Rocksolid Rustoleum LIES! Watch this before you buy it! | Shop Build Ep 04 

With all the ads in this video, that should be enough for the next 15 boxes of rock solid! lol 😂

Rent that floor sander again to strip that paint off, use watered down muriatic acid to really etch that concrete. Rinse it very well and then put down 2 part epoxy. Floor tiles might be a good alternative if you don't want to do all that work.

Next time, go to your local paint store like Sherwin-Williams, they could have got you what you needed in 1 stop. They are pretty good at figuring out how much you need the first time

I just can't stop being happy for y'all having this shop space now.

Those plasic tiles from your old garage would look slick.

You need a grinder and grind that floor clean. And make sure there's no moisture in the concrete, not raining outside or has rained in a while, and run a dryer over the concrete, kinda like you see on race tracks with the truck dying the track.

I’m sure it looks amazing. You guys are going to be able to get so much more work done in a bigger shop.

I heard to put down a epoxy based primer to seal the concrete before you put the main stuff down. This prevent moisture from coming up through the concrete.

I definitely used 3 (2.5-car garage) kits on my 2-car garage and it came out AMAZING!!!

Lets bring this channel back where it belongs boys, like every video!!!

We did ours and it came out great!

I hit THEM up and they hooked me up. Prepping the MOTO PILOT garage as we speak. So much work but gonna be worth the pain.

Chase, if you want to paint to stick you're going to have to strip the floor again and grind it down then put down a skim coat of self leveling concrete. We had the same issue on a floor at one of the fire houses I worked at. It was an old bay that had oil soaked into it for years. Had a pro installer come in to do the floor with spray on epoxy. Within a month the epoxy was bubbling up and pealing. Had to have the company come back and ground down 3/4 of an inch and put down a thick skim coat and redo the epoxy. After that it stuck and had no more issues.

It may have been cheaper to hire out for it....

I bought rock solid marble for my garage since I seen your older video. How has it held up for you? Should I do it?

I was going to buy Rustoleum garage epoxy for my basement floor; mostly to keep any residual radon out. I have 1110 sq/ft to work with, so it's nice to see how this product works for others so I can better guestimate what to expect.

Perfect timing uploading this video. Just finished watching you cry over the electrical. 😂

So how many square feet did the rust oleum cover????

Did you consider putting down a primer? I know they say you don't need to, but I'm wondering if it would extend the square footage of the kit? Could you etch and primer a clean floor before starting the epoxy?

yeah. I used that stuff on my garage floor about 10 years ago. didnt work well at all.

What about lvp or lvt? I put a ton of that stuff down and some have really great texture and non slip properties.

I used Behr concrete and garage on my new workshop floor and the paint chip anyway. Maybe your floor is soaked with oil but Behr paint is kinda suck too. Note that my concrete floor was brand new.

Why did you not fix the walls and floor up before you moved in ?

Temperature could also have had a negative impact on the painting of the floor. Maybe wait until summer months and try again.

What rustolium product did you use?

Aircraft paint stripper. Used this on MC rims before powercoating. Work great needed some fine tuning but it should have been a breeze on that concrete.

I've done it once and learned my lesson, the paint is not the issue (well wasn't my issue) and I used

chase, why didnt you do all the work in the shop first before moving everything into it. now you had to move and cover everything first

I mean what color rustoleum I can't find that bright white anywhere and how did it hold up

I worked in the commercial paint industry. Now retired. Much of what I did was to problem solve industrial and commercial paint problems. Concrete floors are one of the most difficult surfaces due to concrete processes and chemistry. Three problems are common. You may have any of these going on. 1.) ground water vaporizing up through the concrete 2.) highly alkaline concrete 3.) Hardened concrete. Number one and two can be related. If there is hydrostatic pressure (water vapor) it can cause poor adhesion of paint. It can also bring alkaline salts up the concrete surface causing it to be highly alkaline or even corroded and weak. Paint will not withstand alkaline. It will peel easily especially if it is wetted with water. Before attempting to paint bare concrete, you should always do a moisture test. Lay a square yard of plastic sheet down and tape it with waterproof tape all round. Leave it for 24 hours, and if after 24 hrs exactly, there are water droplets on the underside, then there is too mush hydrostatic pressure to successfully paint. If it passes that test, then I would normally do an alkali test with a acid alkali test strip. If it is alkaline, then etch the concrete (etch regardless). Thing is, the proper etching method is to use one part muriatic acid added to three parts water (in that order). Flood the surface, let it fizz and react, then rinse and mop, rinse and mop, then let dry and retest for alkali. If it is still 'hot' then you must etch again. The etching is to chemically change the surface, not just to key it up. By the way, when painting always ensure the floor temperature is sufficient to cure the product. Number three is a situation where you cannot paint unless you sandblast the concrete. Hardened concrete (a special process when laying the floor) cannot be painted unless sandblasted. Etching will not be successful on hardened concrete. I'll also say that I would not trust the Behr garage floor finish. One part epoxy is not true epoxy, since it is not catalyzed. It is a regular floor paint with some epoxy resin tossed in for labelling/marketing purposes. Sorry to flood you with info here, but just in case you are faced down the line with redoing the floor, perhaps you can save this for future reference.

m Maybe you can use the square plates that goes together like legos but they are flat I've see the checkerboard like the finish line in garages maybe that will work for you let me know what you think

Vinyl locking flooring man!! just cover it and that stuff looks great. If that material would suit your needs that is. congrats btw it looks like its gonna be epic!

Any paint that says it has primer in it only has enough to say it’s there. That’s great for going over existing paint but with your stripped floor, you need to use an ultra bonding primer like that Valspar stain blocking bonding primer at Lowe’s.

They heard that those boxes have a large amount of water in them. It evaporates and leave it thin after applied to the floor.

Swisstrax to put on top ? To fix the paint problem for parking bikes 🏍

this is a tough one because I read reviews on Home Depot that said the same thing about the Behr concrete product on other applications

Should just get a mat fitted, like those puzzle bits that fit together, or just fork out and buy some laminated flooring.

the 500 sqf is for already coated floors, bare floors only cover about 200-250 sqf a box.

Definitely need twice the amount shown on the box, my garage didn't came out good cause I had to stretch at the end to finish.

I'm used to watching Brian wrench but I like watching him vacuum the floor too

That intro sounded like it was from a shit 70's sitcom 🤣🤣

Not sure why you moved everything in before you did the floor. Wouldn't it be easier to do the floor in an empty shop?

after the expoxy dries could of probably used a good hard floor polish in multiple layers to seal it down

Don’t use rollers!! Use a squeegee. Makes the job faster, and you will have epoxy left over. I just did a two car garage. It took me a little bit over an hour and a half.

Maybe there's some kind of industrial etch primer that would have solved your problems?

If the paint keeps coming up I would just polish the concrete so what you would do is rent that buffer again grind it flat then get the wheels in progressive finishes and just get some floor polishing compound for concrete and make it shine like marble...

The cement needed to be roughed up first.

i would have just rented a paint eater for the rent all... had to do the same thing to my garage. it was like a concrete sander or something IDK worked like a champ!

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Why don’t u put down some LVF it’s cheap and easy and almost no preparation

What was the lie about?

Gutted flooring is causing so many issues pal, cant wait to see how shop will look when ready.

Holy CALVES Chase! Daaammnn boy they THICK!

You could have done this all in one day. You could have hired a dustlessblasting company to blast the old floor away and etch the concrete. They could been done with that in an hour or two and leave you to painting Food for thought but I liked the video!

Damn Rustomelum!! Reminds me of that time you said Sena Headsets didn't suck complete ass!

With the move, and how long this video took, i hope your time off you actually had time off. Feels like you've been a busy boy since coming back. Edit: Seems this was all recorded before "radio silence". Glad to hear.

From looking at the way you are dressed it must be cold and this stuff doesn’t work well on a floor with moisture or cold temperatures. Mine worked well.

That rustoleum looks like a damn gta garage

I know it's expensive but you should definitely look into swiss tracks or race deck. YOU NEED IT and you can bring it with you if you ever upgrade your shop in the future. Vs losing money and time with the epoxy floors

Do you at least get a break in rent or something for all the improvements you're making at this shop?

And this video proves the point of hiring a professional

Why did yall move everything in then decide to paint do floor do electrical and etc

Have some patience for success!

A decent heavy epoxy resin coating is ways needed here to fully seal and cure the life out of that floor lol

strip the crappy paint off and use self leveling concrete, then epoxy. Buy once Cry once

@chaseontwowheels So what did Rustoleum lie about? Wasn't said in the video nor from what I could see in the comments..

Why didn't you rent a concrete floor grinder?

Just as I thought to myself why don't they rent one of those big floor sanders 🤔😄

My old job we used this machine I think called a shot blaster, resurfacing concrete floors and that finally helped keep the paint and epoxy down and smooth.

Y not the mats like adum lz put in his shop he has a youtube channel and have the video of thim installed it

Man... this is painful to watch haha 😄 that whole floor you could have ground with a walk behind grinder, which you can rent, in about 45 minutes...

Klein-Strip Aircraft paint remover is the best. If this doesn’t work it doesn’t come off.

DUDE, next time just throw down some tile or a linoleum roll. Much less work

Behr paint sucks. But regardless of brand, paint may dry in a few hours, but it can take days or even weeks for it to cure.

You guys are cute. Love your personality ❤❤

Do the team have other jobs or is the channel all of their full time jobs now? Good for them if they are able to make a living out of the content. They deserve it.

Doesn't matter what top coat product you use if your prep isn't right. After sanding should have applied muratic acid then pressure washed . Mopping is the worst thing you could do ,especially with degreaser, all you are doing is spreading old oil around,ugh. Acid opens pores then you pressure wash to remove all debris(oil,dirt,dust etc).

I would rent a floor scrubber and get a coarse pad. It should work with that stripper

Wait... so you moved all of your gear into the shop just to have to move it again so you could do the floors and electrical?? The guys that did DoItWithDans floors looked like they did awesome work.

Swiss Tracs, or however they spell it, for the non work bay side of the shop

So I missed the part where that rustolium epoxy lies. If I remember right it’s the only thing that worked. Why is that the title of the video?

I have a newly poured garage floor that has cured for 3 months, never driven on, that is 600 sq ft. I started with 1 single and 1 2 car kits. This did not cover 1/2 of the floor. I then had to purchase 2 additional 2 car kits from Home Depot. The floor is spotty and does not look a $1,100 dollar floor should look like. According to the product specs the 7 bags should have covered from 1,400 to 1,750 sq ft. Don't waste your time and money on this product.

swisstrax?

My guy. Stop using that crap and check out U-Coat It! Use the polyurethane top coat and the siht is TOUGH AS NAILS! Love the content. Keep on keepin on!

Careful when you take out that trash! I’ve seen lots of guys cut open their legs from taking out the trash with blades in them. Ugly cuts too

Should have rented a floor buffer and gorilla glue sand paper to it

Met a guy that did commercial epoxy coatings for a living. Said rust oleum is horrible and recommended to stay away from it. My family used UCoat-It on two garage floors and actually turned out great. Better in my opinion and has lasted up to 5 years no issues. Easy prep too.

Surface prep is the most important with this product. I used this on a two and a half car garage but instead of using the acid that came with it, I opted to grind the concrete for maximum adhesion. On a large size shop like yours, you should've rented a diamond floor sander at home depot. And I filled the cracks with the rustoleum epoxy patch that they sell. Outcome is flawless and never peels off after over a year. Do not use a degreaser as this will seep more into the concrete. The diamond sander will remove everything from paint to grease as it cuts down about an eight of an inch each pass. Acid etching is what makes it peel because it's hard to wash off the acid after.

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Get it professionally done maybe 🤔

As someone who has stripped and coated floors for over a decade, I could have given you so many tips and pointers of how to make that easier. 😂 Edit: Ah, you did finally go rent a machine. That would have been my first step 👍

That’s good, it would have sucked if it didn’t work. Rock slid ain’t cheap

Put a aluminium check plate floor down

The amount of time and money put into the “business” side, could have just gone with the rocksolid. Hoping that sticks to the oil and what not.

You should talk to the guys the did doitwithdan's floor. His shit looks great

Yo Chase, try that epoxy stuff motonosity used on his garage floor 👍🏾 don't know if it will be cheap though

You didn’t really follow the directions. Can’t blame the coating for your mistakes.

Hindsight is always 20/20, but you should have just done it right the first time and paid a flooring company to come in and put an epoxy coating on there for you. Home Depot also sells kits for you to do it yourself. It's super easy.

Should’ve just paid someone to do it lol

Home done floor kits won’t work for your situation. Too much oil saturation. You’re going to need pro. Resources and materials are better.