ROG Crosshair X670E Hero Overview 

I am talking x16 mechanical, haven't even touched on electrical

remember that you wont get 5.0 bandwith..the big lie...you get x4 or x8 whatever pcie your card is ! so 4.0 x8 on a 3090 an x8 3.0 if ypur gpu is older, source me and 3dmark pcie bandwith benchmark, i tested when i realized the cpu linked m.2 on z690 reduced my scores, btw the rest of the bandwith is lost its why i hate z690 so much its a 1 pcie slot plateforme basically, i hope x670 is better, x570 had way smarter bandwith splitting

@@fredEVOIX You seem to be confused between PCIe versions and the number of PCIe lanes you have for a slot or device. If you eventually have a PCIe 5.0 device (there aren't really any available for consumer devices yet) plugged into a PCIe 5.0 capable slot you will get PCIe 5.0 bandwidth for however many lanes the device and slot will both support. Plugging an RTX 3090 (that supports PCIe Gen 4.0) into a PCIe Gen 5.0 slot is not going to magically make it run at PCIe 5.0 bandwidth.

That sucks, you'd hope it would do 8x and 8x if the third was empty, so dual GPU's both get 8x lanes

@@isbestlizard If you don't populate the 2nd M.2 slot, but you do populate both PCIe slots, then both PCIe slots will have eight PCIe lanes. There are only 16 lanes to share between those three slots.

It is supported, answer was posted by asus employee on the rog forum

No, need a thread ripper board for that. :P

Welcome to the third world experience, now coming to a developed country near you!

I suppose the bios is far from what you'd call "mature" right now. I'd give it a couple of months and try the newer version(s).

How's the board so far, this is the one I'm eyeballing I wish they had this in white

ddr5 basically didnt work on z690, 4 sticks was a huge no and only bootable at 4800, and even 2 was sketchy, memory qvl were empty and often the actual supported speeds under the kit xmp, trash i hated it al 2022 and ordered a 7950x x670 for which memory qvls have 10x the kits and at their actual speed, maybe now i can use my corsair 6200 at 6200, qvl even says you can have 4x 6200 !

sitll not worth the price.... 900+ cad dollar mobo for a overhyped mobo maker naw

True, same experience ...

There's a $2K board already.

@@PrimalRampageGaming That's just insane

fucking exactly will cost more than the CPU why are AM5 motherboards so expensive!

Yeah I got one and while its a very nice MB... 700 seems a little steep!

Straight up. You can get a 3080 for that price.

Thanks for pointing that out and stopping me from wasting my time!

The z690 ones shud get down to $400 anytime soon Literally the same features as this

All boards have a bios setting for that, so plug the card in the slot, boot to bios, change the setting, power off and install the riser

@@marcogenovesi8570 In cases like the Lian Li A4H2O, you can't realistically install a card normally. This meant people with sandwich layouts like that had to fully disassemble and reassemble their PC after every BIOS update.

@@BWTHeuSeD Are bios updates so important? I usually update when building and then not touch it again unless there are issues. Anyway for troubleshooting purposes on boards without graphics I have an old nvidia 710, so in that case I would only have to swap the GPU with the sad little 710 to do a bios update. Since the card itself is not PCie 4.0 it would work fine on a non-4.0-capable riser

@@marcogenovesi8570 While it's not common, it's still a very frustrating issue that's resolved by this motherboard.

@@BWTHeuSeD afaik the switch is used only for the last x1 slot, not for the others

came here to say this 👍

Why can't they have more lanes? Because not everyone uses it. AM5 is already expensive as it is and adding more lanes will only make that price more expensive. Most people are already content with an x16 GPU and some x4 M.2 NVME storage solutions. I'm not sure what people would need the extra lanes for. If you want more storage just get an M.2 with more storage. If you want another GPU installed, x8 has nearly identical performance to x16. And plus, SLI is dead in 2023.

Oh damn I remember considering this use case years ago but didn't have onboard-graphics at the time. Thanks for the reminder.

very few motherboards have the video ports...rhe one i want doesnt

You sure they aren't just in the usbc ports?

@@fredEVOIX if your mobo has a usb-c on the rear IO it almost definitely supports DisplayPort over USBC

How? Not if you use the AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D 16-Core

Same. I didn’t want to wait…

​@@fullspeedfordbroncois it staibal aftet 1 year used?

How is the same quality board, when there's now PCIe 5.0 and DDR 5, both of which are much more expensive to do, along with a sizeable uplift in PPT and a move to LGA from PGA? I can understand being disgruntled that only high end boards are released initially and even SOME of the price increase, but the boards a definitely more expensive to produce than last gen (even excluding global supply shortages and inflation).

@@ChrispyNut Have you actually seen the price of PCBs to really make that call? It bothers me quite abit how people are so quick to excuse away price increases or just anything a motherboard vendor does without any real evidence

@@zacharytaylor8523 Nope, going by someone who does know what they're talking about. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-p1riqtgfFsA.html Time stamped to the "sensible" boards, rather than the silly priced boards, but the video's 24 minutes total).

But now with more gimmicks, heatsink LEDs and an add-on card! Great value! /s

@@LastSecBloomer You forgot the most expensive and performant parts. More X's and E's on the model names, they're expensive letters that makes things go reeeeeally fast!

Sorry, the bottom fell out of the kidney market because everyone's selling them to afford to live atm.

Disable it in device manager?

@@KaziQTR I did, it had no effect.

Tell him to get a high end B550 motherboard and a 5800X3D. For video games zen 4 and Intel 13th gen are barely beating the 5800X3D, but the X3D is cheaper, B550 motherboards are cheaper, and you can get 64GB of DDR4-3600 (zen 3 sweet spot) for the same price as 32GB of DDR5-6000 (zen 4 sweet spot). The extra money he can put into a kilowatt PSU and one of the 4000-series GPUs, or he can get a used 3080Ti from an ex-miner and put the extra money in his pocket. The 5800X3D is an incredible gaming processor and will probably last the rest of this decade. The important thing for gaming is the graphics card, and those are hust barely saturating PCIe3x16. PCIe5 is enormous overkill and will be for many years.

I don't think it has to do with the platform at all. These are all in line with Intel z690 motherboard pricing. As more models come out (of CPUs too), your bundle pricing will come down. The B series motherboards will also be a lot cheaper. The whole industry continues raising prices, probably partly to do with the chip shortages, lockdowns, etc.

What does the consumer market need pcie5 for? You can run gpu on pcie4.0 in x8 and you will be fine. We barely started converting from 3.0 m2 to pcie 4.0 m2. By the time pcie 5.0 devices will be humanely priced we gonna have new socket and new motherboards.

@@sznikers GPUs don't benefit from PCIe5 yet, but in a year or two SSDs will. Drives like the SN850 are already saturating their PCIe4x4 bus, so further advancement in throughput will require PCIe5 (and the heat these drives put out will also more or less force you to use some sort of heat sink to keep that throughput up for longer than a few seconds). That said, PCIe4 SSDs already have plenty of throughput for just about any use today, the improvement that would be most noticable to the user is lower latencies. Optane is the standard for low latency drives, and that's still on PCIe3, so PCIe5 drives are still a dubious proposition. PCIe4 won't be obsolete just yet, Samsung in particular are putting a lot of effort into low-latency drives. So no, don't spend extra for PCIe5 today. Even if you think you might upgrade to a PCIe5 SSD in a few years it probably isn't worth it, it'll be cheaper to get a B660 board today and then a replacement B800-whatever board in the future when PCIe5 is baseline feature, than to get an X670 board today. If you're building a new computer for gaming today, your best option regardless of budget is the 5800X3D. For gaming zen 4 is only a very marginal improvement over it, but even a low-end zen 4 system is much more expensive than a 5800X3D system, the saved money can go towards a better GPU instead.

@@sznikers Personally, I'd rather not have to replace my motherboard, CPU, and RAM, so I'm buying a futureproof board for the next 5-8 years. I expect to use PCIe 5 GPUs in it during that time

Unfortunately though Nvidia RTX 4000 series are only PCI-E 4.0 :/

@@jasonroche3690 I guess AMDs RX7000 will have 5.0 , Zen4 is 5.0 and X670E is 5.0 and B650E is 5.0 as well . I would be suprised if they dont use 5.0 for the GPUs as well , its backward compatibel , you can put an 5.0 GPU in a 4.0 slot or a 3.0 Slot , even 2.0 should work , it will limit the GPU , but it should work

Yeah I bet they will too, its a shame Nvidia didn't go 5.0 also. Like you say, 8 lanes of 5.0 would be fine but 8 lanes of 4.0 might bottleneck a little in some scenerios. Still not that big a deal though.

He's an idiot, confusing everyone.

the msi godlike is not worth the money, it's a garbage board for the price/feature set

THANK YOU! He's an idiot.

The rule of thumb is closer to the CPU, for both. Any more clarification would need further explanation. As always, RTFM

@@fokjohnpainkiller just found the slot under the masive heat sink... lol

Windows has software RAID?

You can absolutely do SSD only pools with Storage Spaces. I've been doing that with SATA and SAS SSDs for years.

@@SirCrest Didn't work when I tried. I just got an error message.

He was probably not talking about windows, he's a Linux guy.

@@metamon2704 But then you shouldn't say it's better to run software RAID if you loose functionality. Ok if you say run software RAID, on Linux. Not just assume everyone is running Linux already just because YOU run Linux

The Strix version of this board has 3 PCI-E gen 5 m.2 slots.

I though the same about the PCIe slots. Fine for a pure gaming computer but i would like to add stuff to the system if i needed it like fx. a video caption card or so.

They weren’t really X16, and SLI and Crossfire are dead.

Still really stupid they removed them tho

@@Yock1980 Exactly. My network is 10GBE. I edit video.

@@louistru8652 Never mentioned SLI and Crossfire, never used it. I need to add a 10 GBE NIC. A capture card for video.

If you run dual channel it reduces the speed to 3600, run 2x32gb if you need 64gb so you can take advantage of the DDR5 Speed

@@Schaubnation wait.. you can't run all 4 memory slots and use like ddr 6000 speed?

SLI/crossfire isn’t a thing anymore.

@@TheSjuris not for sli but storage cards or capture cards or Camlink pro

@@imNotMeWhenimHungry those things aren't needed you just use software

@@voluntarism335 hey now, never give up extra options. That kinda talk is why we lost the 3.5 jack on phones "just use bluetooth" they say or the ability to throw in an SD card and why laptops are limiting ports to a single usb c.

@@imNotMeWhenimHungry That's not the same thing, the sound quality on audio jacks are vastly superior. Video recordings on a computer can be done by things like like nvidia shadowplay or whatever, why would you want to take up pcie lanes for those add in cards when your computer can just do that.

Best bet is to waterblock gpus. It will make it slimmer

@@tekcld Oh, but you can't boot off a storage space can you?

I will NEVER buy a ASRock mobo. HORRIBLE boards!!!

Every thing is okay with you after 2 mon using this mobo?

This is what I'm wondering. I have thunderbolt external raid drives. So, I'm trying to find out if these will work with it. ASRock X670E Taichi screws me by not having a 10GB network port.