Rob Allen | R&D | Triple Band Muzzle | 2024 

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Hi, I have had many discussions about a reverse trigger. In my opinion, there is so little advantage that I feel it is just a marketing thing. For one, if you gun is set up correctly, you will get the spear up to maximum speed. Bringing the rubber further back along the spear will not make the spear go any faster. We have discussed spear speed in many videos. The negative with a reverse mechanism is that you are making it even harder to load. The further back you need to pull the rubber the more difficult it is. Guys then make their rubbers longer to help load, pointless. Regarding all stainless steel triggers, there is a video we put up on how bad stainless is when rubbing against stainless. It eventually starts to fret (gall) and make the trigger pull harder. Watch the video. Guys who use full stainless do not realize their trigger pull is getting stiffer as it takes a long time. We have run our trigger up to 20,000 cycles at max load with little or no change in trigger pull feel.

Not yet, need to work out the 3 x 14 first.

We are testing both a double roller and an inverted.

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There are 2 reasons we developed the muzzle, 1 is for those who have trouble loading a big gun. They can use thinner rubber. The 2nd is to drive an 8mm spear adequately on a Timberline gun. So it could be used on a 1000 Tuna just to make loading easier.

@@RobAllenSpearfishing oh I see thanks

@@RobAllenSpearfishing so are the 3 thinner rubbers comparable to two larger, more power or equal ?

@@246spearfishing7 It depends how you set it up. As long as you are getting the spear up to max speed both will be good. The main advantage is for those who battle to load single or double rubber guns, can now load easier.

You will be supersized just how many requests we have had for this 3 rubber muzzle with 12mm rubbers. There are many youngsters, some ladies and persons with shoulder issues who can't even load a 14mm rubber but can load a 12mm. The 12mm works fine on our standard guns up to a 7,5mm spear. The 8mm in our opinion is just too heavy and creates way too much recoil. The weight of an 8mm works best on a Timberline gun. Also, our ability to add buoyancy with the Timberline barrel helps massively to compensate for the 8mm spears mass. We have done test on all set ups and have no problem using 3 x 14mm on the Timberline with an 8mm spear.

@@RobAllenSpearfishing That's a fair assesment 🫡👍👍, people really do wants different things from this muzzle. Some saw it as a way to help them ease their loading efforts. But to some, like me, adding this bad boy to a timberline gun might persuade me to buy one of the timberline series. I'm sorry Rob, but the timberline series are just too pricy for me 😂😅✌️✌️. I understand the added buoyancy and strength to that barrel, but to add a roller muzzle to that barrel seems redundant, why add something that already have little to no recoil to a timber-fortified carbon barrel? And why only stop at two rubber muzzle, even when we know that narrel can handle more power and recoil. This three banded muzzle is just what the timberline series needed. The possibilities of adjusting your setup to your environment without changing your muzzle is really impressive. No disrespect tho, just sharing my frustation😁

@@Gronky-sv5yp All good. We try to make whatever options customers want. As long as the setup is functional we will make it.

No, just standard 12mm. This 12mm option is for those who have problem loading for example, persons with shoulder injuries, youngsters or ladies.

No, we do not see a reason. If your single roller is set up correctly you will get the spear to max speed. No point fitting another rubber as all you will do is add recoil unnecessary. If you want to drive a thicker spear, better to use a double roller.

Do you plan on developing a double roller muzzle?

Love all your testing and development keep them coming Rob

@@greatnorthern3481 Many thanks.

@@DETECTIVELARRY We have been working on one for a long time, just not ready yet to show.