Roger Waters vs. David Gilmour: What Caused Pink Floyd's Feud? 

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It is what it is... just enjoy what the five of them created as a group. Thank you Syd, Roger, David, Richard and Nick for all the amazing music... 💕

I'm just so glad that Pink Floyd was formed in the first place. They gave us some of the best music the world has ever heard. First time I heard them, I was 13 years old. I'm now 62. I think for anyone to love their albums for that long speaks for itself. I'm on the side of the music

I think many people have forgotten Richard Wright influence, he was in large part the Pink Floyd sound.

The fact that the other band members stuck with Gilmore , despite him not being a founding member , speaks volumes, they knew what was best for them

Roger never got over the shock that the band continued on without him. He convinced himself that once he left they were done.

One thing is certain: the classic “Pink Floyd” sound we all know and love doesn’t exist without the collaborative efforts of Roger and David. It’s apparent that neither of them individually ever did anything as great as what they accomplished together back in their glory years. It’s crazy to think that they’re still feuding after all this time.

I really love Roger Waters' vocals and his writing, but David Gilmour is as close to being a guitar god as is humanly possible. I love what the two of them created together, but if I had to choose just one, it would be David Gilmour, no contest.

I have followed Pink Floyd for a lot of years! You have informed me of things that I was not aware of. Love that band! They deserve our respect!! I'm not a big Roger Waters fan, but I'm aware that he was a important part of the band. David Gilmore is my Hero! He is one of the best artists I have ever heard. Thanks, David!!!!

I'm on the side of Pink Floyd. It's about the music, not about personal vendettas. I've read most stories about the Gilmour/Waters feud and can in most part agree with both of them. This indicates that the disagreement should have been settled amicably instead of by court ruling. But lawsuits is what happens when all of a sudden there's money and so-called "rights" involved. Friendship and reason go out the window once lawyers have taken over and you're quickley on a path of no return. That's how we ended-up where we are. Illusions have been shattered, friendships broken and egos bruised. But the music remains.

My older brother would drive all of us to school and Another Brick in the Wall would be blasting on the radio. Great memories and amazing band. All of them.

Such an amazing band. It is such a shame that these two geniuses egos got in the way and could not go on to produce such unique and outstanding music. I was very lucky to of met David Gilmore. I use to be a wall and floor tiler and had the privilege of tiling his house. I was working late one day and he turned up, and we had a chat for about 5 minutes, something that will stay with me for the rest of my days.

Excellent summary of the long-term icons of rock. Thank you!

It's like watching your parents who you love both equally fight, and all you care about, is that they work it out.

Wonderful band. Part of my childhood and youth. A shame this feud didn't allow them to continue creating more sounds together.

The other day, upon some mid-life self reflection, I realized: wow, all my favorite musical acts are British rockers. The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Queen, The Police, David Bowie, Elton John, The Clash, Fleetwood Mac (what a top 10!) And now, just to make you hate me, honorable mention to: Adam Ant, Duran Duran, Phil Collins and ColdPlay. In fact, the only non-UK musical artists that I would include amongst my Top 20 favorites would be: Bob Marley, ABBA, Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson. Thanks for your great content, and letting me prattle on... subscribed!

Pink Floyd was all the members as a whole including Roger and David!

I love this band with every ounce of my being. Pink Floyd in the 70's created the best albums. From the first song, to the final song, you were taken on a journey. Floyd without Roger didn't create these exceptional albums but they made some amazing songs. Coming Back to Life might be my favorite song ever.

As an observer, i think David is as chilled as any man can be, a well-rounded and a thoroughly pleasant person. Roger on the other hand i think is complex, difficult and has his fair share of demons & baggage that goes with him into any confrontation that he gets himself into. Just my opinion. just saying...

My first memories of Floyd's music were in elementary school. My step father had a home office in the basement where my twin brother and I shared a room and he would play Dark Side and The Division Bell over and over. When I went off to college years later, I had the Pulse live recording CD and played it over and over in my dorm room. Gilmours guitar just doesn't sound like anybody else. His solos on Comfortably Numb are as good as gutair playing gets in my mind!

Both are great. David is a fantastic guitar player. Roger is a great songwriter. They did a wonderful job together. And that's all.

Not going to take sides here. Unparalleled musical talent from the whole band. I have listened so many times to there albums over the years,never gets old.

Man ,life is too short for these kind of things! Both are gifted musicians. When I played full time in the 80s,we didn't always agree with the group leader,but he once said, " No musician's talent diminishes anothers."

Sad to hear about the feud but thank you all for the music

The greatest Album of all time DSOTM was created when the 4 were 1. Enough said.

I do love the albums with Roger, but to me personally, David Gilmour was the best thing that ever happened to Pink Floyd!! His passion for music is just undeniable, his skills as a musician and writer are overwhelming!! I loved the way David took Pink Floyd to another level, a different but astonishing path and the band brought us so many amazing shows and albums.. it's undeniable that Gilmour maintained successfully the band without roger, and I thank him for that ❤️

The ego is a wild thing! in humans in general, not just these two. i'm just thankful their collaboration, no matter how challenging, lead to their music being around forever. wonderful things do not come easy.

At the end of the day they are both genius in their creativity. We are lucky to get to listen to their works.

Terrific video. In terms of who was responsible for Pink Floyd's success, I simply adhere to the KISS philosophy. Waters was the main lyricist and conceptual artist. Gilmour was a superior vocalist, one of the greatest guitarists in rock history and along with Wright, the band's melodic heart and soul. Mason was an underrated drummer and was the glue that kept the band from breaking apart in the mid to late 70's. In terms of the Gilmour/Waters feud, I could care less about their ongoing verbal spats, but I could listen to Gilmour's post-Waters Pink Floyd and solo discography all day long. Water's 4 solo albums are a mixed bag and sans a few songs that featured Jeff Beck on guitar, these 4 records are devoid of melody and Water's vocals are underwhelming. Gilmour is a fully formed musician (e.g., lead guitar, slide guitar, bass guitar, drums, saxophone) who places emphasis on melody and sweeping sonic landscapes. The record buying public seems to agree with my musical taste for A MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON and THE DIVISION BELL both sold over 10 million copies worldwide, and Gilmour's 4 solo albums sold more copies than Water's 4 solo albums.

In a word personalities for all that they still went on to be the greatest progressive sycadelic rock band in my lifetime been a fan for over fifty years 74 now and still can't get through a day without listening to their incredible music

thanks for the video

I'm just grateful for the amazing music I can still enjoy today.

Just personality-wise, it’s much easier to “side” with Dave. Also, if Pink Floyd could carry on without the genius of Syd, then Roger should have realized it could carry on without him. Having said that, I personally find post-Roger Waters Floyd to be incredibly boring. For Pink Floyd to work, it needed Roger, Dave, and Richard all working together.

I was a senior in High School when Dark Side came out. Waters may have had some good ideas, for music and lyrics, but they would have had a very small audience without the musical brilliance of Gilmour and Wright, which shown a searchlight on everything. I could never explain what a shock Money was when I heard it on the radio. Gilmour's solo(s) were like a bomb and raised the bar forever. The lyrics were relatively cute. Not sure why Waters ever bothered singing with Gilmour and Wright in the band, and I've heard him admit that at least Gilmour was a much better singer. As an aside, I think it was a great thing that Wright could finish her career/life touring with Gilmour, considering...

Just be thankful for the Music guys.

I have been a fan of Pink Floyd for over forty years. The Mind-boggling Geniuses David Gilmour and Roger Waters, the Uniquely Talented Richard Wright, and the Fantastic Musical Talent of Nick Mason, gave us all the VERY BEST ever, Psychedelic Rock music. It is Most unfortunate, that D.G. and R.W. were unable to get along with each other. 🇬🇧 Roland Singh, Canada 🇨🇦

For me it boils down to this; l became tired of Watters depressing lyrics that became more and more cynical , but never became tired of Gilmore's beautiful guitar playing. ✌️

Waters' sublime dark lyrics and entire Orwellian mindscapes leave an indelible mark on your soul. Gilmour's chill and competent vocals, together with his haunting guitar solos complete the Floyd sound and aura. Like Lennon and Macartney, hearing the music they made solo, compared to their collaborative genius, it's clear the Floyd, as with the Beatles, were greater than the sum of their parts. I take comfort though, in knowing that, if they'd stayed together, being less hungry (and stoned) as they aged, it's doubtful that they would ever have matched the beauty of those earlier albums. No-one ever does. Look at U2 or The Stones. Sometimes it's better to leave the audience wanting more.... Thanks Pink Floyd. You influenced my entire life. 🌚

How people change after all of their dreams come true and have reached legendary status is just something that cannot be quantified.... I am a musician, and I have been for decades. The discussions of the " what if's" is always a popular argument.... I personally think that the people that are hurt the most are ironically the same people that built the foundations of the fame and fortune that legendary artists stand on.... the fans. I should know, I live the life....❤

I'm on the side of creativity... because they separated I got to listen to great albums like Amused to Death, and Pros and Con of Hitchhiking from Roger and David gave me Pulse, and Division Bell. David went on to collaborate with other great artist outside of Pink Floyd to give us truly special music from Warren Zevon, Kate Bush, David Bowie to name just a few. Roger worked with Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton who added their creativity to his albums. Sometimes we need to get our emotional juices flowing (anger, spit) to create something wonderful and unexpected. Looking back for them there may bee regrets, I only se my appreciation. Thank you David and Roger!

When you bring strong politics into your lyrics, it behooves to make sure your bandmates mostly agree with your positions

I think nick Mason summed up the problem perfectly “Roger doesn’t respect David”. Roger sued them and was convinced that it wasn’t pink floyd without him. The truth is it’s the 4 of them- the collective. The music and the lyrics are equally as important for pink floyd. I get that it must be hard to see your band go on without him but it was still pink floyd without Syd and therefore it’s still pink floyd without Roger- a different pink floyd but it’s still pink floyd.

I love both of their work. They are great!!!!!!!!

Roger Waters wanted to compose all of the music in the studio, thus, relegating the other band members to being mere performers. It was a fatal mistake. To this day, when I listen to David Gilmore's playing, I revel in his musical genius.

Roger Waters is the genius but they need each other for perfect music. Both great solo but it takes two to tango

Whichever side you are on best band writing superbly done

i wish the two of them would just get over it already!!! PLEASE make a song together, the world NEEDS this right now

Waters tried to stop the others working under the name Pink Floyd, that’s the reason for the feud. As a group of four they produced legendary music that will always be relevant. As individuals none has reached those heights. Just a shame that now they are all old they can’t push all that acrimony aside, and get on……..life’s too short!!!

For me, The Dark Side of the Moon, was undoubtedly the best of all albums Pink Floyd recorded as a group. I saw The Wall performed live at Earl's Court & got totally blown away by the musical & visual brilliance ..... It was the first live concert I ever went to & , for me, laid down the criteria & standard of how concerts should be - I have not really been impressed by many since. Even though The Wall concert was crafted back in 1980, 40+ years ago, without the stage tech that is available in the present day, it was for me an event that stood out in my youth & will forever remember. Artists can be very difficult personalities to comprehend or to get along with, I've crossed paths with more than a few in my life. As for Pink Floyd it was unfortunate that differences between them couldn't be reconciled & the magic created together as a group was no more.

Grew up listening to Pink Floyd, an uncle had Dark Side of the Moon and I remember him telling me it had just been released. Up to that point music really didn't mean anything to me. I played that album to death. Same with Wish You Were Here, fell in love with both on first hearing. The music, lyrics, the weirdly secretive members and the rumours were all Pink Floyd. They just were, and I'm really happy about that.

I'm clearly on David's side ! But Richard was the most underrated member of Pink Floyd !

I prefer Gilmour's solo work to Roger's. David makes music. Roger always seems to be more focused on making a statement. When those two resonate you get Pink Floyd. Lennon and McCartney had a similar dynamic. George's solo stuff was the coolest IMO.

I personally love music, play, voice, vision and ideas of David and listen to him, and this is not always prevented at the same time that Roger is one of the greatest artists and constant and very skilled attitudes in his music in his music The immortality .. They are very wonderful

Roger Waters was otherworldly, but only when he had the magic of David Gilmour to turn his ideas into reality. Just look at the material each has produced after the split, and there’s really no argument for who’s had more success. I can’t name a single Waters song post PF, but i can certainly recall a ton of Gilmour’s.

Conflict sometimes comes from greatness

Waters said it best himself at his The Wall tour in 2012. He put up on the screen a picture, and told the audience "This is a picture of an assh*le. I know, because that was me 37 years ago."

Brilliant people clash. Be proud of all the joy you have given the world. Cheers.

From most PF albums my favourite songs were written by David, also love The Division Bell so I'll always be on his side.

I take no sides. I just look back to productions like "Pink Floyd - Live at Pompeii" which remind me how great they were together at one time. And their music lives on regardless of how they get along today.

I would like to introduce a third side (though probably leaning towards Gilmour) in Nick Mason via his autobiography, a masterpiece from 2005 in which he writes about the days of Pink Floyd and explains how the feud started, its various phases and finishes with Live 8. He saw the whole thing from his seat behind the drum kit, and thus I think you can say is entitled to comment.

Pink Floyd was one of the greatest bands of all time. was.

Some of the greatest albums ever - Meddle, Dark Side and Wish were the highlight for me. The ongoing feud is depressing and sad, but I ignore it and listen to the music.

Reading all the comments here... I've been on Roger side and I've been on David's side (the main influence on my own playing) and now, at 64, I realise that your genes, your childhood, the dynamic of the time... and about a thousand other factors MAKE who you are in later life. Many of the defences picked up in childhood are pre-verbal - so it's something you do irrationally. Roger had a strong sense of his purpose - and I think David had the backup of the others... and that's their story. But I will NEVER forget my introduction to Wish You Were Here. An indeterminable organ pad making the perfect backdrop for that guitar tone that made them world famous... Pink Floyd was for me, a life changing event. Lol, As was Chick Corea - after hearing the Romantic Warrior. MUSICmagic - undefinable.

When egos collide ,, another brick in your heart 😢

As David said. It’s hard to remain on good terms with someone when they are continually trying to fuck you up

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I was just wondering why Roger wasn't there for Silent sound of Thunder. This is why. Thanks.

Roger strikes me as the type of guy who thinks that without him the party won't go ahead. The man is an absolute genius, and I'll forever be grateful for his musical contributions, but his ego lets him down.

It’s sad, I love them both, I grew up with Pink Floyd, and will not take sides. They are all highly creative, and passionate, and that is why their music was so breathtakingly magnificent. They all contributed to that beauty, each one of them integral to the success of the band. They’ve both made successful solo careers but there was a magic that happened when they created music together. That Polly Samson could say such ugly things about Roger made me sad and angry. RW is not anti Semitic, nor any of the other things she called him. And then David agreed with her. Shame is all I can say.... one day they’ll all be dead, and this is how it ends.... but life is such that we can’t know what makes people tick. All I know is I love and respect both as humans and musicians.

Every band, every relationship, every family....goes through bittersweet times and sometimes they don't make it to the other side together, such is life. But much like a broken family sometimes they can still produce amazing miracles, like children for example or in this case ....music. And they did just that. Good looking kids I would say so good job!! Cheers.

Pink Floyd will always be my favorite band, and their music means so much to me. I don't like to think of the David, Roger, Nick, Syd, and Richard separate. Though they were feuds, their sound and brilliance were so much more than the disagreements. After all sometimes disagreements can create genius collaborations. Thanks to every member of Pink Floyd for the music.

Loved their music and still do. I never knew the politics of the band. Wow

I love them both, Waters made the mistake of marginalizing a talent like Gilmour & leaving the band, Gilmour made the mistake of letting his wife take shots publicly. It doesn't really matter we can all listen to any of their masterpieces at any time. It's very unlikely they would have produced anything of that quality after 1985 anyway.

I would, as a child, sit outside All Saint's church hall, with a thermos in the snow, listening to Floyd rehearse before they released an album. They went on to release vinyl and become house band at the UFO. Gilmour wasn't there and they were incredible. After Gilmour joined the band I saw them several times and they were incredible. I think every band I've ever known has had a feud on the burner, fueled by ego and cash.

One of the biggest disconnects that I've noticed: Roger Waters seems to believe that lyricism and thematic concepts matter above all else when it comes to crafting music. And that's fine, a lot of music fans/listeners feel that way as well. But not everyone shares that same sentiment. For some listeners (including myself), the musicality is the more powerful force (chords, melodies, harmonies, instrumentation, etc.) Waters views musicians as more or less interchangeable and because of this, I suspect he has a difficult time recognizing the unique musical contributions of his bandmates that helped make Pink Floyd a household name. He's mostly only able to recognize his own contributions of lyricism because it's his primary wheelhouse/ field of expertise (That and a bit of ego as well lol).

I just watched another new video of David saying he speaks quite often to Roger on the phone. It’s easy, they love each other and hate each other at the same time, and either one of those love/hate instances occasionally rears it’s head.

Richard and David sang amazingly well as a duo. Just listen to the song "Echoes"

I've seen Pink Floyd, with and without Roger... David and Roger solo... and, in every instance, thought the performances with David were much better. Plus, I prefer Gilmour's solo albums over Roger's and I think "Momentary Lapse" and "Division Bell" are much better than "The Final Cut". Just my two cents.

Neither Gilmour nor Waters were responsible for the success. Gilmour, Water, Wright and Mason were responsible for the success. As for the feud, i think Nick hit the nail on the head, Waters does not respect Gilmour, or anyone else for that matter. After Syd left, he tried to make it the Waters Band, and take control, that much is obvious, he then left the band. LEFT. THE. BAND. that means you dont have creative control over anything but that which you were involved in before you left. I think Polly also hit the nail on the head, he absolutely does shout too loudly about a lot of shit. he's a bit like Richie Blackmore, amazing musician, but total shitehouse of a human being.

Learn the fretboard patterns in the key of C. Mive it up and down to change the key.

In the late 60s, there was a flowing of musical creativity. We are still living in its shadow. I wish the ones who made it could have stayed together. Cream reunited, Syd with Pink Floyd once again and, oh yes, The Beatles forever.

These are two personality types that are toxic together. We are all extremely fortunate that they were able to fruitfully collaborate for as long as they did. The main reason they can't fully reconcile is because their differing personality types are motivated by different things, and they're types that finds reconciliation difficult. Waters is the personality type that is motivated by power. The upside is that people of his kind get a lot of stuff done. The downside is that others are battered and bruised along the way. Gilmour is the altruistic, do-gooder type that believes in giving more consideration to others. His decision-making is based more on principle. If one violates that principle, there will be a negative response, undertaken in a more passive-aggressive way. In addition, they're less inclined to forget such wrongs and are more apt to have lingering hurt. Waters' type is less apt to hold on to these feelings long-term, but people like him are more apt to lash out and demand respect. The more aloof Gilmour is inclined to respond with the attitude of, 'if you're going to be a jerk and not behave fairly, I'm not going to bother with you at all.' These are the least compatible personality types together, and they're equally stubborn. Wright and Mason are both personality types that are motivated by peace, and just want to get along. There are a lot of successful relationships and marriages wherein Waters' type (motivated by power) and the motivated-by-peace types complement each other well (think of the infamous tape of Paul McCartney getting on a docile George Harrison's case -- Harrison immediately concedes just to keep the peace). This is why the conflict has always been mainly between Waters and Gilmour, who also happen to be the most creative forces in the band. It's somewhat of a miracle that Pink Floyd was able to accomplish all that they did. The thing about the David Gilmour type of personality is that they will withstand humiliation for years because they always want to give fairness the benefit of the doubt, but there will at last come a point where they will finally set up firm boundaries against someone as insufferable as Roger Waters. And once they're done with such people, they're done. Consider these two divorced, without possibility of reconciliation.

Creative people are vulnerable, so it is better to judge them by their deeds and evaluate their views over time👍😀

Pink Floyd, My favorite band. Grew up listening to them back in my teen years and still do.

What they did in the studio during those special years is all that matters, and that matter is, perhaps, for the historians to decide.

One sad story behind this long-term conflict between Roger Waters and Dave Gilmour is Richard Wright‘s death of cancer. Being the most humble, sensitive and loyal member of the band, Rick was literally torn apart between what were both friends.

Who cares who said what or who did this or that, JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC OF ONE OF THE GREATEST BANDS EVER!!!!!!!

Pink Floyd is Unique. Roger’s great lyrics and David’s sound and voice of this great great Band. Richard and Nick come to complement the sound of PF with fantastic musical deployment and cadence. Hail Pink Floyd

I do indeed love the Final Cut.

Roger is behind the major masterworks of Pink Floyd. But I love even PF in the post-Waters era, as well as Roger's solo albums.

All I know is there are 243 songs that pink Floyd did and I love every single one....even the tapes that Syd did when Syd did cid.. Every time I hear comfortably numb I hit repeat .

I'm a abott pink floyd fan and listener. I am aware of the feud but it not the thing that rings in my ear everytime i listen to their music. Some of Roger's actions, prosecutions toward the band has left me perplexed and find myself rolling me eyes. When Rogers complains that he's not allowed on a pink floyd facebook page. Roger's writing in Pink Floyd was very inspiring and Gilmour's guitar playing and composing as well. I don't feel like I have to pick a side when it comes to the quarrels between two talented people that built an iconic and timeless work for 30 odd years. Each member built to each others strengths to create something magnificent. When Syd went away Roger had to start writing song or the Pink Floyd we know would cease to exist. I understood to an extend that Roger feels like he was the main guy because he had to save the band along with David when Syd left. I don't think it's fair of Roger to shit on the remaining member for trying to keep Pink Floyd going while he left the band on his own terms.

Great band! Sad things got dark between them.

I’m a bigger fan of Roger but I have to admit it’s his ego causing a lot of this. I’ve often found it weird when there’s a member of a band who demands total creative control, to me part of being a band is the collaboration. Like if you want to run the whole thing, go solo. And honestly, the band was great because it was different elements from each member coming together

Typically if you leave something, especially if it's your choice, whether it's a job or a friend, it normally means you are gone and all rights to return are off the table and purely up to whoever is remaining.

Great. Now I know. Thanks.

It's like Yin and Yang: for sure, Pink Floyd is inconceivable without any of them. Their reasons are very hard to tell and I consider being their own business. Let's thank God they could collaborate long enough. Can you imagine a world without The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, The Wall or Animals ? Love both of them, respect their work and accept their imperfections, because they are humans after all. ❤ David & ❤ Roger

I was fortunate to have attended the Animals, Wall, and Division Bell Tours, and to see Roger Waters in Concert. They are one of my favorite all time acts. Being in a Band is like a Marriage of sorts, except you are in a relationship with many others, their significant others, managers and a stress factor that would demolish most Ego's. Then to be creative and come up with even more exciting material is still the objective goal. The last Pink Floyd album Endless River was to me, the biggest disappointment ever. It was like they had to Cash Out on the name, at the expense of the Fan's. I still will always Love Pink Floyd, but as the song say's- "Welcome to the Machine." Resentment is the number one offender in life. Like the Beatles, I feel very fortunate to have lived through their time from beginning to end. Blessings to all.

Gilmour and Waters, Lennon and McCartney, Marr and Morrissey, Joey and Johnny Ramone, Sumner and Hook, even Ian Anderson and Martin Barre are no longer in speaking terms. Some of the most incredible partnerships in rock have ended in personal feuds. Geniuses tend to struggle with each other, it gets to a point in which everything explodes.

Lovers quarrel? Enjoy the music they made together. - it is, still, out of this world. And they brought it in to our joint world for us to enjoy - even 50 years later 🙏