Hi everyone, i know i posted this video yesterday but RU-vid did not process the video well and as i worked for this video a lot, i wanted to reupload it. I just want to ask some love for the video and if you watched the video already and you liked it, to give another time thumbs up. As i said if we get to 300 likes, i will do the same for Rafa. Thnak you all for the support
@@dzonibravo7867 He contracted mono virus in 2008 and show signs of decline in physical abilities. And since then, courts became slower and bouncier to promote long rallies. That's when Nadal become stronger on hardcourts to take games and slams from Federer. Its also when Djokovic slowly becomes dominant on hardcourts.
@@prempititantipool3075 I didn't know that stating facts is considered making excuses lol. Him contracting the virus and the slowing down of courts are all well documented. May or may not be the reason of his decline, but what's wrong with considering these facts when discussing his decline?
@@skychaos87 How was he decline when he won Us Open 2008 Wimble 2009 French open 2009 and so on. It's way more like he got beat by Djokovic and Nadal more often because they are better players after 2008.
Personally, I feel like 2018 really did disappoint. He started well, carrying his 2017 form. But after Indian Wells he was done. He’s been in the same form since then tbh
He said later that during that whole year he was suffering from pain in the arm. Which is the result of his change of racquets. That's why the results were disappointing that year.
@@feo2229 As Federer's serve was one of his biggest weapons that may explain why he didn't do so well after that. I must admit that I like watching aces by a clever and skillful player, it's when you get 7 foot tall guys producing huge serves just by virtue of their height that it gets boring.
Just to know 2008 and 2009 Murray and Djokovic was 21 years old. Murray Federer h2h 5:4 for Murray. With Djokovic 4:4 period of 2008-2009. Nadal was even from 2004 beating Federer even on hard surface and funny 2017 that is only year when Federer was dominating Nadal. And if you want to speak about changes, tennis changed all around(especially rackets) in last 30 years so stop with that excuse.
No wonder why today there are no grass court players. The majority of top 10 are either clay court players or hard court players with a solid baseline game. None nowadays has the aggression federer had in his career and tbh its because they dont need it cause the courts reward walls not hammers
Out of prime Fed schooled prime Djokovic always on fast courts and if be did not mentally choke he could have beaten Djokovic on the slower surfaces too. There is no other player that is comparable in talent.
Now at days tennis changed a lot now is more agresive and fast , young’s players can’t play like Roger because every point is longer more than 5 hits each player , old school tenis was only agresive no one can run like alcaraz sinner medeved, next gen defensive tennis is harder needs more strategy for win a point
@@JL-fh4qw I believe Djokovic is 3-1 on Wimbledon against Federer, on his favorite slam, with the whole crowd behind him.. So.... 7 Wimbledon titles tells that Djokovic is a great grass court player.
@@Shiljamannn Wimbledon is basically a slow court post 2010, and it was slowing down each year before. There are hard courts on tour that are much faster like Dubai and Cincinatti, which prime Djokovic was routinely losing to old federer in.
It's true that the slowing down of Tennis with slower courts, heavier, more bouncy balls negatively impacted Federer's game a lot but even then his game was good enough to win a lot more slams than he did from 2011-2016. He mainly lost because he lost confidence and mental weakness against Nadal and Djokovic. He choked on many important points otherwise he could've won more slams despite the slower courts.
You forgot to add that both his great rivals are 5/6 years younger than him and which is huge in any sports particularly in Tennis. Hard courts and grass courts slowing down considerably is what helping grinders and hampering attacking players like Roger. But still, with all these handicaps, Nadal, his prime rival, can't beat him in the last few years.
@@ankbas4718 I know but even with all this Federer was still good enough to win 2008 Wimbledon, 2009 AO, 2009 USO, 2014 Wimbledon, 2015 USO, 2019 Wimbledon. He lost because he couldn't keep it together in pressure situations. His physical game was good enough to win these Slams, his mentality was the weakness.
@@apathak34I don't think his mentality is weak. While going to 40-15 (Wimbledon 2019) he produced back to back aces which was not possible if you are too tight. It is just that he could not win. Also I am not talking about the past matches. Right now he figured out how to beat both Nadal and Djokovic. He showed that at Wim 2019 and ATP Nitto finals RR match. At the AO 2020 he was badly injured and after that more injuries.
@@ankbas4718 Federer figured out Nadal and he has dominated Nadal outside of clay for the last several years. In case of Djokovic, Federer has always been competitive against him in best of 3. In Grand Slams he has not beaten Djokovic since 2012. There have been many instances of Federer having match points and still losing. His mentality is just not as strong as Djokovic.
@@apathak34 I am not talking about 2012 not even 2015. Federer figured out how to beat Nadal (his worst rival) 2017 onward. And he has done the same for Djokovic 2019 onward. Its unfortunate that due to Federer's injury they have not met more than thrice in that period. Also these sayings like "Federer is weak mentally" , "Djokovic is a mental giant" are all myths and will be busted in due time. If Federer had served just one more ace that Wimbedon 2019 final day no one could have started saying such things.
They did not slow down all the courts, maybe some, but not all. In fact, AO actually got faster when it turned blue since that surface was rated “medium-fast” compared to the green rebound ace which was rated “medium” in ITF. I know plenty of Federer fans like to believe that he was invincible on fast courts but the truth is, the competition just got better.
One factor that I like, is that both, novak and Rafa, had the most matches gone to a 5 setter against Roger, show you how difficult to beat he is! Rafa 7 matches agains him and novak 4, no even the Rafa novak rivalry had that many 5 setters, only 3 between them..
Great video! If you just judge Federer on slams, then 2010- 2017 would be a failure compared to 2003-2009. However, he did win a total of 31 other tournaments from 2010 - 2017, so it was still a successful period for Roger, just not as dominant as before as Rafa and Novak were in their primes.
Federer will always be remembered only as a weak era champ; under the shadow of GOAT Djokovic and Nadal. Both of them made him their little bitch for a whole decade + 3 years
Maybe federer really is the best . It is because of modern tennis is now changing thats why he is not dominating as much as rafa or novak. Well i could also agree if novak and rafa were born on the same era as roger like they are the same age i can see roger dominating
I agree, his backhand was massively improved started in 2017, and he managed to conquer Rafael Nadal in every surface but the clay, but he couldnt beat Djokovic in a slam (since 2012). But lets be real, had Djokovic didnt have the injury he had in 2017, I dont think Roger wouldve won that 3 slams as he shouldve.
About Nadal I will say one thing, is that he had declined massively in terms of movement and defence on hard courts. This coupled with Federer's new backhand were a formula for defeat.
@@bloat1235 True, but Rafa attacked the ball better now, in the past he had great movements, but he tends to lose in early rounds of slams beside the RG, and he tends to face tiebreak in early round of slams because he got attacked and was too defensive.
Yes, and if they had never slowed down the surfaces, Federer would have won many more slam titles...against Nadal and Djokovic. Slower courts reward a human wall like Djokovic. Faster courts, a shot making genius like Federer, a magic that he has far more of than Djokovic or Nadal. The tennis powers that be leveled the playing field, even if inadvertently, for players like them and against Federer. IOW, matters like injuries, surface speeds, etc., are all hypotheticals. The fact is the surfaces were slowed considerably, and Djokovic was injured in 2017. It is what it is.
For me its always going to be Roger - he played the attacking all court game that was exciting and beautiful..he was a shot-maker.Djoc is a boring grinder,a glorified percentage player, that if i heard he was playing in a local club here i wouldnt bother going to watch.Nadal is phenomenal but i always feel exhausted watching him play..theres no doubt he hits a phenomenal ball but lacks Feds genius at net. Anyway,the passage if time will prove us all foolish and wrong - one generation ploughs over the bones of another and Alcaraz may surpass the lot. Still,how could anyone not find Djoc boring ? And his tennis is ugly.
Update: Djokovic is one of the best players ever and the GOAT of speading covid, smashing rackets, abusing ballkids, screaming to umpires, cringeworthy celebrations and arrogant behaviour.
@@piner74 Djokovic is the greatest of all time. Despite I'm a great Ferder fan, I can't deny it. After Wimbledon 2018 semi against Nadal and Wibledon 2019 final against Federer, Djokovic showed taht he's the best player.
@@adrianodelvincio640 the GOAT debate is pointless, as this question can only be answered subjectively. it's totally okay if he's the GOAT for you and other djokovic fans, for others it's either Nadal or Federer. who is the most successful player can only be answered when all 3 have retired. there, i see djokovic being on top. regarding wimbledon final 2019: djokovic was 32 and federer 38 years old at that time. let's see how djokovic performs in 4 years and if he can reach a quarter final in any of the 4 grand slams at the age of 40.
@@piner74 Stop being so rude against Djokovic. I appreciated all three of them, But I can't deny that Djokovic showed superiority against Federer and Nadal in the past 10 years. In 2014 and 2015 Wimbledon Federer was playing at an high level and he was 33-34. He was playing his most beautiful tennis, attacking from everywhere and often going to the net. Despite this he lost both against Novak.
@@piner74 - Novak already show that he can perfome just like Federer even been old. Moreover even better. Federer last time finish year as #1 at age 29, after turn 30 years he never again finish year as number one. Novak manage after turn 30 finish as number 1, twice , at age 32 and last year at 34. This year 2021 most probably also that would be 35. So , Novak already prove , all is needed you open your eyes and see it.
He was a target for both Nadal and Djokovic and they happened to be strong enough unlike younger gen to Djokovic's era. Also the close matches he lost were very painful and it gave both his rivals motivation to beat him because he was considered potential GOAT and eventually GOAT at the time.
@@kweizi5712 Exactly. Fed had to fend off young players of the caliber of Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Del po, Stan etc. Compare to that the list of young players that Nadal and Djokovic had to deal with. Once Fed is past his peak and once the courts are made slow it became difficult for him. But that's not an excuse I would like to give because he is Federer he can do anything.
First greatest pete sampras, second rod laver & third roger federer. All others were only mediocre players sailing in same boat & of these mediocre players some won due to more luck.
many federer fans says, that the nextgen are weak...but if you compare the nextgen since 2018 with hewitt,safin and roddick from 2004-2007....then you can see that the 3 years from the nextgen from 2018-2021 is stronger then the 4 years from hewitt/Safin/roddick from 2004-2007, Federer main opponents Roddick/hewitt/Safin .only their success from 2004-2007 in 4 season to compare, with djokovic main opponents Thiem/medvedev/zverev from 2018-2021 in the last 3 season. Roddick/hewitt/Safin vs Thiem/zverev/medvedev Grandslam titles= 1/1 Grandslam final= 7/7 ATP Final titles = 0 /2 ATP Final finals= 1 /4 Masters 1000 title= 4 /7 Masters 1000 finals= 8 /14 Titles = 23 /25 FINALS = 43 /43 and dont forget the six months corona break otherwise thiem,zverev, medvedev would reached more... this is a 4 years compare to 2 and half years
Great analysis.But the difference is that fed was way better in 2004-07 than djokovic is right now.Djokovic still manages to beat those players in slams even though he is not at his best,don;t forget that most of fed era players reached world no.1 very young.At the moment the next gen is weaker than federer era,and they will be unless they break djokovic or nadal in rankings,or beat them in a slam final.Djokovic does right now,what federer used to do,he is on another level from all of those players.
@@mihaicristi9617 i have a question for you...put thiem/zverev/medvedev to 1999-2003 in and cut hewitt,roddick, safin out. What do ouu think how many grandslams would thiem/medvedev /zverev win FROM 1999-2003 and how many weeks there would be the no 1?? . I think djokovic can still plays his best by grandsal special at semifinal, AND i think even when the nextGen are not in his prime, there have more succes from 2018-2021 then prime hewitt/safin/roddick from 2004-2007... I mean even old agassi won from 1999-2003 more grandslams then hewitt/roddick/safin all together from 1999-2003...I think Djokovic AO 2019 is playfully better then federer on hardcourt from 2004-2007:::26-32 i the new 22-26....
@@travisbickle5279 Well i think they will have no slams and no weeks at no.1i mean that era was really tight,sampras was red hot,aggasi too,they were great players on clay like ferrero or kuerten,guys like saffin or hewitt broke through that era and reached world no.1Djokovic is indeed great,but he is not in his,the prime basically ends after you had your worst year,you are still at a great level,but you don;t dominate like you used to.Djokovic 2019-2021 is nowere near fed level on hard court 2004-07,that form is one of the best ever.Hewitt and Safin were having 1 or 2 good years in fed era,priming really early,so the next is as weak as federer era.Unless they beat djokovic or nadal in a slam final,they are in the same league as hewitt safin or roddick.
@@mihaicristi9617 ok thats the opinion from you and the federer fans but i think the neutral trennis fan would think different then you. Safin hewitt and roddick could not reached then more then 4-5 grandslam finals in their career and this 3 player could not even reached in his prime the top 3 and top 4 in the worldranking since 2007 and 2008 even when novak and murray was ummature and not in his prime....and djokovic plays since 2018 a much better tennis then 2007 and 2008. THAT old agassi won more grandslams from 1999-2003 then hewitt safin roddick that show how good was this players....Sorry but you talk like a federer fan and not like a neutral fan....
@@mihaicristi9617"" Unless they beat djokovic or nadal in a slam final,they are in the same league as hewitt safin or roddick." Not good coment from you....GO WATCH NOW , against which weak players federer lost before his prime in the same age from 17-21 by grandslams between 1998-2002.... Sorry but i cant hear anymore this classic weak standart coments everytime....sorry even when you coment was really nice ......bye bye
