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Rolex Datejust 41 VS Grand Seiko White Birch - Rolex vs Grand Seiko: The King and The Contender 

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Grand Seiko vs Rolex may not sound as natural a rivalry as Rolex vs Omega. But since distancing itself from parent company Seiko in 2017, Grand Seiko has declared its ambitions boldly; all Swiss luxury watch brands are fair targets. For 2021, Grand Seiko launched one of its most impressive watches to date: the White Birch SLGH005.
Unlike many luxury watches, the Grand Seiko Hi-Beat "white birch" was nicknamed as such by the Grand Seiko designers who created it. Inspired by the Shirakaba birch forests that grow outside of the Shizukuishi Grand Seiko factory in Iwate prefecture, the SLGH005 employs a fearsomely complex 20-step process to recreate white birch bark on a hand-crafted watch dial. The 40mm stainless steel case reflects its Grand Seiko 9S heritage while also reflecting recent innovations in the Grand Seiko Evolution 9 series of which the Hi-Beat SLGH005 is a founding member.
Since 1945, the Rolex Datejust has been the world’s most recognizable watch. Introduced to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the Rolex brand, this celebratory watch has endured, becoming a cornerstone of the brand’s catalogue. In fact, three out of every four models in the Rolex lineup are a variant of the Rolex Datejust.
The original Rolex Datejust ref. 4467 introduced several features that would become inextricably linked with Rolex ever since. This including the Jubilee bracelet, and the now ubiquitous windowed date display, which become an industry standard in the following years and decades.
Initially only available in 18k yellow gold, the Datejust eventually came to be available in a variety of materials, including stainless steel and Rolesor two-tone models which offered a taste of gold, paired with the longevity and practical nature of stainless steel. Other additions to the model over the years have included the bubble-like Cyclops magnifier over the date window, and myriad technical improvements both to function and finish.
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@defenstrator4660
@defenstrator4660 9 месяцев назад
I know people don’t like the Cyclopes magnifier, but now that I’m fifty I need it.
@UzairW
@UzairW 9 месяцев назад
The GS Birch is so much more beautiful than the Rolex its not even funny!
@explorerjlc1743
@explorerjlc1743 9 месяцев назад
The failures from the 9sa5 isn’t funny either
@BenNS1971
@BenNS1971 9 месяцев назад
Specifically, between these 2 watches, I'd take the Grand Seiko
@clf1905
@clf1905 9 месяцев назад
Keep these vs series coming Tim. 🎉
@stu632
@stu632 9 месяцев назад
👏
@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78
@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 8 месяцев назад
Instead of a datejust, I got a Grand Seiko SBGA283. 39mm, champagne dial, spring drive, hand finished, just couldn't beat it for the price.
@dr.kevinmoore8889
@dr.kevinmoore8889 3 месяца назад
That Date Just is stunning. But the White Birch just kills it!
@kinnierlastimosa2737
@kinnierlastimosa2737 9 месяцев назад
Both are great watches, of course. But GS gets my vote. I’m a big fan of different and detailed dials so I love the White Birch and it was on my short list (with Shunbun and my ultimate purchase - the Omiwatari white dial, which also has a bracelet I enjoy). I really can’t get over the cyclops date on the Rolexes I otherwise appreciate.
@clintonshiells3095
@clintonshiells3095 9 месяцев назад
I’m with you-GS SLGH005 is way more interesting
@dovbear
@dovbear 9 месяцев назад
Truly a great review and comparison of these two watches Tim.
@airstripone2419
@airstripone2419 3 месяца назад
The GS just blows Rolex out of the water. It's stunning. Rolex isn't even in the same league as a Grand Seiko. They're not comparable.
@Salikaan
@Salikaan 9 месяцев назад
Be a win win if we could move the Rolex Bracelet over to the Grand Seiko. GS needs to start adding a micro adjustment to their bracelets though I don't believe their bracelets are as bad as folks like to say. Rolex makes a far better bracelet however. Great content as always Tim.
@rousseau327
@rousseau327 9 месяцев назад
It's really the microadjustment that makes the Rolex a standout. The oyster bracelet is more comfortable, but it's not such a night and day difference over competitors (even GS in this case). It's really just the microadjustment that GS is lacking.
@shinma989
@shinma989 9 дней назад
Thanks for this highly detailed and engaging head-to-head review. I was hooked for 18mins!
@lucianogonzalez8597
@lucianogonzalez8597 9 месяцев назад
Love the lugs and bracelet of the Rolex. The GS wins at everything else. What a lovely piece
@ListenToPowerViolence
@ListenToPowerViolence 9 месяцев назад
These comparison videos are so awesome. DJ all day.
@aminreviews2311
@aminreviews2311 9 месяцев назад
White Birch super special. Hoping to buy one at some point.
@markhellie6837
@markhellie6837 9 месяцев назад
I chose the SLGH005--and am quite happy with my choice. Keep up the vs. series they are great reviews and comparisons!
@WatchmakerErik
@WatchmakerErik 9 месяцев назад
So Rolex, the king of proportions, got the proportions wrong. Grand Seiko all day here.
@ddduaneee
@ddduaneee 9 месяцев назад
thx for the nice vid this model watches is my favorite dailey watch to wear at the moment i wear the seiko baby alpanist green dile with a 6r35 movement super watch i also would go for grand seiko its amazing they make everything in house
@williamprestleysamara5553
@williamprestleysamara5553 9 месяцев назад
love this format!
@hinaresh26
@hinaresh26 9 месяцев назад
Where can I find this model?😊
@cyan0xide
@cyan0xide 9 месяцев назад
"lets make the movement bigger to fit our big watch case!". I guess making a smaller more elegant watch shape is out of the question lol
@sdiver68
@sdiver68 9 месяцев назад
Such a well done video, thank you! Having owned several of both, and I know this is petty, but GS has to upgrade their clasp before I consider another, unless Titanium due to low weight. Or maybe soon Steel Reef will come to GS rescue on this count as promised.
@stu632
@stu632 9 месяцев назад
Love grand seiko, but I use easylink all the time and sometimes frustrated with the lack of adjustment on my GS.
@jamied931
@jamied931 9 месяцев назад
GS had the worst bracelet in any watch about 3k its the same as a Seiko Presage sharp edge
@stu632
@stu632 9 месяцев назад
I find the GS bracelet very smooth and it is comfortable but for the lack of any micro adjustment. I get that they want to have the buckle slender but it doesn't really matter about that if half the time you are feeling it is too tight or too loose. They need to do something, the micro adjustment on the Overseas is good and many microbrands have great solutions. There really isn't any excuse at this price point.@@jamied931
@rousseau327
@rousseau327 9 месяцев назад
@@jamied931That's just absolutely not true, just a highly sensationalized internet take. Anyone who has worn a GS will tell you the bracelets are good quality. Not the best, but good. The lack of microadjustment is the only thing that actually lets it down.
@phildo864
@phildo864 8 месяцев назад
@@rousseau327well said
@sebastianscholz9878
@sebastianscholz9878 8 месяцев назад
​@@rousseau327I have a minase divido bracelet this is awesome
@KG-ro8ft
@KG-ro8ft 9 месяцев назад
The best rolex can do is +/- 2 seconds per day. The high beat is not Grand Seiko's best. Their best is Spring drive at about 5 seconds PER MONTH! Or their 9F quartz at 5 seconds PER YEAR. Oh, and you can buy GS TODAY! No contest. I have several of both and love both. But as a watch conneseur, it is GS 100%. For wanting others to be jealous of you, sure...Rolex, if that's your thing. I do love the cyclops, though. Always did.
@williamrizzo1285
@williamrizzo1285 9 месяцев назад
I have the 2022 version of the DJ 41mm with the blue dial. GS wins the dial competition, hands down!👌
@JackoWillMakeLives-loveu
@JackoWillMakeLives-loveu 9 месяцев назад
Don’t worry Tim, there’s nothing superlative about the 32xx caliber either.
@explorerjlc1743
@explorerjlc1743 9 месяцев назад
When GS learns how to make their hi beat movements within +-2 like Rolex, it’s a hard pass.
@tommurphy8596
@tommurphy8596 8 месяцев назад
When Rolex gets as accurate as a spring drive, I might go back to thinking about getting one again
@michaeljordan6008
@michaeljordan6008 8 месяцев назад
I like my mechanical watches without any circuits or quartz.
@tommurphy8596
@tommurphy8596 8 месяцев назад
@@michaeljordan6008 Why? Are you anti-technology and accuracy? The Amish still plow fields with a horse. But, if we're just talking about mechanical movements, I also have a $700 Hamilton Kakhi Suba with the H-10 movement that gets +1 second a day. Rolex is overpriced and reliant on marketing. There are so many better watches out there these days. Omega has a ton of technology in them too, the Co-Axial movement with the Spirate System is newish tech. Grand Seiko has the first highbeat movement with a chronograph. So why is Rolex so special? Is it the awesome customer service? My friend's hulk was recently serviced, and less then a month later it was losing 15 minutes a day. When he sent it back again, they told him it would take 6 months to fix it and return it to him. It's like the McDonald's of customer service, not what you'd expect from a luxury brand watch. I've had much better service experiences from far lower-end watches. Let's be a little honest about Rolex .. what have they done lately. They change case size + or - one or two mm, and they change dial color. The big announcement from them this year was the see-through case back in the Daytona. Big whoop. I'm so over this brand.
@ken4747
@ken4747 6 месяцев назад
Spring drive is ingenuity that cannot be copied. Rolexes can be faked on a massive scale to a level that requires experts to verify that they are fake. No question about which has the Supreme movement tech.
@LanguagesWithAndrew
@LanguagesWithAndrew 9 месяцев назад
If it weren't for the difference in available manual microadjustment, I'd pick the GS, no question. However...
@MAKESQ
@MAKESQ 4 месяца назад
Just ordered my White Birch from Exquisite Watches in Naples Fl, got a great price! Being delivered today. There is no contest between the GS and the Rolex.
@psyphi407
@psyphi407 9 месяцев назад
Team GS!
@Aniureta
@Aniureta 12 дней назад
the final comparison was personal lol
@thegraciefighter102
@thegraciefighter102 9 месяцев назад
I want to get a GS but no lume and poor bracelets still stop me from buying
@sebastianscholz9878
@sebastianscholz9878 8 месяцев назад
Tim I have the minase divido 2.0 the polishing on the bracelet ist awesome better then these twos or what do you think. Yes the caliber of these are better.
@te86a
@te86a 9 месяцев назад
GS wins hands down
@Eric_Nielsen
@Eric_Nielsen 9 месяцев назад
I got the DJ41: smooth bezel, Oyster, blue dial, at retail, 3-day waitlist. The 21-15mm bracelet taper with EasyLink is SO much better that for me it completely disqualifies this & every other Grand Seiko.
@jackm1310
@jackm1310 Месяц назад
Datejust you are basically forced to wear bracelet, grand seiko arguably looks better on their leather straps
@ta60015i
@ta60015i 2 месяца назад
Please put them on a timegrapher to which one is more accurate
@trinajska
@trinajska 9 месяцев назад
Why is rolex even popular?
@NRKGBP1986
@NRKGBP1986 7 месяцев назад
Cuz there's more idiots in this world than smart people.
@ken4747
@ken4747 6 месяцев назад
Marketing + a stronger history in Western popular culture.
@trinajska
@trinajska 5 месяцев назад
@@ken4747 makes sense
@eijiroinouye4115
@eijiroinouye4115 5 месяцев назад
Roger Federer is awesome
@torontowatches9709
@torontowatches9709 9 месяцев назад
Should have made a comparison with a Motif Blue dial instead of plain Jane white dial
@MrCROBosanceros
@MrCROBosanceros 9 месяцев назад
For me personally, some of the Grand Seiko models are exactly what I always wished for Seiko to produce, a high-end watch with superior quality movement (7S26 or similar) and a slightly larger case with a similar look to the Seiko 5 from the 1980s (those beautiful $100 watches with a crown at 4 position). So far Grand Seiko watches are exceeding my expectations except for one thing that bothers me and seems to me, nobody else. I can't stand those pointy hands on the dials of almost every Grand Seiko model except their diver watches. Those pointy hands are a good match for dress watches, not a sport watches in my opinion. Some other brands are using similar hands but with a loom in the middle of the hands and that looks much better. I also don't care much for those birch or snow dials, give me a beautiful sunburst blue, silver, champagne, green, black, or brown dial instead anytime.
@rousseau327
@rousseau327 9 месяцев назад
Most of these "Heritage" style watches from GS aren't meant to be sports watches or dress watches. They're right down the middle, both dressy and casual, and in that case, the hands work well imo.
@anthonyglover9386
@anthonyglover9386 9 месяцев назад
GS screams "fellas I really like watches".
@tommurphy8596
@tommurphy8596 8 месяцев назад
I pick grand seiko over Rolex every time.
@andreaargelli2934
@andreaargelli2934 9 месяцев назад
Gs❤
@Theo-ul8qm
@Theo-ul8qm 5 месяцев назад
Came for the Rolex, stayed for the Grand Seiko 😅 I think both the dial and the movement on this GS are more beautiful than anything else I've seen under $10k. Just to mention one aspect that Tim didn't bring up here - as gorgeous as that Zaratsu polish is, it does also accrue scratches, and they're very visible. This puts me off buying GS pre-owned because they tend to look quite worn very quickly.
@larry.l
@larry.l 9 месяцев назад
FIrst. Whenever a new episode of versus comes out, I'm here.
@Drazorig2
@Drazorig2 9 месяцев назад
If Grand seiko can sort out their $1 bracelets, put some effort with micro adjustments and some tapering. They would be so much better
@PabloTBrave
@PabloTBrave 8 месяцев назад
Id take the GS but i .wish gs would put as much effort into braclet and clssp desisn as they do with. Dial, finishing and movements . Heck I'd be happy if they put any effort into it.
@jackm1310
@jackm1310 Месяц назад
This comparison is easy, the difficult comparison as Tim mentioned is between this slga005 and slga009 (spring drive 120hrs)
@garyboyle695
@garyboyle695 9 месяцев назад
Grand Seiko everyday.
@MCMTL
@MCMTL 3 месяца назад
I'd add the new Seiko Alpinist and Pitzmann II to the comparison.
@yoddeb
@yoddeb 9 месяцев назад
I have the 41. Very nice, but they cheapened out and are using the crown from the 36. To small.
@boomclash101
@boomclash101 2 месяца назад
Both just depends.
@Judah.Rosenthal
@Judah.Rosenthal 9 месяцев назад
“Grand Seiko dilutes its watches.” Yes! I’m an OG fan in the US from decades ago. I rarely look at modern releases. Too many, too gimmicky and that’s a real bummer.
@twozero9
@twozero9 9 месяцев назад
only watch people know what grand seiko is. nothing carries the flair, appreciation and admiration that a rolex does, no matter what price.
@ken4747
@ken4747 6 месяцев назад
I own one rolex for when I occasionally need to show pop cultured masses that I have a Rolex. Otherwise, GS has more soul in a single piece than 1000 machine crafted Rolexes.
@sherifMalaika216
@sherifMalaika216 9 месяцев назад
Mine send to japan out of the box accuracy issue 26+ secound a day. Very disappointed by GS with all there certificate...etc
@Joan9748
@Joan9748 Месяц назад
I did the same. No worries after this.
@erginyilmaztenor
@erginyilmaztenor 4 месяца назад
I went to the Rolex dealer and put myself on the list for an OP with a silver dial, but it seems impossible to get one. Can you believe it, they said at least two years. I don't believe in this thing and I think they only sell to whoever they want. I felt very inferior. It's very sad and humiliating.
@coja143
@coja143 9 месяцев назад
O čemu pričamo šta ovde porediti pa naravno Grand Seiko daleko daleko ispred u svemu pa čak i u narukvici po meni...pozzz
@danr6175
@danr6175 9 месяцев назад
The Datejust tells some about its owner. Great watch though, as all Rolex watches are. GS 9SA5 is not there yet in terms of movement robustness.
@divertiti
@divertiti 6 месяцев назад
Grand Seiko movement is better
@SimonTemplarDude
@SimonTemplarDude 9 месяцев назад
Must be a slow news day
@alksjda
@alksjda 8 месяцев назад
I’ll take the grand seiko over the dj any day.
@alexmarinica5310
@alexmarinica5310 5 месяцев назад
I don't want to sound harsh, but I think a better comparisson would have been between the DJ and the SBGA 415. it's the same comparison I made when deciding between the two. Although I love the DJ and think it's just perfect, I got the GS because it aims to be so much more. It doesn't hit homeruns across the board, but what it misses kind of become charismatic defects. Plus the fact that I can wear it whenever I want without people asking or thinking about how much I spent on the watch (which is common with Rolex), makes it a fun watch to have. The only attention you get when you wear a GS is from watch enthusiasts. Isn't that what we all want? 😅
@DavidRon
@DavidRon 9 месяцев назад
First time anybody has ever said that Rolex has more options than Grand Seiko. Hehe.
@matty_isthemotto
@matty_isthemotto 6 месяцев назад
Adding all that writing on the bottom of the gs ruins that dial imo
@PwnageJ
@PwnageJ 9 месяцев назад
you get the rolex if you only want 1 watch. you get the Grand seiko when you already have multiple watches.. including the rolex.
@torontowatches9709
@torontowatches9709 9 месяцев назад
The Datejust is easily attainable for anyone complaining of wait lists. Just here to read the comments from all the Rolex haters.
@Trevorpartington-yc6ri
@Trevorpartington-yc6ri Месяц назад
I'd pick the grand seiko every day over a rolex, better watch and your not going to get mugged for wearing it :D
@scottrivkin3307
@scottrivkin3307 7 месяцев назад
Buy a Rolex to impress your friends, buy a Grand Seiko to impress a watch enthusiast.
@Doty6String
@Doty6String 8 месяцев назад
Hate to say it, the seiko is actually a little too much.
@watchdogpodcast239
@watchdogpodcast239 9 месяцев назад
Looks are subjective. GS movements are amazing, but Rolex kills them in wearability. Case thickness and lack of micro adjust keep away after owning and selling a few
@4120306
@4120306 9 месяцев назад
I want to love the GS so much. Just can't unsee it as a usual sub $1k Seiko.
@briankenny6883
@briankenny6883 8 месяцев назад
That’s on you. How can you look at that watch or any of the wonderful GS pieces and see sub-
@4120306
@4120306 8 месяцев назад
@briankenny6883 Do you own a GS?
@briankenny6883
@briankenny6883 8 месяцев назад
@4120306 Yes. GS SLGA023 Ushio and it’s awesome. To quote Kevin O’Leary - “Grand Seiko is the best value you can get for your dollar anywhere in the world.”
@briankenny6883
@briankenny6883 8 месяцев назад
@@4120306 Yes. A GS SLGA023 Ushio. It’s awesome. It’s a very big watch, but I have an 8” wrist. No adjustments needed.
@ken4747
@ken4747 6 месяцев назад
It's astonishingly easy to tell apart a GS from a Seiko, even without the logo.
@RHelenius
@RHelenius 4 месяца назад
Rolex does not warranty the watch to run -1/+2 up to 5 years. Bogus claim
@smittysmitty481
@smittysmitty481 9 месяцев назад
I am no longer a fan of Rolex. It’s impossible to find 95% of their models new at retail price.
@willburrows8834
@willburrows8834 9 месяцев назад
It’s really not in October 2023. Daytona, Pepsi, Sub then yes, the rest of their massive catalogue you can get with a very short wait. A Datejust in any configuration aside from 41mm green dial is a month or less.
@Ariel.Fortele
@Ariel.Fortele 9 месяцев назад
Rolex , hands down
@dr.kevinmoore8889
@dr.kevinmoore8889 2 месяца назад
This is a huge mismatch. GS by a mile.
@JOHNNYSD-43
@JOHNNYSD-43 9 месяцев назад
Every man need a Rolex
@colingill47
@colingill47 9 месяцев назад
Rolex every day! GS bracelet and clasp are naff! Ye nice dial but not the kind of watch you will hand down either
@michaeljordan6008
@michaeljordan6008 8 месяцев назад
Rolex bracelet is much better than the Grand Seiko. For a daily, I want the better bracelet.
@paynemax3825
@paynemax3825 9 месяцев назад
For invesment (not really watch lovers) Rolex. For really watch lovers GS.
@jamied931
@jamied931 9 месяцев назад
Cringe
@MusicArchon
@MusicArchon 9 месяцев назад
For investment and really watch lover, a lange sohne odysseus
@Explorer40mm
@Explorer40mm 9 месяцев назад
I mustn’t be a really watch lover then.
@paynemax3825
@paynemax3825 9 месяцев назад
@@Explorer40mm 🤷🏻‍♂️
@explorerjlc1743
@explorerjlc1743 9 месяцев назад
Not really. Why would you want a shot movement in your watch ? The 9sa5 is failing big time, with Seiko levels of accuracy
@ozzy1154
@ozzy1154 9 месяцев назад
The datejust might be the most boring watch on earth. But it’s really hard for me to justify paying over $1k for a watch with “Seiko” on the dial. My choice is neither.
@dado380
@dado380 4 месяца назад
This is not fair to Rolex beacuse Grand Seiko passed Rolex years ago in the terms of design, craftsmenship and micro perfection.GS is now more comperable to JLC,GS is way more unique than the Rolex beacuse GS yearly production is way less than even Patek and Vacheron!!
@Explorer40mm
@Explorer40mm 9 месяцев назад
Rolex all day every day. Nicer case curvature, no tree bark gimick, no pretentious polish that, like a fresh haircut, fades within weeks and shows swirls and scratches just like any other watch, maybe more.
@plostyle786
@plostyle786 9 месяцев назад
Please stop doing watches we’ve seen 10 million times..
@ReignsDad71023
@ReignsDad71023 9 месяцев назад
Stevie Wonder just told me that Grand Seiko looks way better than the Rolex.
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