Sir i just want to ask if you already played or seen the 76keys juno ds? I just want to know regarding with the size of the keys, if it is the same with 61keys or the 88 keys? Thank you sir🙏
@@jedwards1211 Which one has quieter keybed? Also which one has triple sensors that needed for Pianoteq 7 real Piano, half damper pedalling and after touch?
Have been playing both in the local music store, looking for a reasonably priced, fairly light weight keyboard with good Acoustic Piano sounds, which is my main concern. Finally went with the Yamaha, and could not be happier. I will say this, in person, the acoustic piano sounds on the MX88 blow the Juno DS out of the water, not even close. In fact they are better than my Roland RD 88, which is now up for sale. I bought the Juno DS 76, and returned it pronto, it felt like a toy to me and the AC sounds were awful, even the ones downloaded from Roland couldn't touch the Yamaha. Now if synth is your main thing, then that's another discussion, I'm loving the Motif sounds on the MX88, but Roland has always been fantastic with synth sound and functions, and the Junos do not disappoint there.
Does the mx have a sampler, can you tweak the tones, roland all day everyday unless your strictly piano guy. Noway does thar mx blow roland out nope...
I bought this new mx88 Yamaha. My first keyboard. Don't no how to play it yet but I'm learning. For some reason. I love electric piano. This keyboard is a beast. I like the Roland to in fact I was going to get the Roland. I saw. Yamaha. an went with it. At some point. I will go back an get the Roland.
IMHO the DS sounds more natural, then again I'm biased cuz I own one. Like some have mentioned, they're both affordable bread and butter boards, with all the sounds you need for a gig. Can't speak for the MX but the DS has a great feeling keyboard that makes it fun to play. I played a Motif 8 for years and still own a Yamaha S80 but have never as satisfied with the piano patches as I am with the DS. This new MX sounds good, just not as natural as the Roland. I can also attest that the synth sounds on the Roland are way better than anything I had on my Motif although I agree with those of you who said Yamaha has an edge when it comes to organs. Along with the patches demonstrated in this video (nice job btw) I'm sure both have a gazillion variants of pianos, clavs, organs, and electric pianos. More than enough for weekend warriors. Not sure what kind of expansion is available for the MX but with the DS you have access to entire sound libraries through their collaboration with Axial. Bottom line: if the MX was around when I bought my DS I would have taken a serious look at it, but probably still would have ended up with the Roland.
David Price thx I appreciate you watching....i don't think the Yamaha can be expanded without an iphone/ipad.... there's a free app to give you some fm sounds. So I think you'd definitely end up with the Roland still
Hi David, I have a Korg PA 700 for the arranger functions but have always wanted a 88 key instrument and the Roland sound. I am getting the DS88 at a good price and am seriously looking at buying. I play by ear and do not gig professionally, so this is just a hobbyist gear. How has your experience with the DS been and would you recommend it
DS defo is more natural, not as clinically sounding as MX. Yamaha do this - their Motif is excellent sounding, especially older ones. Then modx which imo is less than studio sounding, and then "live quality" mx which isnt good for studio. The moral is: unless you can afford motif, go with yamahas competitors
I have the Yamaha MX88. Like any keyboard out there it has strong and weak points. The Rhodes 74 has waaayyyyy too much stereo vibrato. However, the good thing is that the effect can be dialed back. The Yamaha has some really accurate sounds for woodwinds. Killer jazz flute, and a great soprano sax..Look Out...Ronnie Laws in the room. As far a strings go, I'm not impressed with the Yamaha - especially since I have a kurzweil keyboard with amazing string and orchestra sounds. I guess it all comes down to personal preference.
I just purchased the Roland Juno DS to replace an old 90' series Yamaha CS1X synth. I have put them side by side and strings and a lot of other sounds are pretty identical. Amazing, 20 year difference, and the sounds are still pretty much the same across both product lines.
Yes! sampling does not seem to have improved much in the lower cost synths, but effects have improved, and that is why these new synths sound better (generally). As with all synths, the synth is only half the sound, the rest comes from the effects, EQ, and choice in layering. A single sound on synth without effects is pretty dry, and not very exciting unless there is a big stereo field. It seems we need computers to make better sampled sounds. Roland on the other hand has gone past sampling and into new territory with SuperNatural available on the FA and more expensive dig. pianos. i have been waiting 30 years for better samples, but they don't come. Software seems to be the only alternative to re-created acoustic instruments....I hate software.
I'm going to get one of these two in late September and I am leaning toward the Yamaha MX88. One thing I found is that many might say that the action on the MX88 is heavy compared to the DS88. I went into the system settings today at the store and changed the touch to light and it seemed to really open up the keyboard in its responsiveness. I have lots of keyboards (31 or so) and I'm looking for another 88-key for my studio. My other 88-key is the Yamaha P95 and it is used in my band so it never comes home to my studio. I have played and owned LOTS of keyboards over my career (I'm 47 and started when I was very young) and I just love the Yamaha piano sounds. They seem to get it right and frankly, they should; they've been making pianos for over 125 years. There is something about the Yamaha piano sounds that just seem to speak to me. With the above said, I also own a Korg Kross 61 and when played from an 88-key controller it is very good but the Yamaha seems to be just warmer. I also still have two Roland P-55 piano modules that have a great stereo piano sound. I have recorded albums with both Roland piano sounds and Yamaha piano sounds but the Yamaha just seems to be a bit warmer and more traditional to my ears., especially on solo pieces. I think that the Roland DS88 offers more functionality within the keyboard without having to hook up a computer. That is nice for many, including myself. You can also download sound libraries from Roland and you can add 1 library to what the DS already has inside it. If you go to their site, you can see the different libraries and two of them are dedicated to piano sounds. I am likely going to download the piano libraries to a flash drive and load them into the DS and see if they sway me from the MX88. The DS has a better interface and much larger screen and you can play WAV files just by attaching a Flash drive. I believe that the Yamaha is not as easy. The Yamaha does have the FM Essential App though which gives you 4-operator FM sounds and the sounds will play back through the MX itself instead of having to take up extra mixer inputs. That is a big plus if you want that. I will listen to both again through my KRK KNS6400 studio phones so I can get something more than a mono BX5 monitor or mono keyboard amp. This will certainly cement which one I buy. I will mainly be using whichever one I end up with for pianos because the rest of my boards will handle everything else; just like they do now. My comment may sound like an ad for either synth. I just though that maybe it might help anyone looking at either of these boards. My live setup in my band consists of the Yamaha P-95, Korg M50 and Microstation, Roland Gaia SH-01 and Roland VR-09. Lots of variation there. My studio boards range from Roland, Korg, Yamaha and Ensoniq. I will play the boards again tomorrow and can report back. I would say that both are great instruments and it is amazing what you can get for $1,000 these days. I remember when getting something of this quality was 2-3 more expensive and usually required buying multiple synths to achieve what just one does now. Be Blessed :)
Hi. Which one should i prefer. Cn uh suggest. I need to buy a synth with GHS. It should hv decent features n sound should be good. Plz suggst me under this range
Keyboards are always subjected and based on the hearer. To say one is better than the other....Most of the time is just personal preference when you are talking about similar pricing keyboards. The next thing to look at is the functionality and features of both. Usually, that is were you will see some separation.
Had many Yamaha's, Had the firsts a C5Mu, DX7 ......As time goes on the ROLAND grown on me in ways a New Jack would never understand. I'm not worried over weight after carrying a Roland 72 or was it 73 around chic? Sound for sound the Roland goes to the top, the feel of the keys, that sound that sound that sound o.m.g. Wear and tear the yammy"s control surface goes cheesy in a lot of ways I dare to mention for fear of reprisal, in today"s world . The clack, the buttons and knobs ...gotta upgrade like a cheap car. Roland's are built like Battle Ships you never have to really let them go, there's always a place. This Board JUNO -DS 88 is a dream come true for a old fogies on a budget, with champagne taste and a bottled water wallet. Keep it simple, give me some new stuff and some nice frills ROLAND, ROLAND, ROLAND.
I already put in my 2 cents worth some time ago. I havent changed my mind so far. Yamaha is clearly superior in my opinion but i do have both and love having both.
Roland Juno has a battery compartment and sounds great. Also Juno has an available battery option amp. Sold me! No after touch is a sacrifice I have to make.
The main thing that sold me on the MX88 is ease of access to sounds, and the quick ability for splits and layers. Once you get into the menu layers there are a lot of amazing things that can be done. The main thing that I don't like about the MX88 is; there are about 128 performances setting locked into the memory. I would be able to eliminate those performances and use the program locations for my own set-ups
I have been a diehard roland fanatic for most of my 45 years of playing keyboards. The bang for buck is why ive gone that route more often than not....... but if the truth is to be told yamaha is unquestionably the top dog in both sound quality and features surpassing all the other competitors! A little variety is always important to me but presently i own just 1 roland, just 1 korg, and 4 yamahas. I have seldom ventured beyond these 3 big dog manufacturers in the game. I might add that i tend to prefer roland for string sounds, korg for synth solo leads and always yamaha for both acoustic and electric piano sounds.
I actually made my mind up and I'm choosing the Roland. The MX88 is still fantastic, but the pianos sound better on the Roland, and there's more customization possible with the Roland. Of course, I still need to play the Roland; I've played the MX88 and it felt nice, but want to get my hands on the Roland before I commit.
Much appreciated PM - excellent video!!! I like 'em both - I went to Guitar Center and spent about 45 minutes with each board. I'm leaning towards the Roland.................
Roland has better feeling keyboard for me and seems easier to use and navigate.... and the synth sounds are better on ds88 but both are good for the price
I prefer the feel/response of the Roland; it's a bit lighter, whereas the Yamaha seems to require more effort to muscle through the last 30% of the key travel. (More of a squish, less of a strike/bounce.) Consequently, I found that lots of rapid runs with the Yamaha tired out my hand more quickly than with the Roland. However, in this video, I agree that the Yamaha sounds a tad "warmer." (It isn't an easy difference to hear, but I do hear it.) I wonder if multiband compression could make the Roland sound just as warm? Or is the difference more than just EQ?
The key action on the Roland felt superior to me, when hitting notes close to the inner edge of the keys the Yamaha was much more difficult and felt like I was playing very close to the fulcrum of the keys, where as the Roland felt more like an upright piano
Yamaha keys are the bendy kind, like cheap toy Casios. Only Montage gets mechanical keys. The Rolands all have professional mechanical keys and will last longer under good care.
I wanted to like the Roland more (for piano) but the Yamaha sounds fantastic. Idk which one I like better, I wish I could try them out but I don’t really have time to track them down at a music store
I'll probably go with Roland. The transition in the strings on the Roland is somewhat lacking. You clearly hear a gap in the transition in the string sounds, which really turns me off. The Yamaha has much better strings. I like the other sounds from Roland. They feel much more intimate and a lot richer. It feels as if Yamaha put a few mics in the ambient room and a few on the instruments and got some reverb into their samples. Both have really nice sounds, but I think Roland still wins.
I have the yamaha mx88 for piano, strings, lesly organ and synth comp. And i have roland juno stage 76 for synth lead, pad and hammond organ. Two spectacular keyboards. But the best in all is the korg kronos 88 that unfortunately I do not have yet!
I had a Roland Juno 6 back in the 90's and loved it I switched to an AKWAI K4 in my studio.Over the years I have used it as a trigger rather than a keyboard,using roland sound mods.now i'm going back to the Roland DS61 FOR THE SOUNDS and EDITING in the keyboard
I'm new to the game. U can play them both nicely. Can't wait until I can play like this. I always love the dx7. I just got Yamaha 88. Ur playing. I could not make my my mind up between these 2. I think I made the right choice.
Bottom line!....2 great keyboards and their affordable price is both a plus for me..Roland DS have a bit of the edge though...especially their synths & layer capabilities..
I own the MX 61, and will be getting the 88 next week. The Juno is nice, but Yamaha wins in my opinion. The Korg Kross is nice too. Honestly at $1,000 any one of these would be a good choice. I'm just a Yamaha guy lol.
The sounds in the Motif keyboards like the MX series are great across the entire range of sound banks. Pianos, guitars, brass, strings, synths, they all sound fantastic, hardly a single clunker on the entire keyboard. Love the MX, MOXF (and of course the Montage). For Roland, the FA series is excellent.
G I went from Kurzweil to Yamaha about 12 years ago and I haven't looked back. I've tried various brands like Roland and Nord but I can't make the switch. The only sounds I have issues with on any brand is guitars. I haven't found 1 yet that sounds real enough.
Hello, Si ça peut aider, voici mes expériences d'utilisation des sons de guitares électriques sur synthés Yamaha et Roland : * Solo fait avec un sons de guitare electrique sur le Roland Fantom X6 : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y-8DpDxbnIg.htmlm32s * Accords accompagnement et rythmiques sont tous fait avec sons de guitare electriques du Yamaha MOX8(~= MX) sauf le solo : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tTdJhwg8Fbc.htmlm12s ;)
Caleb Rabion interesting, my personal favourite is korg, but in terms of piano I don't think any brand beats nord. They have that special something. But hey different preferences I guess. I totally agree with you on guitars though. I don't think any keyboard would ever convince me.
After watching and listening to videos, and reading the PDF manuals for over a year now, I have decided on the Roland. Though I am currently a Yamaha P95 player/owner now and will continue to be, The MX series has one very serious flaw: EDITING MUST BE DONE IN SOFTWARE NOT ON THE INSTRUMENT. This is unacceptable, making a keyboard that depends on a 3rd party software to make it function past the simplest edits is not worthy of my money. What happens 5 years from now when I upgrade to Window 14 and the editing software does not follow? I take my keyboards seriously and wish to keep them for a lifetime, but the ones I can't edit or have terrible sound gets sold eventually, like my Casio XWP1 and Yamaha NPv80. The sounds are acceptable on both the MX and JUNO but because the Roland does not need help from software it is the only choice! Another massive flaw in Yamama's thinking is eliminating the 5PIN MIDI DIN connectors on their P115 piano, I will never buy another keyboard without the 5PIN MIDI DIN.
Ambient Sequential Synth Performer i know there are additional sounds you can only get when the mx is connected to an ipad... I don't remember if it's an editor also
They both sound great, but within the first two minutes, the Roland patch GrandPnoDS just sounded richer and more realistic than the Yamaha's CncrtGrand which sounded more synthesized. It could have been all the effects on the MX patch, which was very wet. The rest of the sounds are fantastic. But I vote for the Juno.
I don’t understand people saying the MX sounds fake, it literally sounds exactly like a Yamaha C7 grand piano - not my favorite piano by a long shot, but a real piano. Also all of the effects are fully adjustable
Generally, I liked the Roland better, especially the Roland pianos. The Yamaha pianos have that thin, bright sound that they seem to like. Guitars and bass were better on the Yamaha. But, overall, I'd choose the Roland. They both sound pretty good, though, so no really bad choice here.
Thanks for such a GREAT vid--though I'm a year behind seeing it lol! Really helps--and yet, so hard to figure out which to go for. I haven't had a board in a LONG time and am thinking to go for one of these as it fits my budget and needs. In the past I was a Roland guy and am still inclined that way, but to my ear on this video the MX seems generally to have the warmer, richer sounds I'd want. And yet going through all the comments, opinion seems so entirely split-- pretty much one for one right down the line. I can't see making the choice without trying them each out side by side for myself!
Totalmente de acuerdo. Sin embargo, creo que hay otra area donde el MX es superior: Drum Track... el Juno DS tiene apenas una docena o algo asi, y no tiene la funcion de SyncStart. El MX en cambio tiene 208 DrumTracks ademas de la funcion SyncStart.
el Juno/XPS tienen teclas mecánicas, mientras la serie MX utiliza teclas solidas que se doblan, y con suficiente uso, se quiebran, mientras las teclas de los Roland durarán mucho, mucho más uso
I'm assuming the Nice Piano on the DS is trying to emulate an upright, at least that is the closest thing from the factory that this keyboard has that sounds like an upright to my ear. The piano pack that you can download from Roland's website has an upright though and I can confirm it's amazing! I usually play with the Rock DS, I like how it has less low end and cuts through. I was torn between the DS and a couple of other keyboards in the price range but I'm so glad I got it. I love it very much.
Granted, the patches on the mx sounded more wet, the acoustic instruments sounded a little better than the DS out of the box imo. Some of piano sounds on the ds sound too harsh in the 1-3khz range for me
Is it just me, or does the default Yamaha preset got like a million yards of Reverb and Compression on? I mean it's lush. But it's an effect. I want to hear a bare piano patch to compare.
Licinius Varrus Doesn't matter to a real player because Yamaha's expressiveness is the best of all available. I also have a Kronos and various other VSTs and Yamaha wins in the 'feel' department. Just turn the effects down and deal with a little thinness, no big deal.
I have a MX88. After about of year of below average playing time, the keyboard got sloppy, the keys bouncy and noisy. I was lucky that, after I complained, Yamaha allowed a one time warranty repair even though the board was 3 months out of warranty. The tech ordered a whole new key bed action and did the replacement...looking at the old keyboard, you could see the wear. Yamaha needs to upgrade to a more reliable key bed. Mind you, I only play about 6 hours a week in my home...never gigged with the board.
I'm thinking that perhaps a good midi keyboard controller and the MX49 would give me all the same sounds and parameters and be much more dependable of a rig.
I am still between these two! Mainly because of the E. Piano & Organ sound and vibrato/rotary difference. I've played both. Which one is more user friendly (in your opinion)? By user friendly, I don't always mean easier to operate, but moreso easier to navigate through.
TJ Veal the Roland is easier. ...when I played these I had a pedal that you couldn't reverse polarity on, so you had to do it on the keyboard. it took a few seconds on the Roland but much longer on the Yamaha.
YamaNAH! lol. Jk I had a Roland Fantom Fa76 when came out and the sounds feel, build and 16 multitrack that was user friendly I just loved and just sold me on Roland. Had to sell for bad life choices and wanna get back in music so is either between the Juno61 or MX61 and I just don’t know. I’m poor thus Amazon payments only way I can get one 😢
Roland sounds better & always has but when it comes to price, that's when Yamaha wins..A good enough sound for a realistic price..But Roland definitely has more "Warmth", "Fullness", "Intricate Atmospheric & Touch Sensitive Expression"..Yamaha seems "Lighter","Surface", "A body without a Heart",,"Floaty","A Sky with not enough Earth". Best way I could explain it..If u have money for a "Nord Electro", just get 1 of those, you'll be good in the digital piano section of music forever🗿
there is an orchestral soundpack for the roland ds which is outstanding and i never heard smthg like this in this pricerange. imo e-pianos are also better on the roland. perhaps it's just a question of which samples they (roland and the community around the ds ) have choosen. they seem to fit better to my taste. another point on the downside for yamaha is, there is too much effect of a not so good sounding effectsprocessor on a lot of the sounds.
Hoje utilizo Roland, mas já toquei por muito tempo com pianos Yamaha, de fato a Yamaha tem pianos acústicos mais realistas, mas quando se trata de peso de som nos PA Roland sem dúvidas
Roland better imho. Ac. Pianos on Roland seem to be more natural. EP's are equally okay. Those organ sounds you demoed are quite bad to be honest, but Yamaha wins with the rotary simulation. Rolands rotaty sim sounds like a really fast vibrato to me. Guitars, basses - I dont know. In my ears, strings on Roland win by a fair margin. Fantasy bells/pads, I dont know. Brasses, I like Roland better and seem more natural. Both useful bread and butter sounds tho I guess. Synths - Roland sounds a bit deeper, both have their moments. Nice demo. Like it that you take your time to go through a variety of sounds. Uselful for someone considering to buy. To give even better chances of comparing these boards you should pick all the samples/sounds so that they are as much alike on both boards as possible (mostly you did a good job picking same kinds of sounds). For example - comparing a sound thats suppoused to be a "full string" orchestra to a string quartet. Also on brasses you played Yamaha an octave higher, which might work as a disadvantage for Yamaha i think :)
I actually bought DS61 after watching these videos and I want to share my opinion - maybe someone will find it helpful. Keep in mind that I have not played the Yamaha, so i cant compare (but I have owned the Motif6 and Motif ES). Imho synths and brasses are Rolands strong side. Brasses are quite nice and and there are plenty of diefferent kinds of synth sounds and many are quite good. Acoustic pianos are nice. Strings are okay, but I was still a bit disappointed with their quality. They could be more vivid. If you play long notes the sound doesnt "live" at all like you would expect a real string section sound to do. But.... If you like playing alot of organ and rhodes/wurly style sounds this might not be your keyboard! The organ sounds are horrible. Really. You can get same quality organs from the 100€ supermarket keyboard. Also the leslie simulation is indeed very unrealistic. Good news is however that you can download more sounds from axial-website. (Keys-expansion has better organs). I tried most of the sound expansion banks and generally they feel way better than the inbuilt sounds. Problem is that you can have only one bank loaded at a time and changing bank will take about 5 minutes. I think that those sound expansion banks are something you cant get for this money anywhere. High quality. So. My conclusion is that if you plan to use DS61 for playing at home, recording OR you dont need organ/ep sounds it's very nice keyboard. Especially for recording purposes I would recommend it. Download strings expansion, record, change to brass expansion, record etc..... But for live use (like I'm going to use it) I'm not 100% happy. If I could have 2-3 expansions loaded at the same time it would be great. PS. I sold Motif6 to get this keyboard. I'm not quite sure if it was worth it. Some things have gone forward in 17 years, some are still same. You can get used Motifs for 300-500€.
Not much. Leslie-effect can be tweaked to be acceptable, but not good. Samples are just bad imho. Like I said, keys-expansion has better stuff. Weird how Roland keeps putting this bad leslie simulation effect to pretty much everything they do, yet they DO know how to make a good leslie sim (I own VK-8M).
Well, replacing my old dead Roland XP10, there really wasn't a lot of other brand considerations. I have a Roland GR707, G700, GM70, and of course, a Roland KC 100. On the Yamaha side of the equation, there is one 70's era classical guitar that I will never part with. Plus I got the DS88 at an unbelievable price.
Hey my Roland XP10 just died as well, many a gig we have played 😥 I ended getting the Juno DS88 from Sweetwater. Good price. Still learning it. 🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹 Still want a YAMAHA MOXF for production.
Roland has that thuddy/artificial sound and poor feeling keyboard. I can even tell just by this video that the Roland dynamics are all wrong. Yamaha sounds way more musical because it's easier to express on and sounds great.
I own a Yamaha PSR-E463. It's my first keyboard since 1998. I think it would cost $3,000 in 1998. I wonder how it compares to high end synths of the mid 90's. This is an excellent presentation. I'm moving on to something 88 key, (I have my Baby Grand from 1977 still) and I'm trying to figure out Roland, Yamaha or Korg or Kurzweil. Plus it seems now, with pro tools, as long as I buy a good keyboard I can download the goodies. MODX8?
The psr line definitely gets stale after awhile. The keys feel cheap and the sound is great but only 90% of the way there. I have an EW-400 and it sounds a little too cold in recordings.
When looking for a workstation it came down to these two (had an mx49 prior and loved it) but ended up going with the ds88. Its an awesome keyboard but I personally find the controls to be kind of annoying. The envelope control is pretty bad (no sustain control, decay has to be manually assigned to one of the custom slots). Some of the sounds are also pretty trash (like that violin slide sound). Its a great keyboard but I dont know if I should have went with the yamaha or not. I do love the ability to add expansion packs though, although its kind of weird you can only use one at a time
MX49 is a nice companion for the Roland with its backing rhythms and drum track and what not. Better sounds and conteols on the Roland overall, though.
@@Jason75913 I honestly have been feeling the exact opposite. After having the Juno for 2 years now (and had the mx49 for probably 4 before that) I miss the mx. The sounds on the juno just sound so eh. 90 percent of them are sounds I cant imagine ever using. The yamaha just sounded so much better to me when I look back on it. I do like the feel of the keys on the Juno much more though!
@@MasterYugiMoto you would probably say the same for Yamaha's MODX and MOXF - all of these keyboards are made to appeal to as many different folks as possible Th sounds I use in my own Juno are mostly custom patches I made from scratch and a few edited factory patches. 98% of the factory sounds are of little use to me, lol A lot of us synthesizer lovers tend to replace or forgo factory presets and fashion our own patches for our own tastes and ends. Another way to look at it is: factory presets are the demos to give you a (rarely thorough) preview of what the instrument can do, and it is up to you to get what you want out of it on your own. Some synthesists straight up hate factory presets altogether. One special individual was all, "a proper synth shouldn't even have presets." The gent probably knows his patch design well enough and does a bunch of simple vintage synth sounds. But 99% of past and present synths have presets or ability to save presets.
@@Jason75913 ive tried messing with customizing my own patched but haven’t had much success. Where would you recommend starting? Ive been hoping to find a better piano sound for some classic style music
@@MasterYugiMoto depends on what you want There's all kinds of parameters that govern expressivity, brightness and warmth, hardness, and more of the sound. All of these synth keyboards are fundamentally _subtractive synthesizers_ in which they start off with whatever bright samples/waveforms and then take away from them to shape the sound (with a filter) and modulate how they behave over time (amplitude). Most of the piano patches, for example, have multiple velocity layers, meaning that depending on how hard you strike a key, you'll trigger a certain, and different, sample layer. This helps simulate a more nuanced and accurate sound. There's more to it regarding filter keytracking and other tidbits. As far as acoustics sounds, they don't get much better than whatever you have already in the keyboard. One of my custom patches is the St. Strings or so patch, it is normally designed not to sustain for as long as you want, but I changed that for my use. I also often shape the sound a bit more with the Equalizer insert effect, or "MFX" in Roland keyboards. I often like to take whatever harp preset I like best and add a subtle acoustic bass layer (within the same preset) as well as change the TVF and TVA envelope generators (or _EGs_ ) to give the sound a bit more punch. Most of my custom patches, or presets, are custom synthpads or synth plucks, basses, and leads. I play in a church as well as produce techno, ambient, and EDM music.
I had both keyboards and in 88 note Yamaha is superior in sounds and touchin the other hand the 61 version Roland has better keybed but Yamaha still wins in soundsthe mx is like a motif....no great programing but is 100 to 1 winner......i have 40 years playing and of course i am talking in this specific price range
Hey John Im between the MX88 and the DS88 , Im a recording. engineer and music producer, I want a keyboard that I can use for recording but also that gives me the feeling of an acoustic piano. which one is the best option ?
I just switched from my MX49 to a DS88 and im not sure If I should have gone with the MX88 instead. I kind of miss the string sounds from the Yamaha. The Juno has great string sounds but not very many single instruments like the Yamaha seemed to have. Anybody have any opinion on this matter? still trying to decide if i should return the juno for the mx88
I'm looking to buy an MX88 now that the price has dropped. What I need is a synth, like the old Alessis QS8 that's easily programmable with multi layers and splits in the same programme. So far as I've been able to ascertain, the MX88 seems to only be capable of 3 layers and one split per programme, unless hooked to a P.C? If anyone knows whether, or not, it's possible to programme it with more than 3 sounds and splits at a time, save the settings for easy call up in a live situation, I'd be really grateful if you could let me know, as I've been unable to find one in a store and the one time I asked for advice in a store, I was met with blank confusion! ;O) Cheers.
Screw the MX, save up for the Juno, it just blows it out of the water in person. The Juno is far more programmable and doesn't require a computer for full access.
@@davidr2528 ..lol...that sucks too...The idea is to have one instrument to lug around with without lugging around with added luggage as a computer.If i have to layer more by a computer,then might as well get a controller which is way cheaper & use Mainstage/Ableton or some other inexpensive DAW where u can layer as many sounds you want...or......just simply get the Juno DS thats basically in the same price range where u can layer as many sounds too without any computer.
I think they both sound pretty bad. But the MX88 is way better, imo, based on playing them in person. I would save my pennies and get the Roland FA or RD2000 or CP. Actually, no I wouldn't because what I actually did was get a used Korg Grandstage for $1500. Totally worth the $500 extra than you would pay for the ds or mx.
I couldn't find an RD2000 that inexpensive. I think the acoustic piano sounds on the Grandstage are better, more natural sounding. Not that that ones on the RD are bad. The RD has a ton of more effects and features and a nicer keybed, plus it's cool having drawbars. The Grandstage seems way quicker to navigate and do what you need to do. More of a no-nonsense, all the bread and butter sounds you need without having to tweak anything, which works for me. I have analog synthesizers... I can do my tweaking there. I just did NOT like my MODX piano sounds at all... I think both the RD and Grandstage have much better pianos, EPs, clavs. The RD new is like 2600, Grandstage was 2200... but getting one for 1500 just seemed like a steal to me. I think both boards are excellent depending on which features are more important to you. Nord is way out of my price range. Most of the time, I don't like Yamaha's sounds at all. Like, not bathed in reverb, they kinda suck. Plus, the only piano you are getting is a Yamaha brand. The Grandstage has a Steinway, Bosendorfer, Fazioli, etc. I thought the Roland FA has good pianos, but the Juno DS was very disappointing. Something about them sounded artificial to my ears.
Roland excels at the “synthy” sounds. Yamaha, with nearly a century of experience building real pianos builds the best sounding digital pianos. Korg, Roland, Casio, Nord... all come in Second IMHO.
