videos are like 4 minutes long , is super random and he never actually properly reviews the place or talks to the owners.

Agree, spins are a bit much for an intro flight or first lesson and there really isn't much to gain from seeing them at that stage. I'm wondering if that's normal for the flight school or if he was asked to do the craziest manuever just to make the video exciting.

I’m a student who’s done enough spins to be comfortable with them. That being said I wouldn’t have wanted to do them on my first lesson that’s for sure. Spiral dives at the absolute most.

Well, he did specifically ask for it and flail his arms to further clarify he was up 4 some action

I came here to say this. Private pilot myself... we didn't get into spin recovery till well into my flight training. No idea why you would spin a first time student. Other than that, he actually seemed like a very good instructor.

Maybe he wasn’t doing this as a lesson but more as a familiarisation flight.

Cmon we can give this more than 26 likes .he risked his life..like jack😁...what is that series..Lol🤣🤣

Pedro too

For sure he was a legend!

did you notice the balance sheet on the right at 3:32? i have never seen this before at a flight school...actually not bad

@@tomholmez1236 Exactly and the 152 looked very well maintained.

CFI: kinda hard to determine if the planes in good shape just by the exterior and some interior. Maintenance log book would be preferred.

@@Viper-One Yeah true but considering the aircrafts age it looked in good condition

Same as a student pilot I don't think the cfi seemed that bad. Keep in mind most ga aircraft are not brand new by any means and are still flying because transport canada has strict maintenance requirements.

Yeah they've got a G430 in a Cessna 150

That’s because it’s all fake, the clown has never once went to a one star place, he’s a habitual liar. It’s common sense, even the best rated one will have 5 stars, you liberals are just too gullible to see the obvious

@@liberalsarethebiggestcryba6654 what a hypocritical user name

@@liberalsarethebiggestcryba6654 careful, all that anger & hatred will develop into a COVID comorbidity

He messed it up but he got the message across

How? He steals all his video ideas from famous videos.

Agreed. This was way above his pay grade

@@ryansmithc care to send links

@@1nonly256 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2CoKnoJL3Ww.html Philipsolo. They robbed it and never credited him. if you go to the first vice video you'll see the same comment.

@@ryansmithc idk if you gave us the right link because apparently the video you linked has the production value of a Christmas home tape, it's boring and overall well under the quality of this series. if you think doing the same genre is "robbing" someone than you're a moron.

Who TF is Pedro?

@@rickjames8660 did you even watch the video

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I feel like he's super chill unless you piss him off lol

I'm glad that he is my flight instructor :)

But pedro was such a nice instructor!

Serious Micheal Scott vibes 🤣

That’s was a load sheet not a waiver

@@EseJandro I voted for Pedro.

@@privatejetowner1186 thats what she said

its quite stupid to get mad at something like that, its an idea not a patented contraption! What do you even want him to say, I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t be satisfied either way.

@@stefanakosmar it’s that I’m mad at this guy in particular, but I think there’s something that doesn’t feel right that Vice, a relatively large Corp which masquerades as some woke medium and then it steals the entire concept without giving any dues or inviting the original maker.

@@docdoom44 Ok so I did a 2 minute research and PhilipSolo uploaded his first worst reviewed vid back in Nov 5 in 2018 and this person from Vice uploaded his some 3 weeks later in Nov 29 2018 so as far as that goes I guess you could technically say he could have copied his idea back then. However I agree with the part of your comment about vice, they have fallen to very low standards of content and ways of framing and producing it. Man miss the golden age of Vice with guys like David Choe and Shane Smith going out to all these places producing interesting and hilarious amateur documentaries. good ol days:(

Facts

This Guy is horrible

They ripped off the idea for this series from some independent RU-vidr can't remember his username tho

@@letereally10 Philip solo

Philip Solo

I doubt any competent instructor would do stalls and spins on a discovery flight unless asked to. Although I did do steep turns during mine. My guess is they asked if they could do something exciting to add drama to the video. Wouldn't be surprised if all the negative reviews were either from a previous issue the school had in the past with a particular instructor or a disgruntled student overreacting.

Stalls are the first manouver after learning to control attitude and power. Spins on the other hand it's usually taught but very unlikely to be performed to PP students.

Yeah Pedro for airplane president ✈️

Why would they need special VFR, they had enough altitude to do spins so the ceilings were at least 3000agl and viz was at least 6 miles. That’s nowhere near VFR minimums in controlled or uncontrolled airspace.

Those ceilings weren't anywhere near SVFR

How is it reckless lmao

@@FG-td4vs because as a pilot flying you should only be focusing on flying the aircraft.(yes Ik Bc I actually fly)

It's called maintaining a sterile cockpit. If you don't know what it means, google costs nothing.

@@loganp.9987 I don’t know what that means

@@loganp.9987 yeah that’s only during critical phases.. do you remain completely quiet like a board during your entire flight? Lol. It’s called situational awareness, if you can’t think and talk at the same time you may just have a learning disability, bud.

Facts

Yes give him å bonus

Why is this so true

nice unoriginal comment lmaoo

@@zherkezhi except this was filmed months ago

Omg you're right I saw it too! Though it's not the trainer's fault because the engine failure occured during flight, and they actually made the right call to land on the highway. Fatalities and damages were listed as zero. If anything, this improves the school's reputation even more. Link to incident report: aviation-safety.net/wikibase/226261 Link to article: globalnews.ca/news/5395348/surrey-highway-plane-landing-follow/

And it was even the same trainer...From the article, "They said U.S. Airways has Sully … and we have Pedro..."

@@genedoc730 yup. He did a great job!

😂

That freaking stall to spin recovery drill was dooope

I think Pedro always has the ability to take control of the air craft if anything happens to go wrong

cfi's will "fly with you" usually they tell what to do and will guide you with their controls because the pilot and co pilot controls are locked together.

I think it was not really the instructor most of the review are on the establishment in general.

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I am wondering if "competitor schools"might have posted negative reviews.

@@TheDexsword yeah like pissed off college students working the front desk, you don't appreciate their job and are just angry all the time

@@TheDexsword What about the planes? They’re in good condition

Didn't sound like he's from Canada...

@@medotaku9360 He could still be a Canadian

@@medotaku9360 he is Canadian in attitude and all that matters

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Yo microphone check 1-2 1-2

Best episodes on Vice 💯

How do I give this 1 star reviewer a 5 star review ?

Why are you dorks wearing a ridiculous face shield? Trying to push this fake pandemic?