Road America Turn 13 Crash 5-21-2016 

I made a very rookie mistake of hitting the corner early, trying to go faster. It's very common, and now I spend a lot of time right-seat, trying to help others avoid doing the same thing. :)

Paul Tracy had a big off there in a Champ Car there around 2004. Spun to the right, just like this gentleman, and hit the tire barrier in front of the old bleachers by 14 hard.

Mark Patterson Thanks. I have a new appreciation for what can go wrong at that turn!

Yeah this one wasn't that bad. I was able to pull the dents out, and a friend had an inner tie rod. I was back on track the next day, minus a mirror. Now this one, almost exactly a year later? Much worse. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0HwWUoo-xMY.html

Oh no. Even worse. This was a warm-up lap. I learned a valuable lesson that day.

I think I made the same mistake that can be seen in my roll at Autobahn, roughly a year and a half later. I hit the apex early, tried to cut the corner, and had too much steering angle to try to force the car to turn. This has been a difficult and expensive habit for me to change. In both cases, the car oversteered and went backwards into the inside wall. In this case, it wasn't so bad. In the other, I destroyed the car.

@@owensnicholas Glad you are ok

There's a little bump right at the apex of 13 so I try to avoid getting too close to the curbs there. Good save, hopefully damage was minimal

@@owensnicholas Its hard to see for sure but it looks like you were on cold tires, but more importantly it looks like there was no counter-steer early into the slide. It looked like the nose was still moving/pointing left when the rear was moving right.

@@dc5769 there's so much to unpack in this one crash. I was inexperienced and over-eager. I didn't know how to build speed safely. Thanks for your comment. :)

And then you wasted even more commenting.

Now everyone knows your an a hole. If you were any kind of driver you'd know that you can learn something from anything.