And Elizabeth didn't have an example of a devoted family man ( her father Henry 8); I'm quite sure she eventually found out what happened to her mother and was old enough to see what happened to Catherine Howard . Plus her father's other wives.
In those days retaining power meant life insurance. Whatever power she delegated was a doorway to the potential of her destruction. As a woman there were too many that wanted to see her toppled, not so much because of misogyny, but because at that point in time, few queens had had successful reigns
She knew she was barren. She loved Her Eyes. She lover her power more. She didn’t need a husband, she already has a lover She didn’t need a friend, she have plenty. She didn’t need a King consort, she has the heart and stomach of a King. She didn’t need children, she had all English people as her most loved children. She didn’t need protector because she was the protector . She didn’t need a supplier, she was wealthy enough. She didn’t need a master because she was master and mistress of her world. She didn’t need anything, she was Gloriana....
The video omits the fact that Robert led Elizabeth's troops in Holland and he angered her when he knighted many men and accepted the offer by the Dutch to be their governor.
@@gerritpeacock3571 You're confusing him with his stepson, the Earl of Essex. Essex did knight many soldiers in Ireland and he angered Elizabeth further by making peace with the Earl of Tyrone.
I can see by that portrait of Robert Dudley why they chose Robert Harding to play him in the TV play Elizabeth with Glenda Jackson, they do look a lot alike. I love your videos, I also like the manner in which you present them. You have an excellent speaking voice and you relate things that most historians leave out. Thank you and I hope to see a lot more. Maybe Richard II, John of Gaunt and Henry Bolingbroke as suggestions and yes Edward III.
You must be kidding! When I first saw Robert Hardy as Dudley, I was SO disappointed. I think he was terribly miscast as Dudley. First, he had absolutely no sex appeal and he certainly didn't have the physique of Robert Dudley, at least as I've heard he was described as a young man. I haven't watched "Elizabeth R" again because of Robert Hardy.
I think he got such a big head over his position that he WOULD have risked killing ( having killed) his wife in order to assume his ultimate goal of marrying Elizabeth.But I think she was very smart and was an excellent judge of character and knew there was no man who would do,and not try to control her in the reigning of her countries affairs.This is very wise of her and why ,I think,she never married.She had a distaste of most men and the connivings and falseness of most men and people around her in general..due to the molestation and childhood impositions put upon that may have affected her still in adulthood.I can totally understand .
I'm not sure what Elizabeth was expecting when it came to Dudley. She kept this man on a leash for years knowing full well that she wasn't gonna marry him or anybody. A person can only wait for so long
Robert Dudley had an illegitimate son, who became a highly respected diplomat in the European royal courts! You left that very important bit out! His legitimate son, by Lettice Knollys, died at the age of five, from some sort of fever. Poor child!
Elizabeth was very intelligent and assertive but she also was full of mercy. She never wanted to know about executions. She never wanted that responsibility. She had Walsingham as her FBI agent. Without him she would of been murdered for sure. She never wanted her cousin executed. She remembered how her life was spared by her own sister. She was very upset and broken hearted by Mary of Scott's execution. But the Catholics at the time would of murdered Elizabeth without batting a eye. Poor Elizabeth. I can't imagine all the trauma she faced in her life. Her own mother was executed by her father, she also witnessed Catherine Howard's arrest and execution. Her own sister was considering executing her. No wonder she never trusted men and marriage. Power makes people crazy. Even though she loved Robert, she knew she could never marry him. She was a sensitive, heartfelt woman who had to mask her emotions with hardcore strength and disiveness. That's why she reigned for 40 years. She had Walsingham and his team of spies, her council and her faith. A woman of great intelligence and wit with conviction of heart is not a force to be reckoned with.
@@lovepower4899 To an extent. But she also was afraid of her own death. Which tells me she didn't exactly have a clear conscience. But she did at least show remorse. Unlike her father who thought he was right 100% of the time.
@@HistoryRoadshow Oops! I only discovered 'History Roadshow' this afternoon, when I came across your Robert Dudley documentary. Now that I have found the documentary that I (foolishly/hastily) requested earlier I would like to repeat my thanks for providing so much of such interest 🙂
Plain and simple Elizabeth was smart enough to know that any man would encroach on her purview. Plus after the smallpox scaring it is likely she was not so attractive. The older she got the smarter she got until Leicester ...she must have been truly vulnerable and lonely by then.
We'll never know for sure how "intimate" Elizabeth and Robin were, but they were definitely more than friends, however you want to define that. Various books written about Elizabeth, both fiction and nonfiction, suggest certain levels of romantic involvement between the two. Some of the speculation seems very plausible, but no one knows for sure, so the speculation continues....
I often wonder if Burley had Robert’s wife killed. As things were going Amy was likely to die from her breast cancer fairly soon, and then there would be no impediment to Elizabeth marrying him. Burley saw this as a MAJOR political problem though. However if Robert’s name was tainted by the hint that he had something to do with his wife’s death, even though the Queen loved him Burley knew that she was level-headed enough to see that she could not follow through with a marriage to him. It would have been easy to have arranged a private meeting with Amy (about the only reason that a lady of the manor would send EVERYONE else in the household away for the day) - and then either Burley, or one of his men knocked her out and threw her down the stairs. I also suspect that Robert later married Lettice because she was so much like her cousin, Elizabeth, in looks, style and character….
Elizabeth Tudor may have had her foibles and weaknesses, some of which were absolutely appalling, but she did understand friendship, and the need for excellent governance of her country. Among many other things!
@@HistoryRoadshow , I am not surprised by your reply, Elizabeth Tudor lost her mother at an very early age, 3 years old, and her father was a difficult, untrustworthy, temperamental, and bloodthirsty person to live with. He had something like 72, 000 people executed in his lifetime. And left the country in financial debt because of his uncontrolled spending of money. Ugh!
Great video as usual. But funny how you didn't mention that other favorite Robert, Leicester's "stepson"😉 the Earl ofEssex, and how Leicester trained him (or tried to) on how to get by at court, and most especially, how to deal with Elizabeth.
You should read "My Enemy the Queen" its about cousin Lettice. I'm not sure of its historical accuracy, but it certainly spurred my interest in historical (esp. Tudor) figures as _actual_ people.
Robert Dudley was the elder brother of Guildford Dudley the young husband of lady Jane Grey who were pawns in the plot to make them king and queen instead of Mary Tudor.Both executed.The "Guildford" name comes from the family name of Robert and Guildford's mother.
Robert Dudley is a direct descendant of mine. as are a number of lords and ladies through the ages, two monarchs and counting. i wonder how many people watching this are also related to him and do not know....Elizabeth was related to me through Mary Boleyns marriage to stafford. ever since i was little the tudors fascinated me, now i know why its astounding. i watch these documentaries now with a renewed vigour lol.
Elizabeth said that nothing unseemly had passed between her and Robert when she was suffering from smallpox when she was about 27 or 28 years old. She didn't die then and obviously, that left many years when something "unseemly" could've occurred. I do not believe she repeated such a statement when she really was on her deathbed in 1603.
The thing with history is, it's been told so many times, it's quite difficult to know where the truth begins and ends. However, it's still fascinating. Thank you for watching 😊
@@HistoryRoadshow his portrait is in hampton court lmao. That should tell you something. There were hidden secrets, and Elizabethan England was a police state.
You didn’t even quote THE MOST IMPORTANT, CENTRAL, AND WELL-KNOWN PART OF QUEEN ELIZABETH I’s SPEECH TO THE ENGLISH TROOPS AT TILBURY: “I know the body of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a King, and of a King of England too!”
It seems extremely unfair that a Queen in her own right could not taken an open lover if she chose too. Without a husband/king consort she had to be the "Virgin Queen" to the world. But a King could take lovers with or without a Queen Consort. I dont understand why the court would care who kept her bed warm as long as she controlled the realm. Yeah, she showed favor to Dudley and a few others. But she would of been the same great queen she was even if she openly took Dudley as her friend with benefits
I read many years ago that as according to research on Israeli kibbutz, children raised together as children show not the natural propensity for marriage to one another. being peers from early life seems to have somehow a prohibiting suppression of that particular impulse. I loved your thoughtfulness here respecting Her Majesty's sensibility and her rarified stance regarding those intra-active relationships throughout society, which carried immeasurable weight upon all concerned then, and upon Western history today and as a whole moving forward. her life meant much to the world and her legacy lives on. maybe what i recall once read also plays a part in Dudley and Elizabeth's very unique love - that they were close as young children, having been brought up together scholastically in the same household for a duration of time. ??? p.s. i heard that Elizabeth wanted to give Mary co-reign status as a gesture of trust and resolution, but the wise and level-headed gentleman and right-hand man, Hatfield dismissed it at once! you see, a man is needed in every woman's life, even a monarch as wonderful as her! ; )
All her life she knew Robert so was a close and loving relationship, she later distrusted him over being suspect of having his wife murdered. What suited her more, 'The Virgin Queen' with many 'close men' who worked harder and accomplished more with her type relationship with them.(Praise, love and rewards came with exploring, battle and discovery, she is my favorite of all UK;s rulers.)
@@HistoryRoadshow the royals still hunt for pleasure. Prince Philip essentially founded the World Wildlife Foundation so he would have exotic animals to shoot.
Probably the most unwise thing Elizabeth ever did was to elevate Essex. She tended to choose favorites who were like her father...ambitious, daring, intelligent and impulsive. Her usual political genius failed because of her blindness that derived from this subconscious content of her attachment to Essex.
Please forgive the dumb question, but I don't know much detail about Elizabeth's history and have been enjoying this historical videos... Did her physicians know for sure if she was able to bear children? And or a virgin? I have heard she may have had fears of childbearing because of Jane Seymour, but again, I really don't know much and am very curious & fascinated, especially ti why she never married or had a successor. Thank you for your patience if anyone replies.
Hi Salome, The channel was originally set up to explore heritage sites across the UK, but due to covid and lockdown, this wasn't possible. I didn't want to stop the channel so moved into what you see today. Hopefully, I'll be able to get out and about again soon. But that's where the name History Roadshow originates. If interested you'll find some videos on places visited. Enjoy your day 😊
I have a question, Why did Elithabeth hate PHillip II so much? Was it beacuse he was deeply catholic or because he had been her brother-in-law for a while? I don't' understand because if both countries had been together, they had been the most powerful ones in Europe and England could have had the money she needed without spending so much molney in wars
Given how he treated Mary, an tried to marry her after Mary's death. Phillip gave her many reasons to hate him. England its self was happy to have him around
Bullshit. If Mary hadn’t been such an idiot she wouldn’t have lost her throne in Scotland so she wouldn’t have ever been at Elizabeth’s mercy in the first place. Sadly for Mary she WAS an idiot and she lost Scotland, and England and then her head 💀.
When you are discussing various courtiers’ jealous and resentful perspectives on Robert Dudley, 1st Earl of Leicestrr, *WHY* does your video linger for sooooooooooo long on the famous, well-known portrait of King Philip II of Spain, Portugal, and The Low Countries? The King looked nothing like Dudley, and while Philip, like Dudley, was an early of his recent sister-in-law Queen Elizabeth I (having been married to Queen mary I, older sister of Elizabeth), King Philip, *unlike* Dudley, eventually became Elizabeth’s most dangerous enemy. After Queen Elizabeth I executed her Catholic cousin and rival for the English throne, Mary Queen of Scots, Philip II marshaled together the massive Armada of the vast New World Empire of Spain in 1588; ordered the best-trained and disciplined, most victorious army in all of Europe--the 43,000 Spanish soldiers under the command of the Duke of Alba in the Spanish Low Countries--to be ready to board the Armada , cross the Channel, invade England, and depose Queen Elizabeth I. England survived primarily because terrible storms at sea scattered most of the Armada, and bc the Duke of Alba’s professional Spanish army (for which the English simply had no “answer”) was never able to cross the Channel, and soon became bogged down in suppressing nearly continual Protestant revolts in the Netherlands.
Read Leceister's commonwealth...it will shock you! He and elizabeth poisoned people lol. He took out many of his rivals and didn't even have to lift a finger since he received the queen's protection. Adulterous lovers and murderers
@@brontewcat death of his wife , death of his and Elizabeth’s contenders , death of lettice knollys’ husband . How convenient for him to marry her right after :D .
Mary Stewart (Queen of Scots) was her first cousin (she was beheaded, by Queen Elizabeth 1 because of the Babington Plot to overthrow Queen Elizabeth I). Mary had a son, James VI King of Scotland, & James I King of England & Ireland, he was next in line to the English throne, finally joining England and Scotland.
