@@alfieakaronaldog Considering the version of the Seamaster on which it’s based didn’t come out until 1993, your comment is about as well informed as your canine friend’s daily deposit.
Out of the two, I’d choose the Submariner. However, given the Seamaster can be had on the secondary for 1/3 the price of the Sub, the Seamaster is an absolute no brainer. It’s arguably the best watch technically too. Buy the Seamaster secondhand if you’ve got grown up things to pay for like your Mortgage, Kids, Pensions & family holidays. Simple. 👍🏻 P.s I own a Seamaster 300m chronograph 9900 calibre. Essentially it’s bigger brother.
The biggest difference between the two is that unlike the Submariner you can actually buy the Seamaster and enjoy it. Without years of waiting, games or feeding the scalpers. BTW: both watches are a bit too large for your wrist :)
My favorite watch is my Sea Dweller 43mm, but I used to own that Seamaster and regret selling it. Planning to recollect that and the No Time to Die edition
Own and like both. Omega gets more wrist time. It's just a beautiful watch. Better value proposition. As much as I like my sub, I'm just annoyed by the constant rolex hype.
Beautiful video man, thank you! The Sub is absolutely awesome, no doubt. But for me, it's the Omega every day and literally twice on Sunday's. The case with its sensually sculptured lyre lugs is like an art piece, the Sub's case is like just a block of steel. Even the Bond bracelet just looks cooler than the bland Oyster. In this video, it's the vinyl record wrist shots that carry the Omega over the finish line undoubtedly. Personally, I sold all my Sub's, steel and TT, and still own 2 SMP's. That's just my choice, you do you booboo 🙂
Very well spoken and fair comparison! I've had the Seamaster for a week or so now and I do feel wrist-fatique in the afternoon so I routinely switch to a lighter watch after lunch, but still reach out to the Seamaster on the next morning, everyday. I love it!
Same, but after about a week if you wear it a lot you’ll get use to it. I thought it was too heavy now I don’t take off, and doesn’t feel bad now. went from a titanium citizen watch so big weight difference 😂.
I have both and I love them, the sub is an icon but sometimes it gets boring on the other hand the seamaster is more interesting in design, if you have the wrist size instead of the sub I would recommend the sea-dweller SD43 you would never get bored with that one
I own the Seamaster and the SD43. Sized for my wrist incredibly they weigh exactly the same. Go figure. The Seamaster wears more comfortably as it's better balanced by the hefty bracelet. Love the SMP.
I own the classic submariner and Omega Planet Ocean. I want to get green dial Seamaster so bad and it is going to be my next watch. I think you could have both watches in your collection. You are spot on, if money is no issue and you want to get single watch then buy Rolex. If you want something more exciting and playful get SMP 300. SMP 300 is definitely a bargain when compared with Submariner.
The sub is beautiful and fits amazing. The SMP is an incredible watch and a better value, but aesthetically has never spoken to me. Keep up the great work my friend 👍🏼
Excellent comparison video! I own a Green Bezel Mark2 Sub that I absolutely love because the green looks really cool and changes depending on the angle. A little different than the traditional black. However, I also own a 75th anniversary Summer Blue SMP that I love especially during the warm months. It really pops with the light blue indesees and the gradient dial. Honestly there both awesome watches in my opinion. Keep up the good work!
Have owned both. Actually won the 116610ln in a competition. The novelty of having a Rolex wore off in a matter of months. There’s actually nothing special about it. The bezel action is by far its best feature. The Seamaster (nobody refers to it by its full name. It’s always been just The Seamaster) is just better in every other way. Dial detail, date placement, coloured date wheel, bracelet, case details and proportions, even the He valve for me balances the case out against the crown and makes the watch instantly recognisable. And being British I tend to lean towards Daniel’s superior Co-Axial movement. I found the glidelock on the Sub a bit crap. Always jammed up unless the inside of the clasp was spotlessly clean. Which was almost always the case after a day of diving. The spring loaded extension on my Doxa is far better and you don’t have to take the watch off. Needless to say the Sub has gone but the Seamaster is still on my wrist nearly 24-7.
@@BrokeWatchFanatic it was an online raffle that I forgot about 😂. To be fair it all comes down to personal preference. I’m not a fan of Rolex’s marketing and their demographic anymore. It use to be explorers and pioneers but now it’s just celebrities who have no real value which has sort of turned me off the brand. So I suppose that factored in the sale of the Sub. I just like the fact that omega seems to be the choice of scientists, designers and engineers etc. it also helps me sleep easier that Rolex prices have taken a dip so I sold at the right time 😂. It was a very nice watch, but it’s no better than the Omega, which sort of set the tone the entire time I owned it. A case of “never meet your heroes”.
@@SaintWill70 yeah ok.. I can own for the most part any watch I want… and I’d choose the smp300 over a sub over and over again. Rolex is great, but it’s not the best all end all of watches lol
Between these two the sub is the winner without chance. That said i have a 2015 Seamaster 300 master co-axial on the grey-black omega nato, and i enjoy that a lot more, than i enjoyed my no date ceramic sub, before i sold it. The omega only cost 4k, has a see through case back, you can see the lovely movement, and also has a gmt hour adjust function.
Rolex has much better proportions. Their watches are thin. Their bracelets are the best in business and actually make you wanna wear the watch. Time reserve is better. Accuracy is on par (based on experience). I’d choose Rolex over Omega any day, if availability isn’t a concern.
If you want to know if a tapered bracelet would improve the SMP, just look at the Lange Odysseus, with similar tank track style bracelet, and you have your answer: resounding yes. Tapering improves comfort and elegance, since it draws the eye away from the bracelet and towards the watch case.
Both Uncle Seiko and a brand called Forstner make beautifully crafted stainless steel bracelets in many different styles that taper from 20mm at the lugs down to 16mm at the clasp. They make bracelets for most Omega watches as well as Seiko and others. Would definitely check them out!
@@kevin-ty4nm I think they could have a second bracelet option. The non taper crowd would be happy, and also have another with a taper. I get that they are doing something different, but I think the bracelet turns a lot of people away from a great watch.
@@Bornia1982 too each his own I guess...as for me I like a masculine watch on my wrist....so ill stick to the non taper...theres also just as many people that will say the non taper bracelet actually makes it an even better watch...
@@kevin-ty4nm fine, I was trying be polite and agreeing to disagree. But you can keep calling the non taper masculine, if that makes you feel more manly. It’s usually guys with girly wrists who have something to prove anyway. Cheers
Yea talks about having fun, the Omega has more variants to go with and they got quite plenty editions unlike the Submariner keeps timeless piece and more serious. As the owner of the 60th Anniversary Bond SMP i can say this.
Je pensais que celle porté dans dr NO était une 6538 mais sans le triangle rouge donc plus la bb54 qui en plus correspond au diamètre des premières sub soit 37mm
@@madprod3696hi, I had to use google translate, apologies I do not speak French, the 6538 in Dr No has the red triangle alongside as does the BB58, the BB54 keeps the triangle shape but is not red and changes depending on model, but I’m specifically talking about the BB58 for the comparison.
I own 124060. Nothing can come close to the symmetry and the unapologetic Cold War like era design of the Submariner. The overly garrish looks of the SMP and the so-so bracelet: I would never pick it over the Sub. Own it along - maybe. However... The Sapphire Speedmaster 3861.. I would pick it over a Daytona
I am a proud owner of an OMEGA Seamaster early version 1997, that blows the Rolex out in looks The Rolex in its time was a great icon watch for sure great review all the best.
@@cecaju9516 soz bro, Omega had no idea the Seamaster was being used in Golden Eye. Do some research the costume designer talks about why Omega was "Chosen". It simply made sense that Omega would subsequently formally engage with the production company. I recommend not buying into the narrative, there's a lot of fans of competing companies jealous of Omegas achievements
@@ALL-il1sw you make a lot of false assumptions about me. I have no particular brand loyalty. I own several brands, including Rolex and Omega. Nothing I wrote is incorrect. Omega pays millions in product placement fees to be the exclusive watch in Bond films. The costume designer made a choice in for one film like they have done many times before (Seiko, Pulsar, Breitling, Gruen have all been worn by Bond for similar reasons). The author of the books wore a Rolex and put the watch on his protagonist. Bond wore a Rolex in the first film and several more with no product placement fees from Rolex.
@@cecaju9516 no assumption about you, just those with brand loyalty pushing BS narrative with no research to back it up. Bond production chose Omega, I don't know how many movies it took for Omega to make a deal for advertising but from memory there was definitely more than one. Omegas marketing department is slow and bond movies used off the shelf watches for most of Brosnan's career. I'm not sure what the issue with product placement is anyway. Hans Wilsdorf practically invented it. Rolex were product placing before the term even existed. Look at Churchill's DJ in the 1940s, The explorer given to the Everest climbers or the Cosmographs given to Astronauts. Even today celebrities and intergramers are given priority at least, perhaps even free watches which are all examples of product placement. So who cares if another brand thought hey, let's pay that movie company to continue using our products, why is there a negative connotation to it.
So here is the thing I bought the Seamaster 300m Chronograph senda gold on steel for 14k preowned 3months old and a submariner no date for 14k. new. In comprison the submariner hype/marketing and false exclusivity vs SMP better complication, better material, better movement, better value. Price is equal, build quality equal.
@@danielbercovici5202’Amazing conversation starter’ 🤢 Are you living at home with your parents? Do you have a girlfriend/wife? Do you even have an SMP300? Can you give me some examples of these great conversations if you do?
It’s not really a hard choice. They are so so different. The SMP is far from a bad watch if you like it’s weird atheistic, but it’s 100% the No.1 Submariner Rebound watch. Ironically, Omegas Planet Ocean is the actual Submariner alternative (dare I say ‘killer’ 😮) 😎
@@alfieakaronaldog Its unique aesthetic makes the SMP desirable. Fortunately it's very different from the Submariner: hands, bezel, lugs, crown guards, dial ... Don't be an atheist, Alfie 😉.
Nice vid ! I wear a very old 1967 5513 Sub with original riveted bracelet on weekends, but not in the water. Simply too precious. For the water, pool, beach and holidays, it's a SuperOcean Abyss 1500m on rubber and glidelock, or then one of my lightweight full titanium sword hands neovintage SMPs (2231.50 and 2232.80).
@kevin-ty4nm 😆 Sub looks feminine? 🤣 it's about the most masculine watch you can get. Much more masculine than the Seamaster bracelet. Clearly youre compensating for something if you think yiu need to prove yoir "manhood" with a big watch 😄 The movement in the new Sub is definitely a match if bit better than in the Seamaster - longer 70 hour power reserve and more accurate (+2/-2 seconds a day - mine doesn't drop even half a second a day, it's dead on).
@@AZadeh-nd8vx you sound butthurt about your feminine watch...its ok you will get over it..I laugh everytime I see an overpriced Sub that everyone including Uncle Harry has and they think they are it...Rolex is all about marketing marketing marketing...and you fell for it...ha ha......ha the Seamaster movement is way more anti magnetic and you cant even see your movement....enjoy your feminine bracelet and your old man magnifying glass cyclops....ha ha
@@BrokeWatchFanatic Yes the blue on that edition is stunning, I agree. If you have to get one, would you choose NTTD edition or one of their blue dials?
The sea master has a much better movement and is more accurate. Also, the bracelet is far more interesting and beautiful. Plus, not only is it cheaper, but you can actually buy one every day all day. Furthermore, the omega crystal has antiglare coating on the inside and outside of the crystal. Finally, you get to see that beautiful movement with the exhibition back. The Rolex back looks like any other cheap imitation Rolex, which also leads to the final, everyone won’t be asking you if you’re omega is real.
I own a 16610 Sub (bought in 2003) and a 2013 Seamaster. It's a personal preference thing but the Seamaster gets far more wrist time. I just find it more interesting to look at. And not that it's much of an issue but the SM keeps better time than the Sub (even while it was serviced by Rolex less than a year ago). The other thing is that you have to be 'aware' when wearing a Sub, which more and more I find a pain in the ass
@@BrokeWatchFanatic You're not kidding my friend. 10 years ago I wouldn't even have given it a second thought. But now? I also own a 50's gold Rolex OP. You can imagine how little wrist time that gets these days. Is the world becoming a better place? You'd really have to wonder....
I personally prefer wearing my watch with silicon strap for everyday wear. Also, with deployant clasp. That eventually got me to like SMP more due to comfort. The looks are subjective, and both look good, each with own merits. If i was a bracelet lover, then submariner would be my choice. That being said, equally attractive, now i want silicon strap...then SMP for me!
I bought the last gen no wave SMP as less bling and slightly smaller. Ive been waiting for the new SMP as current one 6 years old. Needs to be slightly smaller, more subtle waves and a bracelet overhaul.
You should have compared the black dial SMP to the sub. I loved the blue dial on the SMP in the 90’s…..but this new blue doesn’t do it for me. The black SMP is gorgeous though.
My 2 cents. Nobody will use submariner or seamaster to go diving. They will buy a $500-700 Seiko diver for that purpose, so at the end it will be a personal preference.
It’s funny, I find the Omega Seamaster NTTD more interesting and refined than the Submariner which looks clunkier and is much heavier. Anyway, both of these high quality watches have their own merits. No one would be wrong buying either.
we can argue which is the better one all day (for me it is the SUB). but there is one fact. if i wanted to sell my submariner today, i would make a profit of 3k$ easy (i won't though). on the other hand, i have been trying to sell my seamaster for couple weeks with a 40% discount. nobody wants it..
I noticed the market is really slow these days. You either have to price it really aggressively or be patient. 40% off sounds competitive. It’ll sell… eventually.
@@BrokeWatchFanatic Thanks. I'm in the market for a Sub and have a very similar wrist size. Have been concerned about the size of the sub because everyone says it feels much larger on the wrist when compared to the prior model. You feel good about the size of the Sub so far?
Prior model as in the 5 digit I presume? If so, it is a little bigger (I tried my friend’s 5 digit), but regardless, I think the sub wears really well on my 6.75” wrist.
@@BrokeWatchFanatic No by prior model I meant the outgoing 6-digit model reference 116610LN. Good to hear it fits comfortably. Gives me confidence to buy a I have a very similar wrist.
I missed the mark on that one. 😔 my submariner review has the bezel action sound in the beginning. And my white seamaster review has the bezel action sound on that one.
C est simple si demain la submariner était aussi facile à acheter que la seamaster en 6 mois elle perdrait son attrait car bcp se lasseraient la seamaster est plus interessante.. ce qui est intéressant sur la submariner c est sa rareté et son prix en occasion et comme tout ce qu on ne peut pas facilement avoir on le désir plus que ce qui est facile a se procurer…
@@mema4922 ill take the heavier and robustness man watch SMP over the old man cyclops with a feminine taper all day everday and still have extra cash in my pocket...
Not an original comparison and not a lot to compare other than the water resistance and power reserve. I have two omega watches and one is my favorite piece, but submariner is a different level of animal.
"To be the best, you don't need the best product, you just need the best marketing" - Hans Wilsdorf. The Submariner is the culmination of all the copying Rolex did, even the model name is copied, but marketing has made it #1. Iconic? No ironic
@@madprod3696 It's used in saturation diving. It releases helium from inside the watch in a controlled manner so it doesn't build pressure and damage the internals.
@@BrokeWatchFanatic thank you for the answer I have a sea dweller triple 6, but I don't understand why omega continues to put this wart on its case what's more, it's already big at Rolex the valve is integrated into the case it's not also unsightly the only seamaster that I like to wear is the goldeneye seamaster quartz it is much smaller than the automatic model but we still have this crown that no one uses I can't wait to see the new one in 40mm the one worn daniel craig on jo 2024 p
@@zsb707 They look very 80’s. Very Pierce Brosnan. Omega are just reluctant to modernise them. It’s weird the Planet Ocean looks so fresh and nobody is interested. Sheeples buy the 300.
@@alfieakaronaldog Sheeple, especially nouveau riche sheeple buy Submariners. As for Omega being reluctant to modernize SMP, Rolex hasn't modernized Sub for 70 years 🙂.
@@zsb707 It evolves constantly. It was pretty much perfect to begin with though. It’s just changed to 41mm with a 21mm lug width. SMP300 could do with some taper at least lol. It has so many design aspects that people simply do not like in other watches. But great if you like it 😘
The Seamaster just looks cheesy, immature, and overdone. The submariner is a timeless icon that will still look awesome 50 years from now. Not to mention it’s a better built watch.
It’s actually not a better watch. The craftsmanship of the Omega is actually more refined. The only reason why Rolex has higher retail value and resale value is decades of brilliant marketing that has ingrained in peoples minds that it’s a better watch. When in actuality, if you break the watch down all the way to its wheels, the Omega is far superior.
@@GQguy24Turn both bezels and listen to the Rolex quality. The SMP sounds worse than a Chinese one from Ali Express. The bracelets ? The comfort ? Why do all brands copy Rolex and none copy Omega's goofy design? Because Rolex is definitely and infinitely better. Now and forever.
@@maitrehg you’re just proving my point lol. Nothing of what you just said is factual. It’s the decades of marketing that has literally trained people to believe that Rolex is the better built watch. It’s not. And the fact that they produce a limited amount of watches, making it impossible to just walk into a Rolex dealer and get the model you want right now today also increases the value. You can walk into any omega dealer today and get the exact omega model you want because they produce millions of more watches than Rolex does every year. Rolex purposely only produces a set amount so that the value will rise. Never heard of supply and demand? It’s simple business 101. It has nothing to do with the actual quality of Rolex. Are they very good watches? Of course. They’re excellent watches actually. But to they are superior to Omega is ridiculous. Only thing I agree with you is on the bracelet. I don’t like the bracelet on the SMP. That’s why I got mine on the black rubber strap.
@@GQguy24 When a manufacturer doesn't even make the effort to make a quality-sounding bezel on a diver, that says a lot about the overall quality of the product. Also, several buyers complain that the clasp no longer closes after a certain time. A well-known problem with this hideous bracelet. In closing, I'm a bracelet guy. For me, that's 50% of the experience. Being forced to remove my bracelet and put a rubber band on a watch of this price would be a real sacrilege.
When I looked at them in-person, I preferred the look of the seamaster. The only reason I'm not considering buying the seamaster is because of its hideous bracelet.
I have simple taste. I just find the Omega to be hideous. I'm not bashing it but i just find the whole thing ugly as hell. The Dial, the hands the case and the bracelet. Just can't do it.
i love both but do not have a submariner , i have 2 seamasters one a chrono and one an americas cup racing both early 90s models and the seamaster chrono has a much better bezel feel than the modern seamasters i also have a planet ocean and the bezel action is not great , my breitling avengers have a better action , how hard is it for manufacturers to get a rolex feel ? i believe that rolex use a spring loaded ball bearing where as others use a spring
The Sub by a mile. Better looking, performing, and history. Omega always misses the mark on their watches. The Seamaster looks like a mess. The band is from the 80's, the dial is unattractive and disorganized, the skeleton hands are outdated, and, of course, the helium release valve is just not necessary at that size and looks unappealing.
Oh look, another clown who thinks he knows about watches. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ So you think the official timekeeper for the Olympics for almost 100 years and the first ever watch brand accepted by NASA (who rejected Rolex by the way) “always miss the mark” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you really are a total idiot, aren’t you? The bracelet on that SMP ISN’T from the 80s, you moron. It’s completely different to any Omega bracelet from that decade. It’s a sportier version of the bracelet on the 1993 model. Stupid doesn’t even begin to describe you. You’re also a spineless idiot with zero integrity. Five months ago you were saying that SMP was a great watch, now it’s garbage. Are you naturally stupid or did you take lessons?
I have both, the lume on the hands on the SMP is poor and lets the watch down, not really a fair comparison as your no way getting a sub for anywhere near the price of a SMP
Sub by a mile. Just turn the bezel to feel the quality. The SMP : Goofy design, mediocre bracelet, low beat movement and tiny power reserve and worst bezel action and sound ever.
The beauty, elegance, refinement , classic iconic design which will never feel old , proportions, tapered bracelet ,the most satisfying bezel action ,extremely thin at 12mm and the glidelock clasp of a Rolex Submariner is just unmatched. I consider the Rolex Submariner 124060 to be dive watch perfection personified as a total package and value for money. The omega on the other hand is an absolute disaster. The odd lookin helium escape valve. The non tapering 20mm bracelet in 2024 (wtf are you doing omega?? Sleeping fr) . Too thick 13.7mm compared to the 12mm of the Submariner. The wave dial and skeleton hands . The design language is just an absolute jumble of features from different eras . Their bracelet design is still stuck in the 80’s lol . The scalloped bezel which is not grippy and bad /loud bezel action .Looks very crude and unrefined, not classy at all and just a confusing watch in general .
The Submariner to me is the most iconic watch off all time, I also own the 60th anniversary that I wear on the dark blue nato, I dislike the bracelet on the SMP but watch is amazing
I own bith these exact two watches...the Seamaster doesn't get any wrist time. The Sub is just better - better specs, better size and more comfortable.
