Roman Republic Vs Macedonian Empire: Battle of Pydna 168 BC | Cinematic 

From what I understood, Perseus was a vassal king with permission from the Roman Republic. The Romans were enraged by his growing independence and actions and despite his protestations of loyalty, Rome declared war on him knowing full well that Macedonia has no chance.

Thanks for your interesting contribution. Where can I find out more information about Alexander's campaigns?

in this battle Roman Cavalry decimated macedon left wing force of peltast and Cavalry tho like the video said.make Romans can initiate pincer attack, also The Macedon army kinda have low moral because of Lunar Eclipse before while lucius tell their man is just nature phenomenon also He choose uneven terrain knowing is phalanx weakness. the battle clearly favor to roman side i believe

This is the first time that I have heard about this change. It would explain the outcome of this and other battles. May I ask you where this information is from? Is there any historical source?

@@andresalphie5400 You can find descriptions of them in Historical Literature but it will require some digging and it's not light reading. If your looking for something without citation, more of a reader friendly book that talks on them briefly I highly recommend Ghost on the Throne.

@@andresalphie5400 The author of Ghost on Throne includes citations I'm pretty sure, it's been a bit since I read it. Perhaps one of those specifically references them. I've been nerding out the Macedonian and Diadochi Conflicts my whole life so over time I pick up this bits and pieces of information. I remember when Rome 2 dropped I was disappointed because the closest thing to the Hypaspists we got were those Royal Peltasts unit which were a later adaptation from the Diadochi Wars. True Hypaspists from Philips and Alexanders time were basically Elite Hoplites that would fight with a Sword and sometimes throw their main Spear when things got dicey in combat but otherwise were traditionally like a Hoplite in open Battle, if a Night Assault or Fortress Assault took place they dropped their Heavy Hoplite Armor for Lighter Armor. They became such Elite Shock Troopers that Alexander covered their Shields in Silver before marching into India. They were the best of the best, the first Professional Army in recorded History.

this is rome 2 you know that

​@@pa5287 I think he means that it TWR 2 or 1

@@pa5287 He might just be that young..

​@@pa5287hey not everyone who plays game is a fossil

who said im a fossil @@loowick4074

More to come!

Да,это точно,мы бы с нашей физ подготовкой бы быстро от усталости свалились🤔

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@ZoomerStasi First of all: Those Sarissa bearers always had a secondary weapon. What counts most here at such flight is speed and a cumbersome 5 meters long spear designed to be used in a formation will certainly not help much in self defense or single combat. So yes, we can assume most of them would throw away that weapon.

In reality they left their sarissa while they retreat.

@ZoomerStasi What is your comment supposed to tell us, mate ? That you have a problem with German people, referring to them with an acronym from long gone times ? Or that you have no clue about history at all as Macedonians were no Greeks, in fact they were even despised and considered barbarians by the Greeks at those times.

​@ZoomerStasiGreeks haven't been relevant since before Jesus was born 😂. How many empires have trampled Greece over these years? Turks, Romans, Macedonians

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Thank you!

Compared to modern battles this is nothing

@@Bryce911 Correct. As states solidified, becoming more centralized, organized, and populations larger, the armies they fielded became bigger. Drives up the casualties. Technology advanced, artillery, air power, guns, etc. made things worse. Industrialization from the 18th made it even worse as devastating weapons could be produced on a larger scale. Artillery and air power evolved and could cause casualties at a distance. European warfare in the 17th and 18th centuries became larger, costlier. The Napoleonic Wars turned the notch up as conscription was being used for mass levies. The Battle of Nations in 1813 had over 500k men in this 3 day battle, producing 110k killed, excluding wounded and captured. The 19th century brought technological advancements, making it far worse, eventually leading into what we'd see with World War I. And if WWI wasn't enough, The Sequel would take place 2 decades later with even more horrific deaths. Another big difference from ancient, classical warfare to 20th century warfare was that the older form of war was centered around cataclysmic, decisive, single battles that typically happened in one day, a matter of hours if even that. This key battle would determine the result of the campaign. 20th century warfare still had that, but it's battles could be drawn out to several days, several weeks, or even several months, producing endless agony. Even worse, states could absorb horrific battle results better than before, and keep on fighting. The Roman Republic absorbing the insane losses Hannibal inflicted on them during the Second Punic War, yet still insist on fighting was unheard of for that time. Tradition was something like 1-2 bad losses like what the Romans suffered would bring anyone to sue for peace. That the Romans refused, had the population and allied support to absorb those losses and keep on fighting dumbfounded the brilliant Hannibal, a problem he could never solve. But with modern wars with larger, centralized states, consolidated power, organization, losses could be absorbed easily and armies reformed, sent to the grinder. The Roman exception of the ancient world became the norm in modern warfare.

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Both terms are viable, “Makedon” to describe the faction and “Macedon” to describe the soldiers/citizens

Macedonia is in English makedonia is in greek

Makedon is the Greek word. The english word is Macedon. It is simbly a tranclation

Translation or not, be consistent. One or the other.

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As it was meant to be

sorry to inform you that the romans were quick to become hellenized

​@@spyridon3089 Hercules is the reason

​@@spyridon3089 😂😂 Best joke of the day

The horses got scared probably.

If your a student of History you'll notice that the Macedonians were missing a key component of their winning formula Alexander used to conquer the World. The Hypaspists. These were the Silver Shields in Alexander's time and they were flexible Hoplite Styled Swordsmen who fought on the flanks of the Sarissa Phalanx and prevent it from being enveloped. After the Diadochi Wars took place with Death of Alexander these troops types fell out favor in place of an emphasis on Pike Warfare because of the Hellenistic Civil War. Hypaspists were more expensive to equip and train, and thus were neglected if not outright abandoned as a troop type in later centuries. This is why when the debate of Roman vs Macedonian Armies comes up often you will hear some mention that the later Macedonian Armies that Rome fought were hollow shells of their former glory, far less adapted to combined arms warfare. These late Macedonians Armies were nothing like Alexander's, just a shadow of the former. They had lost their combined arms approach to warfare, so when faced with a non-Hellenistic foe they suffered greatly.

He was rookie in total war battles, lol.

Because this guy is an idiot

1) they did so to buy time for main army 2) when the Romans charged down the Macedonian started charging them. By turning around the Macedonian thought they were retreating and pushed harder. It's more exertion going uphill so by the time they engaged the Macedonians would've been tired on top of the phalanx being broken.

Always greek you bulgaroski trash 😂

It's possible but very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very rare

@@sumitkharbanda4565 I don't doubt that 25,000 Macedonians had died at Pydna because the Romans were about 45,000 like Macedonians, so if half the Romans had killed all those Macedonians, I guess by the same logic, 45,000 Macedonians would have killed more than 100 Romans during the whole battle. Ofcourse, much less than 25000 but not only 100. It seems impossible.

I agree with you. However, the actual accurate description of events is lost to time. The 'generalizations' are accurate (i.e. the Romans won), but the details are lost to bias of the author and his sources.

In this battle macedonia have more troops them romans 43 thousend greeks and 38 thousend romans

@@aryankhan3619 roman also had 25 or 20 elephants while the macedons have 0..the macedonian army also made up to 20k phalangites while the other 20k is levy troops from macedons, so its pretty much 20k phalangites will do the heavy fighting against veteran roman allied army..so when it comes to quality soldier in that battle the roman side probly had more quality troops than the macedon 20k phalangites, the phalangites were elite but the other half of its force are levy-farmer soldiers.

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Ok then. You are forgiven, but only reluctantly.

@@1167400 Thanks very much. Ill let everyone know 🤣

Which one?

@@WarAndHistory. every music

😂😂nice joke bukgaroski why don't you offer us your proof ?

There are thousands of proves that macedonians are greeks BUT i will say none! I will say only one prove! The prove that will hurts you the most! Alexander the Great HIMSELF said to his letter to Darius "MACEDONIA AND THE REST OF GREECE". Alexander the great HIMSELF SAID IT!!! Does it hurts Monkey from fake north macedonia??? Does it hurts you? I hope it does and i am sure it does!

say what lol?

Yes. It is....

More complicated than that. Duty, honor, social expectations, knowledge of what would happen to your wives and daughters if you didn't fight from the foreigner. Pay could be good too. Not to mention you might not know your ruler is 'bad'. His policies might have made your rough life a little easier: why would you care if he was 'bad'? People had less free time back then and concerned themselves more with their immediate situation.

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@1167400 Damn bro the guy even put in captions “Cavalry” and you over here venting like it’s the end of the world… sad society it is

Sheesh where’s your RU-vid videos buddy?

Are you 6? What a dick...

​@@caesar9414 nothing sad about society at all, just criticism. If he can write 'cavalry' he can say it properly. As I wrote, his verbal commentary was accurate, but his diction and cinematic rendition was not.

However, there was pride and discipline. What unit commander would want his troops to look like trash? In this battle, the Macedonians were on home soil, so they would look pretty good, but smell like skunks, haha! The Romans would be even more ripe, but their kit would be good or their commander would be sacked!