Bad teen years? Your 20s is your prime! Bad 20s? Your 30s is your prime! Bad 30s? Your 40s is your prime! Bad 40s? Your 50s is your prime! Bad 50s? Your 60s is your prime! Bad 60s? Your 70s is your prime! Bad 70s? Your funeral is your prime!
Genetics make the good looks, that are everything. brad pitt was a Chad, still is a chad and the guy is like 60. when he was in Troy he was like 41 years old. he could get any 20 yo girl on earth. a ugly guy, is always a ugly guy. 20 or 50 year old... doesnt matter. a chad is a chad, probably to his 50s or 60s if he takes care of his diet.
Its not simply a linear arrangement. At some point better looking men, or women for that matter, has a diminishing return compared some other quality. However it is true that without satisfying looks everything else is irrelevant.
if not looks you need to be neurotypical. And that is determined by your genes and childhood experience. No PUA programs and redpill books can help you.
Again its complicated. Generally speaking 30 something men are the peak of their desirability in general. Its why men in Hollywood tend to be at their peak in their 30s. However what are we talking about? To a 15 year old girl, no a 35 year old guy is not what she wants. However what 15 year old girls want is not really anything the society in general looks to for inspiration.
There was a study where they asked men to rate women based on how attractive they were. Women had their age next to their picture. The most attractive age was 22. Then they redid the experiment, but without showing age next to women's pictures. The most attractive age then was 15. So yeah, many men are deluding themselves, or taking in consideration societal norms when talking about attractiveness. But in natural situation, without context of knowing the age, we prefer younger girls.
Younger always wins yet Western society pushes this agenda that women get better with age. Sure, maybe at being better providers but not better looking.
@@SPACEDOUT19relatively to others her age. You can always tell if a woman used to be really attractive when they are older but it’s obvious that they aren’t what they used to be in many ways
Your peak is when your physical development is complete, aka soon after you go through puberty, it's a bit later for men than women. Your business, years in the gym, and "status" are redpill cope. These are the guys that say "i gave her everything and she still cheated" (with some unemployed dude that just looked better btw)
I wonder what you guys say when the girl cheats on him for a fatter dude or less attractive dude. Those stories do happen and I know them personally but nobody talks about that. Problem is guys view female attraction through a male lens. Which really this mainly what black pill teaches.
@@КалоянИлиев-я9т soooo she already has an attractive guy she's fucking. She really hot and nasty for the good looking dude maybe she's even living with him. Yet she's gonna bang a guy less attractive? Who has no money or anything? Wouldn't be the opposite of everything you're saying? Lol. Honestly anytime I see a woman cheat on her dude it's RARELY with a better looking dude and I'm talking from experience here lol
A lot of these "Red-Pill" Dudes keep trying to sell this idea as if there is a major difference between the so-called "peak" era between Broads and Blokes, but the truth is they really aren't all that different. What this is all about is Blokes in their 30's - 50's trying to desperately gain access to much younger broads with their wealth, since they didn't get any broads in earlier years, while they want to eliminate younger blokes from the dating / s3xual market competition and are trying to gaslight these younger blokes into becoming conditioned to think they must "work on themselves" because their "20's" are allegedly not their peak or best years when they need to establish their "careers" first! Even though Science and Evidence says otherwise! It's all a convenient psyop so young blokes think that their life starts in their 30's or 40's especially with broads! LOL. Nope! It's really cruel what some of these Red Pill influencers are trying to do in pulling the wool over the eyes of younger blokes, because they are continuing the same carrying down of trauma and pilfering process that the Boomers set into motion. From earlier times, just as it always were, guys and girls who met saw each other when they had nothing and built their lives up together. This whole "modern notion" that a Man has to build himself up first before he is wanted is total "bollocks", it's actually an attack on Blokes but especially the West, because they know this will ultimately destroy relations.
@AlexOdyssey9 That's why we are at war with these Capitalists, because the Capitalists want to uphold their "monopoly" on accessing Broads, who don't actually really like them or find them attractive. This is why some certain groups of Blokes get really really upset with the notion or idea that a Bloke should only be able to get Broads based on his looks. They hate the natural order of things...
Yeah well the other option is marry a chick be in a sexless marriage where she probably resents you and get divorced in 8 years as that's how long the average marriage last. As a guy your kind of fucked either way romantically at least you can be rich and fucked instead of broke and half your things taken away 😂
There is a situation where this would be true. If you were a fat vegan for your whole life and then suddenly at 35 you will eat a normal diet then yes you will peak at 37.
the graph is accurate in a society dominated by state laws and fiat currency. in nature, yes ofc all that would matter is youth, vigor and beauty. the school system alone probably delays most men's "market value" by a decade or more.
Rollo always wears ball cap pulled way down or cap due to balding and totally gray hair 1:52 you can see the gray on the temples, but he dies his ponytail
@@LC12345 Isn’t really weird since the baltics are moslty a mix of slavs and germanic people. They were under germanic control for long periods aswell. And in the end slavs are ethnically very close to germanic people
@@gr_eggso 14-16? At that age they still look quite childlike, for the most part. Well, in the pre-tiktok days. TikTok gives the info to look like a Vicki Secret model at a super young age, so that complicates things. But pre-tiktok, is that really the age range you’re referring to?
@@gr_egg I don’t disagree. Most men are in denial to themselves and others. I came to that acceptance bacause I’ve also felt this well. If it was wrong why have the age of consent always been changed and also different in countries. It’s all man made. Except maybe 14 and below might be too young
@@tori168 to honest. I’d say 14 and below maybe too young but 16 and over isn’t. Because age of consent have chanced since history and also it’s still legal in many states and country it’s all man made
I may agree with you but I'm actually peaking at 35, and hopefully I keep getting better. I'm way better looking and a lot healthier than in my 20's. My last ex girlfriend was 11 years younger than me. My last crush, who's 12 years younger than me, wasn't attracted to me because I'm too old (I was 32 and she was 20).
its funny because the graph is clearly edited. the male peak according to his graph is supposed to be around 30-32 but he distorted the graph to be older
went from listening to rollo and trying to better my life from his advice, to loathing the guy. hes a total dodo brain absolutionist, dude has completely lost the plot in favor of his own head canon about reality.
The guy is such a tool, everything from his fake name he took from a Kevin Spacey movie because he thought it sounded cool to being in his 50's but trying to still dress like he's in his 20's.
I am only women who I know that looking more attractive 34 year than 20 and many people think I am 20 and in shops I still can't buy alcohol without passport, is compliment for me, even my skin is fucked up from vegetarian food many years, I still look better in my 30-40
It's a classic confusion of correlation and causation. The women are not attracted to older men because they are old, but despite the fact they are old. It's simply the fact that on average these older men will have more of the traits women find desirable: maturity, confidence, status, wealth, etc. If a 20yo has all those things then the women will obviously chose him over the 45yo, but most 20yo men, on average, will have less wealth, a lower status, less maturity and potentially less confidence than the older guy. Women aren't attracted to some random 45 NEET loser. In fact they are repelled by such a person 100x more than they would be by a 20yo NEET loser.
I’m sorry, but you all are way off on this one. I don’t understand how you could have hardly any experience with women and think they want 20 year olds. I am almost 30, and 40-50 year old women generally don’t want me. Women in their early 20’s do. My gf is 23 and loves our age gap. Also, how tf you think no man on earth finds women 23-24 young enough? I make no apologies for the fact that I am not attracted to 15 year olds. I would not want my gf to be any younger than she is. 🤷♂️
Because you have been brainwashed by the modern norms and stigma that gyno...cen..tric society created to trap me...n. peak ages for wife are between 14-16 after 16 wom ...en body start deteriorating both external(skin) and internal(organ and reproductive system).
Hey goatis, what do you think about the koren guy who's 58 and looks mid 20s? the guy named Chuando Tan you may know. he has low bodyfat and the diet he eats seems like the conventional balanced diet.
@@GoatisReviewspeople are terrible at guessing ages. If people do say that he looks like he's in this 20s, they must be 25 but look like they're pushing 40 or are just plain stupid.
@@JoseCamposSegoviapeople have degraded in looks. That's the main reason why they say he looks like he's in his mid 20s when I (as a borderline ugly guy) would probably give him late 30s at the youngest.
I've been on a carnivore food for 7 years now. First it was Vonderplanitz then you came arround after he passed, thank you very much. To be honest i look like 20, i never looked better than i do now. And never gotten more womans than im getting now. In my 20 i didnt get to much cause i was horrible looking, kinda fat and i had bad hair since i ate mcdonalds and shit, rice potatoe spaghetti. Everywhere i go now, womans stop and say omg cause of my supreeme health that i got from my 7 years of being raw carnivore. I was completley bald in my 20, now i have so much hair i look like UFO. My body responsed insanely well on the carnivore diet. And im getting a muscular body without even training. But if you take me as 20 year old but was raised on a carnivore food. Im sure i've bee getting more womans back then. But trust me i was almost an incel until i became a carnivore. It changed my face structure completley. I am 34 now btw. Some people suffer way more if you dont eat really good, and some poeple can eat whatever and still look good. It's about how your geenes response to bad and healthy food. To be honest i have sex with 17 year olds even 15 occasionally. But what helped my DNA completley was fermented liver i eat it all of the time.
@@CultusNatura Those are abdominal furrows, also known as the Apollo’s belt. The v-taper is the result of conditioning the latissimus dorsi so that it protrudes as it tapers downward. The v-taper is not particularly natural if done so with muscular conditioning, as it gives men a weird funnel shape, and makes them oscillate when they walk. A well-proportioned male will naturally have a slight taper without unnatural muscular growth/conditioning, but that is largely due to genetics and upbringing (diet, normal physical activity, proper posture, etc.). I see this feature (exaggerated latissimus muscles) on dudes that have long torsos and shorter limbs, or vice-versa, and it looks caricatured
the "v-taper"... is a thing men that homo men like.... no woman on earth, has EVER said they like a "v-taper" body. literally zero. women look at your face (eye area and jaw) and your height.
Well, they have to cater to their target viewers, so they can lean back on their gaming seat with a big sigh of relief. " I just need to gym maxx, skill or job maxx , then i will get the lady in red ❤"
Gymmaxxing is an absolute cope. A lot of people go to the gym to compensate for an ugly face or other insecurities regarding their physical appearance. The gym really exists because of how degenerated we've become as humans.
This time I believe Goatis is wrong. Aristotle also unironically said that men peak at 37, you can look it up. Thats also my personal experience living in societies which are closer to nature in the sense that they don't have so much social security (Latin America, Far east Asia).
I think the idea that women want older men with resources is left over ideology from the fuedal system from back in the day. Resources are important but if a woman will only settle for you because of this then she really doesn’t like you. A relationship like that is probably dangerous.
Because they are trained and conditioned to enjoy it? Why do humans do hard drugs when it obviously shortens their life spans? My parents have a dog that is still going strong at 16, he just lies around at home all day, eats a shitty basic diet but still outlived all his peers who lived active lifestyles and went to the park often
Yeah, just take most statusmaxxed and moneymaxxed guy who was arguably the greatest prettyboy of all time in his youth, that can be definitely applied to the general population 😂
Honestly early 20's is still young and I agree with peak female attractiveness around that age from so many different observations both irl and on screen. This Rollo guys research is more of a backlash to the feminist movement and female coping that past 30 women can be or are just as attractive as they were in their early 20's, so in a sense there's an agreement to be had there, no need to really argue strongly against that even if you believe peak is several years younger than that still. And personally even as I get older (male 36) anything below say 19, starts to look too young and immature. The point of the matter is the female attractiveness peak is a very small window where it STARTS an incline post puberty and drops off towards mid 20's mark.
Psl God Mindset covered this. If you're average you are screwed as a older man. The exception to that would be if you had great genetics or a PSL God like Hernan Drago.
I know you’ve already done these guys before, but you should check out Jesse James West’s steroid women vs. average joes video or Derek Lunsford’s shredding diet video (you might die).
My girl is a model from Finland she's 23 and literally a 10 everyone turns their head to look at us when we're in public I saw photos of her at 18, she was way less hot Peak is 22-23 for women
If a man was a male model at 20 wouldnt women still understand at 40 he has amazing genetics for their children at 40? If looks and making beautiful healthy children is all that matter.
Hello goatis, do you do raw carnivore and advocate diet recommendations of aajonus vonderplanitz? I’ve been doing 4 litres of raw milk and 1-2 pounds of raw beef a day. Just need to kick the Yerba mate tea
Well I’m not sure… Given that most people are geriatric, aged and messed up by 30 nowadays - you’re right. Having said that, should one be well fed, mentally free and reach their genetic potential, there should be very little decline between the ages of 20 and 50 (especially if we’re talking about a sensible lifespan of 120-160). My great-grandparents’ generation women were fertile into their 50s, with no IVFs and other nonsense despite the world wars and what-not going off around them. But then again - many got correct nutrition and didn’t drown themselves in poisons and harmful activities on the daily.
A V taper is an natural attractive masculine bodyshape with broad shoulders and a small waist. When men age, have less testerone and as a result a fat belly you don't see the abs and V tape.
Hey Goatis, you say mewing is cope but without proper tongue posture your face will collapse and you won’t have proper facial development. Can you explain why mewing doesn’t matter and how it’s cope? Because nasal breathing is very important and breastfeeding trains the child to mew.
Whats the point of being in a relationship if you'll never truly be what your man wants? How can yo know he truly wants you and loves you? Prolly not, if you can never be what he truly wants.
Genetics make the good looks are everything. brad pitt was a Chad, still is a chad and the guy is like 60. when he was in Troy he was like 41 years old. he could get any 20 yo girl on earth. a ugly guy, is always a ugly guy. 20 or 50 year old... doesnt matter. a chad is a chad, probably to his 50s or 60s if he takes care of his diet.
@@TwistedLullabies in terms of youthfulness yeah, literally everything else no. For men, there’s more to attraction than looks, it’s competence. Older men tend to have this from experience, and the best combination of this is around early 30s if you take care of yourself and grind
@@TwistedLullabies I mean there’s nothing else to be done if you’re not attractive except surgery, at that rate you might as well try and compensate with other factors that are scientifically proven to boost your sexual market value. This is what almost all men do, and it works in most cases.
@@TwistedLullabies You have to understand the difference between looks only or aging and Sexual Market Value which is a number of things that make someone attractive
Male peak is late teens and maybe early 20s at most (assuming you modern environment, diet, etc.). Your skin starts to wrinkle and many people bald. The moment you start balding, you are already past your peak. But face skin is the most brutal. I would ask you for examples of men that look good and you will 100% show me some guy with nasolabial folds and forehead wrinkles. You are delusional if you think he is in his prime.
@@Grucha847 try yolks only. I hate the whites, you might hate them too without knowing it. And a tip, eat the yolks with something like ground meat especially if you cook the ground meat and it becomes drier. The yolks will make it more juicy and it is very delicious.
@@koletog30 thank you, I'll definitely try that. Yeah it might be the egg whites that make me throw up, I don't like the texture at all I think it's a thing in my mind that I have to overcome.
Hello Goatis, I like your video. The only thing you could perhaps mention as an exception is that some women actually have so-called "daddy issues". They really find men attractive who are older and resemble their fathers.
Women are most attractive when they look young, fertile and healthy. Age doesn't matter much at least when it comes down to the individual, it's all about the looks which show us if someone is healthy and has good genes, it's pretty easy really. There are 25 year old women that look like 18 and there are 23 year old women that look like 35.
Women love money but surely they prefer young and handsome men to run the CC. Men are honest and prefer young and beautiful girls. Sexual value? Maybe we have to talk about a balance of social and sexual values.
5:34 V-taper is talking about a guy's upper-body shape. Wide shoulders, back, & chest should taper to a slimmer waist. Supposedly there's an ideal ratio for maximum aesthetics. The masculine version of a woman's hourglass figure.
thats what gymbros like. men with a "v-taper" haha no woman in history has EVER they want a "v-taper" boyfriend. they want a TALL, pretty face boyfriend. stop the cope
I eat raw sirloin and ribeye steak freshly cut red red vibrant red everyday I ride my bike to butcher just to get it fresh. It is my absolute favorite meal especially the raw fat tastes so good. And very easy to chew.
Are we the only animal who delays sexual activity until well after reaching sexual reproduction age? I can't think of any other animal where fertility is reached and then unnaturally delayed purposefully for moral reasons. I obviously can't say it explicitly on youtube but it's obvious that in nature women would be desired most when they become young women, irrespective of age in years.
I mean I don't think that most people honestly delay it. It may have been frowned on by parents but most my peers became active shortly after reaching puberty age. With people in their own age range..... Many parents knew and ignored it, some parents prolly foolishly thought that their child would never do that. And it is like that most everywhere. Its just generally frowned upon for them to be with much older people. just as it's frowned upon for a boss to be with an employee. There's a power imbalance.
@@Robyn-kw8gs It's nothing to do with a 'power imbalance'. Authorities meddle because they want to keep people in perpetuity in childhood - people that want families young don't get jobs and pay taxes. In nature a 20 year old man for example would have children with a 14 or 15 year old. All 30 year old men would prefer a 16 year old than a 25 year old. It's just common sense. If i am 25 and marry a 25 year old she has 15 years of fertility. If i marry a 15 year old she has 25 years of fertility. You'd want the most kids possible. Every other animal breeds as soon as biologically possible. We have man made laws preventing it. I would also like to point out that there's a huge difference between being attracted to literal children (very wrong) and being attracted to a woman who is under the legal age of consent but is nonetheless a woman. I had a mate who was 18, was in love with a 15 year old and was called a 'paedophile' by our other mates. Madness. None of this matters to me anyway since i'm already married with several children but it's just a fact of nature.
You're generally correct but there are exceptions. Yea, women are very similar to men though different biological clocks regsrds fertility. When was a child in the 1960's the older women believed 19-20y was the start of wall.
You're right on this one. This is some coping. But it does matter being in shape. Not insecurely muscular/ripped, but also not fat and/or weak. This makes sense in nature. What also does matter is your charisma and overall aura. If you're slow, bland, boring, low social intelligence, shy and so on, your perceived attraction will drop, and vice versa. This also makes sense from a natural perspective. We are social animals, evolved in societies/tribes/groups. I also don't think men and women are different this way like you say, and I also value both these things highly. For me facial esthetics is the gatekeeper. It's a yes or a no, past that point it's irrelevant. It is affected ofc by health in the sense that too much fat, stress symptoms or bad skin alters it. Most men and women that put some effort into staying fresh can find a *match* I would say. Obv, genetics is a limiting factor, there's no denying it. Some girls will be out of your league no matter what. But it's like the actual truth is somewhere between black and red pill. I've been out and about *a lot* myself and observing others. I'm not operating on a pre-determined set of beliefs that I try to fit reality into, which I feel both these camps do.
Gotta say though that he's sort of right. Guys just mature later physically for whatever reason, so it usually matches upwards a couple of years. 15-16 years on average? No way, but easily 3-4 years. Saying that an older woman would prefer a younger man doesn't disprove this.
Muscles is cope. Physique really doesn’t matter much and really the only thing that actually matters about your physique is being lean other than that nothing else matters a skinny pretty boy mogs a gymcel, it’s the brutal reality acknowledging it’s all about your face which is determined by your genetics.
@@LooksmaxxingLMS According to who? Body makes a difference, just the same as it does for us with women. It's the same. Yes, good body fat is good for face and being built can frame your face better. Zyzz is unironically perfect example of that. Is a a 3/10 baseline fit guy ever gonna mog a 9/10 baseline model? Ofc not, But you can move maybe 1-2 points up and double that down depending on what you do or don't do to take care of yourself. People didn't randomly specifically start working out for no reason. What you guys don't seem to understand also is that physical attraction can be vastly increased or decreased from personality. "Flaws" in the physical appearance can become precious and vice versa.
@@Postermaestro I think a lot of factors come in to play because for guys who are later bloomers will likely not have their facial features fully developed until later on which has nothing to do with working out it’s mostly genetics and also diet plays a role in development. I’m 20 years old and my face is more defined than it was when I was a teenager my looks improved drastically and not once did I step in the gym, I have a girlfriend who I’ve been together with for 2 years and I never hit the gym before I met her and still don’t to this day. While I don’t believe that we should live a completely a sedentary lifestyle I completely reject the idea of going to the gym I’d much rather just hike feels much more natural than lifting man made metal, I will only do workouts that aren’t high stress and I will always listen to my senses never want to stress your heart out. I’ve built some muscle mass from working at my laborious job which I don’t mind but have no interest in looking “ripped” I’m only interesting in appealing to the female gaze because that’s how you keep attraction anything that appeals to the male gaze is not something I will adopt as it repels women hence why it’s called the male gaze.
@@LooksmaxxingLMS Honestly we are not even disagreeing. I work with computers so I have to simulate the natural activity some. I'll do like a 1 mile run to do lake, swim a bit, do some pull ups, lift some logs etc. out in the sun. In my opinion, physical attraction is the gatekeeper, and getting in natural athletic shape makes a difference. Not all the difference obv, but also not none. Then how you act, carry yourself, social intelligence and so on makes a huge difference. But yeah some girls will be out of some guys range, and vice versa, purely based on genetics. Just how it is.
@@fredof4413 she’s not ugly at all. Quite beautiful actually, gets a lot of attention but she’s Christian and has a super low body count.. She’s “feminine, fit and friendly”. I think us both being Christian helps. I look a lot younger due to being healthy for awhile. She thought I was 25 when we met. And Ive always done alright with girls but I’m not the most handsome guy ever. But I do get fair amount of attention. I also have money
