Roadrunner RX7 Short-Term Problems Review 

Nami paired with PMTs are pretty much considered the golden standard. The only downside is maybe the top speed (but if you don't care 60+ mph, that doesn't matter as well). I love my klima :)

@@NabiCook absolutely. Only just over 200 miles so far and I haven't even tried turbo mode. I run out of room to try plus 57mph is my highest so far and plenty for me. The acceleration is awesome 😎

I never tried the inmotion rs, tho it was almost my final pick before I saw the RX7. I was mostly sold by its design and cheaper earlybird price (I paid $3499) For the maximum range, battery replaceable models like the RX7 and wolfking GTR would be the best, but if you don't plan on extra battery, scooters that allow single motor mode would also give you a plenty of range. Maybe burn e2 max or inmotion rs would be a solid pick, depending on which you prefer more. RX7 is still in the early stage and I see so many area of improvements which most likely will be replaced with RX7+ (just like the RS5/RS5+)

I couldn't agree more. If you're a first batch RX7 owner, Roadrunner basically used you as a guinea pig by default. Now, I don't believe this was intentional but I do believe that it was rushed into production and spit out to pre-order customers as quickly as possible. Instead, they should have made a dozen of them, given them out to critical thinkers and hard users and then taken the issues back to the engineers to be corrected for the production batch. I doubt anything like that actually happened and if it did, there either weren't enough prototypes and or not the right people testing them.

yeah I think so. I see no real advantage of lumilor over the rgb at this point when they are weaker and dim than rgb lights. maybe it makes it easier to apply on thin, flat surfaces just like the front/rear forks which almost none of the scooters out there have (they only have lights on deck and stem). still tho, lumilor is too expensive and nearly impossible to repair on my own, I could get a kit from them and repaint the whole thing, but again protection is another problem.

@@NabiCook Lumilor sounds cool on paper, but on a scooter application it might not be a solid choice for the reasons you provided.

I have my handlebar adjusted from the top as well. I live in an apartment complex and I use the elevator and narrow doors to move this thing around, which requires extreme turning angles that causes the stem to rotate just like the video. so every time I get outside I'd have to allign the stem before a ride which could be annoying

@@NabiCookyea mine does not have that issue or almost any of them mentioned, I did have some issues putting in the battery when I first got it but now it’s seems to be fine, But besides my controller blowing which I have a new one coming tomorrow I haven’t had any issue even riding on gravel trails my Lumilior has not been damaged at all. But for the best from the controllers I bought some like 1.5in by 6in heat sinks on Amazon that’s I’m gonna put on the underside of the controllers and some new thermal paste under the controllers inside the deck, I also bought some 40mmx80mm heat sink with fans to put onto top of the controllers inside the scooter. Yea not a very good deisgn for the controllers but otherwise my scooter has been perfect

wow that sucks man. they need to find some better ways to secure the stem when folded. locking from the front side only works for the light scooters, heavier scooters do need some support from the rear, but a thin magnet exposed like that do look fragile to me

@NabiCook idk what in the heck caused the latch to stick, but it was completely locked up. Could not budge it. It's almost like the magnet and the latch super bonded. Hammered on the latch and nothing. Then I had to get to prying, and the magnet snapped instantly. Once the pieces of the magnet were cleared, the latch finally let go and I could unfold it.

The RS5 doesn't stray far, if at all, from know working designs on the market. The RX7 was their first attempt at creating something from scratch. Sad part is, if they just beefed up the RS5 to handle the upgraded electronics of the RX7 instead of redesigning all the things that were not broken in the first place, they would have come out with a better scooter. This side rotation movement Nabi calls out is never going to get fixed with this stem lock design. It does not happen on the RS5, as a user of both has already called out. With mileage, I fear this side rotation movement will get progressively worse. It might be possible to reduce it if we were given a proper wrench tool to lock down the stem mechanism tight, but the company did not respond to my feedback about providing a better tool than the strap wrench. And as you can see, this strap wrench is eventually going to snap, leaving us with nothing but our hands to tighten this steel collar up with.

All this so called negative feedback I’ve seen so far on the rx7 is unbelievable for one everyone talkin down on it seems like they r hating no real cons on it sounds like made up bs they made up along the way or they even make themselves sound like noobs like they have no idea wat they r talking about

1. the horn was not a part of problem review. non of the reviews out there included the horn sound, which I specifically stated "before we begin." 2. stem is a known issue among the owners and is discussed on reddit. the center shaft has a play and the locking mechanism cannot prevent it from slightly moving around, where as nami klima that I have - it doesn't have such issue. 3. lumilor is a known issue among the users and is discussed / posted on reddit including myself and other customer's case. 4. the scooter advertises the top cooling vents which has no realistic impact on cooling because the controllers are placed at the bottom, but the company claims it offers cooling advantage - and was one of the reasons to the delay of the scooter. yes none of the other scooters have this and it was not worth the hype - is my point. 5. battery size issue is also known / discussed problem on reddit including myself and other customers where the battery is slightly larger and have difficulty to put it. 6. I specifically stated that although all the connections have water seal, the controllers will heat up the water, generate moisture, and potentially cause corrosion. 7. yes I had Emove cruiser and it was worse, but this is a $4K scooter and direct comparisons are being made against Nami Klima. thanks for your interest, but seems like you didn't do enough research and misunderstood many parts of the video.

I read your reddit post , people commenting aren't having those issues with the exception of the luminoir but there is a fix coming. No one else having steering damper issues or stem issues. They comment thanks for letting us know or sounds cheap because there going off your review...same as in these RU-vid comments.

So only u had tht cow problem with the luminoir ?

@@MauricioRodriguez-u9o there is another user on reddit who posted black cow and many other users claiming such issue throughout comments, dm, related posts, even in my channel. another user with lumilor issue: www.reddit.com/r/ElectricScooters/s/ZVsneSTaWu another user with stem shaft issue: www.reddit.com/r/ElectricScooters/s/Cx0S4vekXg people clearly doesnt know how to research

Yeh, I'm with Nabi on this one with the stem play. It's a concern to know it's there, but when riding it I have never felt an issue and I'm passing 300 miles now. If there is a way to reduce that play, RR needs to step up and respond with a video or something. If not, they might want to look into a rubber gromet/o-ring or something we can place at the base of the steel collar to hinder that extra movement. The damper does do a great job if it's secure. The blue loctite should solve this issue, but RR should probably call this out in the install video or even include some. If I had to guess, there is going to be a revamped RX7 + model within a year or two and it will probably be great... but the early adopters here are just alpha testing at this point. Hopefully they take our feedback and make changes.

What looks wrong with damper in your view?

@@jamesbarry2388 The damper is fine, as long as you use loctite on the bolts that mount into the scooter. This probably should have come with lock washers or loctite should have been included.

that sounds like a good idea. I'll try to apply some coating and see if it prevents any further damages. It's shameful that they didn't notice this problem during the prototyping stage.

mine is not too bad, but yeah tube can be in a weird shape inside and distort the balance. probably the best thing is what you did, letting all air out, and filling it up again after adjusting it. the best way to go is tubeless, let me see if there are some feasible ways to turn this thing tubeless.

@@NabiCook I'm really hoping they can just sell us a new rim. It's a two piece design, the motor and rim are separate. If they make a tubeless version of the rim we have now we can just intall that and a tubeless valve stem into that new rim. Even if the new design is not a split rim - they could make a tubeless rim for us. It seems strange to leave your 50 first early adopters running on tubes. It's also clearly a mistake cause the tires we have are tubeless tires, we just need a compatible rim, valve stem, and some sealant. Just went on a longer test ride though and it's definitely better, but it seemed to degrade over time - I didn't notice it from day 1, which is why I think I might be experiencing the tube shifting around as I ride knocking the balance off over time. Couple pot holes and it might come back I fear. Over 350 miles so far and knock on wood, still nothing major. And I'm running it in this heat wave (turned off electronic braking though to keep the controlers cool). My headlight did stop working a couple days ago but they replaced it quickly and the new one works.

Im used to Nami's thumb throttle where there is a slight deadzone before it kicks in. RX7 has less deadzone and it feels instantaneous. I prefer slight deadzones tho, because I could accidentally touch the throttle and the scooter can just fly away.

not yet, and the root cause is the loose center shaft inside the stem. When I fold the stem, the upper part of the stem moves almost freely without the wheel moving. where as other scooters, when you fold, pretty much you can only have vertical movements, just up and down. I tried to tighten every screws that I could find, but still there's too much horizontal and rotational play to it. when you put them back together, the stem nut is tightened sideways and there is nothing to hold inside from the side movements like turning the stem.

it seems like you do need some extra layer of protection. I'm just using it as is and planning on completely getting rid of it and repainting once the black dots get out of control. Im getting more of them every day

​@@NabiCookMy Lumilor is now almost completely covered in black dots now.

Dam I have almost 200 miles with 0 issues for the lumilior

An answer would be nice 💀

​@@khanridesoh no hahaha I thought I responded and closed the window but nothing happened.😅 I got it from amazon, there are buch of same designs available on aliexpress at much cheaper price. but here are my gears: rgb - a.aliexpress.com/_EjiEplh lumos - ridelumos.com/products/lumos-firefly headlight- a.co/d/5lhVtSu mirror- a.aliexpress.com/_EHgwN0B

@@NabiCook thank you bro 💯

the range heavily depends on every single factor like weight, wind, temperature, speed, and elevation. I often keep it to full charge for the top speed, but my daily 10mi commute ride involving 50+mph speeds uses about 20% charge. I'd expect ~50mi range for my use case. going slower and using single motor could boost the range way beyond 70mi, riding it like a lime scooter, maybe 100+mi, full throttle all the time, probably less than 20mi based on math. but again, ranges on scooters are subjective and only take it as a general idea. basically divide (72v*40ah) 2.88kwh power by whatever the wattage it consumes, you can easily tell how long it will last and how far it can go; applies to all scooters and EVs out there.

@@NabiCook high recommend that dont use single mode,it will burn your rear controller

does your stem and body chip like that in just a week of unboxing riding only on roads and not a single offroad? any automotive grade paint and coatings are far more resistant to impacts, so as the other parts of this scooter and my nami klima. There is clearly no protection.

@@NabiCook fair assessment, do you think if rr offered a touch up bottle of luminoir paint that would solve chip issue?

@@AllJuiceNoBrakes since Lumilor is a multi-layered paint and has a thin plastic/ vinyl coating on it, the only way I could think of is completely replacing the panel. it does appear to be somewhat modular, they might have thought of repairing needs in the future, but it looks impossible to only paint the damaged parts alone. It's basically a circuit board sprayed on the surface. Considering the price of Lumilor paints, I'd expect the replacements to be expensive.