Community activists are backing a man seen on camera who opened fire at a Tesla driver during an alleged road rage incident. They insist the Tesla driver should be charged too.
Good way to stop your pursuer getting in front of you and cutting you off, though. Deliberately going slow while keeping the other party stuck behind you is a valid self-defence tactic in a road rage situation and with only a few seconds of out-of-context video we can't really judge if it was the right one to use here.
He didn't stop in the passing lane. Watch the video. He tried going right and then exiting, but the tailgater was already trying to pass him. The tesla was trying to get out of the way, but the tailgater thought he was trying to stay in front of him. Hence the idiot followed the tesla onto the exit ramp, got in front of him, and opened fire. The fact that these so-called community leaders think it's acceptable for a man to open fire because of that is apalling. I don't think the tesla driver was even trying to be a nuisance. He just happened to react in the wrong way at the wrong time, and the tailgater took it as malice.
@ExplodingCabbage you are so goddamn wrong its offensive. Defensive driving does not mean fucking with other drivers on the road. Get the hell out of the way, don't breakcheck. The truck driver did absolutely nothing wrong.
@@ketaminefetishistNobody mentioned "defensive driving" except you - I said "self-defence". Nobody here is suggesting escalating bullshit or "fucking with" anyone, but at some point during the escalation of a road rage situation like this - and like I said, we DON'T KNOW from this footage whether that point had been passed by the time that contextless 2-second clip happened - you have to stop seeing a road rage incident through that ordinary driving lens, start seeing it through a *combat* lens, and do what's needed to survive and keep other innocents around you alive - traffic laws and norms be damned. And once you're in a combat situation with a criminal, you also need to recognise that compliance does not guarantee safety; submitting to someone making a sport out of attacking you is just choosing to be an accomplice in your own murder.
@@user-sz4uq6lv2i So if I'm being tailgated, I should just get out of the other fellow's way because he's an aggressive driver? If I brake check you it's because I'm worried you're going to rear end me.
@@eddarby469 You're worried someone will hit your car, so you suddenly hit the brakes.... Even though it pretty much ENSURES you get rear-ended?? Makes no sense. If someone is brake checking, they're trying to make you hit them or swerve off the road. Pretty sure break checking people is illegal too, because it can cause fatal wrecks.
@@WaryJester It's not illegal to light up your brakes when someone is tailgating you. This was more than that, however. This was a deliberate action that was meant to impede and put someone in fear of their life. I brake check too; hopefully you'll be behind me one day.
@@unknownalien3837 fair enough, but that's my point too. Brake checking causes accidents if someone isn't paying attention, and this guy could have killed the other driver and his passenger. And with road rage these days, I just motion for tailgaters to pass me. That's casual, direct, and I can get the license plate number to make a report about it if it was super reckless, if there's not a parked patrol car somewhere up ahead. It's sad people have to drive on eggshells around others, but in this case, it almost got someone shot and killed (albeit, he was asking for it). I don't have time to sit in a hospital or die.
As a gun owner, you have to be able to show self control and restrain yourself. You only pull the gun if your life or someone's life is in danger. He did not have to stop and get out of his truck, and pull his gun. He's lucky the guy in the Tesla did not run him over.
But everybody doesn’t have this control and I’m saying this as a gun owner. That’s why we need tighter law, better background checks. If you buying guys for the right reason and u don’t have a history, you’ll go thru the process to buy it with confidence
Yeah but they do have a point, the Tesla isn’t 100% a victim. Tesla did brake check so they should at least get a ticket for that and reckless driving because they also cut lanes to exit.
No one is saying it did...Just that it goes to motive...If "Heavens Gate Tesla" had just moved out of the fast lane, it all would have been easily avoided..."Oh, you just want to pass me? The mighty Musk doesn't permit that from his followers!!!" It's actually pretty IRONIC; "When a stereotype clashes with another stereotype"
The fact the gun owner and his wife don’t understand how serious their crime is, should be enough to revoke their right to own a gun. They’re obviously too emotional and lack the temper,ent and mental capacity necessary to be responsible gun owners.
@@AndreAnyone Funny but you better hope you never have a legal issue. If the DA finds this little comment of yours your attorney will not be able to clean it up enough for the jury.
Brandishing and using your private firearm in public in an non self dense manor, automatically lose your weapon and gun/driver license and serve proper jail time!
@@safeandeffectivelol In no way whatsoever is that self defense. He got ahead of the tesla, forcing him to stop...and then got out and shot at him. Once the tesla was behind him, there was literally no danger
LMAOOO "yall charged the black man and not the white man, this must be racism!!!!" ya boy pulled the blicky out for a traffic dispute...what an outstanding citizen
Your attempt to write hip/slang is just as ignorant as your comment. As misinformed as the lady was, she believed that in fairness, they both should have been charged.
@@carl5438 Obviously she didnt say that. Its implied. That's entitlement to think life is going to be fair to you all the time. There is legal and illegal. You cannot pull a gun out and shoot at someone for brake checking you. At most, he would receive a traffic violation. She wants him arrested. There's nothing fair about that. Her husband should be charged with attempted murder. That would be fair. Take the L. Lose the entitlement. GG's
@@Shiftnlift This reminds me of two little kids arguing and the teacher turning around right as one kid punches the other. The kid who punched the other gets in trouble, and proceeds to whine about why the other kid didn't get the same punishment for arguing. In this case, (it seems...AGAIN SEEMS) like she was mad that someone of her skin color was punished and the other not. You just cant justify shooting at someone for brake checking NO MATTER THEIR SKIN COLOR @Carl.
The guy who opened fire, should have his weapon permanently taken away, and at least 2 too 5 years in prison. Just cause someone is a bad driver, is no reason to pull a weapon.
Brake checking is always a stupid idea and just asking for trouble, and you never know who is on the road because road rage is crazy. I know someone who got shot for flipping someone off in a car so it doesn’t shock me that this happened
That's ridiculous that they thought it was ok to jump out of a car and start firing a weapon for getting break checked. The Tesla driver would have gotten a ticket for reckless driving not warranted an arrest. Both parties were wrong and the truck could've back off change lanes and called police. 😒
The only person charged was the the correct choice. Just because you get brake-checked doesn't mean you get to get out of your vehicle and shoot into another car. How anyone could defend that violent action is beyond me. But, given the usual enabling idiots at the news conference, nothing surprises me.
@John Scott I'm a professional driver of 30 years, brake checking is a threat of life. He was tailgating the idiot in front of him kept slamming on his brakes
@@Casmige umm, this guy is not a police officer. What he did was reckless and stupid beyond words. Obviously he has poor judgment and very low impulse control. A highly emotionally driven individual, which is a sign of immaturity and weak social development. As for when police do it, it's usually to stop a threat of violence toward them or others. They can do it under certain circumstances.
@@droid4d279 It does matter. Tailgating is illegal because it prevents people from being able to see if anyone is behind their car, preventing them from being able to safely move out of your way and also preventing you from having space to stop if they hit the brakes.
Law where I live requires yielding to faster vehicles if you are in left lane. You don't get to set a speed limit for someone else. Tesla driver should have been charged for reckless driving along with charges for the shooter
@@HemiLyfestyle live in a city. Has happened many times and I haul a trailer everyday, little bit tough to stop. No excuse, driver is responsible for following safe distances
@@christopherwebber1104 all my cars have a front facing dash Camera and rest facing dash camera for the reason of people lying In a accident I was in when I was younger, and I do apologize for calling you a "country hillbilly" I'm sorry.
@@HemiLyfestyle you can say whatever you want, i am a bit of a country hillbily, grew up in Iowa, Wisconsin, Hawaii, Colorado. Say what you mean, people need to grow a backbone.
@@thehumanexperience448 Under Texas Transportation Code Ch. 545.401, both tailgating and brake-checking can result in a reckless-driving charge since they both display willful disregard for the safety of others. Equivalent laws exist in every single jurisdiction I'm aware of, including my own. Thus, your claim that the Tesla driver committed the first reckless act is 100% wrong. The driver of the pickup truck is both the instigator of the road-rage incident and the person who turned the road-rage incident into felony aggravated assault. He's in big trouble. As for you, I suggest you brush up on the rules of the road before you find yourself charged for something you didn't know was illegal.
Both drivers should be charged. I never brake check anyone. If someone is behind me and they appear to want to drive faster than me, I simply move to the slower lane. I move back to the fast lane after they have passed me. It's really simple and I get to return home safely to my family. Brake checking and erratic driving can lead to a car accident or worse. It's just stupid.
Watching the video, it seems that the Chevy driver was rather close and aggressive towards the Tesla which prompted him to brake check. If he kept a safe distance like he is supposed to then the driver wouldn’t have brake checked him.
Having more than 10 brain cells tells me he was trying to get the Tesla to MOVE OUT OF THE FAST LANE; Where, he should have been in the first place...And, save it you smooth brain; It doesn't justify shooting him...But, it definitely goes to motive. I would estimate that %90 of road rage incidents stem from people camping in the left lane...All you gotta do is move over; Not that big of a deal...
@@brentfarvors192 exactly that's why I drive the speed limit in the slow lane. Double 5% tint on all windows 20% on front windshield. So I'm shielded from all the weirdos in the outside world
Yes because he was probably going slow. Then on top of brake checking the truck, the truck was going to go around and pass on the right but the Tesla purposely cut them off to exit. Should have just let the truck pass on the right.
The guy with the gun is pretty lucky. If I came up the ramp and somebody was standing next to their truck, blocking my way to pass, pointing a gun and shooting at me, it might be the last thing he ever did. I would aim right for him and the door of his truck, crouch down and hit the potentiometer. I don't know who started the whole scenario, but the minute you start using your car as a weapon or pull a weapon out, all bets are off. My safety comes first.
You do realize that drive towards what your looking at. So once you crouch down you are most likely missing the guy and disabling your car and getting finished off. The correct thing to do is get out of the kill zone. They taught us this in the military if we were ambushed in a vehicle even though we were armed as well. The 99% of the advantage lies with the people outside the vehicle doing the ambush. Your best bet of survival is getting out of range as fast as possible.
The Tesla's autobraking probably would have prevented that... that's one of the downsides of too much automation! Should always have the ability to mow someone down in self defense.
He could have prevented the whole situation by just showing a little "common courtesy", and getting out of the fast lane...Again; NO. It doesn't justify the shooting, but, goes to motive. Yes; I know I have to state that every time, or else get the same ignorant response...
Don't brake check people. Don't shoot at people who brake check you. Last time I got brake checked (after some moron passed almost causing an accident when the lane had already ended) I applied the brakes to avoid rear ending him then kept a safe distance. Brake checks only work if you are following close behind. If the moron decides to stop, stop yourself (at least 100 metres / 300 feet) behind them [did that with some truck driver who was tailgating me because I was obeying the speed limit in a roadworks area, passed me then stopped to continue the rage out of the vehicle]. I just waited and finally he got bored and drove away.
@@GreatSportsDebates I think prison time for a traffic violation is a little extreme but the other dude literally tried to kill him. People like that shouldn’t be anywhere NEAR firearms or even have a drivers license
@totaldomination7269 a traffic violation I agree w you. Dangerously, wrecklessly, and continuously blocking traffic and purposeful braking on freeway IS life threatening!
I remember Brian Kohberger getting pulled over twice for tailgating. Is that not a crime in Houston? In my day, we didn't call this "brake-checking". We called it "tailgating".
This woman is part of the black panthers community which is a very racial group and she will always defend black People even if they are in the wrong .. you don’t shoot at someone because your angry ..
Please explain this to me people. That Tesla driver could have been gone with no F150 in site. If I was driving the Tesla, the other driver would have never had a chance to stop on an exit ramp in front of me. I am in no way saying the guy with the gun should not be punished for his actions. He definitely should be. I do agree that the other person should be facing some type of charges and shouldn't walk away scott free. Tesla gone, and the situation avoided.
While pulling a gun is not right, brake checking on the highway is very dangerous. It could cause serious accident and vehicle rollover, hence causing life or lives if there's passengers. Remember brake checking on purpose is different from slowing down with normal traffic flow. Both should be charged.
I agree! Just because one crime is worse than the other- doesn’t excuse the stupid guy break checking. What did he expect having balls to brake check someone like that better be ready to handle some retaliation. He put himself in danger. Not excusing the guy who shot bc murder is wrong, but he’s not the only aggressor.
@@uthmanibn-jafar1159 So just to let you know, people who brake check want to see you get into an accident. Multiple times now brake checking has resulted in deaths. So yes attempted murder and brake-checking on the highway are comparable.
The Tesla driver should be charged too for break checking. That's illegal, especially when your break checking on purpose. (Remeber: i dont know if im wrong or right, im just saying what im thinking)
Taking red lights is also illegal and very dangerous. You know what you get for that? A CITATION. At the most it's a misdemeanor. You don't "get charged" with anything. You're issued a citation lol.
So what would the Tesla driver be charged with, brake checking? What is that, a fine? It's also illegal to go over the speed limit. You going tell me you've never done that before? I can't believe some people are stupid enough to believe that a dude slamming on his brakes justifies this moron stopping on a highway and shooting at him possibly killing him.
I don’t agree with getting out and shooting at anybody period. What if he would have hit a kid or killed someone. I will say, I don’t feel bad for the white boy because he wasn’t innocent either. But the other guy should have used his head. It’s not a black and white thing. It’s a right and wrong thing.
I don't agree with the brake checker ,but what started the whole thing ? Did the black guy tailgate the brake checker? People get into their cars and no matter if it's a 90 lb female or a bodybuilder ,people in cars think they have super powers.
Considering he never mentioned himself brake checking dude and lying about not being able to get over when cleary video shows nobody was in the right lane or in front of him… the Tesla driver is definitely in the wrong too
LOL, this black lady talking with the 2 inch fingernails, cowboy hat tons of makeup .... LOL... oh ,let's not forget the black power closed hand button on her clothes .
As a black male this woman on a power trip she know good Damm well the guy in the pickup truck was wrong that hefer just trying to get points to make a name for herself
Feeling threatened while cornering a car to execute the Tesla does not make a logical legal argument. "I was being Reckless-drived against so I attempted to murder this brake-checker!"
This man not only exited his vehicle but drew his firearm and fired shots over a traffic disagreement. Prime citizen example right there, take his strap away and give him some time
Ignorance at its finest so there saying if u get brake checked ur allowed to smoke someone! I wonder if it was the other way around would they b so understanding or keep playing victim as they are 🤔
I remember Brian Kohberger getting pulled over twice for tailgating. Is that not a crime in Houston? In my day, we didn't call this "brake-checking". We called it "tailgating".
A ticket for wreckless endangerment because it quite possibly have caused a life or death crash, HOWEVER, it doesn’t warrant a gun and shots being fired imo
Since when was brake-checking not a crime?? Spoken like a true criminal. Hopefully you brake-check a policeman who’s had a rough day and test out your theory.😀
As a delivery driver and service driver we all see things like this Al the time. Those that think they need to brake check people need to be held accountable for provoking the issue. The firearm issue is still a problem but when you are brake checking people on the highway with nothing in front of you you become the problem.
I remember Brian Kohberger getting pulled over twice for tailgating. Is that not a crime in Houston? In my day, we didn't call this "brake-checking". We called it "tailgating".
That’s attempted murder not, aggravated assault. His representatives are acting like the driver in the tesla is the one that pulled the gun out. Taking zero responsibility.
I can already see it Lawyer: your honor, my defendant did in fact attempt to commit murder and fired recklessly into bystander traffic Judge: what did the Tesla do? Lawyer: he pressed on his brake for riding his tail? 🤷🏻♂️
Hitting brakes purposely when someone is on your tail: "Reckless driving; this involves a driver who willfully or wantonly drives with a disregard for the safety of other people or their property. "
Both sides are wrong. But the fools look more like a fools defending the reasoning behind using the gun. So all shooters with road rage have a right to shoot bc they feel entitled to? Because they can't control their emotions? Is this the message they're communicating to the community? that they will defend this behavior? Your pride being hurt is not a reason to respond with a gun. These people are not mentally and emotionally capable to use a gun.
The wife of the shooter is a JOKE! Stop wasting everyone's time-your husband is guilty of recklessly shooting at someone. If the Tesla did not speed up, the driver would likely have been injured or killed. If anyone is driving aggressively, do NOT engage.....DO NOT ENGAGE! That means no horn, flashing lights or anything else! I have learned the hard way to stop all that nonsense when my honking at a car that cut me off had him follow me (which I didn't realize). When I was behind another car at a stop sign, he ran up to my door and opened it to grab me. I reacted quick enough to turn into a parking lot drive way on the right and get away. Had my door been locked and he was trying to get in, I would have been within my rights to pull my gun on him. He should count his blessings that did not happen.
He never should have stopped his truck and had absolutely no right to shoot. That was road rage pure and simple. That said, Had that man in the Tesla not been driving antagonistically that never would have happened. Both are wrong imo.
I think the antagonizer is the tailgater, not the guy who can't change lanes to get out of the tailgater's way, since all he can see behind him is the big truck he's apparently towing so fast. I don't blame him for brake-checking in his attempts to get the guy to give him some space.
THAT SAME TESLA DID THE SAME THING TO ME ON 45 NORTH ABOUT 3 WEEKS AGO. THE DRIVER NEEDS TO BE CHARGED WITH RECKLESS DRIVING, THE VIDEO CLEARLY SHOWS HIM ATTEMPTING TO CAUSE A WRECK. ITS NOT FAIR THAT HE GETS AWAY WITH HIS CRIME.
@@vandarkholme7759 I followed him to his home, found out he has been in trouble with the law for his hot temper in the past, and he has gone to jail for several theft charges, i wanted to file charges on him but I was running late that day. he did the same thing to me on my truck because I was trying to pass him, he pulled in front of me and braked almost to a stop, then he did it two more times and took off, I was able to follow him to his house and found out his name is Christopher Harclerode Reid, I wanted to call the police or confront him but being as I stated I was running late for a business meeting, so I wrote down his information and looked him up later that day. the truck driver on this incident was lucky he didn't end up dead due to this man's actions.
The Guy in the truck was the one that went above & beyond the situation. The Telsa Guy should have been charged with reckless driving maybe, but Guy in Truck was in the total wrong.
people out there that want to compare and blame the Tesla guy is the reason why laws are so backwards. You want to charge the Tesla guy then charge him exactly for what he did…brake check. Car behind could’ve easily moved over or slowed down (they were in control) but to STOP your vehicle GET OUT your vehicle in no rush and CHOOSE to OPEN FIRE like that!? Let him get charged for THAT then! Like people say it’s never that serious until you make it serious.
Also, the shooter was tailgating the guy in the Tesla, which is what started this entire thing. Even after being brake-checked, he just got closer on the Tesla driver's tail rather than backing down. He was the aggressor all the way around.
If you cannot control your anger, gun is not your friend. GUN IS YOUR ENEMY. I don't like guns, but if you have a gun, it is to defend yourself. He could have gone a different way and reported the incident to the police instead of getting out of the car with a gun shooting at the other driver.
Mr. Young is extremely lucky the District Attorney didn’t charge him with attempted murder. His actions meet all the requirements. He would have a very difficult time proving he didn’t intend to kill the Tesla driver.
He would 100% walk free if they charged him with attempted murder. What he committed was attempted voluntary manslaughter. Even a bad lawyer would successfully argue that this was committed in the throws of passion and did not have premeditation which murder requires. He would have been lucky if he was charged with murder because he would have been found not guilty and the state is not allowed to charge a person for the same crime twice and so he would be a free man.
@@biggestkat1134 What in the name of God are you talking about? Manslaughter?? Manslaughter requires that the individual unintentionally killed the victim. In this case, Mr. Young pulled in front of the Tesla, stopped, exited the vehicle and opened fire in a calm deliberate manner. That fits the definition of murder. If, in fact, the Tesla driver had been killed in this incident, Mr. Young would 100% be charged with 3rd degree murder. Also, being brake checked would never meet the standard for a crime committed in a fit of passion. The mens rea element would be laughed out of court.
@jryankinnicutt So you are agreeing with me then. Voluntary manslaughter and 3rd degree murder are exactly the same thing. 3rd degree murder is a informal laymans term and voluntary manslaughter is the correct legal term. 3rd degree murder is NOT legally recognized as murder but manslaughter. Manslaughter does not require unintentional killing. Voluntary manslaughter is defined as INTENTIONAL killing committed in a “heat of passion”
@@biggestkat1134 Yes, I specifically used 3rd degree murder because it’s a broad term that could be invoked under these circumstances. Obviously, this varies from state to state. I don’t see how they could use manslaughter due to the fact that there is no element of passion or negligence. If anything, I would be willing to concede that they could have charged him with 2nd degree murder if the Tesla driver had died. Definitely malice aforethoughtand and willful disregard.
Arresting someone for brake checking someone. I don’t think so. At most a traffic violation (reckless driving at most). The only idiot that should have been arrested is already facing criminal charges, and he deserves it.
That Tesla is loaded with cameras, pull the video and watch the whole thing, then file all appropriate charges. By the way, that Tesla is one of the fastest things on the road, so that driver saying he couldn’t get away from the truck is flat out BS
You need to be tailgated more often so you can see how difficult it is to figure out when it's safe to switch lanes when you can't see anything behind you, because you are apparently towing somebody's big truck at 70 MPH.
@John Scott - Don’t drive 50 mph in the extreme left lane and whine that other drivers are “tailgating” you. Politely move to the right lane and allow others to pass. Don’t start slamming on your brakes every 5 yards. So stupid.
@John Scott yea left lane is literally for fast and passing traffic. The accepted and traditional way of signaling someone that they are going too slow in the left lane is to hover to the left of the lane lines and give one flash of your lights. After that the slower moving traffic pulls to the right to allow faster traffic to move along. I mean the dude was in a tesla, literally 0-60 mph in fraction of the time it takes normal vehicles. Break checking is extremely reckless and aggressive.
