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Roger Penrose on "The Portal" (w Eric Weinstein), Ep.  

Eric Weinstein
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Sir Roger Penrose is arguably the most important living descendant of Albert Einstein’s school of geometric physics. In this episode of The Portal, we avoid the usual questions put to Roger about quantum foundations and quantum consciousness. Instead we go back to ask about the current status of his thinking on what would have been called “Unified Field Theory” before it fell out of fashion a couple of generations ago. In particular, Roger is the dean of one of the only rival schools of thought to have survived the “String Theory wars” of the 1980s-2000s. We discuss his view of this Twistor Theory and its prospects for unification. Instead of spoon feeding the audience, however, the material is presented as it might occur between colleagues in neighboring fields so that the Portal audience might glimpse something closer to scientific communication rather than made for TV performance pedagogy. We hope you enjoy our conversation with Prof. Penrose.

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@naz4154
@naz4154 4 года назад
This is unbelievable. I would have never had access to this type of intellect or conversation in my life. I cannot really afford higher education. To have two people who have gained this knowledge talk about it in front of me for relatively no cost at all to me...this is amazing. I started researching things I would have never even heard about without this video. Thank you Eric and Sir Roger
@dr.johnpaladinshow9747
@dr.johnpaladinshow9747 4 года назад
The beautiful thing about quantum mechanics is that one doesn't have to understand the math in order to grasp the basic implications of the theory. Good luck with your autodidactic efforts.
@naz4154
@naz4154 4 года назад
@@dr.johnpaladinshow9747 thank you John!
@sumtingwong8768
@sumtingwong8768 4 года назад
The "higher education"? You mean College? haha it is no way the best for becoming smart but the federal government has made you think so with you and your parents tax dollars. If you dont absolutely need a degree go into the field and work your way up and you will have more money and experience than anyone who spent the equivalent in college and then jumped right in (if they even could) you also wont have indisputable debt ....thanks baby boomers
@naz4154
@naz4154 4 года назад
@@sumtingwong8768 I've done that. I should have written "I PREVIOUSLY couldn't afford higher education". I don't need this talk to make a living, I need it to start living. These topics aren't exactly water-cooler conversations in the music scene, or sales organizations. So I normally do not have access to this. Typically these types of intellects are also uninterested in sales. However, Eric is interested in music, which was a bit of a common thread for me when he began talking about it in detail. His understanding of music, is....blurry, but still impressive for a non-musician. What he talks about regarding even-temperament and the harmonic series is correct though. Which isn't surprising, considering he's a brilliant mathematician.
@reddragon2335
@reddragon2335 4 года назад
The fact that you are here, means that you are pursuing a higher education. Keep your heart and mind in the right place, and learn on for the sake of passion and learning. You will find your flow with that path, and it will all work out!
@SeekHunt1334
@SeekHunt1334 4 года назад
Useful timestamps. Authors: 7:30 Fred Hoyle 8:15 Dennis Sciama 13:18 Graham Farmelo 14:35 E.M. Corson 16:50 Wilhelm Killing 16:50 Élie Cartan 23:05 Max Newman 32:11 Charles Darwin 34:04 M. C. Escher 46:37 Michael Atiyah 46:20 Isadore Singer 57:00 Hermann Minkowski 1:01:38 John Archibald Wheeler 1:01:38 Cécile DeWitt-Morette 1:01:38 Jim Simons 1:01:38 Roman Jackiw 1:03:47 Norman Steenrod 1:40:00 Jim Simons 1:47:00 Bernhard Riemann 1:54:40 Bruno Zumino 1:58:56 Tullio Levi-Civita Fields and sciences: 6:10 Algebraic geometry 13:39 6:39 Steady state theory 7:40 7:20 Statistical mechanics 11:35 Twistor theory 13:00 Quantum Field Theory 15:33 Concepts and articles: 11:05 Hopf fibration en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopf_fibration 11:30 Clifford parallels en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_parallel 12:35 Spinor en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinor 35:00 Holonomy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holonomy 44:01 Aharonov-Bohm effect 1:04:30 Hausdorff space 1:12:20 Bott periodicity theorem en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bott_periodicity_theorem 1:16:00 Riemann sphere 1:38:00 Robinson congruences 1:48:35 Gauge symmetry References: 3:20 The road to reality - Penrose Questions: 4:10 Where are we in understanding ourselves and our context, and more about the book. 5:25 Background and history on the General Relativistic and Quantum revolutions, and Dirac. 16:37 More about on two component Spinors 24:27 Matter, Fermions and Bosons, spin 1/2 26:00 Spin statistics theorem 27:48 Supersymmetry 40:00 Cohomology 51:30 Complex analysis 54:00 Twistors 1:05:00 How to think about spaces like Minkowski, Einstein, Poincaré were considering. Twistors. 1:17:00 3 spatial dimensions and 1 time dimension, and theories for generalization to higher dimensions. 1:30:00 String theory, geometry, some examples 1:53:00 More about the focus of physics, and string theory
@alvingutierrez1274
@alvingutierrez1274 4 года назад
Script Apprentice 2625 thank you 🙏
@apollothings4800
@apollothings4800 4 года назад
wow! Thanks, this is so helpful.
@liamsmith9713
@liamsmith9713 4 года назад
Mad respect ✌🏼
@NoOne-qo6nb
@NoOne-qo6nb 4 года назад
Thank You
@VladSaveliev
@VladSaveliev 4 года назад
I can't appreciate enough, this is such a helpful comment. I wasn't been able to take notes while listening, but you did it for every listener in a much better way.
@jmcsquared18
@jmcsquared18 4 года назад
I'm a grad student in math studying axiomatic quantum field theory and unification, and this was one of the most quality conversations I've ever had the privilege of listening to.
@sadface7457
@sadface7457 4 года назад
If you are studying qft look at the wigner formulation of schrodinger equation.
@conorosirideain5512
@conorosirideain5512 4 года назад
You mean you’re studying algebraic quantum field theory in curved spacetime? That’s really really cool! :)
@jmcsquared18
@jmcsquared18 4 года назад
@@conorosirideain5512 I'm more focused on the axiomatic formulation in flat spacetime for now. Believe it or not, there's still no rigorous mathematical treatment of quantum fields that is completely justified. I think this might be related to our problems with putting gravity and quantum mechanics on a level playing field. Curving spacetime just makes that situation worse. I'm also highly interested in interpretations of quantum mechanics and the measurement problem, which I think could also be related to the problem of why gravity and quantum mechanics clash, but that's more of an exotic physics question than a mathematical one.
@jmcsquared18
@jmcsquared18 4 года назад
@K. DV Not sure I understand your question clearly enough to answer.
@maryamoxaaji4307
@maryamoxaaji4307 4 года назад
I wish Eric would shut up more and listen Roger more !
@rbradhill
@rbradhill 4 года назад
Eric's flowery language vs Sir Roger's legendary humility. Thank you both for the pleasant chat.
@l.jamesbarlow3137
@l.jamesbarlow3137 4 года назад
Here here!!
@ConkerKing
@ConkerKing 3 года назад
Eric acts like he's a genius, Roger IS one.
@jameconradi8269
@jameconradi8269 3 года назад
Eric is a prick
@okeyokey578
@okeyokey578 3 года назад
@@ConkerKing theyre both geniuses
@kkandola9072
@kkandola9072 2 года назад
@@jameconradi8269 haha he’s a prick because he uses technical language?? How sad.
@Fishing_fun9889
@Fishing_fun9889 4 года назад
In some remote part of the world there’s a 12 year old genius who’s stumbled upon this podcast and decided that his life goal will be to work out these concepts and change the way in which we understand reality. I just hope that when he’s awarded the Nobel prize he gives a shout out to Eric and his guests for being the catalyst.
@AveryH7
@AveryH7 4 года назад
That 12 year old genius could be a she. That'd be dope.
@ratbullkan
@ratbullkan 4 года назад
@Mtpimenta Why so mad? I think it's fine. ^^
@gr00veh0lmes
@gr00veh0lmes 4 года назад
Mtpimenta have you had a stroke?
@physicsforever4793
@physicsforever4793 3 года назад
He has won the Nobel prize! Are you from future?
@FigmentHF
@FigmentHF 2 года назад
I hope someone is looking into apps and games and bed time books and VR that is aimed at making some of the less intuitive idea spaces, somehow more intuitive, so perhaps some people will be able to make conceptual leaps with less friction.
@M.-.D
@M.-.D 3 года назад
So incredible to see Professor Penrose win the Nobel Prize. One of the greatest minds.
@M.-.D
@M.-.D Год назад
@@maryjones5710 at his age, and knowing he had to win before death - I find it extraordinary. Incredible.
@ivywoodxrecords
@ivywoodxrecords Год назад
Well deserved of course
@sdal4926
@sdal4926 Год назад
As Weinstein said Penrose honoured Nobel prize. Not the other way.
@DH18591
@DH18591 10 месяцев назад
​​​@@sdal4926To be fair, it's always the case. Nobel prize winners efforts are greater than some award.
@constantavogadro7823
@constantavogadro7823 4 года назад
Eric "you start with four degrees of freedom, rulers and protractors for measuring length and angle give rise to a derivative operator that measures the rise of a run from reference levels that don't knit together, which is measured by the curvature tensor which breaks into three pieces of which you throw Weyl curvature away, readjust the proportions of the other two and you set that equal to the amount of stuff" Weinstein
@danepaulstewart8464
@danepaulstewart8464 4 года назад
idono huaim - Ha! I had a similar thought! I had recently heard him say this in another forum, and hearing it again did indeed create an identifying association in my mind.
@everton1869
@everton1869 4 года назад
I'd clearly be considered a piece of shit by Eric for not understanding all of this
@Domispitaletti
@Domispitaletti 4 года назад
That little rat always throw some "big worlds" to make money with stupid Joe Rogan followers.
@tombackhouse9121
@tombackhouse9121 4 года назад
@@everton1869 don't lose heart, it's just clever games to play with big grids of numbers. All just a conceptual way to dress up repeated multiplication and addition.
@NikoBased
@NikoBased 4 года назад
Very cool episode. I appreciate the fact that Eric doesn't insult everybody's intelligence, or interrupt the guest to attempt to explain something. He knows everybody's capable of doing their own research, and keeps the conversation moving forward in an extremely efficient manner. We're really getting twice the content with this format.
@sebacaine6974
@sebacaine6974 4 года назад
I love it, personally. This is the first episode of really anything I've watched more than once in years, besides music.
@JD..........
@JD.......... 4 года назад
Except for Brett 😆
@ivocanevo
@ivocanevo 4 года назад
I noticed actually Penrose seemed to be the one slowing down to explain things to the audience, and his self consciousness about being on a "pop program" was clear.
@l.jamesbarlow3137
@l.jamesbarlow3137 4 года назад
@@JD.......... He dumbs it down pretty good for Rogan on occasion... I mean often ;p
@Baleur
@Baleur 4 года назад
But i also love how Eric DOES challenge his guests from time to time, with hard questions and counter-arguments.
@CeBePuH
@CeBePuH 4 года назад
Finally, someone interviewed Sir Roger in a proper way. Thank you!
@bhuvaneshs.k638
@bhuvaneshs.k638 3 года назад
Indeed..... I always wanted to listen to Roger penrose discussing these topics.
@alexsie3012
@alexsie3012 8 месяцев назад
Gotta say I wasn’t expecting 1:22:30 but wasn’t at all put off. This is YT after all and the interview was a delight. 😅
@paqman777yt
@paqman777yt 4 года назад
He reminds me a lot of Buckminster Fuller. Fuller's primary interest was on working out the geometry of how the world was actually put together. "I’d learned at school that in order to make a sphere, which is what a bubble is, you employ pi, and I’d also learned that pi is an irrational number. To how many places, I wondered, did frustrated nature factor pi? And I reached the decision right at that moment that nature didn’t use pi. I said to myself, ‘I think nature has a different system, and it must be some sort of arithmetical-geometrical coördinate system, because nature has all kinds of models.’ What we experience of nature is in models, and all of nature’s models are so beautiful. It struck me that nature’s system must be a real beauty, because in chemistry we find that the associations are always in beautiful whole numbers-there are no fractions. And if nature can accomplish all those associations in beautiful whole numbers to make all her basic structures, I thought, then the system will turn out to be a coördinate system and it will be very, very simple. And I decided then, in 1917, that what I’d like to do was to find nature’s geometry.”
@jamescraig9045
@jamescraig9045 4 года назад
I've not encountered this quote. It is epic. Thank you.
@paqman777yt
@paqman777yt 4 года назад
@@jamescraig9045 Bucky is certainly one of my heroes. In fact I live in a geodesic dome.
@russellterry6005
@russellterry6005 4 года назад
@Tune In Drop Out Thanks for the quote. What is the source? Did you paraphrase? I like the insertion of "frustrated" before nature, but its not quite as I read the quote somewhere else.
@matthewbecker7389
@matthewbecker7389 4 года назад
"Well, you might be playing the wrong game." This man is an absolute treasure to society.
@Adam-7_7_7
@Adam-7_7_7 4 года назад
USA v Britain , Baseball v Cricket or observing a sporting event as you believe you are a 'classical quantum state' , the beauty is we can't comprehend how Sir Roger's mind thinks.
@DonJivine
@DonJivine 4 года назад
Some truly incredible guests on this podcast - and what a gift for Eric to be their interlocutor, speaking frankly and asking the sorts of questions you won’t get on a late night show. This fills such a glaring need in the marketplace of ideas. Thank you Eric for putting this together and thank you Sir Roger Penrose for sharing your brilliant mind with the world! What an incredible time we live in.
@AveryH7
@AveryH7 4 года назад
That genius may be a 12 year old girl. Thatd be dope.
@JD..........
@JD.......... 4 года назад
Here here
@danepaulstewart8464
@danepaulstewart8464 4 года назад
INDEED!
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 4 года назад
i wish tv would drop all these reality shows and put stuff like this on, i went to a comprehensive school in the 60's and i tell people i got the majority of my education from monty python (!) and those open university programs they put on at 2AM. bubble gum tv is all very well, but boy is it making nations that have tv DUMB.
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
Or a transcended. That wil be even more so
@wilfred_ho
@wilfred_ho 4 года назад
This gentleman brought warmth, wit, and wisdom to one of my favourite JRE episodes to date. Thanks for bringing another long-form conversation with him into the world!
@JakeBrowatzke
@JakeBrowatzke 4 года назад
This podcast is exactly what we need. Talk about discussion that inspires learning.
@MarsLonsen
@MarsLonsen 3 года назад
Is it in the top 10s?
@emilianobattaglia2113
@emilianobattaglia2113 3 года назад
@@MarsLonsen tt
@Junglebtc
@Junglebtc 3 года назад
@@MarsLonsen Easily
@RWin-fp5jn
@RWin-fp5jn 2 года назад
Indeed. But above all it should inspire us to 'unlearn' all physics after the 70's. We need to go back to Dirac's twistor / spinor model of physics, representing the physics of winding the same tangible fieldlines that we call 'spacetime' into local twistors becoming what we call atom's. From here we get a clear picture that former 'space' material becomes the object property of 'energy' and former 'time' material becomes the object property of inertia (a.k.a.: 'inversed time'). In slightly different terms: in the subatomic world we have 'spacetime' replaced by 'energymass' where mass equals 'clocks' and energy equals 'grid' (which is why we see energy also in its spiraled grid form in the double slit experiment causing interference patterns). The (always) discrete number of windings these field lines is why we have 'quanta' in the energy and mass terms. Its not more mysterious than that! Thus duality is what Dirac and Penrose are describing via twistors/ spinors in their mathematical approximation. As for the reason we have complex numbers in the 'virtual' dual setting of energy mass continuum: This simply has to do with the dual speed notation. Anything we see moving in the spacetime setting must result in a compensating equal orthogonal movement in the energymass notation. So any object moving at extra [m/s] must also move at an extra component of [-J/kg] = [-Nm/kg = -m2/s2]. In other words i2=-1 in order to compensate. As for the entire movement formula: Replacing distance with energy and time with mass in the formula of : Space (distance)=time*speed becomes E=Mv2 or in the luciferious EM surrounding E=MC2. Its not harder than this...This is also why the term c2 appears in the Lorentz factor. So than, can we please go back to the time of Dirac and take it form there. We need to unlearn all fake physics of dark matter (does not exist) dark energy (does not exist) GW's traveling at C (they don't) string theory (unnecessary complications) etc etc. Duality of physics and twistor theory suffices as the fundamentals..
@pereraddison932
@pereraddison932 2 года назад
@@RWin-fp5jn ... and, just what is it, now, with this modern foepa swapping of then, for than, and, than, for then-? Then, is a time reference... Than, is a preference ... reference ...
@walperstyle
@walperstyle 4 года назад
I need to find the 60,000 that have watched this so far, and start a new country with them.
@TheAlibabatree
@TheAlibabatree 4 года назад
I have never loved a comment on social media so much.
@NoOne-qo6nb
@NoOne-qo6nb 4 года назад
A safe haven for rationality and logic. Free from judgment and violence
@mrloop1530
@mrloop1530 4 года назад
@@blackieblack Why?
@dwindeyer
@dwindeyer 4 года назад
I watched this and I don't think you want me in your country. My opinions are terrible.
@maplenook
@maplenook 4 года назад
Yes please I’m in
@DarthQueefious
@DarthQueefious 4 года назад
Listening to this I don't know whether I'm becoming more intelligent or less sane.
@kootdirker2448
@kootdirker2448 4 года назад
We all should become a little less sane maybe we will then smell the fragrance of all
@tbyte007
@tbyte007 4 года назад
Or both at the same time ... :)
@Guide504
@Guide504 4 года назад
If you are its both and niether simultaneously.........the term is i believe 'quantitative superconfusion'.;-)
@Kelso540
@Kelso540 3 года назад
The latter indicates the former.
@peanutgallery7753
@peanutgallery7753 3 года назад
I'm cuuuuuuming
@cactusheart9632
@cactusheart9632 4 года назад
As an electrical engineering student a few years ago, I was blown away by the idea of fields and how charge and mass interact with the electromagnetic field and gravitational field, respectively. I hope that one day you and your guest(s) can talk more in depth about the difference between the gravitational field and the other fields. More quantum field theory and what the current problem of unifying the forces are.
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
Same
@Kaboomnz
@Kaboomnz Год назад
An absolute privilege to hear these two brilliant men share their knowledge in such an open and honest way.
@saffer3010
@saffer3010 4 года назад
I'm not even embarrassed to admit that half of what was discussed went completely over my head. However, this was one of the best podcasts I've ever listened to. Eric, please keep this up. Bring on more people of Sir Roger's caliber.
@melvillecapps8339
@melvillecapps8339 4 года назад
You understood half! Congratulations. I may have understood 2% to 3%, and not really, since I doubt I could explain that small percentage to someone else.
@saffer3010
@saffer3010 4 года назад
@@melvillecapps8339 I applaud your honesty, Melville! I have to admit my 50% was merely a figure of speech. I'm probably in the low double-digits at best!
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
There aren't that many. Maybe 12 or so.
@stevoofd
@stevoofd 3 месяца назад
This is one of the most eye opening podcast episodes I’ve ever watched. In a sequence of epiphany after epiphany, large concepts are communicated in a condensed form making it easily digestable for a layman / amateur interested in physics. I feel like I finally managed to get a hold of some of the ideas and concepts I’ve seen talked about in other shows or lectures, whereas this one succeeded in translating such complex subject matter into comprehensible format. Thank you 🙏🏻
@charlottemarceau8062
@charlottemarceau8062 4 года назад
This is the best Roger Penrose interview I've seen by a wide margin (!)
@apareek96
@apareek96 4 года назад
This talk needs links to relevant materials, books, talks, and papers to be fully appreciated .
@pondopondo1497
@pondopondo1497 4 года назад
And few years in college
@cmhardin37
@cmhardin37 4 года назад
@@pondopondo1497 or just reading books at home. You don't need college to learn anything.
@andrew_hd
@andrew_hd 4 года назад
Well you could read about complex numbers or watch YT videos... As a good start. There's a good String Theory videos and lectures as well.
@danepaulstewart8464
@danepaulstewart8464 4 года назад
YES! This one talk could be a fantastic course if all the dominant structures were linked so that the listener could go off and task themselves with learning them more formally.
@KaninTuzi
@KaninTuzi 4 года назад
At least it would be cool if they, when talking about drawings, diagrams and equations, would show them on screen
@Findmylimit
@Findmylimit 3 месяца назад
The introduction is no fabrication, this is the only lecture I’ve seen so far with Roger getting excited and using his arms to extrapolate a point. Amazing
@somewheredec
@somewheredec 4 года назад
Man this is so awesome. Thank you for getting more of this man in a long form conversation in the world. We are rapidly losing people of this caliber and need to preserve as much of their minds as we can.
@colinadevivero
@colinadevivero 3 года назад
Eric: this episode was your best episode to date. Congratulations.
@Unidentifying
@Unidentifying 4 года назад
If you read this Roger, you inspired me so much with your theories of quantum mechanics and the brain. Thank you for all your work
@JustRonDon
@JustRonDon 4 года назад
I could not agree with the direction and intention of this podcast more. I absolutely love these multi-hour, technical discussions with such a diverse group of interesting people. Quickly becoming one of my favorite programs. Thanks, Eric!
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
Thanks
@ubfinn
@ubfinn 4 года назад
Love the awareness of the audience and the realization that you don’t have to repeat the expected interview questions, and that you don’t have to over simplify(we can look things up).
@chrisrecord5625
@chrisrecord5625 4 года назад
Roger's telomeres are quite long.
@cosmicmuffet1053
@cosmicmuffet1053 4 года назад
That comes from selection pressure.
@illuminatisocrates4406
@illuminatisocrates4406 4 года назад
www.amazon.com/Taming-Telomeres-Thriller-R-Shapiro/dp/1503160998
@amazingatheist4751
@amazingatheist4751 4 года назад
That is strange, I would have thought someone at his age would have telomeres shorter than average.
@maxlieberman578
@maxlieberman578 4 года назад
Bring David Deutsh!
@soos6330
@soos6330 4 года назад
​@@amazingatheist4751 I have to agree; although, I'd like to steel man Chris's premise and state that he meant that, originally Roger's telomeres were quite long. =)
@theludvigmaxis1
@theludvigmaxis1 4 года назад
Actually crazy this man is 88 and is still so sharp. I know people in their sixties not even a third as coherent.
@jeffwilliams196
@jeffwilliams196 4 года назад
I know a presidential candidate 10 years younger one tenth as coherent.
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
That's true
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
Biden?
@n8fancy
@n8fancy 4 года назад
way over my head ...still loved it
@user-zp9br7jk9k
@user-zp9br7jk9k 4 года назад
wow.. i agree... i kept looking at the view thinking, i want to understand this, but that's a great view.
@ryanflynn3861
@ryanflynn3861 3 года назад
it's a cool feeling and i will never get sick of it
@KyleBroder
@KyleBroder 4 года назад
As a Ph.D. student in complex differential geometry, this was a beautiful discussion.
@zacharygoodall282
@zacharygoodall282 3 года назад
what were the chances?
@KyleBroder
@KyleBroder 3 года назад
@@zacharygoodall282 Haha what are the chances.
@rampantknight
@rampantknight 4 года назад
This man is going to turn 89 this year!, I am probably not half as sharp at 31.
@PhilosopherRex
@PhilosopherRex 4 года назад
man, there are a lot of us in that boat!
@juancpgo
@juancpgo 4 года назад
Smart people age well. They keep their brains in good shape because they never stop using them.
@psychonautpupildiallater7734
@psychonautpupildiallater7734 4 года назад
@John M. I'll take the next shift brother!
@carlosgaspar8447
@carlosgaspar8447 4 года назад
his age really hits home when talking about being in dallas and john f. kennedy failed to show up.
@luker.6967
@luker.6967 4 года назад
@@guynxtdork Yeah, half as smart as Penrose is fine praise!
@apareek96
@apareek96 4 года назад
Arguably the most lucid and free flowing discussion on “the portal” so far. Eric is showing off his knowledge of theoretical particle physics while Penrose humbly claims a lack of deep knowledge in particle physics.
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
Eric has a lot of superficial.knowledfe
@metaphorpritam
@metaphorpritam 6 месяцев назад
@@firstal3799 Like? Expand
@Jarihopkins
@Jarihopkins 3 года назад
I love life twice as much since Eric started this show.
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
🙏
@satordorgon
@satordorgon 4 года назад
These last two episodes have been the best so far, keep inviting brilliant people who aren't afraid to go deep.
@gaulindidier5995
@gaulindidier5995 4 года назад
My favorite episode so far. Very challenging. The index theorem has been a new intellectual obsession of mine, as it gives you an opportunity to peek into the Matrix itself. Isadore Singer is probably the most underrated intellectual alive right now. Also, get aThe Road to Reality, it is one of the most important book ever written.
@Petrov3434
@Petrov3434 4 года назад
Yes and thanks to Eric to call my attention to that incredible book !!
@GamingDemiurge
@GamingDemiurge 4 года назад
As a physics this is an amazing conversation. My only complain is that Eric keep switching the conversation and not staying on point when an idea was being developed.
@gmshadowtraders
@gmshadowtraders 3 года назад
He's too much of a generalist isn't he, Eric. Can't be content trying to understand one thing perfectly, he wants to understand a thousand things just enough.
@jameconradi8269
@jameconradi8269 3 года назад
He likes to pattern interupt i.e Spotlight is on him
@alexandros6433
@alexandros6433 Год назад
As a train pusher and a landscaper I must say I agree
@nyali2
@nyali2 Год назад
@@alexandros6433 🤣🤣🤣
@mitchellhayman381
@mitchellhayman381 Год назад
Most physicists can spell that word and formulate a coherent sentence
@JamesZickmantel
@JamesZickmantel 4 года назад
I think Penrose is the clearest thinker I am aware of today. Always a pleasure to see him more 'one on one'. Let's hope you get him back on the show soon. Lots of follow up provided in this one, so extra thanks for that.
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
But his ideas of consciousness us stupid
@witsend177
@witsend177 10 месяцев назад
Eric, your ability to use analogy to explain complex points, is appreciated. A "People's genius".
@jouzai1
@jouzai1 4 года назад
I basically did not understand a word they said from beginning to end. But I certainly appreciate that a podcast like this exists.
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 4 года назад
me neither (well some) but it's nice to know that the gobblygook that penrose talks actually makes sense to at least one person, and that one person knows other people that can make sense of it all too, so i can carry on having high regard for my hero (penrose).
@jorgepeterbarton
@jorgepeterbarton 3 года назад
Something something particles are different particles because topology? Something can be altered by 360 degrees like scissors caught in string? Me neither but a little air of the associations he is making. Whats a spinner?
@programmer1840
@programmer1840 3 года назад
@@jorgepeterbarton *spinor ;D
@bcccl569
@bcccl569 2 года назад
i listened to this whilst playing tetris, can't say i understood everything but i 'got it' in a way i wouldn't have otherwise. beautiful conversation.
@clayrab
@clayrab 4 года назад
This is the most amazing podcost I've ever heard. Thank you so much Eric and Roger.
@dbz5808
@dbz5808 8 месяцев назад
The perfect mix of explaining the subjects without overly dumbing them down. Chef's kiss!
@Dylaniated
@Dylaniated 4 года назад
Thanks for not being afraid of posting this level of complexity, Eric! Onward!
@draztiqmeshaz6226
@draztiqmeshaz6226 4 года назад
2:16:55 AMEN! I, for one very much appreciate sitting in the presence of people who can verbally demonstrate the attainable gulfs between our understandings Or something like that. It's nice to be humbled now and again. Thank you both.
@Baleur
@Baleur 4 года назад
Thank you deeply for not dumbing down or simplifying or "bite-size cuts" this. This is why we're all done with mainstream television. We're sick of the 5 minute primetime dumbed down bollocks, distilled down to the lowest common denominator, never ever reaching ANY intelligent discussion or conclusion about ANYTHING being discussed.
@matthewdanielsiskin
@matthewdanielsiskin 4 года назад
You opening a conversation around geometric physics (and beyond) with a Leonard Cohen quote, is exactly why I love this Portal.
@nrojorn
@nrojorn 4 года назад
I'm just amazed we have access to these two brilliant people on youtube.
@mohammadiqbalkhan2888
@mohammadiqbalkhan2888 4 года назад
Utmost memorabilia and nostalgia! I traveled to some of Sir Rogers's lectures/ Seminars when studying at QMU 1980-1988 in UK. He is as humble and soft-spoken now as in his younger days. A real gift of intellect towards humanity! Thank you Eric for bringing this novel noble to meet so many viewers!
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
Ok
@Rhettsta
@Rhettsta 4 года назад
Roger Penrose, yeesh. Eric Weinstein isn't messing around.
@portableg451
@portableg451 4 года назад
Gosh I am so happy right now. I've been waiting patiently for you to elaborate more on Physics and the scientific community ever since your mention of the Hoff Fibration on JRE. And you rewarded my patience with over 2 hours with none other than Sir Penrose himself!? Astounding. For the record, I don't mind at all that I may not understand every sentence or topic you discuss. Just eavesdropping on such a high-level conversation with one of the great minds of our time was a real treat. Thank you so much Eric. I'm glad that you've mustered the courage to broadcast your opinions to the world, and I'm proud to be along for the ride.
@scottfoster9452
@scottfoster9452 4 года назад
Thank you Eric for interviewing Sir Roger Penrose, I just loved it. I have only a very mediocre level of education, however I love hearing discussions about high-end, cutting edge mathematics, and theoretical physics. Even with my low level of education I love to try to get some sort of understanding about their relationship and interplay. Please record more of these sorts of discussions and debates.
@UberOcelot
@UberOcelot 4 года назад
"We're gunna make you work this morning sir." "I can understand that." ... That was such a wholesome exchange!
@timpeterson175
@timpeterson175 3 года назад
Yeah!
@satnav12345
@satnav12345 4 года назад
Once you've seen The Portal, there's no turning back!
@persallnas5408
@persallnas5408 4 года назад
agree
@dr.johnpaladinshow9747
@dr.johnpaladinshow9747 4 года назад
It's nice that Eric has made a sly reference to DMT with the podcast name.
@Alistair_Spence
@Alistair_Spence 4 года назад
Outstanding. What a privilege to listen to Sir Roger. I though that Eric did a fantastic job of letting the conversation go where it needed to go, whilst gently keeping it on track at the same time. No easy task to be sure.
@gardnjw
@gardnjw 4 года назад
This is amazing. I've read a few of Sir Roger P's books but admittedly I lose the thread of his arguments from time to time. It is a great help that I can stop the video and listen to certain segments over and over until I get some sort of grasp. Thank you Eric for the great work that you're doing.
@Ocodo
@Ocodo 4 года назад
I never saw Professor Penrose this excited, must be a interesting conversation.
@davejoubert3349
@davejoubert3349 4 года назад
Great. Dragging humankind up one level each time.
@AlmightyXI
@AlmightyXI 2 года назад
Started watching this video a couple years ago. Realized 5min in I needed to understand more to get it. Bought Penrose's book. Got swept up trying to understand the book but managed to finish it. Forgot about the podcast in the meantime. 2 Years later it showed up in my feed and thank you god for the algo google. Amazing podcast. Regardless of what you think of Weinstein or his TOE this is a must watch.
@yannick2047
@yannick2047 3 года назад
That whole interview was a great pleasure. Thank you for putting content like this online!!
@roarelectra
@roarelectra 4 года назад
While on the road, The Portal has become a constant companion. Sir Roger Penrose and Eric Weinstein in conversation has been fun! Off to find some of those books...
4 года назад
I haven't seen the video yet (will watch now immediately), but I want to thank you Eric for having such a brilliant and my favorite scientist on your show.
@aprescienceofhumor7977
@aprescienceofhumor7977 4 года назад
Approximately 99.8% of this conversation flew over my head. I find it fascinating all the same and get a special delight knowing these 2 gents understand each other and the topic well enough to be engrossed and meaningfully discuss it. It's also amusing to know they are just talking around the math with anecdote and descriptive narrative. I pray a movement is started by your format, Eric, speak at the highest level of clarity you can share with your guest and it will raise the interest and overall understanding of the wider audience, maybe bit by bit but you don't 'talk down' to your listeners. Much respect received, appreciated, and reciprocated, Dr.s.
@kaseryn
@kaseryn 2 года назад
Roger's entire manner and disposition are a balm to the senses. Could happily have him talk on end on whatever he wants!
@josephfreems
@josephfreems 4 года назад
Eric the portal is amazing and I honestly just love listening to you talk I have bad anxiety and listening to the portal has really helped me with it and calmed me down but also has taught me so much thank you so much for what you do.
@ChrisA202
@ChrisA202 4 года назад
I am blown away and so grateful. Thank you Mr. Weinstein for the Portal which makes this level of discussion on the most important question there is both accessible and (with work) understandable enough for the non-super-technical. OMG - it felt magical just to listen to Sir Roger Penrose for that long in a relaxed setting. One in which he apparently felt safe enough while "boxed in" to reveal his belief that Twisters are foundational, and more. Felt more personal and warm and honestly human - ok to take risk and ok if wrong (or right!). I got a feel enough from this to keep following up on what I didn't understand. Thanks so much!
@JD-ev3po
@JD-ev3po 3 года назад
So grateful for The Portal! Eric is truly educating us with his amazing eclectic guests as well as his own genius and desire for authenticity! I even love his "intro" music and wish he would allow it go to on a little longer!
@shaggyfeng9110
@shaggyfeng9110 3 года назад
I finally finished watching this episode. What a ride! I love this uncut format. It felt real. Priceless!
@VMac-eg7fb
@VMac-eg7fb 4 года назад
Am an avg. Joe who was highly enlightened by this awesome interview, Eric you kept it on a layman's perspective that engaged me so I never missed a word, indeed a miracle, you opened up a coveted treasure, took each beautiful item out, explained it's origin, what it had been through and why it was conceived. Best I have ever experienced, new listener. Thank you.
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
Most physics isn't more difficult than a car mechanics grasp. Minus the maths
@reachTrees
@reachTrees 4 года назад
I am So thankful that there's someone like you putting out these types of podcasts. Thank you 🙏💛
@After9Gaming
@After9Gaming 4 года назад
Thank you for having these conversations. I really enjoy them. I go down many rabbit holes in search of information after each session.
@ramarajulusrinivasan7400
@ramarajulusrinivasan7400 4 года назад
Coming here after Mr Freeman Dyson left us.. glad that you got to interview Mr Penrose while he's still with us:)
@tiesergrote
@tiesergrote 4 года назад
Came here to say get Freeman Dyson on all of the good science podcasts .. just to learn he just passed away.
@1988NickF
@1988NickF 3 года назад
I saw Eric described as a "pseudointellectual" on Reddit, genuinely the funniest thing I've ever read.
@DizKord1600
@DizKord1600 3 года назад
Label, insult, dismiss. The three-step process that every social media warrior follows robotically. Can't lose an argument if you refuse to comprehensively rebut anyone who can beat you.
@DanielCoutoF
@DanielCoutoF 3 года назад
Pseudo intellectual is kind of a promotion to him, hes a bum with big words, nothing more. He thinks the entire physics comunity is dumb and is out there to get him and thats the reason he gets no recognition,soooo delusional.
@DizKord1600
@DizKord1600 3 года назад
@@DanielCoutoF What a shock... You labeled him, insulted him and dismissed him.
@michaelqiu9722
@michaelqiu9722 3 года назад
No, Eric thinks the lack of funding and the failure of string theory, etc, has made the physics community unhealthy and inhospitable to new ideas. It’s not some grand conspiracy “out to get him”.
@DanielCoutoF
@DanielCoutoF 3 года назад
@@DizKord1600 That's what he does when taling about one of the smartest groups in the world ]9 world class physicists) so I don't feel bad saying that about him.
@zacharyberndsen
@zacharyberndsen 3 года назад
my favorite interview with Penrose. Thank you, Eric
@charlesdehavilland2437
@charlesdehavilland2437 8 месяцев назад
Amazing - thank you. No doubt this interview with Roger will be watched for hundreds of years to come!
@WaylonFlinn
@WaylonFlinn 4 года назад
The most beautiful one yet. Takes me back to my days as an undergrad. I almost heard you say "Let B be an open ball..."
@markcarey67
@markcarey67 4 года назад
Sir Roger is a Complex man
@TheLivirus
@TheLivirus 4 года назад
Roger sparks real interest for the imaginary.
@yourlordandsaviouryeesusbe2998
@yourlordandsaviouryeesusbe2998 3 года назад
@@TheLivirus nice 😂
@lemonskunnk
@lemonskunnk 4 года назад
I love the intro. it perfectly encapsulates what it means to be a curious mind, always looking to be inspired. if you only listen to things you completely understand, there's nothing to learn.
@marchanson711
@marchanson711 4 года назад
What a glorious and magnificent program. Absolutely outstanding and so refreshing. This will be a historic episode. Thank you Eric.
@gangsterkami1
@gangsterkami1 4 года назад
Fantastic job here Eric. Roger Penrose is one of the finest minds alive. Thank you for not asking him the same things. Thank you for asking him more advanced, real time scientific question. This has thoroughly quenched my thirst for deep intellectual conversation.
@ivocanevo
@ivocanevo 4 года назад
This ^
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
Same
@kristiankp
@kristiankp 4 года назад
I love that you listened to us! The conversations are so much more insightful and interesting now that you're free to speak in the most true sense. No need to dumb things down we attain greater intelligence by being shown an example in long form. This is beautiful thank you Eric. Amazing show with Roger I can't wait to see whos next!
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
True
@amosluyk
@amosluyk 3 года назад
I am truly grateful to have access to content like this. Thank you Eric.
@andreicotofan3105
@andreicotofan3105 3 года назад
Great intro! To the point ! Love that format and the focus in intellectual discussion and not on ads
@sethbase6960
@sethbase6960 4 года назад
One of my favorite physicists! Open minded & brilliant
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 8 месяцев назад
Penrose is among top 10
@samdaleyhillary
@samdaleyhillary 4 года назад
Thanks Eric, loved the episode. Looking forward to the English version 😉
@imogenrex6286
@imogenrex6286 4 года назад
this is just the best use of my time right now - to listen even when I don't understand - so much respect for you guys!
@marzx13
@marzx13 4 года назад
Great work Eric. So good and uncommon to hear the both of you discussions at this level. I even think I saw some effort on Sir Penrose's side there in the first quarter. Was also unique to see someone hear your short description of the concept of your unified theory and instantly understand and agree. Thank you for making this happen and sharing openly.
@Streamwalker1000
@Streamwalker1000 4 года назад
I have been trying to get through the The Road to Reality....for 3 years....1000+ pages. This interview really helps, but i'm still amazed. I Like Eric...he has a way of getting to the core of things and look at the core differently. Great stuff.
@toddboothbee1361
@toddboothbee1361 4 года назад
That intro caveat is priceless. It's important to be patient with being lost when dealing with big topics. That's such a load off my stupidity.
@Bronco541
@Bronco541 4 года назад
Its so nice for a change to listen to an interview like this where the host actually is able to comprehemd what the guest is talking about.
@JohnAmatulli
@JohnAmatulli 4 года назад
Another beautiful conversation Eric. As someone with a moderate understanding of theoretical physics and mathematics (typical engineer) I found it very enlightening and inspiring. Thanks and please keep up the excellent work. You are definitely headed in the right direction.
@peteryeates8184
@peteryeates8184 4 года назад
Awesome. Thanks for showing your audience the respect of not 'dumbing' everything down. Keep up the great content.
@gillbeatsisback01
@gillbeatsisback01 4 года назад
OMG i urge the physics and mathematics community to start doing psychedelics, its uncanny how simillar and recurrent what they seem to talk about is how the world is seen and underestood in those moments. Im in complete and utter awe at the nature and complexity of this world, i think when spirituality,psychedelic non dualism or whatever you call it meets science, its game over,and the right trajectory is finally found.
@kingkoi6542
@kingkoi6542 4 года назад
But wait the t.v. celebrity extraordinare Neil Degrasse Tyson believes reason and faith are incompatable.
@kingkoi6542
@kingkoi6542 3 года назад
@Exec Utize lol nice try baiting me. Go back to hating yourself loser lol. And if you actually had the "ratonale" I'd point you in the direction of people like St. Thomas Aquinas, schools like Freud, and mathematicians like Sir Penrose. God bless!
@adamgm84
@adamgm84 4 года назад
My hair is standing up after not seeing this for a while; this format and Eric seem to be sparking joy intrinsically.
@coryhall8320
@coryhall8320 3 месяца назад
Thank you for this conversation
@gabrieldiaz-aylwin5453
@gabrieldiaz-aylwin5453 4 года назад
Absolutely phenomenal content Eric!
@PhilosopherRex
@PhilosopherRex 4 года назад
Wow! Thank you Eric and Roger! So much to unpack for an amateur cosmo fan-boy like myself ... will need to watch a dozen times!
@femtopia
@femtopia 10 месяцев назад
Thank you EW for putting this together. A luxury to watch.
@Petrov3434
@Petrov3434 4 года назад
Thank you - VERY MUCH !!! Roger Penrose is such a pleasure to see and listen to -- your comment on the enigma of English universities that are able to produce such treasures is so true. You largely discussed mathematics, including conformal geometry -- without even coming to his CCC (conformal cyclic cosmology) hypothesis (replacing the inflation of Big Bang). To me Penrose is absolutely amazing -- nearly 90 years young with astonishing memory for names, details... Thank you sooo very much -- my best B-day present ever.!!!
@billandpech
@billandpech 4 года назад
I got less than 10% of this, but I want to thank The Portal for giving me a sense of the geometry and other mathematical concepts used to analyze existence! Thank you for not dumbing it down! That's available elsewhere.
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