The director John G Avildsen was coming off directing the Karate Kid III the year prior in 1989 and as you can notice both h "Rocky V" and "The Karate Kid III" feature the protagonists experiencing betrayal from their once friends. In "Rocky V," Rocky Balboa is betrayed by his former friend and student, Tommy, who with the help of Duke exploits Rocky's vulnerabilities for personal gain. Similarly, in "The Karate Kid III," Daniel LaRusso faces manipulation and betrayal from his mentor and friend, Terry Silver, who schemes to destroy Daniel's confidence and integrity for his own malicious purposes. These instances of student and mentor betrayal serve as pivotal moments in the protagonists' journeys, challenging their trust and forcing them to confront adversity with newfound resolve.
Ironically, this street fight is only one of two times Rocky actually boxes. The other time, of course, "Rocky III." Rocky doesn't box in the other movies, he brawls. He plods along and swings wildly. However, since Tommy Gunn is trained in Rocky's "swat now, block never" style, Rocky switches to Apollo Creed's style of actual boxing to deal with him. Note how Rocky starts dancing around Tommy peppering him with jabs--just like Apollo taught him.
To come up with a score like this mixing hip hop and an orchestra speaks volumes of the genius of Bill Conti…and he created this in the 90s!…almost 30 years ago if you need to be reminded. Agreed?
Agreed... to an extent. Orchestra music has been going hand and hand with Hip-Hop for quite sometime. I think it's evolved quite thoroughly HOWEVER Bill Conti's genius definitely comes in when mixing most of the highlights from the soundtrack of the Rocky series. The Iconic Rocky Intro, to pieces of Gotta Fly, to the steady rift of Eye of the Tiger, to the underlying Hip-Hop beat that dominated most of the Rocky V soundtrack. But the coup de grâce that is the punctuation mark of Conti's brilliance is the point near the climax. To the casual listener it almost sounds like the sample goes off the rails from the beat which is "somewhat" true, but not because of bad mixing. It's more of a testament to the fact that though times and trends may change, the legendary spirit of Rocky Balboa is forever. Bill Conti is an absolute mastermind...
Bill didn't write this, it's just the instrumental version of Snap's "Keep It Up" (on the movie soundtrack, too) , which already sampled Eye of the Tiger. But he sure did spice it up, didn't he?
@@lexkanyima2195 Well, maybe it sounds confused because this wasn't written as a stand alone piece, it was scored for that particular fight scene? Maybe it makes more sense if you watch the scene it came from? I dunno. My ear just likes what it likes sometimes.
You know even though Rocky Balboa (2006) was made to give the franchise a better sendoff. Rocky V always truly felt like the last one while Rocky Balboa feels more like a stand-alone film.
@@jimvanwinkle5997 I agree I was listening to this song when I was wolking back home and 2 school guys came at me I have the right amount of muscls and I go boxing training I beat the bloody hell out of the duds
Imagine being a MMA fighter or a boxer and having to may millions to use it, since its copy-write protected. Now imagine that was more then half you made in a match. Not worth it.
I think the movie was hated because the movies most people saw were 3 and 4, so when people saw 5 people got upset that it didnt make a bigger opponent for rocky to beat. And i really think thats a really dumb thing to think because how do you top Ivan Drago, I mean he killed Apollo the villian would have to be so strong that it would be ridicilous. So, they went back to true to life fighters, but they had to nerf Rocky to make it a challenge. So now he has brain damage and cant train to the fight and its also a street fight and when i saw Rocky do a German Suplex i was pretty stoked. A really underrated movie
@@suzannaoros7675 To be honest with you, Rocky barely beat Draco. Upsets happen in boxing and that doesn’t mean the boxer is stronger just because he won. You’re thinking of boxing like it’s some kind of dragon ball anime or something.
@@Jesuspaid4oursins yeah exactly in Dragon Ball it's always so unrealistic like how each villain is WAAAAY STRONGER than the previous one, but then again it is a fantasy/sci-fi/martial arts anime so it makes sense. I think after Rocky IV Drago could not be topped unless Rocky fought a literal terminator so I'm glad they didn't try to make the next villain SUPER strong and O.P and it still works
You've got a deception going on. This guy is using you for the bait to get you & me in the ring, y'know? To make the money. He didn't care about you Tommy & don't care about me neither!
@stay true Its not a rocky movie i revisit often...do the dialog didn't stick in my head. I'm just connecting the dots between the mickey flashback scene where he said when Rocky was going down he'd tell him to "get up, you son of a bitch!"...and then when Rocky went down he actually heard it in his head.
@@saiyik9493 It's such a funny line because Robert basically got kicked out of his room to let Tommy Gunn stay there and it obviously upset him to the point of using that as an excuse to goad his dad. 🤣
After listening to this I stood up to my neighbor, 17 stitches alright?! But at least I didn't hear no bell, I mean until I found out he knew karate 🤦🏽♂️ I was hearing all types of bells. Christmas bells, church bells, Taco Bells and all. I hope he moves.
I'm sure they did because as D-Mob said it 20 years ago in Def Jam Vendetta that: "We don't fight out in the streets no more, we organizing. Two Gangsters from the garden, so we've taken it underground. Inside".
Honestly, I feel bad for Ivan. He was forced to become a monster. Notice how his line is "I MUST break you." He must because if he doesn't, he could get killed. He has to break him, he has to win, for his sake.
{ After this, a 1990 version of "Gonna Fly Now" begins playing } "God...DAMN!" { Duke looks flabbergasted, realizing that Tommy failed him } "Only in America..."
As well Duke giving fake praises to Rocky after he badly influenced that country bumpkin turncoat sellout leech Tommy to defect & leave his side by not listening to him only to learn the hard way by antagonizing him saying next to both his assistant boy Merlin Sheets alongside with his trophy golddigger soulless ginger redhead Karen which was her name & wonder why we call girls especially the ones who are trapped in a deranged women's bodies after the street fight saying: "Hey Rock, you outclassed the bum, huh"? (Laughing) "Yeah". Adrian: Rocky, don't. (Rocky putting his hand up like "I got this") Karen: Duke. Duke: Touch me, I'll sue. C'mon punk, Touch me, I'll sue. And you know the rest of what happened after he said that.
Damn if only tommy Morrison was still alive. Imagine him being casted on creed 3 facing Adonis. That would be a fuckin best story line ever. Two boxers that were trained by the Rocky Balboa. Go toe to toe shit would be an interesting fight.
So many things to analyze here. But I just say this is absolutely incredible. I love how the instruments VERY subtle change whenever Rocky or Tommy are on offense.
if you go into any boxing gym thinking you're rocky then RIP a good boxing trainer will tell you right away if you got what it takes or just a time waster
I just want to say that it's great seeing all your comments and nobody here is talking shit about "Rocky V" or saying it doesn't exist or a bunch of other such nonsense I hear all over the place. Thanks, guys. Y'all are awesome.
