Why not just keep the door open after having placed the workpiece on the rack ? You wouldn't have to open it again when picking up the scrap for disposal.
They run coolant to both cool the cutting tip(s) and to flush away chips. The high pressure coolant where I work runs at 1000psi. You can imagine the mess it would make if you left the door open!
@@marcseclecticstuff9497 Look again, machine was waiting for a new stock, there's no reason to close the door in between of picking up the last workpiece and the scrap leftover. That's just lazy programming
There is a reason, limited interface with machine tool. No robot interface was on the machine, and only 2 spare M codes. So 2 separate routines are selected and run, 1- door open, part removal, door close. 2- door open, part removal, door close. Cycle time is not a concern for this application.
Why not used auto door system (pneumatic) ?? It's good if you wanted to decrease cycle time. And also one robot can run two or three CNC simultaneously.
@Jianniu CHEN yea So intresting consumer, they are fund thousands of money for buying a robot and they are cannot add 100 usd for pneumatic cylinder? @AutomationSolutionss if i was there i would try to convince buy by referenced a break-even analysis. because nearly 25% more work possible. (16 secons per Cycle time)
my thoughts exactly - the linear fine moves on the Fanuc are so slow relative to what a cylinder would do- but not knowing the volume requirements makes this a hard question-
@@becuasegoodreason 100 USD for a ~600mm stroke cylinder? Sounds like a good deal. Does your price include the control valve, wiring, air fittings, service unit, position sensing, mounting bracket, installation and integration?
@@AutomationSolutionss most sweat shops I know just give a man another hat to wear in order to save cost. They will make operator out of the janitor, then maintenance tech out of operator/janitor, then robotic programmer out of all the above. More responsibility with little pay. This is roughest when you work for yourself. The side effect is that a business run poorly like that is a breeding ground for experience for the technicians. They will go and find better paying jobs.
I think the robotic arm is only suitable for simple projects. If it is to manufacture expensive workpieces, it will cause huge losses in the event of an accident.
We have several of these that are used to transfer axles from one machine to another. They are quite useful in heavy part manufacturing. Much more nimble and fast than manually hoisting the part into place.
how many peoples one barrel of oil(about 4800MJ of energy) unemployed? how many peoples one 1ton of TNT unemployed? how many peoples one telephone line unemployed? The work is not the man purpose but unpleasant necessity.
What a is that a $50,000 robot arm for a $40,000 machine that moves at snail speed that a no experience operator can do. Plus it doesn't check the parts. I worked on some fancy ass setups and in my old building we had a few robot arm stations that ran 2-3 mill machines at a time along with setting them up in fixtures for the cmm. It ran a 100% cmm check than place it on 1 of 2 conveyors. 1 good parts and1 bad. Everything we made was medical or aerospace but these were all medical parts I'm talking about. This just causes you to need to have someone that knows how to fix it when it's down in the building that is paid a lot along with someone who is able to write the code for it on hand. I also assume this machine will never be changed over unless the customer leaves them.
I noticed you edited the value back from $200k. This robot supply and install was less than $20k as they found a 2nd hand unit fit for purpose. The robot and machine run at the necessary speeds to suit the customers requirements
@@Blashyrkh2124 an 18 minute machining cycle, the robot is spending about 6 seconds to open and close the door. With an auto door, the robot\cnc will still have to wait for the door to open and close. So you may save 1 second on overall cycle time.
Really not sure what you mean and how you can make the assumption from that video. I am standing outside the robot cell which is protected with steel mesh panels on the sides and a light curtain across the front. If I could reply with photos I would show you the full layout
>5 minute machining cycle that's why. And more than a cylinder, valve sensors integration. and for what saving? Its not a magic door, robot and machine have to wait for door to open close anyway. so you are only saving the 1 second each motion to swing to/from the door area once its opened/closed.
You should read the other comments, the machining cycle is very slow, in the minutes. Saving 3 seconds a cycle with an auto door isn't worth the customers expense.
More than a cylinder, also a valve, sensors, cables, installation, and programming. For what? A 2 second gain (robot and machine still need to wait for auto door to open\close) on an 18 minute cycle? This customer (and others) can't justify that.
Everyone says beutiful and so and so, does anyone think that this Machine unimployed 3 Men maybe ?! at least. And the scariest one is that the world is going in this direction, and we cant do anything,population is growing, robotics is growing. Where are we heading to?! Sory for my english , not my mother language.
No one lost their job here. He couldn't find people interested in doing the work. So now his people are doing the 'smarter' jobs in the factory (gauging, setting, etc)
how many peoples one barrel of oil(about 4800MJ of energy) unemployed? how many peoples one 1ton of TNT unemployed? how many peoples one telephone line unemployed? from time of industrial revolution there is more and more jobs, and overall standard of living go up and up, the robots and and AI is boogie man for hundreds of years.
Also, the robot is, at least I bloody well hope, taught several reference frames. Worst case scenario you remaster, ans reteach the reference frames. Robot will be back up in half a day, easy. Besides, Fanuc robots are incredibly durable. I work with 11 and in three years never had any issues such as you are imagining. At any rate, far more productive than man operated machines.
@@rawrimadeinosaur7513 it is steel tube so very light. Machine cycle is slow, so little benefit in running robot at 100% to gain 5 seconds on on ~10 minute cycle.
Being new to fanuc robots and most of that experience being with IRVision. How would one write the code to adjust for the different positions of the material and the placement of the final products? Is there a sensor I’m not seeing? it doesn’t look like the robot pauses long enough for a sensor to be utilized for 3D imaging.
@@Blashyrkh2124 yep, pretty much. Not using pal function, just my own program to calc position and write to pr. Movements to\from chuck are generic, and just have an offset for part length
@@AutomationSolutionss I should admit I don’t have much experience using calculus. Are there any videos or literature you would recommend I take a look at to be able to learn how to do things similar to what you are describing?
@@radiocts5179 Adam Willea's videos on RU-vid are most helpful. But best is just to pick up a robot, and the operators manual and go. Or use Roboguide alternatively. But really think about repeatability. Make sure the robot is mastered correctly and that you use well taught, repeatable tool and user frames.
No one has lost their job at this facility, and are producing more volume. Employees now feel more secure due to volunteer of work and there owners investment into the company.
yes that was scrapped material... in right you can se the required material .. which robot puts thet gently and in left there is scrap .. and in every billet there is some waste at last
i love it. but its slower than a human. the only benefit is it can work 24/7 without breaks or crying about "wanting to go home" or being "paid". you feed it electricity and code and it happily hums along. power it off the sun and its free labor after ROI.
These robots can operate scarily fast, but for durability its probably running slower. Besides, because it can run lights out, 24/7, it's a whole lot faster than man.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, the Fanuc R2000 165F was selected for it's reach, not payload. It was also available 2nd hand, kitted out as seen in the video. Too good a unit and deal to pass up.
Why? If you add a probing cycle to the machine, parts could be well acccurate. You could even have the robot change tools when the machine probe meassures near end of tolerance.
