Well, it is interesting, because this very same author's (Procopius) history on Justinian heaps praise upon him and calls him one of the greatest Emperors ever. The Secret History was something he probably wrote in private and only shared with close friends. It makes you wonder which one of them is true, or if they're both complete bullshit (one being propaganda and the other being slander).
@@CollinBuckman Sure, but you'd have to assume it isn't all complete bullshit. After all, why would Procopius write such a document if he didn't have any genuine negative thoughts about Justinian privately? The demonic shit is obviously short hand or poetic exaggeration, but it does make one question his official works which claim that Justinian was the greatest Emperor ever.
actually yes, they were the faction opposed to the blues. And their confrontación exploded in the Nika riots. I said "yellows" as a joke. Perhaps a bad joke to be honest :v
On Nebuchadnezzars dream in Daniel and Revelation Justinian is the man predicted the Bible time-line that adds to 666. He is the narcissist monster who's head "as it were" was wounded to death in Johns vision in chapter 13" History records all these credible witnesses that saw this vision as if his head were wounded to death by a sword where it would be destroyed and then return as if it were healed back. Amaxing! To prove that Justinian counts 666 'Watch how God reveals the entire time-line to prove this is God's proohecy. click RU-vid video title "Book of Abraham part 9" click mame Paul Gregersen to get there. This is the real prophecy as God wrote it into your Bible. Prove it by God's math.
The Secret History is just the weirdest thing. if you dont know Precopious was a member of Justinian's court and wrote the most reliable account of his reign. then a few hundred years later in the Vatican library some church scholars find the secret history literally hidden away. the secret history itself never actually claims to be written by Precopious but it makes reference to its authors other works, and we know Precopious wrote those other works.
@@paulmayson3129 one theory is that he did it so that if Justinian is deposed he would show this work to his successor and tell him oh yeah I hated Justinian too 🤷🏻♂️
One is slander and character assassination. The other other epic brown nosing. Still, they have historical value. However, it speaks to the character of the writer.
I particularly enjoy the voice inflictions, as if really talking about dirt that they had just heard, and sharing the gossip with us, thr listeners. Sounds like the narrator is really relishing talking crap. 😄😁
Love the Secret History. First read it as a teenager. One of the most entertaining primary sources, and a total contrast with Procopius' formal official history.
@@dylanchouinard6141 I was going to joke about how atrazine (the chemical getting into drinking water that turns male frogs into female) hadn't been invented yet, but Damnit that was unironically the 2nd most spectacularly executed ❝Grͬeͤeͤks aͣrͬeͤ hͪoͦmͫoͦs❞ joke I've ever seen. Simplicity is key, I suppose.
@@petergriffintv8315 Which of his writings are true tho? His official writing counters this… bro wrote literal pages about how its BS that Theodora gives it up for Senators but not him, this is nothing more than his venting journal 😭
Watch the end of the vid below, it explains the motive behind said speech. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PehCn_3kyw4.html Whole vid is worth a watch.
It’s not a great or riveting speech. It’s about her not willing to relinquish control for a time in retreat even if it means the end of her reign, along with the empire in a suicidal tantrum.
He’s the same guy who lauded him as a great emperor officially, and was personally employed by Justinian, this work was what he wrote in secret though. At least we think it was Procobius since the work makes mention of a lot of his prior works which was common in ancient history, historians loved to shill their own books. So he’s about as reliable as we get.
@John Titor Pretty much all of Justinian's conquests lasted at least 100 years. True, three years after his death the Lombards invaded Italy, but they only took around half of the Peninsula, and the Eastern Romans still held onto most of the important cities such as Ravenna, Venice, Naples, and Rome, and they would maintain some form of presence there until the Normans came in 500 years later. North Africa proved to be a staunchly loyal province of the Empire, holding out during the great Persian War at the beginning of the 600s while Egypt and the Levant fell. Also, when the Arab Conquests began, the Levant and Egypt once again fell quickly to the invaders, but it would take them another 50 years to take and conquer Carthage, and had Justinian II better managed the Empire after Constantine IV left it in a good spot then the Exarchate of Africa may have been able to have been retained for centuries more. Not to mention that most of the problems that had arisen during Justinian's reign had been resolved by the end of Maurice's, less than half a century after Justinian's death. It was the overthrow of Maurice and the Byzantine-Sasanian War of 602-628 that really doomed the Empire, at least for the next 100 years until Leo III's reign.
I didn't know almost abandoning your empire after riots and dismissing your most successful general at the most decisive moment with a demented eunuch is considered "competent"
What if the Secret History is actually from an alternate universe? One where Justinian really was a shape shifting monstrosity, and Procopius wasn't the sycophantic court historian that he is in our world
I almost 4 got 2 mention you 🎸 & thanks 4 taking time sharing that story. I should sleep awesome. Great work. I shall be turned. This would certainly be terrific 4 campfire sleepover, 😆. (Like un my living room on the floor w/ boxes covering our heads. Seriously I'm happy I'm not alone tommorrow morning watch how scared I be. Not wanting my husband 2 go 2 work or nothing. 😆. I enjoy your page.
Yeah saw that episode too. They tried to downplay Procopius' Secret History by making a mockery out of his work. Watch the other side of the coin, then be the judge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PehCn_3kyw4.html
Their king came to the throne after driving out the demon-worshipers who sacrificed babies and baked their flesh on flat bread for good omens. He promised that he would build a great defensive fortification around his kingdom to protect it from barbarians, and that he would drain the great swamp to turn into farmland for his loving people. It is said that their king so disliked his predecessor that he had courtesans micturate on the former king's bed. It is also said in whispers that he lays with his daughter for no woman in all the kingdom could be as perfect as she that came from his own loins. He has himself been heard to say that he carries women around by their pudenda but he is also known to have the hands of a very small child. I have not seen these things for myself but it is what I have heard from people and they have no reason to lie.
@@sokar_rostau Sad attempt at satire except a man is in custody awaiting extradition,for revealing state orchestrated murder. A former supermodel languishes in a mental institution for claiming leading members of European Royal families used the fashion industry to groom underaged girls for sex and trafficking. Members of the Swedish and Dutch Royalty subsequently forced to relinquish 'Royal' status. Another Royal, directly named by a victim, refuses to testify or help with enquiries..I could go on, but you get the picture. No satire.
Imagine being the most powerful man in the world tasked with reconquering the Western portion of your Empire and holding it despite the logistical impossibilities. Is it surprising he couldn't sleep or eat much, considering all that pressure?
I'm not sure Justinian had anything to do with that. The Emperor appears to have been a very good bureaucrat but a lousy person. He had men like Belisarius to manage conquests, who was most definitely the brains of that operation. So much so that Justinian had him destroyed out of jealousy.
@@cgavin1 The Byzantine Emperors had a lot of pressure on them, both from the public and the aristocracy. They had to give the people "bread and circuses", as their Western counterparts did, while navigating complex palace intrigue and nonstop factions. You need only briefly look at Byzantine history to see how many Emperors were murdered, banished, overthrown in coups, blinded, or otherwise mutilated and exiled. Justinian certainly had a lot on his plate and some heavy expectations to stand at the top. It could have fueled his jealousy, or indeed some of the negative portrayals of him given by Procopius or John of Ephesus.
You could have kept that lil bit 2 yourself, weather you were presently there when these terrifying acts & events occurred or not, I darn surely would argue that statement down. Dam Mr. Your awakwardly awesome. You could have fooled me I would have sworn you were not only present you indeed was none other than the prefect witness.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PehCn_3kyw4.html Ditch the feminazi liberal propaganda, and see Justinian+Theodora's reign for what it really is . .
it's a tragedy you made this video before your channel blew up. Procopius' Secret History is one of the funniest surviving slanders from medieval times.
wait a minute mother impregnated by a demon in her sleep,him running around headless and sometimes faceless at points causing mischief and then becoming sound of mind... sounds like Justinian was more of a yokai then a demon of the Christian lore o.o 😂.
Well, demons are (still) real, unless you're a brainwashed atheist ofcourse and you rule out and question everything, including your own existence, which is purely nonsensical😉 Check out this vid about Justinian and Theodora, very interesing ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PehCn_3kyw4.html
@@tinkmarshino Blunt doesn't equal rude, and I wasn't even blatantly blunt. My reply was a "right back at you" kind of thing. Point stands, that "real" atheists NEED to come to a nihilistic conclusion, one of continuous skepticism and questioning every aspect of existence. Which again is nonsensical and frankly depressing.
This reminds me of the arab prophet Du Alhadala who came from the tribe of Al Duce, his slave mom was on a hill and came up with a similar story, he grow up and became the greatest priest of the Kaaba of Al Duce and took it to military glories with his prophecies and schemes then he lost his foresight and told his tribe that greater Prophet in Mecca (Mohammed) he asked them to take him on the top of a sacred hill then through rocks at him and then he self emulated to death.
@DjRawd0g Not necessarily, there were several Jewish and Christian kingdoms and tribes in the Arabian Peninsula for a long time, and there is also a term for pre-Muslim monotheists or that held similar values. There was a surprising amount going on
I believe he wrote it (fyi so do historians). I believe for the most part he is speaking truthfully about the corruption and disgusting amount of political intrigue. Obviously, the demon/devil stuff isn't real. So why would he include it? That's the real question that I'd reccommend you'd try to figure out the answer to. I myself think he was added it as a parallel to critizise them both for the monstrous things he claims they did. He didn't necessarily make these up though, he may have believed them himself even. To his account in the secret history ( which he just called Unpublished Writings ) all the annecdotes of Justinian being a demon come from sources of people he knew to be faithful good men. Some of which didn't have a dislike to Justinian even. I'm just throwing my hat in the ring here. I'm no expert
"Justinian was not the son of Sabathia, nor of any man" me: "okay so im gonna learn the story of justinian being the son of an emperor that got deified or something? this might be neat, thats historically accurate" "a demon came to visit his mother. He was invisible, but--" siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
THANK YOU!! This is my favorite part of Procopius' history, and demonstrates just what kind of "historian" he was! It also answers to those modern revisionists who deny that there was a "fall" of Rome, or that the Byzantines were somehow "lesser" than Rome at its height. To which I say, compare Procopius' depictions of Justinian and Theodora wandering about the palace sans heads with Tacitus' depictions of the Julio Claudians. Tacitus is like reading an account written by a thoroughly modern, well educated man. Procopius sounds like either an insane lunatic, or someone so superstitious that you simply cannot believe much of what they relate. Such was the legacy of the intellectual effects of economic and cultural collapse, and even that of Christianity.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PehCn_3kyw4.html In his book, he doesn't claim to have witnessed these invidents first hand. But considering how there's a moral decay + sexual degeneracy + corruption, Procopius didn't rule them out. An ex-child prostitute turns into actress+escort turn into empress....what? So much for the Romans to be proud of...
*The Issue of The Justinian Emperor there are Two People who shared ruling in Macedonia! Which Person was the Story referred to: Emperor Justinian I or Emperor Justinian II?
Yea, they considered themselves as Romans. However I do think that the Roman Empire was dead spiritually. If you've read secret history you'd know Justinian was incrediably vain about his legacy as emperor and that's the reason he made invading and taking back Rome a goal. But there's no doubt; he could never have restored the Roman empire.
Procopius was the tabloid of its time. I believe that his writings were extremely popular among the Justinianus' opponents. We may find his writings wierd and irrelevant to today but remember their audience are people almost illiterate and superstitious. The reason of the classic roman and greek ages was long gone....
Procopius was commissioned by Justinian to write his history, and he accompanied Belisarius to Africa. All of his works are positive of Justinian, save this one, which is assumed to be written by Procopius. "The reason of the classic Greek and Roman ages was long gone..." I take it you haven't read the classic Greek and Roman authors...
Fake news, started by the Western Empire media. Justinian had a face that was the handsomest of all emperors, and he most certainly did not collude with the Sassanids in order to gain power.
Because I've read a lot of Procopius because I am working on Belisarius and the riots of Byzantium, I can tell you that Procopius was telling a lot of bullshit on his Anekdota/Secret history. Justinian wasn't the greatest, but for sure he was a clever man.
He actually said that about Justinian in his book's introduction: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PehCn_3kyw4.html Which shows your bias.
As soon as i heard the word byzantium as they claim procopius writen from , i stoped watching , do you think the [ author ] of this would ever call himself or the place he lives byzantium or byzantine ? more so in this time period ? naaaaaaah b %#@shit
