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RN Gorizia - Italy's Luckiest Heavy Cruiser? 

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For a certain value of 'lucky', I suppose.
The third of the Zara-class cruisers, Gorizia would ultimately prove to be the sole survivor of the class. She was fortunate enough to miss Cape Matapan, with the result that the cruiser served out the rest of Italy's war. While other ships were able to join the Co-Belligerent Navy, though, Gorizia would not quite be that lucky.
In the end, she was left an abandoned and half-flooded wreck. Yet, she did survive the war, which is something.
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@123JWhyte
@123JWhyte 4 месяца назад
Gorizia is the Italian Prinz Eugan, she is a luck vampire of the class taking all the luck of the class
@Ah01
@Ah01 4 месяца назад
You can consider the Prinz lucky by a mere survival, but it sure had it`s share of mishaps and repairs too. Getting torpedoed with a total stern collapse, ramming a light cruiser etc. And getting nuked is not particularly lucky either? (Sure had a longer commissioned courier than Blücher 😂 )
@anelstarcevic696
@anelstarcevic696 4 месяца назад
Ah, I see, you are a man of foulture as well
@Backwardlooking
@Backwardlooking 4 месяца назад
Always considered these ships to be very handsome. Entirely suitable for the Mediterranean. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@alanh1406
@alanh1406 4 месяца назад
I totally agree.
@Backwardlooking
@Backwardlooking 4 месяца назад
@@alanh1406 Our 🇬🇧 naval architects had to design warships to serve worldwide and endure far more difficult conditions from Arctic, Atlantic and Pacific gales, as well as the tropics. My father served in the R.N. for five years during W.W.2 from the Arctic, N.& S. Atlantic , and Indian Ocean. He was torpedoed on a Malta convoy, but served on other Malta runs in the Mediterranean. Like other Italian designs and engineering then and since although beautiful I’d question their reliability.
@kevinyoung9557
@kevinyoung9557 4 месяца назад
The Italians had some beautiful ships.
@RayyMusik
@RayyMusik 4 месяца назад
Basically agreed; however, I don’t like the extremely narrow arrangement of the main gun barrels in one cradle.
@maxart3392
@maxart3392 4 месяца назад
There's some (unplanned) symbolism about this class: these ships were named after the towns formerly belonging to Austro-Hungarian empire and passed to Italy after the WW I. Three of them were sunken, those that were bearing the names of the towns that Italy lost after the WW. II (Pola/Pula, Fiume/Rijeka, Zara/Zadar), while Gorizia remained afloat, as the town of Gorizia remained part of Italy. Some stuff for those who believe in conspiracy theories (I guess).
@lukasito100
@lukasito100 4 месяца назад
I always fought the same lost cruisers/ lost cities . Bolzano was sunk too but the town stayed Italian , but it was not realy lost in a combat
@DragonShadowfire1
@DragonShadowfire1 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much for giving the Italian Regio Marina some much deserved attention. It is truly amazing how many people have to be reminded about the Italians involvement in the Mediterranean during the Second World War. I'm also glad you chose this heavy cruiser especially...because I had been getting her name wrong for so many years up until this vid! I always thought her name was "Garizia", but that was incorrect. Gorizia is a fascinating heavy cruiser because I hardly knew anything about her, but I do recall hearing that she was the last one of her class as a result of the Battle of Cape Matapan. I concur with your sense that the mood on board was probably very tense, and very somber in the wake of the losses suffered in the aforementioned battle...it was probably like most of the crew felt as if they'd lost a family member, or enraged at being left out of what should have been the class as a whole being sunk. She did seem to have something of a luck streak, and unfortunately, also seems to have been something of a luck vampire. How her story ends left me with mixed emotions. It was sad to see her just dragged out to port unceremoniously by the Germans, and just left there like some unwanted tugboat...but I was particularly moved by the fact that she stubbornly stayed afloat despite all the damage she took. She was listing horribly, but it's like she just indignantly stuck her heels in the dirt and refused to go under. I always adore ships that seem to have a spunk about them. IJN Haguro, USS Hornet, and HMS Repulse come to mind. Thank you again for an awesome video, and for helping me to improve as a maritime historian! Can't wait for more vids on the Regio Marina. Maybe give the Ciao Duilio a shot? Her captain was later involved in the sinking of cruiser ship Andrea Doria, but also helped to save almost everyone on board. Can't wait for the next one!
@RayyMusik
@RayyMusik 4 месяца назад
9:40 Wait a minute - the Zaras had their aircraft catapult on the bow? Quite unique, but at least it explains why avgas tanks were also located there.
@SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat
@SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat 4 месяца назад
My favorite heavy cruiser finally gets some respect!
@navyreviewer
@navyreviewer 4 месяца назад
True story time Gibralter harbor master: Sure we can bring your treaty cruiser into dry dock. What weight should we set the blocks up for? Italian captain: 10,000 tons of course. Gibralter harbor master: You do know if we set them up for the wrong weight the ship could fall over or brake in half..... Italian captain: Just to be safe you better set it for 15,000 tons.
@katrinapaton5283
@katrinapaton5283 4 месяца назад
Interesting that the British didn't make a big deal about it though I suspect at the time Mussolini was not a fan of Herr Hitler.
@SennaAugustus
@SennaAugustus 2 месяца назад
@@katrinapaton5283 The British were the only ones who needed the treaty and the only ones who followed it to the letter (with one breach when constructing Unicorn). Everyone else attempted to follow the limits but broke off whenever they couldn't.
@katrinapaton5283
@katrinapaton5283 2 месяца назад
@@SennaAugustus I do find it interesting though that Mussolini would have sided with the British and the French over Czechoslovakia but when they showed weakness and gave in to Hitlers demands he sided with Germany instead. A case of what might have been.
@RossEphgrave
@RossEphgrave 4 месяца назад
Italy built beautiful ships. Underrated, under-utilized and very capable.
@tomyorke3412
@tomyorke3412 4 месяца назад
When people say the Italian navy in WW2 i just think of the The Fritz X bomb that had a spectacular success in 1943 when the Germans used it to sink the Italian battleship Roma.
@Ah01
@Ah01 4 месяца назад
Roma took quite extensive punishment from Fritz`s. Warspite suffered a close call as well. As Roma got another Fritz X - hit, coup de grace, Warspite did not even when floating helplessly dead in the water. Eventually it was protected and saved.
@CaptCondor
@CaptCondor 4 месяца назад
happily reading and seeing more about the ships, tactics and history of the Regia Marina coming out over the last years. indeed they are very overlooked and boiled down to the Taranto Raid and Cape Matapan.
@stephenchaiser5082
@stephenchaiser5082 4 месяца назад
Best naval reviewer out there imo
@davidrenton
@davidrenton 4 месяца назад
Gorizia i'm not overweight, just big boned
@oceanhome2023
@oceanhome2023 4 месяца назад
12:09 The crew takes a shower from 2 huge water buckets spraying the entire crew ! Probably unavailable outside of the home port . Must feel good to get that salt water off of you !
@JGCR59
@JGCR59 4 месяца назад
The funny thing was the naming, basically all of those were annexed cities from other countries. Zara and Fiume were in Dalmatia but arguable had been Venetian for centuries, while Gorizia was Görz in South Tyrol annexed after WW1 and subjected to an (ultimately unsuccessful) 90 year attempt at forced italianization. Basically this class was the Irredentismo class
@SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat
@SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat 4 месяца назад
Gorizia is italian🇮🇹
@maxart3392
@maxart3392 4 месяца назад
Görz isn't in Südtirol. This part of K. und K. was Küstenland.
@lukasito100
@lukasito100 4 месяца назад
Gorizia is near Triest. Patrially Nova Gorica now in Slovenia
@paullaw1438
@paullaw1438 4 месяца назад
A very welcome study of a neglected ship. It is refreshing to hear a balanced and informed account both of Italian ships and the actions of the Italian navy. The latter is often unjustly dismissed as lacking in enterprise and determination, rather than being judged with allowance for the technical and material restraints in which the RM had to operate.
@christineelainestewartcoll7523
@christineelainestewartcoll7523 4 месяца назад
Many people just had a bad opinion of Italy in World War II. but not all Italians were like that
@Leptospirosi
@Leptospirosi 22 дня назад
Most of the fights in the Mediterranean, unlike in the norther sea snd in the Pacific, was conducted at extremely long ranges and the rare hits were generally result of as lucky shot, like Warspite hitting Cesare or Zara hitting a British cruiser in the same battle. Hits were rare by both parts because of destroyer screen covers and extreme range of fight. In the end the Mediterranean saw destroyers doing most of the heavy lifting in the convoy war.
@alanh1406
@alanh1406 4 месяца назад
Have any of the aforementioned Italian wrecks been discovered , dived on and photograph?
@SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat
@SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat 4 месяца назад
I don't think they are found yet
@pvdc229
@pvdc229 4 месяца назад
A video about the tone class would be interesting, dont see much people talk about it
@Ka9radio_Mobile9
@Ka9radio_Mobile9 4 месяца назад
🥰🥰🥰🥰
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 4 месяца назад
Great video! Back in the mid to late 70s I read that the crew of the _Pola_ had gotten drunk after their ship was crippled which led to the loss of her and her sisters. Has anyone else read the same?
@SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat
@SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat 4 месяца назад
It's a mith
@alexzenz760
@alexzenz760 4 месяца назад
Also red similar story. Rescued sailors picked up drunken
@ducadan81
@ducadan81 3 месяца назад
It is a mith, they did drink alcohol but they were not the crew of the sunken ship, they were of another ship, sunken hours before, they have been rescued and given alcohol to drink to get warm. Later on even those ship was sunk and they have been rescued for the second time but this time from British sailors 😂
@hidalgohouse3815
@hidalgohouse3815 4 месяца назад
Not very lucky in WoWs.
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