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Roman Historian on The Founding of Rome // Livy on Romulus and Remus // 1st century BC Roman Source 

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The beginning of the city that forged the western world.
Here we have the story of Romulus and Remus, brought to us by Titus Livius, and the fable Romans passed down from generation to generation of the ancient origins of their empire - a tale of compassion, rebellion and fratricide.
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@bareit98
@bareit98 4 года назад
Romulus: What should we name this city? Remus: Reme. Romulus: I have a better idea...
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser 4 года назад
*Sharpening sword*
@giacomopiccinini9157
@giacomopiccinini9157 4 года назад
‘What should we name this city?’ ‘We?’
@TheLoneClaw
@TheLoneClaw 4 года назад
Remus: LOL, maybe we should name the city Reme? xD Romulus: No. :)
@byzantineboi8345
@byzantineboi8345 4 года назад
Imagine if remeus killed Romulus we would have had the rememan empire PAX REMEMANA
@nemrody7828
@nemrody7828 4 года назад
@@byzantineboi8345 Reman Empire, not Rememan. You dont call the original one Romoman, or Romeman, do you?
@theadventuresofbrockinthai4325
@theadventuresofbrockinthai4325 4 года назад
I HAVE HEARD THIS STORY MANY TIMES BUT ALWAYS ENJOY HEARING IT AGAIN.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 года назад
Hurray!
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 4 года назад
You don't have to shout.
@khawla2358
@khawla2358 4 года назад
Plzz Brock could you help me by a summury of this vedeo plzz czz I want it in my studies and thank uuu 😍😍😍🥺❤️
@TheSaneHatter
@TheSaneHatter 4 года назад
It's a credit to Livy's scholarship that he documents where so many important words and ideas come from. Particularly so, being willing to take on the issue of whether "Lupa' means "she-wolf" or "harlot," and thus, to entertain alternate readings of the scared story.
@IliyanStoychev
@IliyanStoychev 4 года назад
@Revolvin Goatt harlot is a word for prostitute/whore, in ancient rome, since sex was not viewed as something bad or sinful, prostitutes were called she wolfs. in other words, the Brothers who found Rome, were not fed by a an actual she-wolf, but a prostitute woman.
@iapetusmccool
@iapetusmccool 4 года назад
"Their father was the god Mars. (Or possibly their mother just made that up)". "They were found and raised by a she-wolf. (Or possibly just by a woman called "wolf")."
@hannibalburgers477
@hannibalburgers477 3 года назад
I absolutely love your mentality boys. Here have a male tit.
@georgewilson7432
@georgewilson7432 4 года назад
Things happened, Remus died, I got a city.
@evershumor1302
@evershumor1302 4 года назад
How we all explain things when they went our way
@Strider91
@Strider91 4 года назад
Dont look too much into it. . . .
@ExVeritateLibertas
@ExVeritateLibertas 4 года назад
When Livy mentions the adoptive mother of Romulus and Remus was reportedly called "Lupa" (Latin for she-wolf), he is expressing doubt in the foundation myth. Nice that even the ancient writers were capable of historical criticism.
@goyonman9655
@goyonman9655 4 года назад
that their capability for historical criticism impresses/surprises you, is evidence of your ignorance about anthropology, history
@ExVeritateLibertas
@ExVeritateLibertas 4 года назад
@@goyonman9655 That you think I was surprised/impressed (I wrote no such thing) is evidence of your ignorance of how to read.
@goyonman9655
@goyonman9655 4 года назад
@@ExVeritateLibertas That Humans are capable of historical criticism, especially in Roman times, is nothing worthy of not They're likely a lot more clever than YOU are
@KickAndDestroy
@KickAndDestroy 4 года назад
I recommend the movie, Romulus & Remus: The First King (2019)
@carljohnson5446
@carljohnson5446 4 года назад
Is it Hollywood trash?
@Xfire209
@Xfire209 4 года назад
@@carljohnson5446 From the google pics it looks like a mud age movie
@gabrielinostroza4989
@gabrielinostroza4989 4 года назад
@@carljohnson5446 It's an Italian movie spoken entirely in historically accurate latin, so you know it doesn't even attempt to be appealing for Hollywood.
@mr.notsonice
@mr.notsonice 4 года назад
@@Xfire209 rome started in mud
@carljohnson5446
@carljohnson5446 4 года назад
Gabriel Inostroza oh is that what it is? Then it’s worth it to take a look. Thank you.
@XIII.1337
@XIII.1337 4 года назад
I am Romulus I am the king of Rome An empire shall rise!
@cv4809
@cv4809 4 года назад
You mean the republic
@viktorsov8729
@viktorsov8729 4 года назад
@@cv4809 In order to ensure the security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the first Roman Empire
@viktorsov8729
@viktorsov8729 4 года назад
@Revolvin Goatt or we are just very bad at being "intelligent specie's" but I feel you brother
@mythosandlogos
@mythosandlogos 4 года назад
Great choice! About two weeks ago I did a mythological telling and symbolic study of Romulus, Remus, & the Sabines, and hearing it from a more strictly historical perspective is interesting! You’ll see if you give a listen, I believe this story is responsible for so much of Roman culture as it developed. Cheers!
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 года назад
Niiice
@mythosandlogos
@mythosandlogos 4 года назад
Voices of the Past Senpai noticed me! Seriously though, this is one of my absolute favorite channels. You’re able to truly transport me through time, and that’s an amazing thing.
@kaltonian
@kaltonian 4 года назад
Brilliant, very interesting, may i also add that your voice really makes the video to.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 года назад
Thanks!
@philodonoghue3062
@philodonoghue3062 4 месяца назад
Nice change from the AI voiceovers with robotic intonation, mispronunciations etc.
@bareit98
@bareit98 4 года назад
I'm watching this now as I look at the Palatine Hill. Truly amazing. Thank you
@shannonwinters4807
@shannonwinters4807 4 года назад
Thank you for these great videos. You are killing it very badass.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@stev1963hit
@stev1963hit 2 года назад
Superb narration as ever-when this guy's talking you can see it all in your head as if you were there.
@nanphx9405
@nanphx9405 4 года назад
I am so glad the algorithm sent me here! Your choices are fascinating and so well told. Thanks very much for another great story
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 года назад
Welcome! There's lots more
@tinkmarshino
@tinkmarshino 4 года назад
you bring forth the most interesting of topics here.. I am glad that I have subscribed thank you for your hard work... carry on!
@ulfnowotny01
@ulfnowotny01 4 года назад
Very impressive narration! Thank you!
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@royriley6282
@royriley6282 4 года назад
An obvious theme regarding the futility of divination in the founding myth of an empire obsessed with divination.
@Nathan-yk5km
@Nathan-yk5km 4 года назад
Roy Riley wait are you saying you don’t believe every word of that?
@mythosandlogos
@mythosandlogos 4 года назад
Nathan I posted an analysis a few weeks ago; I see it as a story of the mistrust and infighting in any growing society. After all, if Mars/Ares was with Rhea Silvia, the brothers were children of war - which even if not literally true, definitely is symbolically true when you look at the full story.
@maybelogical6037
@maybelogical6037 4 года назад
wow very enlightening
@shanecarubbi7864
@shanecarubbi7864 4 года назад
This was a really good one for me. Iv always liked the story of Romulus and Remus but I never heard it like this. Thank you voices of the past! That was awesome. 👍
@APR4U
@APR4U 4 года назад
I found this particular historical record very in lightening 🙏 thank you 👍 you may live to fight another day🤣 APR4U 🇺🇸
@OlymPigs2010
@OlymPigs2010 4 года назад
...they reworked the old "Cain & Able" Mythology !
@MORE1500
@MORE1500 4 года назад
The 12 vultures were prophetic. From 753 BC to 476 AD. One vulture for each century.
@greenrocket23
@greenrocket23 4 года назад
Interestingly enough by 2029 we'll be as distant chronologically from Charlemagne, the founder western feudal christian civilization, as Romulus Augustulus the last Roman emperor of the Western Roman empire was to Romulus the founder of Rome.
@rennor3498
@rennor3498 2 года назад
The first ruler of Rome was called Romulus the first Roman Imperator was called Augustus and the last Emperor was called Romulus Augustus. There was clearly something truly divine about Rome.
@xiuhcoatl4830
@xiuhcoatl4830 2 года назад
@@rennor3498 the blessings of Vesta and Jupiter
@deanbuss1678
@deanbuss1678 4 года назад
Still enjoying these video shorts.👍
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 года назад
Yaaay
@shannonwinters4807
@shannonwinters4807 4 года назад
Judges 19 seems like it could use this type of narration.
@concars1234
@concars1234 4 года назад
Based Romulus
@mattickista
@mattickista 4 года назад
YES
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 4 года назад
Yayyyy
@chaosdwarf406
@chaosdwarf406 4 года назад
Absolutely wonderful channels. Simply unparallelled quality, and I say this with a great deal of familiarity with lectures, documentaries and audiobooks. Here is a particular event that is right there in the ancient sources (Appianus of Alexandria, to be specific), yet which has always been glossed over by generations of historians for hundreds of years. It truly deserves to become known to the wider public. You can find all source references in this thread here: www.chaos-dwarfs.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=17441 or here as backup: www.the-ninth-age.com/community/index.php?thread/36310-philonides-of-tarentum/ Please give Postumius and Philonides their long deserved spotlight of fame and infamy respectively.
@georgewilson7432
@georgewilson7432 4 года назад
And that's how the Pomeriun came to be.
@n0denz
@n0denz 4 года назад
8:49 And that's why you don't jump over the Pomerium.
@holmgeirgautreksson2451
@holmgeirgautreksson2451 4 года назад
Try Saxo Grammaticus' account of the battle of Brávellir next.
@classicgameplay10
@classicgameplay10 4 года назад
I would like to see more sources from the times of roman decline, something from the perspective of the german barbarian tribes who were taking roman land. Like, I dont know, Vandals or goths.
@cadepope4093
@cadepope4093 3 года назад
Me waiting for the 'Ninjitsu-style death-kick' part of the story: ... ... ...
@marloyorkrodriguez9975
@marloyorkrodriguez9975 4 года назад
The prophesy of the gods has been fulfilled, oh how I wish I should have died instead. May this fraternal blood that I had shed be a reminder and a foundation that will be hard as stone, so that he that dares to cross it, dares to fight, seek refuge from it may say ‘tremble this is Rome’ - Romulus, Il Primo Re, 2019 film
@LuxInvicta
@LuxInvicta 4 года назад
If Remus has founded a city it would be called REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@Daniel-wt9bh
@Daniel-wt9bh 4 года назад
Rema?
@wfobeor
@wfobeor 4 года назад
Reme: the eternal city
@Strider91
@Strider91 4 года назад
Doesn't have the same ring to it
@konstantinostourl1722
@konstantinostourl1722 4 года назад
How was the Tiber called before Tiberius???
@evershumor1302
@evershumor1302 4 года назад
What is the outro music called?
@iscreamfitness
@iscreamfitness 3 года назад
Funny How finding kids in a basket and coming back for revenge is like the bible. The King of egypt
@Meeeeeeie
@Meeeeeeie Год назад
Alba longa
@HVLLOWS1999
@HVLLOWS1999 4 года назад
Normal guy: I live in AD 2,019 Me a true civilized man: 2,772 AVC
@Ukitsu2
@Ukitsu2 4 года назад
Or Greek Calendar year 2795.
@HVLLOWS1999
@HVLLOWS1999 4 года назад
@@Ukitsu2 starts in 744BC right?
@Ukitsu2
@Ukitsu2 4 года назад
@@HVLLOWS1999 In 776BC. First Olympic Games. But if we go full mythology mode (like many calendars do) we could use the War of Atlantis, or its destruction: about Year 10700 if I recall correctly.
@HVLLOWS1999
@HVLLOWS1999 4 года назад
@@Ukitsu2 awesome
@mykulpierce
@mykulpierce 4 года назад
Compare Romulus versus Remus to Cain and Abel. No story of Cain in Abel in Dead Sea Scrolls.
@mykulpierce
@mykulpierce 4 года назад
@@nocomment1469 that places the oldest version of Cain and Abel about 700 years after Romulus and remus. Primary sources vs primary sources
@mythosandlogos
@mythosandlogos 4 года назад
There are so many parallels in mythology, it absolutely blows my mind.
@jonmkl
@jonmkl 4 года назад
Pliny was writing in the 1st century BC, the Greek translations of Genesis were complete in Egypt in the 3rd century BC, the Greek translation of Genesis is older than the majority of the Dead Sea scrolls fragments. Where is the 7 centuries you’re talking about? What’s the earliest primary source for Romulus and Remus? Also, what exactly are the similarities? Cain and Abel were brothers. They were not twins, they were not abandoned, they were not the children of a Virgin or of adultery of any kind, they did not kill a King, they were not bandits. Is the _only_ similarity that they are brothers, and that Cain founded a city after killing Abel? Is fratricide truly that rare in ancient history that one of these stories has to be related to the other? There’s hardly a historical royal family history that does _not_ include fratricide.
@mykulpierce
@mykulpierce 4 года назад
@@jonmkl Dionysius, vol 1 p. 72 is the first primary source around 3rd century bc. The primary source for Cain and Abel doesn't appear 2nd or 3rd century ad There is no Cain and Abel in Dead Sea Scrolls.
@jonmkl
@jonmkl 4 года назад
Michael Pierce Michael Pierce Patently false. The Greek Septuagint is dated to the 3rd century BC and contains Cain and Abel, this date for the Septuagint is corroborated by a number of witnesses including Josephus in the 1st century. Moreover, Dionysius of Halicarnassus was born in the first century BC, not the third. Meaning he lived 200 years _after_ the accepted date of the Septuagint. And the *oldest* Dionysius manuscript we possess is from the 10th century AD, 1000 years after he lived. The earliest manuscript of the Septuagint by comparison is from the 1st or 2nd century BC, a full 1200 years earlier. But even BEYOND that argument, are you really suggesting that one of these barely related stories has to be derivative from the other? As if no royalty ever has killed his brother before? Cain’s fratricide isn’t even related to the building of his city, the two events are far apart in time and Abel was not an aggressor against Cain. These stories barely relate.
@bobbyshiznit6123
@bobbyshiznit6123 2 года назад
Sabines
@clickfeedvideo2743
@clickfeedvideo2743 4 года назад
Wolf: "It felt good"
@tertia0011
@tertia0011 4 месяца назад
'Ita solus potitus imperio Romulus; condita urbs conditoris nomine apellata.' I,7.
@13gladius28
@13gladius28 4 года назад
Romulus was reincarnated as Louis XVI of france. Karma can be a b*tch
@concars1234
@concars1234 4 года назад
He did a great job, even did too well seeing as how it ended up for the French monarchy
@NikolaGruevski666
@NikolaGruevski666 4 года назад
Romans are just improved Greeks. Some would say perfect Greeks.
@SammytheStampede
@SammytheStampede 3 года назад
Awful: I’m sure Romulus regretted it later in life, being a twin I can relate, as my twin and I are very close. We were womb mates after all.
@villiestephanov984
@villiestephanov984 4 года назад
Adulamite was a friend to Judah and companion to the Canaanite's woman.
@jesseandrews7200
@jesseandrews7200 2 года назад
they did it for 100 years.
@GBlockbreaker
@GBlockbreaker 4 года назад
Normal weebs: oh hey Rome is pretty cool Fate weebs: ROMA!!!!!
@iamscoutstfu
@iamscoutstfu 3 года назад
Priestess mother Shepherd father and /or "keeper of the King's _____" King attempts to kill them Sargon of Akkad intensifies.
@WarDogMadness
@WarDogMadness 4 года назад
Alba is that evidence of medatrian picts.
@WarDogMadness
@WarDogMadness 4 года назад
@Jay See ahhh right don't want to get history wrong now.
@MyFamilyGmail
@MyFamilyGmail 4 года назад
It's hard to follow certain sections of these readings - because the language is so "flowery". Obscure words, nonsensical sentence structures. Wish you could substitute the more pretentious sections with clearer/modern language.
@jaydoublegee2831
@jaydoublegee2831 4 года назад
Remus stormed a shopping centre in ancient Rome and shouted: "It's MA'AM!!!!!" Aaaaaaaand Romulus killed him. And that's, children, how Rome was born. (He actually shouted "MATRONA EST!!" but it's Latin so you wouldn't understand. Now off to bed children!)
@jaydoublegee2831
@jaydoublegee2831 4 года назад
pyropulse 😂
@CleversonSantos
@CleversonSantos 4 года назад
Hey man would be great if you could read some parts of the bible, I think it would be great...
@Amir_Khosrowshahi
@Amir_Khosrowshahi 4 года назад
Meanwhile Cyrus the great was the first human given the title the great and unified over half the world population inventing the idea of United States with no slaves and avoiding conflict leaving a legacy of cultural rural liberty and tolerance, and setting the framework for the bureaucracy of Rome, this is why the Persian way will always be better than the Roman way
@dawood121derful
@dawood121derful 4 года назад
this story is a ridiculous fable
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