I was going to buy this, I agree the lights look really cool by far the best looking out of all the ones I seen and and will actually keep you safer, but after seeing that glue job and the speed setting not working, with a pretty bad return policy, I think I will pass. NabiCook do you know if anything new is coming out in 2024-2025? Or any other recommendations from what you have seen that is out now or coming out soon. I just bought a cheap $850 cdn "red sky volt" and now have the need for more speed. The main thing I am looking for is good tubeless tires as I hate having downtime because of the tubed tires also I am a bit heavier so something that can support a full grown man.
You gotta be new to scooter world, I'm thinking of getting Rx7 and did some research, first horn is suppose to be loud so traffic can hear you, pedestrians you use a bell, stem issue first I heard ,you gotta be 1 in a million to have that issue cause I couldn't find anyone with that issue, you have to tighten rear bolt to damper which will solve your damper issue, use that lock tight on the bolt you claim comes loose, luminoir issue your only person I seen have that, the controllers are suppose to be attached to bottom off deck because heat rises and dont know of any other scooters that have heat vents in the deck lid so you really don't know what your talking about, never heard of the battery issue, if you struggling to get it in thats on you. Every component and wire has been dip in waterproof solution that's rated higher than the universal high ipx66. Found that out with a lil research, would've been a good review if it was accurate. You should do a review on voromotors to get a real horror story review. They push out quantity before quality
All this so called negative feedback I’ve seen so far on the rx7 is unbelievable for one everyone talkin down on it seems like they r hating no real cons on it sounds like made up bs they made up along the way or they even make themselves sound like noobs like they have no idea wat they r talking about
The air vents r meant to be cut off not open access to the battery it’s self the idea is to keep it cool not expose it to water/bacteria/dirt the seal is obviously there to keep water out as well that’s the idea of a water resistant scooter but I understand not every one understands how things work if ofc u didn’t engineer it ur self now , a good honest review is wat we should expect out of u but ur doin to much now
addressed in my second video, 1. the rubber seal is inefficient in heat transfer but there is also a gap between the deck and cover, also between the battery. I have a pc thats more expensive than this scooter and experiences building custom loop water cooling builds, knowing what an effecient cooling design should look like. it plays minimum to zero role. I commented as better than nothing, but not as effective as it sounds like. 2. addressed in the video, the seal does not provide front coverage and the controller compartment is not water tight. As my area start to get some rain, I get water droplets getting closer to the weak spots I mentioned. If I hit a puddle by an accident its a game over. you don't advertise such design as ip66, unless you know what an IP rating is. 3. you dont need a degree in mechanical engineering just to understand that rubber and air gaps insulate heat. your tumbler has literally the same design, metal-gap-metal. this scooter has an air gap between the cover and the battery, and the controller heat are spread through the bottom (where there is no heatsink), not the top. there's already instances of riders frying up their controllers. 4. this is a prime example of an honest review, revealing every single aspect of the product so that the viewers can decide. a sponsored/dishonest review will simply call it an amazing scooter, drop an affiliate link, and recommend to buy one - which I never did.
Yikes! Always Let new scooters take the course of coming out to other people, And working out the bugs because it happens sometimes. But they are a great company so i'm sure they'll take care of any issues
You gotta be new to scooter world, I'm thinking of getting Rx7 and did some research, first horn is suppose to be loud so traffic can hear you, pedestrians you use a bell, stem issue first I heard ,you gotta be 1 in a million to have that issue cause I couldn't find anyone with that issue, you have to tighten rear bolt to damper which will solve your damper issue, use that lock tight on the bolt you claim comes loose, luminoir issue your only person I seen have that, the controllers are suppose to be attached to bottom off deck because heat rises and dont know of any other scooters that have heat vents in the deck lid so you really don't know what your talking about, never heard of the battery issue, if you struggling to get it in thats on you. Every component and wire has been dip in waterproof solution that's rated higher than the universal high ipx66. Found that out with a lil research, would've been a good review if it was accurate. You should do a review on voromotors to get a real horror story review. They push out quantity before quality
does your stem and body chip like that in just a week of unboxing riding only on roads and not a single offroad? any automotive grade paint and coatings are far more resistant to impacts, so as the other parts of this scooter and my nami klima. There is clearly no protection.
@@AllJuiceNoBrakes since Lumilor is a multi-layered paint and has a thin plastic/ vinyl coating on it, the only way I could think of is completely replacing the panel. it does appear to be somewhat modular, they might have thought of repairing needs in the future, but it looks impossible to only paint the damaged parts alone. It's basically a circuit board sprayed on the surface. Considering the price of Lumilor paints, I'd expect the replacements to be expensive.
Nabi, are you getting any vibrations at high speed? Mine have been getting worse and it was front wheel. Threw it up on a stand and the front was super wobbly under power. Since we have tubes, I let all the air out of the front tube and then pushed the tire as best I could with my hand to the valve side, trying to keep it straight while the electronic pump filled it back up. I guess this is the tubed equivalent of 'reseating the bead'. If we had tubeless I don't think this would be as much of an issue, but I think with tubes depending on how the fill goes it can hold the tire out of balance, or over time with hitting bumps and such I thinkt he tire can slide a bit in relation to the tube causing a wobble and more vibration. It's better when riding now, less vibration, but there is still noticeable wobble on the stand. I ordered some 1/4 ounce tire balancing weights and I am going to balance the tires and see how much more vibrations I can get out of it.
mine is not too bad, but yeah tube can be in a weird shape inside and distort the balance. probably the best thing is what you did, letting all air out, and filling it up again after adjusting it. the best way to go is tubeless, let me see if there are some feasible ways to turn this thing tubeless.
@@NabiCook I'm really hoping they can just sell us a new rim. It's a two piece design, the motor and rim are separate. If they make a tubeless version of the rim we have now we can just intall that and a tubeless valve stem into that new rim. Even if the new design is not a split rim - they could make a tubeless rim for us. It seems strange to leave your 50 first early adopters running on tubes. It's also clearly a mistake cause the tires we have are tubeless tires, we just need a compatible rim, valve stem, and some sealant. Just went on a longer test ride though and it's definitely better, but it seemed to degrade over time - I didn't notice it from day 1, which is why I think I might be experiencing the tube shifting around as I ride knocking the balance off over time. Couple pot holes and it might come back I fear. Over 350 miles so far and knock on wood, still nothing major. And I'm running it in this heat wave (turned off electronic braking though to keep the controlers cool). My headlight did stop working a couple days ago but they replaced it quickly and the new one works.
Yikes!! This is so disheartening to hear/learn. I was holding out a lot of hope for this scooter, and now, in just a short period of time since its release to actual users/owners, I'm losing all of my interest in ever owing one. Thank you so for the review!
it seems like you do need some extra layer of protection. I'm just using it as is and planning on completely getting rid of it and repainting once the black dots get out of control. Im getting more of them every day
Not hyped on the way the scooters looks like just something about the appearance that i dont like. Me i personally wouod prefer the mars XTR or maybe maybe the BRONCO XTREME 11 (72V 40AH) x kelly controls. But sucks bronco scooters come from china so takes a month or even more for it to arrive at your door.
I've never seen anything like that in a stem before ever. The steering damper looks insanely terrible. Well at least going straight is not important 😂 I wish you luck with the scooter but very little chance this is gonna be an easy first release.
Yeh, I'm with Nabi on this one with the stem play. It's a concern to know it's there, but when riding it I have never felt an issue and I'm passing 300 miles now. If there is a way to reduce that play, RR needs to step up and respond with a video or something. If not, they might want to look into a rubber gromet/o-ring or something we can place at the base of the steel collar to hinder that extra movement. The damper does do a great job if it's secure. The blue loctite should solve this issue, but RR should probably call this out in the install video or even include some. If I had to guess, there is going to be a revamped RX7 + model within a year or two and it will probably be great... but the early adopters here are just alpha testing at this point. Hopefully they take our feedback and make changes.
@@jamesbarry2388 The damper is fine, as long as you use loctite on the bolts that mount into the scooter. This probably should have come with lock washers or loctite should have been included.
the range heavily depends on every single factor like weight, wind, temperature, speed, and elevation. I often keep it to full charge for the top speed, but my daily 10mi commute ride involving 50+mph speeds uses about 20% charge. I'd expect ~50mi range for my use case. going slower and using single motor could boost the range way beyond 70mi, riding it like a lime scooter, maybe 100+mi, full throttle all the time, probably less than 20mi based on math. but again, ranges on scooters are subjective and only take it as a general idea. basically divide (72v*40ah) 2.88kwh power by whatever the wattage it consumes, you can easily tell how long it will last and how far it can go; applies to all scooters and EVs out there.
It's really hard to believe how shoddy some of the fit and finish is. Besides all the obvious nicks and dents, 3:54 this rail was nicked before powder coating was even applied. Very little thought or care taken in the manufacturing process apparently. I'm a RX5 Max owner and really like that model.... wanted to like this model and almost pre-ordered it. I'm so thankful that I didn't. I would have been so disappointed. As an example of what I would expect, my first performance scooter was the Mantis King GT. It was immaculately fit and finished. The GoTrax GX3 that I just received, also very nicely finished! Both of these scooters were under $2000. My RX5 Max has some anodizing imperfections with dark specks in the blue but overall, quite nicely executed and only a small issue with some initial wear of the back up locking pin in the stem fold. So sad to see this in a scooter at the RX7's price point.
The RS5 doesn't stray far, if at all, from know working designs on the market. The RX7 was their first attempt at creating something from scratch. Sad part is, if they just beefed up the RS5 to handle the upgraded electronics of the RX7 instead of redesigning all the things that were not broken in the first place, they would have come out with a better scooter. This side rotation movement Nabi calls out is never going to get fixed with this stem lock design. It does not happen on the RS5, as a user of both has already called out. With mileage, I fear this side rotation movement will get progressively worse. It might be possible to reduce it if we were given a proper wrench tool to lock down the stem mechanism tight, but the company did not respond to my feedback about providing a better tool than the strap wrench. And as you can see, this strap wrench is eventually going to snap, leaving us with nothing but our hands to tighten this steel collar up with.
Just a tought, applying a clear coat over the lumilor paint would maybe help with durability? Still with those problems it's alot of scooter for the money. One question does the throttle lever has dead zone?
Im used to Nami's thumb throttle where there is a slight deadzone before it kicks in. RX7 has less deadzone and it feels instantaneous. I prefer slight deadzones tho, because I could accidentally touch the throttle and the scooter can just fly away.
The magnet they glued under the deck hook latch just broke into pieces last night. I couldn't get the stem latch out of the hook after traveling with the scooter, and I had to pry it out with a flat head. The magnet broke into pieces, lol. Built roadrunner tough! A design they thought was worth calling out as a selling point that has basically disintegrated in less than 2 weeks of ownership...
wow that sucks man. they need to find some better ways to secure the stem when folded. locking from the front side only works for the light scooters, heavier scooters do need some support from the rear, but a thin magnet exposed like that do look fragile to me
@NabiCook idk what in the heck caused the latch to stick, but it was completely locked up. Could not budge it. It's almost like the magnet and the latch super bonded. Hammered on the latch and nothing. Then I had to get to prying, and the magnet snapped instantly. Once the pieces of the magnet were cleared, the latch finally let go and I could unfold it.
I feel it was worth mentioning. at least they thought of something like that, other companies wouldnt even bother. and thanks for letting everyone know about the issues they have to improved on.
My black does are coming from simply carrying my scooter up the stairs. This paint is extremely fragile to EVERYTHING. I am getting more and more of them. Got 100 miles in so far.
Videos speak a thousand words. Thanks for the video. Have you tried contacting Roadrunner Scooters regarding the stem misalignment and overturning? If so, what was their response?
not yet, and the root cause is the loose center shaft inside the stem. When I fold the stem, the upper part of the stem moves almost freely without the wheel moving. where as other scooters, when you fold, pretty much you can only have vertical movements, just up and down. I tried to tighten every screws that I could find, but still there's too much horizontal and rotational play to it. when you put them back together, the stem nut is tightened sideways and there is nothing to hold inside from the side movements like turning the stem.
Hey Nabi, I just thought of something. You know those clear adhesive panels people put on their furniture to protect it from their cat scratching with claws? Its called panther guard. Buy some of that and stick it over the lumilor on your scooter! Its completely clear plastic thats thick enough to prevent damage from those rock impacts! They should have probably used a thicker clear coat at the factory though really.
that sounds like a good idea. I'll try to apply some coating and see if it prevents any further damages. It's shameful that they didn't notice this problem during the prototyping stage.
Man thats a real bummer about the lumilor getting damaged so easily! They had to have noticed that in the prototyping phase. My guess is they already signed the contract with Lumilor before they discovered the damage happens so easily and had to follow through with it. Thats probably why on the future batches they are offering RGB panels as an option.
yeah I think so. I see no real advantage of lumilor over the rgb at this point when they are weaker and dim than rgb lights. maybe it makes it easier to apply on thin, flat surfaces just like the front/rear forks which almost none of the scooters out there have (they only have lights on deck and stem). still tho, lumilor is too expensive and nearly impossible to repair on my own, I could get a kit from them and repaint the whole thing, but again protection is another problem.
It's very easy to straighten out the handlebar. Loosen the nuts above and just turn it and tighten it. I did that from the very beginning and I haven't had any issues of driving straight with the stem straight since.
I have my handlebar adjusted from the top as well. I live in an apartment complex and I use the elevator and narrow doors to move this thing around, which requires extreme turning angles that causes the stem to rotate just like the video. so every time I get outside I'd have to allign the stem before a ride which could be annoying
@@NabiCookyea mine does not have that issue or almost any of them mentioned, I did have some issues putting in the battery when I first got it but now it’s seems to be fine, But besides my controller blowing which I have a new one coming tomorrow I haven’t had any issue even riding on gravel trails my Lumilior has not been damaged at all. But for the best from the controllers I bought some like 1.5in by 6in heat sinks on Amazon that’s I’m gonna put on the underside of the controllers and some new thermal paste under the controllers inside the deck, I also bought some 40mmx80mm heat sink with fans to put onto top of the controllers inside the scooter. Yea not a very good deisgn for the controllers but otherwise my scooter has been perfect
@@khanridesoh no hahaha I thought I responded and closed the window but nothing happened.😅 I got it from amazon, there are buch of same designs available on aliexpress at much cheaper price. but here are my gears: rgb - a.aliexpress.com/_EjiEplh lumos - ridelumos.com/products/lumos-firefly headlight- a.co/d/5lhVtSu mirror- a.aliexpress.com/_EHgwN0B
I've waited long enough. I'm 40 and have been wanting a bad ass electric scooter for many moons! However, I kept on waiting and waiting because I didn't want some cheap skate bullshit scooter that can only go 5 miles (or less) and die on me! I didn't realize the scooter game has come along this far since the last time I was looking into electric scooters about 10 years ago! Before doing some research if you were to ask me what's the fastest electric scooter on the market I would've assumed 30-35 mph at most! This thing is a damn beast! I've always been against motorcycles because I've had too many friends/family die on them! Plus I don't like the fact that no matter how safe you ride on a bike you always have people around you that aren't paying attention. I'd prefer smashing this on the bike trails we have out here rather than actual roads though! I'd rather eliminate other terrible drivers all together! We have some awesome paved trails out here where I live that go from my apartment complex, all the way into downtown where the trails run along a river and to a lake! It'll be a blast for sure!
Thanks for making this video my bro. Your experience is very helpful. I have an Inmotion RS Midnight and it has been a pretty good scooter with incredible range and low to medium speeds. I was actually looking into getting one if these RX7s so that i can have another scooter that can perform like the RS as a back up scooter but im thinking maybe i should wait for the next revision with any necessary changes to fix the current model issues. This is still a beautiful scooter, and yeah the Lighting is what caught my attention too. 😅
As someone with ocd and is willing to spend a premium for something really high end to avoid defects and other problems on a cheaper alternative, it’s really disappointing and unacceptable to see so much issues especially the quality controls. Have you tried the inmotion RS, might be leaning towards that over the rx7 after seeing your initial review. I’m prioritize maximum range over all else.
I never tried the inmotion rs, tho it was almost my final pick before I saw the RX7. I was mostly sold by its design and cheaper earlybird price (I paid $3499) For the maximum range, battery replaceable models like the RX7 and wolfking GTR would be the best, but if you don't plan on extra battery, scooters that allow single motor mode would also give you a plenty of range. Maybe burn e2 max or inmotion rs would be a solid pick, depending on which you prefer more. RX7 is still in the early stage and I see so many area of improvements which most likely will be replaced with RX7+ (just like the RS5/RS5+)
I couldn't agree more. If you're a first batch RX7 owner, Roadrunner basically used you as a guinea pig by default. Now, I don't believe this was intentional but I do believe that it was rushed into production and spit out to pre-order customers as quickly as possible. Instead, they should have made a dozen of them, given them out to critical thinkers and hard users and then taken the issues back to the engineers to be corrected for the production batch. I doubt anything like that actually happened and if it did, there either weren't enough prototypes and or not the right people testing them.
Very good points and great video pointing out small yet serious enough flaws. Hopefully the company makes fixes and adjustments for future generations of this scooters. I have my Nami with PMTs I'll hold of on buying this one. Thanks!
Nami paired with PMTs are pretty much considered the golden standard. The only downside is maybe the top speed (but if you don't care 60+ mph, that doesn't matter as well). I love my klima :)
@@NabiCook absolutely. Only just over 200 miles so far and I haven't even tried turbo mode. I run out of room to try plus 57mph is my highest so far and plenty for me. The acceleration is awesome 😎
Your in the States, why is your cell speed on kph if your speedometer is in accurate? Also the strap wrench is for the large stem nut to help tighten all the way down.
haha good question. Before I decided to make a review, I was filming to share it with my friends living outside the US, and they use kph. But then towards the end I decided to make a review and changed the gps to mph, which I ended up with most of the footage being in kph. Ah yes I was told by the other guy for the use, unfortunately with the stem nut tightened using the strap wrench, the stem still has a slight play to it which I addressed it in my new video.
Nami is generally considered and recommended as a good brand in scooters. I never tried burn e2 max, so I can't say it for sure. I do have Klima, which like I said, the ride quality on Klima is better, and the performance on the RX7 is better.
it has a built in turn signals but really is just one of the tail lights blinking. All yellow/red flashing lights I have on my scooter are aftermarket lights
Paul from Electric Sccoter Guide had a speedo that was under estimating the true speed. He recommended we turn down P0 to 9 inch wheel diameter. Going to give that a try today.
