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Roman Historical Coverage by Ancient Historians (753 BC - 476 AD) 

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@Gorgondantess
@Gorgondantess Год назад
Never even knew Ammianus supposedly wrote so much history and only 25 years of it survives. At least it's the part he was a firsthand witness of.
@kandam5517
@kandam5517 7 месяцев назад
that’s so sad
@thedemonhater7748
@thedemonhater7748 Год назад
Other historians: fragmentary/lost, covering centuries in between Plutarch: *casually skipping centuries between coverage*
@stsk1061
@stsk1061 Год назад
That's because he wrote the Parallel Lives, which are biographies of famous figures in history.
@TominusMaximus
@TominusMaximus Год назад
Plutarch wrote Parallel Lives, a book in which he compares Roman and Greek personas. So this is why you see all the strange skips.
@thedemonhater7748
@thedemonhater7748 Год назад
@@TominusMaximus I suppose we should be glad he at least wrote that. Still, if he had focused on a comprehensive history, I think we would be much more illuminated on the history of rome than we are right now.
@FourOf92000
@FourOf92000 Год назад
Or the book would have been viewed as not worth the trouble of copying and lost entirely
@disguysaysda4708
@disguysaysda4708 7 месяцев назад
The guy made biographies, not consistent annals.
@antoninuslarpus7107
@antoninuslarpus7107 Год назад
Ammianus's lost history _devastates_ me. Had it survived the century, we could've learned so much. We could've gotten insight in the reign of Trajan. We could've figured out the more murky details of the _Historia Augusta_ The Tetrarchy... The Reign of Constantine... Dear god, that is an awful fate and especially for such a good Author.
@tiberiuscave4617
@tiberiuscave4617 Год назад
Velleius also served as an officer of Tiberius, so Ammianus is not the only one (excluding the tribunate required by the cursus honorum).
@niccolorichter1488
@niccolorichter1488 Год назад
Polibios was a navy man wasnt he ? Procopius was Belisarius secretary so he Saw military in action Veleiuss was oficer under Tiberius Ceasar was Well Ceasar Sallust was a milary tribúne and later a Legate under Ceasar during the civil war ( but a crap one) Tacitus and Cassius Dio were senátors so they have to been a military tribúnes before that Apian had a military service as well
@antoninuslarpus7107
@antoninuslarpus7107 Год назад
@@niccolorichter1488 Procopius was Belisarius's legal advisor, I don't see any mention of him being a soldier working for the Roman Army specfially or fighting in any Battle. You are right on everything else though, ima edit this comment.
@niccolorichter1488
@niccolorichter1488 Год назад
@@antoninuslarpus7107 yeah , but i do think he mušt have Seen the army even if he personaly dint fight as he is expleining how do archers work
@FourOf92000
@FourOf92000 Год назад
when it reached "Historia Augusta (fictitious) / Ammianus (lost)" I cried
@morp9671
@morp9671 Год назад
Even without that meme called the “Historia Augusta” the fact alone that Ammianus covered almost 300 years of Roman history and roughly 90% of it is forever lost. That's legitimate ropefuel.
@alfatejpblind6498
@alfatejpblind6498 Год назад
@@morp9671And mfs still won’t call the dark ages just that
@stsk1061
@stsk1061 Год назад
The fact that so much of Livius is lost is truly a tragedy.
@aaronTGP_3756
@aaronTGP_3756 Год назад
And Ammianus. We could've had an alternative to the H*storia A*gusta.
@Famulus9
@Famulus9 Год назад
A great shame the historiography declines as the empire declines, but this was very helpful, thank you. Including Orosius and Sozomen plus other Christian historians could’ve been helpful as well.
@TominusMaximus
@TominusMaximus Год назад
It is all Ecclesial history in the Late Roman Empire which does not aim at historical accuracy.
@Famulus9
@Famulus9 Год назад
@@TominusMaximus True, but like the Historia Augustua there is some useful information that can be gleaned from these work even if they’re biased. Zosimus was a diehard pagan and his work utilizes two distinct sources, but is still valued all the same.
@alessandrogini5283
@alessandrogini5283 Год назад
​@@Famulus9 historia augusta Need archeological evidence,like the Battle of harzon when no One believe that maximinus thrax could had reached 400 km in germany..also, probably historia augusta take account even from dexippos
@Michael_the_Drunkard
@Michael_the_Drunkard Год назад
He omitted the historians of the Eastern Empire.
@Michael_the_Drunkard
@Michael_the_Drunkard Год назад
​@@TominusMaximus muh Christians lie about history
@Lordboring1478
@Lordboring1478 Год назад
The fact that the period between 237-305 has either no coverage or the Historia Augusta is so sad to watch
@Moredread25
@Moredread25 Год назад
The way we construct history is so interesting. We know more or less about eras depending on how well they're covered; it's also not the just the writings of historians we look to of course to try and find out what was happening, but without them its so much harder to put in perspective what was going on from all the other writings and physical evidence that's survived.
@Zetact_
@Zetact_ Год назад
And without 2-3 historians to compare and contrast it's way too easy for people to get a biased view. Ammianus' blatant favoritism is largely why people overrate Julian and underrate Constantius II (and Constans).
@FourOf92000
@FourOf92000 Год назад
making this into one of those big fold-out posters would be classic merch, if you want to set up a run I'd buy it
@TominusMaximus
@TominusMaximus Год назад
heh I’ll think about it
@CyberRager
@CyberRager Год назад
This is beautiful, nice work and keep it up bro!
@UntoldHistoryAnimations
@UntoldHistoryAnimations Год назад
Bro I'm studying Roman historians for a paper and this is genuinely helpful, thank you!
@tyleraragon6200
@tyleraragon6200 Год назад
I have heard that with modern and future tech the two libraries in the giant mansion estate at Herculaneum (I think) might be recoverable one day. Hopefully some lost plays at least 🙏
@alessandroboccalatte8120
@alessandroboccalatte8120 Год назад
Still on history a lot was written after the eruption so if we're lucky we might discover "only" Livy, Velleius and Dionysius
@alessandrogini5283
@alessandrogini5283 Год назад
Cassius dio did a remarkable job..good catch by Alexander severus
@MegaTang1234
@MegaTang1234 Год назад
Genuinely surprised that during the late republic Cicero wasn't included despite how much information of the era came from his letters
@TominusMaximus
@TominusMaximus Год назад
Cicero wasn't a historian.
@niccolorichter1488
@niccolorichter1488 Год назад
If letters of Cicero were included that we would have also include Letters od Seneca the younger Letters of Plinius the younger Letters of Fronto
@geenkaas6380
@geenkaas6380 9 месяцев назад
@@TominusMaximusCeasar was a historian?
@chibble3591
@chibble3591 5 месяцев назад
@@geenkaas6380first hand accounts of the Gallic and civil wars
@hridgreximp6194
@hridgreximp6194 Год назад
Historia Augusta is "definitely and totally" reliable at the beginning. Personally, I think it's a miracle that the book even got finished in the first place...
@alessandrogini5283
@alessandrogini5283 Год назад
What do you think about the Life of Alexander severus?
@hridgreximp6194
@hridgreximp6194 Год назад
@@alessandrogini5283 a textbook case of senatorial bias, “The great desire by the senate and people for Alexander”-Historia Avgvsta
@MegaTang1234
@MegaTang1234 Год назад
I wonder if we went into the byzantine if the number of sources would rise or fall.
@greatestever3479
@greatestever3479 Год назад
I'm a simple man, I hear the Imperator soundtrack, I instantly like the video
@alconomic476
@alconomic476 Год назад
Imperator Rome with the Invictus mod installed is a great game 🌿🗿🌿
@aaronTGP_3756
@aaronTGP_3756 Год назад
If only we could go back and find Ammianus' lost work. The semi-mystery of the Crisis of the Third Century could've been solved.
@filipbudzik
@filipbudzik Год назад
Five Good Emperors a n d Commodus❤️
@GAIVSCALIGVLA
@GAIVSCALIGVLA 5 месяцев назад
This deserves more views than loud fan.
@tiberiuscave4617
@tiberiuscave4617 Год назад
I don't understand why you put that Velleius' narrative for the 1st century BC is lost until ca. 45 BC and it ends up in 15 BC. Velleius' narrative actually arrives up to 29 AD (mentioning the death of Julia Augusta), and once it is reprised after the very large gap, it goes on without considerable hiatus from the 170s BC onward. There are also large chunks of Sallust' narrative left out: his lost historical work touched on the 70s and 60s BC, and his work on Catilina does have a narrative of those decades (of course, as related to Catilina's conspiracy). Livy's lost part also exist in a potted form (see the Periochae). And the Historia Augusta did have a narrative of Nerva and Trajan, and it has a gap in the 240s and 250s AD.
@alexandrejose8362
@alexandrejose8362 Год назад
Yey, the patrician is back!
@niccolorichter1488
@niccolorichter1488 Год назад
Forgot that that Plutarch is a source fór the Pyrhych war Also Plutarch wrote Life of Scipio is just lost
@mrgongo4253
@mrgongo4253 Год назад
This is beautiful
@constable117
@constable117 Год назад
Really well done video 🥰
@disguysaysda4708
@disguysaysda4708 2 месяца назад
we have Eutropius to comfort us
@MouroaCiccinati
@MouroaCiccinati Год назад
Name of the music?
@alconomic476
@alconomic476 Год назад
Soundtrack of Imperator Rome. Play it with the Invictus mod installed 🌿🗿🌿
@morp9671
@morp9671 Год назад
I know I'm 3 months late but the two songs specifically are Imperator: Rome's Nightwatch & Oceanus from the base game soundtrack. Also Terra-Indomita is a superior mod because you can play as China.
@backtonovember5306
@backtonovember5306 Год назад
Good shit
@laughsatchungus1461
@laughsatchungus1461 Год назад
Where is seneca or augustine
@ikengaspirit3063
@ikengaspirit3063 Год назад
Now do for the superior Eastern half.
@chadd4323
@chadd4323 Год назад
worse half
@Jeyeyeyey
@Jeyeyeyey Год назад
"superior" half whose biggest achievement was a millenium long vegetation lmao
@ikengaspirit3063
@ikengaspirit3063 Год назад
@@Jeyeyeyey And what was the greatest achievement of the West?. A Century long technological stagnation?. At least the Byzantines invented new things and had new applications for older things.
@haxel8929
@haxel8929 Год назад
@@Jeyeyeyey And the western half?One century of puppets before going down with a whimper?Also I wouldnt call a millenium of war, inventions and arhitectural marvels as vegetation.Maybe in the last centuries.But then again, the western half didn t last nearly that long.
@Michael_the_Drunkard
@Michael_the_Drunkard Год назад
​​@@Gfimigffmbsgyaeuok That sounds like a lot of copium. Constantine and all other emperors after him see it differently.
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