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I’m not sold on rollers looking at the graph of speed. The speed of the classic setup may even be marginally improved with a reverse trigger. But I do agree the lack of recoil is a big advantage, especially when taking unconventional shots where your arm isn’t fully extended. I think you handled the topic really well. Thanks for all your vids. I actually recently swapped to putting all my fillets in Syran wrap and it’s been working great so far :)
I watched the 3 series of vids. My feeling based on your findings is the roller is actually questionably worth the extra cost and effort. its even less powerful at short ranges and perhaps marginally more powerful at long ranges. Maybe your actual use of the guns indicates otherwise. Reducing recoil seems to me the main advantage of the rollers. But this would be not much of a gain at all if you were accustomed to firing a perhaps slightly heavier and or well balanced traditional gun. In other words, I think similar accuracy can be had with either roller or traditional; but I’m not completely discounting low recoil, of course it’s an advantage. When we are forced to take shots not extending our arm for example,I can see a roller providing quite a degree of higher accuracy. So all in all I suppose I’m a bit crossed. Such is life maybe. Great analysis though, very good series.
Assuming you deployed the belt reel and you have to go back down to get the fish out of hole, what do you do with the belt reel. Tie it off to a float or take back down with you and could that be a tangle danger.
Since then 1950's my Dad first, started using stainless cable on a Penn 65 saltwater reel attached to the speargun to play larger fish. Real drag and attached a 2 drag at the muzzle. Cave dvellers needed stoping before reaching the hole and pelagics let run. No cutoffs. Cable sinks inmediatelly and doesn't float arround for you to get tangled. Dyneema on a belt reel, not a good idea. A float line beter
I have a fairly new RA gun that I'm putting a sticker on. Would you recomend I remove the glue before applying the sticker, or just go straight on after peeling off?
Its certainly a neat way to do it, but fighting with the clip when the gun is pulling the other way is painful! Handle with a solid anchor point on it is definitely easier to use.
All personal preferences. Do whatever works for you. I just know of a guy who had his belt reel hook, hook up in the reef and nearly drown him. If the loop was on the gun and the clip on the reel then the loop on the gun will be pulling the other way.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing yes, it is easier to hang on to the gun by the barrel or handle then by holding on to a shark clip though. A lot of people i dive with use their reels that way is all.
@@spearo16 Many now use a 1m bungee between the gun and the belt reel, all clipped in before shooting. If you need to let go, it is already connected. The bungee is somewhat stiffer than line so not so easy to entangle.
Iv got butterflies in my tummy already 😂 im going to join the comp this year, i think im finally ready for one, been training very hard for a year, had a super awsome dive buddy that turned me from a total noobie into a mamba😂😂 see you guys soon whooohoooo
Avoid poking the gills so as to not trigger it's killer survival instincts to fight back because it thinks it's ability to breath is threatened. Learned from one experience
I had invections a few time in my outer ear canal, which was normly resolved by antibiotics. However 2 yrs ago while equilizing on a dive, some water entered with air in my middle ear. Didn’t think much about it until an invection started. Man.., this time it was serious, and after 2 doctors , they revered me to a specialist who wanted me to go for a scan. I refused because I dont want my brain to be scaned unnecessary. I decided if we truly believed that God can heal us then this was the time to trust Him. My ear stated to heal slowly and I could just thank Him. Truely a miracle. Thankyou Lord
Hey rob allen, I have a question regarding seals that I need help with, I do shore dives and seals constantly steal my fish, do you have any tips for that? Thanks
Sorry, I have never dived with seals and do not know anyone who has suggested a way to prevent them from taking fish. Is this while fighting the fish or, off the stringer? One option is to take the fish out the water and put it in a float boat. There are many versions out there. Guys also use these to stop sharks eating their fish off their stringer.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing I go at millers point in false bay, I use your cobia 800 and it works like an absolute bomb, with a single rubber i managed to snipe a galjoen but in millers the seals have become used to the divers there and are known to be cheeky
Hey guys, Toc is an amazing diver and spearfisherman, and an awsome dude aswel! Love watching his content, it is very inspirational and educational for us newby spearos 😂 well done Toc mate!!
@@RobAllenSpearfishing Mahalo! Do they last long enough that one ends up spending less money on them over time vs cheap work gloves? Or at least does one end up wasting less natural resources (rubber etc.) over time? (I'm willing to spend more to help the earth.)
@@quinnculver4336 No idea, I have never done a comparison. Very difficult to do accurately. The inner Dyneema fabric is stronger than Kevlar so should show very little wear com[paired to cheap work gloves. If the nitrile rubber wears, you can touch them up with contact adhesive.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing What do you think of just measuring average total dive hours for different types of gloves? The statistical analysis would be easy with some data. (I could do that for you.) For example if you had some people use each kind of glove and record (estimated) dive hours of each. Of course, more data is better.
@@quinnculver4336 Way too many variables to do it like this. I can dive 100 times and hardly damage the gloves but, on one dive where there is a bad sea with big surges and, the reef is covered in rough shells like oysters, mussels and or barnacles, the gloves can take a much greater beating on that one dive.
Hey Rob, if I would like to convert my Scorpia 700 (non rail) with 6.3 mm spear to roller, what bands should I use and should I change the barrel and spear too?
Roller guns work best with a 7mm or 7,5mm spear on a rail barrel. You would be changing everything but the handle. Better to keep the Scorpia as a 2nd gun and buy a roller to what ever set up you want.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing It's sold as a replacement, but it's very different. I use it for cleaning resin residue off aluminium moulds after wind turbine blade manufacture. It beats acetone hands down. I will probably get a chance to try it on my new gun as I've ordered a new sticker for it. Will let you know.
Hi Rob, thanks for the How to Series. Any chance you could show us how you rig your new Vecta2 belt reel with the wishbone bead and plastic sleeve at the end? Is it using an arbor, figure 8 or EBSB knot? Thanks in advance
Hi Rob If any, what are the disadvantages of the thinner wall in a 90cm Cobia? I love the lightness but dont want to shoot myself in the foot by not going for the Sparid. Accuracy? Range? Etc. Only looking at wall thickness comparison, all else accounted for my end. Thanks!
At this short a length there are only advantages, no disadvantages. Even if you powered it up it will be fine. No need for the heavier wall on such a short gun.
Hey Rob, I love the design and really appreciate the energy you put into R&D and innovation for spear fishing. A story for context and a couple of questions regarding drop barbs, today we had two >80kg tuna (southern bluefin) that we plugged with what we thought were good holding shots (one lateral line behind pectoral fin, grazed bone by the looks of the shaft. The other top down, behind the head, went in deep) Both fish ran, got pulled in a bit (the first one almost to where we could have gotten a second shot in) then ran again hard, drowning 2 35L 45psi floats, Then the barbs pulled out. Floats were on full bungee line, with at least 15m (at stretch) between first and second float. Both shafts came up bent, with no trace of damage to the dyneema. Any guesses what happened? Does this happen to other people? Could a longer length of dyneema on the toggle help? I use a double roller, if I make a long toggle, can I safely run it back to the line release I trust the system and have previously landed fish that I don’t think we could have on other setups. But we were surprised to lose both these and bend both 8mmshafts! Thanks again
Hi Daniel, I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I have heard of very few losses like this so, puzzling. You say the spear cam back bent with the Dyneema, was the drop barb still on? The fact the spears were bent, meant they were still in the body while the fish was pulling. So yes, a longer tether for these larger fish would be much better. In retro spec, 8mm spears will mostly be used on larger fish so we should have fit longer Dyneema tethers. We have only recently introduced these. Both the Dyneema tether and drop barb can hold up to 200kg. 2 x 35lt floats will go under at +- 70kg of tension but at speed, this will increase the load. My initial thoughts is that the spear, while still in the fish due to the depth it went and the short tether, acted as a leaver. Pending on where the pivot point was, it could easily have put 2 to 3 x the load. If the barb was still on it meant the load was sufficient to drag the drop barb through the flesh. Obviously the best is to get it through the fish and out the other side but... difficult on a big fish.
Im looking at reducing one of your 100cm rails to 90cm. From watching this i assume i cant push my original plug deeper into the barrel before cutting it shorter? We have propper hydraulic press at work for bearings that i could use. I was worried about the barrel exploding.. 😂 If not how do i get a new plug in the uk? Thanks Rob
Pushing it further down is no problem, just do it while the handle is off. Once you have cut and set the plug, might be an idea to add a little sealant on top. The plug should not move without it but always better to be sure that water will not force its way past.
Assuming it is intended for bluewater use, Why not, 3*14 on 340-350% or 3 *16 mm 300% with an 8 mm shaft. No one is going to use 3 rubbers speargun for reef that two 14 mms can do with equal results. Btw, what a beautiful muzzle though ,❤👍👍 go buy a 120 cm carbon barreled RA speargun with that muzzle and two Shafts, a7 mm and an 8mms, 3x14 mm rubber, you'll get yourself a speargun for almost every occasion.
You will be supersized just how many requests we have had for this 3 rubber muzzle with 12mm rubbers. There are many youngsters, some ladies and persons with shoulder issues who can't even load a 14mm rubber but can load a 12mm. The 12mm works fine on our standard guns up to a 7,5mm spear. The 8mm in our opinion is just too heavy and creates way too much recoil. The weight of an 8mm works best on a Timberline gun. Also, our ability to add buoyancy with the Timberline barrel helps massively to compensate for the 8mm spears mass. We have done test on all set ups and have no problem using 3 x 14mm on the Timberline with an 8mm spear.
@@RobAllenSpearfishing That's a fair assesment 🫡👍👍, people really do wants different things from this muzzle. Some saw it as a way to help them ease their loading efforts. But to some, like me, adding this bad boy to a timberline gun might persuade me to buy one of the timberline series. I'm sorry Rob, but the timberline series are just too pricy for me 😂😅✌️✌️. I understand the added buoyancy and strength to that barrel, but to add a roller muzzle to that barrel seems redundant, why add something that already have little to no recoil to a timber-fortified carbon barrel? And why only stop at two rubber muzzle, even when we know that narrel can handle more power and recoil. This three banded muzzle is just what the timberline series needed. The possibilities of adjusting your setup to your environment without changing your muzzle is really impressive. No disrespect tho, just sharing my frustation😁
Great videos. I think the simplicity of the knot has to be considered, at least for me. Maybe I’m not good with knots. I’ve found the bowline to be good although according to this video maybe it will be good to burn a slightly larger “bulb” at the end to stop is from slipping in extreme cases
You mention a “from the hip” shot in the video. We’ve had a lot of poor viz this year and I find myself needing to take these shots too. Is it normal to miss some very easy shots using this method? I hit my fair share too I just find it much more unpredictable and wondered if you had any hip shot aiming tips, or if it’s just a feel you need to develop.
Those who can shoot from the hip don't aim even when their arm is out straight, it seems to be all about how you aim, instinctive or, actually try get everything lined up.
Maybe just wandering about, maybe kill the hook system for the circular bands, that hook maybe can cause a tangle or the line could be stuck in one of those? Or is just me being crazy hahaha.
