Rockers vs. Record Labels 

yeah.... they were actually IN DEBT to the record company when it came out and all those sales went to "making up that debt"...... Like WTF....?

If we’re going outside of rock and metal (somewhat), than Chess Records definitely takes the cake of how they took advantage of their artists.

Comparing the contract to legislation is really interesting. Cuz that really happens! Every law that gets passed has so many things added in the fine print

Purple Rain was just an introduction to what that man was capable of. I see clips today that put some of metal’s greats to shame. He was amazing! Shy really. But amazing. 😘😘😘🤘He was one of very few that were trying to show all people how to get out from under “the man’s” thumb. But he knew what I know, there’s too many Karen’s. The people, like in biblical times, have little faith. There’s a pill for every illness or anxiety. Sorry to say he proved that too.

Hence why he changed his name to just a symbol. It was a big FU to the record company.

Once he got the rights back to his name, he released a phenominal album called 'The Rainbow Children'. It's a masterpiece.

Prince said he generated 400 million dollars a year, and got 7 million. That was just one issue Prince had with Warner Brothers.

I'm also a cd guy and never stopped buying them. There is a really cool record store by me that sells new cds at $13USD. And used ones for as little as $1USD

Its always been expensive

Keep your eye out for $5-$10 USD CDs and $15-$20 USD vinyl LPs in new condition. They are more common than you might think on the internet. I’ll snag an $18 vinyl LP quickly if it’s an album I really like. I think $18 USD equals to about $20 or $21 in Canadian dollars, but I’m not exactly sure.

Thats why he's fkin God

most of the extra high prices you're paying to private sellers scalping shit

Spoken like a true non-musician. If you were one, you'd know about bands screwing over record labels. Or are you not ready to have that conversation?

@@DiminishingAugmentation name ONCE where a BAND "screwed " a Record Label.....

@@DiminishingAugmentation What record label do you work for lmao

Right which is really screwed up!

It was their manager the song is about, Flick Of The Wrist is another manager mockery song.

@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 Norman Sheffield was their manager and he (along with his brother Barry) owned Trident studios. Queen’s recording, publishing and managing went through them. He gave them studio time while also laying claim to the band’s output. Supposedly he was driving expensive cars while rationing out drumsticks to Roger. To be fair, the Sheffield/Trident put money up front for the early gigs, costumes, tours. Norman Sheffield later wrote an interesting book “Life On Two Legs”.

As he always delivered.

So is Trent Reznor. He pays his on stage musicians as low as he possibly can. Weird how the oppressed became the oppressor 🙄

Absolutely true from what ive seen.I'm a fan of the underground heavy metal scene and i have heard a lot of those bands have gotten screwed over by these labels pulling this fucking bullshit about publishing and royalties. They were ripping these guys off because that music didn't sell millions. And they played all these games with those kind of bands because it's really about greed not art. A band like Celtic frost is a prime example of how they got screwed over in the 80s because they were doing something very different at that time and their record label was pulling all kinds of bullshit...canceling tours canceling videos messing with their albums productions etc...just insane and they got away with it back then. You gotta watch everything they do when you sign a record contract cause you never know what they're going to pull.

Can be? The labels is why the industry is in the toilet!

That right cause stars are known for their low maintence and down to earth approach to things.

even a broken clock is right at least once a day.

Artists make their money touring. Now the record companies want to get into a cut of everything to do with that now, including merch. Record companies are a bad deal.

Only if your dumbass gets caught

Good for you square

That being said, I love Nine Inch Nails, but stealing from a retailer doesn't put money in their pocket.

@@GarciansVortex Love the 1940s jazz reference. It's very hip.

But the process of creating art is costly

They aren't putting a price on creativity. Its everything else. I really don't want to defend record labels, but most of the positions in the video are misinformed or ignorant. The labels typically give the artists an advance, they pay for the album to be recorded, they pay for the marketing of the album, etc. All of which can end up costing millions to tens of millions of dollars. Around 95% of artists signed to labels actually lose money, and will never make back what the labels spent on them. Because of that the top 5% of all artists subsidize the remaining 95%. There are plenty of reasons to hate the labels and go after them. I just don't think this is it. If we went after all the companies involved in the music industry and stopped them from making money they would shut down, which means everyone from the receptionists, the pr people, to agents and the heads of the labels would be out of work. The ones who would take the biggest hit would be new up and coming artists. Sure the big names would be fine, but the little guys would never get the chance to potentially make it big. There's always 2 sides to each coin, the artists that complain the loudest are always the top artists, who are already worth millions, the same ones who claim to be looking out for the little guy, while simultaneously advocating for things that would directly hurt the same people they claim to be trying to help, and enriching themselves even more.

Artists need to eat.

If art shouldn’t be a product, then why do musicians sell it? The answer to one extreme is not equal & opposite extremes

They don’t give a fuck about music. They’re putting a price on your attention and wallet. They absolutely can put a price on venues, the bus, the plane, the elec, the lighting, the roadies, other crew, and artist… That shit ain’t free. Corpos are scum but art can be sold, whether you wanna feel liberal about it or not.

She is trying to say something good but has the lack of knowledge to pull it off! All the bands she listed do have their own lawyers! She can’t say much because she has basically been living off the money Kurt still brings in over her own careers accomplishments!

Newsflash, Taylor’s versions are just money gimmicks! Big Machine Records is distributed by UMG! Republic Records is under UMG! Swift is under UMG! Can you see the dots to connect them? It’s just the beginning of the proof that she is a fraud! She talked bad about Big Machine but reluctantly forgot to tell her fans & others they are under the UMG umbrella!

Nothing to do with capitalism. The uneducated are always exploited. Young musicians tend to be uneducated.

If you say so😂😂😂Blanket Statements made by idiots. Fuck record labels

The liberal version of capitalism you mean. The American version of capitalism works for everybody who works for it.

Come paint my house for free, I bet you 500 bucks you won’t

Read the arguements against your positions.

People aren’t dumb for spotting garbo when they saw it If anything, you’re the dim one for taking so long to understand why clearance-sale prices don’t encourage anybody else lmao

The artists would be nobody?

stop the cap there's shittons of artists without record labels n they do just fine lol google exist

In the old days yes (pre 2005) these days no.

They can help the artist get more exposure and they should be rewarded for that, it’s just that the artists feel they get greedy and take more than they should

Sooooooo that means they can steal from and exploit them at will?

That’s why I quit going to live shows. I remember being in high school and $60 would get you a ticket, a tshirt and a tour poster. Last show I went to was Knotfest Iowa 2021 and was probably the last show I will go to. Fuck Live Nation and Mammoth.

Last concert I went to was Type O Negative in 2008. Tickets were about $25.