Roland Fryer leads a seminar on the economics of crime, racial differences in police use of force, and how to police the police. Session recorded at UATX Live on the University of Austin campus in February 2024.
What I think many of them are missing when talking around minute 12, is that crime didn't change yet incarceration rates went up. Whether there were more security cameras,etc. is not the question. Crime rates didn't change. Its possible that the proportion of crimes being committed became different ( more serious crimes and less minor) or/and the sentencing guidelines became longer or more strict or both. Period.
52 yr old carpenter who secretly loves learning,. I'm listening to this on earbuds and low key got emotional at how much I was enjoying the class. Great content. Strength and love
50 yr old kitchen designer immigrant here who did not get to go to college in USA, as planned before coming . Listening to this lecture doing house chores. What a great service to put this up on You Tube.
Just know that the former Harvard president, and the admin. did everything they could to destroy Roland. Why? Because he follows truth, not narrative. A narrative they tend to like a garden to feed leftist ideology. @@OlcayAkkaya74
65 yo carpenter who has worked alongside illegals framing homes in TX. before going off to college. Roland exposes some of the means by which Uniparty elites retain power through false narratives and division. Please see the mini doc. here on youtube covering how Harvard tried to erase both him and his legacy of truth. Let's just say that his antagonist recently got exactly what she deserved.
@@brdforallseasons I'll take someone who wants to learn, talk, and invest in people than someone who doesn't know what they're doing taking the reigns and demanding compliance. This man actually rode in the black and whites, went to calls, did his study, redid his study, and encouraged more review. Noones disproved his data yet. Get your ass back in the cave (kitroom) if you're just gonna troll
@@rarefruit2320 people need to learn that it's not an "us vs them", it's not an occupation, that the communities provide the people who become police officers and the police officers work and police communities with the consent and faith of said community, and are a part of the communities they police. A majority of an officers time is spent in the community they patrol. They're in that community more than they are in their own, they are also probably there more than the people who actually live in that community.
Gosh this guy is so effortlessly good I could watch him all day. What a fantastic way to present a pretty dry and detailed look at policing. Roland is simply fantastic. Kudos to University of Austin for presenting this in the way.
There's a lot of subtle ways that police escalate an interaction with the public. That's where the violation of peoples rights come in. Police are not your friend, there is no accountability for their actions. Never bring them around your home as can harm your family and get away with it.
@@donniecilenti2631Good thing is that Roland is back at Harvard now. I work in Law Enforcement. This data matches common sense thinking. Nobody blithely discharges a gun. They know the consequences are significant. --Of course Police engage in 22% more use of low level of force against Black people because that demographic is where most crime and policing occurs. --Also, Police departments send their most of their novice police officers with the least experience to the inner city. An officer’s “beat” is based on seniority and union bidding. The veterans choose the safest neighborhoods to patrol as they age. --Roland didn’t talk about average years on the force of those cops who commit the most low level use of force. I will logically point out that cops with anywhere from 3 to 10 yrs commit the most harm to the community. --Newer cops tend to still follow the departmental rules and are optimistic; whereas, veterans with 15, 20 or more years are looking towards retirement and don’t care to rock the boat. --it is the mid career officers (5-15 yrs of service on the force) who become frustrated because they’re not close to retirement and they feel stuck. They carry the greatest risk of feeling the threat. --Police departments should focus on the mid-career group to reduce mental health challenges and reduce low level use of force.
Roland Fryer is one of my favorite intellectuals!! He’s so intellectually honest, he found the exact opposite of what he wanted to find but he still accepted it and printed it all while taking great ridicule!!
His courage is unimaginable; its like a man who painstakingly goes in search of infidelity, finds out that he's been cheating on his wife all along AND publishes a paper explaining his motivation!
He endured more than ridicule. He endured threats to his job and career, and to his and his family's safety, even needing a police escort for awhile. He was later internally "prosecuted" on some B.S. sexual harrassment charge and was nearly fired ffom Harvard. His tormentor during this period was none other than Claudine Gay. She apparently finds Fryer to have been a harasser, but is cool with people threatening students with genocide. She's gone, thankfully, but Roland is still at Harvard. The good guys won for a change.
I grew up 22 miles east of Austin. I am thrilled to see a university that truly allows free thought established in the part of the state where I still have family living - living there now for 6 generations.
I was an Econ major at UCLA and I’m now an attorney. This seminar was incredible, it reminded me of some of the best lectures I attended in undergrad-but even better! What I would give to be able to go back in time, go back to college and take a class with Roland Fryer and be able to go to his office hours. Very jealous of the students, and thank you for uploading this for the rest of us!
Wow you didnt come out of UCLA as a Marxist? If so a good sign if critical thinking because Angela Davis turned that place into an indoctrination camp.
Absolutely love this. "Chicago style university, if you're not being interrupted they don't love you." Exactly three minutes in and a lady is already asking a question! Yes. We need more of this.
Great job UATX, thank you for allowing this seminar to be uploaded for free, learned quite a bit from the session. The professor is one of the least biased individuals I’ve seen on this topic.
Brightest teacher: what’s the right number. How do you get better at catching people with drugs? Brightest student: how do you get better at hiding the drugs? 1:06:00
I love seeing the struggle of the, presumably, liberal students trying to wrap their head around the vehicle stop discussion. I never followed Roland Fry before but will def be keeping my eye out moving forward.
I studied economics in undergrad and listening to this brings so much nostalgia for those first few classes having my mind opened to the economist’s way of viewing things. Before you know it, everything’s a utility function!
Bruh... do you know nothing about Austin??? Waaayyyyyyy too late to take advantage of that "great institution" being born as a reason. UT Austin is already probably a top 10 University in the world... and that doesn't even consider the plethora of "actual" reasons why Austin real estate is already sky high...and its only gonna get worse
I can totally see Thomas Sowell in Roland. Thomas Sowell is making the exact same argument in a lot of his books that racial discrimination is a lie when it comes to loan default, or contraband search.
We have data that shows racial discrimination in loans actually more data is kept when giving someone a loan or buying a house than in policing. So I don’t think he would do something like that. Because racial discrimination is something that can be shown a lot easier in something like loans or housing compared to crime stats. My other issue is are people being truthful when this data is complied.
@@Harlem1mentalitynah, there is no racial discrimination in loans, it’s based on their credit and black people have statistically worse credit. Lol, it’s real simple
@@Harlem1mentalitydoes the fact that black people, being 13% of the pop, committing 75% of all murders and 50% of all violent crime have something to do with it?
@@Harlem1mentality Might that "discrimination" have to do with an unwillingness to repay loans, rather than merely skin color? I swear y'all never stop the victim train. No matter how many Sowells and Fryer's we have, y'all still refuse to surrender the grift.
On the crime stats being lower now than the 90's/ 2000's. Between the law raising the monetary threshold to be a felony causing crime reports to change, and the bail reform or police not even showing for anything less than emergency crime in progress, how many crimes are being misreported or not reported at all anymore?
Cops use discretion (discrimination) and won’t take reports on some crimes. To begin to understand the problem with our justice system start with the playlist I created. Notice the patterns and read some of the comments
As prior law enforcement this was excellent conversation with great perspectives. Between how we’re trained, the tools he use everyday, and taboo of mental health (in law enforcement uniquely) there’s a lot that can be talked about and improved upon.
Roland, thank you for your work, effort to bring awareness, your bravery, and therefore a contribution to society. After watching this video, I see a very strong need for a video on the distinction between Guns and Illegal guns and criminal behavior in and around the distinction of guns and... Illegal guns. Legal- Guns vs ill-legal guns= Difference, distinction. Not the same thing
I cant think of a more important topic that could both help a community and ease tensions in this country more than improving policing in this country. If I had a bags of 💰’s cash and was looking how to deploy it in a way to make a difference, the first place i would go would be to Roland. Give this man all the resources he needs to find real solutions to these issues to the extent that they exist. Prof. You are truly what i grew up thinking an academic was, and i am so very pleased to find at least one still exists.
What’s not discussed here is the understanding of human behavior assessments that really good and professional cops do to discover contraband or criminal activity. It transcends race and culture. That’s the missing piece for many officers in having higher success rates of encountering the problems we want them to address. Cops who focus on behaviors will have much more success than if they focused on just the economics presented here. That said, this is an incredibly important discussion here to understand policing.
An excellent presentation. There are so many people that want to see social policy that is just and compassionate, but also driven by measurable data. Roland Fryer explains complex and frankly difficult topics in a way that is understandable and rational.
THIS IS SOOOOO refreshing, and a much more productive way to have these conversations and discuss potential solutions to discrimination and bias concerns than the insanity that's been consuming media, politics, and DEI hypotheses. Can we please replace the latter mentioned across America with this style of education as our norm? Thank you in advance.
@@kingsleyoji649 Numerous hypothesis tested, peer-reviewed and published studies from the social sciences. You've most likely read none of these studies and have succumbed to propaganda, which is being convinced without appealing to reason.
@@maine-kw6wfy I absolutely relate to the clutter vs clean, but don't think it relates well to what's going on here. There are many things at play but in my opinion the biggest is the worshipping of degrees. The guy with a PHD in agriculture knows more about farming then the 3rd generation farmer who has worked crops for 30 years. The students can't wrap their head around the professor being deranged or actually very low IQ
As a an adjunct professor for many years i found this lecture to extremely interesting and engaging. Professor Fryer's teaching style is absolutely great. I'm not sure that the economic approach of crime is very comprehensive. I think Roland leaves a lot of the sociological influences of crime out. But he is an economist so I understand. Although, a sociological frame would be useful in understanding the ill effects of stop and frisk. Also, the notion that it's okay to stop more black women because they fit the profile is ok if you are not a black woman. Really interesting is that black officers are more biased than white officers. That is so counterintuitive
Excellent discussion. This is how educators and scientists should be. Seeking the actual answer instead of trying prove political dogma. Thank you for taking the time to produce and publish this. It blessed my morning.
This content is incredible. One thing that I think is understated here. The model he developed for the payoff of doing crime (cost benefit analysis) is likely brilliant, but it assumes doing crime as a single discrete event. When looked at would you roll a 95% heads and 5% tails you'd maybe take your chances once. However, if you roll that dice 100 times you'd expect 5 losses. Many don't understand the cumulative probability across many engagements increases towards 100%. They underweight their costs mentally. Brilliant content.
Roland is also on to something about how cops can get support and help for mental health. A friend was a cop, he didn’t stay a cop long due to the stress. He told me a little about crazy calls like a man decapitating his family. When you see that or the aftermath, How does any human regulate their emotions from that?
Ironically, the cop and the criminal-looking kid in the inner city ghetto might have very similar mental health profiles. Being a cop is a lot like being in an active war, and war is one of the most toxic things for the mind. The military knows this and treats their soldiers with this piece of information in mind (like no overly long deployments in active war zones). Police departments don't. Also, many of the ghetto kids have PTSD or at least something like it, and they've also been desensitized to violence. There is actually some research that in terms of death around an individual, life in many US ghettos is actually worse than being in an active war zone.
As a cop, I don’t want to diminish the stress the people in violent communities experience by saying my struggles are similar. I get to go home to a loving family, food security, and some reprieve from that life. I’m also getting paid for it. However, your point stands, neither should have to experience the volume of critical incidents and the subsequent trauma they bring.
Wow, this is so insightful and productive! Disparity in actions/outcomes comes with diversity and differences in ideas, and that is OK. Trying to equalize outcomes without proving bias is someone's political agenda at taking away people's agency
Roland Fryer , WARRIOR ! We need your insights and wisdom. Why arnt people throwing money at the educational system you developed with Joe Canada , that raised inner city kids grades to national competative leval .
Who is this beautiful man!? It makes my heart swell to know there are wonderful professors and young intellect with the integrity that this young man radiates. I love this man I could listen to him for hours . These kids are so fortunate to have this man help truly expand their intellect open their minds. Please more from this University.❤
Great video! One note on the editing, it would be great if when Dr. Fryer is reading off a slide if you could put the slide on the screen so we can read along and see the graphs.
The answer Roland provides to the naïve (yet interesting) question around 18:45 mins is lucid and powerful. This sort of question has been asked by the general public to economists for many years... with generally poor answers. Roland bottomed that one down fantastically.
Great discussion. I wish they would have framed it as “illegal guns” in cars. In most states and with a LICENSE to carry the police should have no problem with my legal gun(s). Guns aren’t bad. Illegal gun owners are!
There is no such thing as an illegal gun. In the US you have the 2nd amendment no? A license would imply that it would be a right, which could be taken from you.
