Romans vs Barbarians as Player 8 

It was me who uploaded it to DE because i wanted to play it on DE lol. Tried to find it first but i couldn’t so instead i converted it. Thanks for the cred Spirit love your channel.

May I suggest changing some colours ? Western Empire - red Eastern Empire - purple Franks - blue Huns - grey

I subbed 2 years ago bc of your romans vs Barbarians map. I thought this day would never come

I don't see the problem with an agressive Roman player, that was always the Roman strategy.

11:10 Assault them with knowledge :DDDDDDD

Same issue as the last one. The 2 Roman players need to have at least 300 pop cap.

I remember in your version that you let the romans to advance the imperial age, but obviously disabling some techs

This map does look cool but I would be extremely curious what a Roman victory looks like. It "feels" like they don't really have a strong enough starting advantage and being blocked from doing stone walls means delaying is a lot harder and the timer is very long, considering.

15:41 "Furthermore, I consider that Carthage must be destroyed" - Cato the Censor (234-149 BC), politician of the Roman Republic

One of the huns could also be a cuman or bulgarian now for variety's sake. Also having stone walls in Spain and Carthage could be justified to avoid snipes. While snipes are great plays, they might leave the Roman player feeling a beat powerless or sour as they are a bit cheap way to win in this scenario.

I want to see pro players playing It.

Like i said previously, the romans are extremely vulnerable from Water attack. I played this maps multiple of times on the HD version (on both side) Romans never won simply due to the Longboats. I even hard counter Water once as the roman but the ground armies literraly stepped on me like butter. They need to invest a lot on water to simply counter the Longboats. But when doing so, they have a lot less ground units (due to the pop cap) to hold down the massive spam of units from the huns and goths (remember, there is 5 Players spamming units at them, assuming Orange is water focus) Most Roman players will focus on the massive raids from the Goth and Huns players and ignore water (due to the lack of Stone Wall to slow/hold them down). Once the Viking show up with his Longboats army its already too late to build a navy to counter them. They will just crush everything on their path. A good way to balance this, would be to either: - Give the Roman a much stronger coastal defences with unique towers that specialize at destroying ships to slow down the viking attack on water. (The ideal one) - Or, replace the viking by another civs. (The Rough one) - Or place 1-2 Capitals out of water reach. (The: Im not convinced by this one. After losing 60% of your ECO income not much more you can do afterward to hold that massive ground army) Other than that, games is fun to play early. Or when barbarians hard focus ground and ignore water. Good job SotL!!

Why'd you use the pillaged Arc of Constantine as the Wonder for both Rome and Byzantium? I get the idea for Rome, although there's an undamaged one available (probably what you meant with the new scenario editor options), but why not use the Hagia Sofia for Byzantium?

How about reskinning the long swordsmen as the legionnaire unit and reskinning knights as centurions in scenario editor for the romans so they stand out more and have a cool visual difference. I guess it could be making the scenario more harder as players would have to remember that what was reskinned but it’s just an idea if your thinking of updating it.

Very cool map! Seems the Romans need to castle/tower the water choke points so the sneak transport can't get through, otherwise have a navy. Didn't hear if the Romans had a higher pop cap, but that might help and make sense. Otherwise, really great idea, I love realish scenarios. Can't wait to get a puter that'll play DE.

Dude...don't leave out the intro, seriously. It's too good.

6:35 Wtf ?! I never played the map tho it looks interesting... but I was under the impression that stone walls were disabled for EVERYONE, not just the romans... this feels both weird (seeing the barbarians with more "civilized" buildings) and imba

This map should be on enormous size !

Emperor Chicago: "Hey, why don't we just yeet the legions that way?"

Romans feel underpowered

loved this video!! you joined my Romans vs. Barbs lobby 3 years ago and it was the highlight of my AoE LIFE. so excited to play this scenario again in DE (and pshh who knows, maybe we'll be graced with your presence again)!

I haven't really played Age of Kings in 15 years, but I've been enjoying your videos lately. It has been entertaining catching up on a game I loved, seeing how it's progressed and how much it's stayed the same. This is exactly the kind of map I would have loved back in the day; sadly AoK was a bit more complicated for me to figure out that competing Starcraft custom maps. Seeing the buildings named after the closest Roman town, I salute your attention to detail. Look forward to watching this, as well as more of your work.

Can you do a video series on scenario editor trigger and conditions and effects. I think that would be a great series to do. And your explanations would hit the nail on the head

They added Roman Legionaries as units in DE, they're like Champions stat-wise with less attack but more armor. Maybe you can add that as a unique unit to the Western Romans instead of the Teutonic Knights.

Love the videos my man!

I love this, would love to see other matches in this scenario!

One way to incentivice the Roman players to not just turtle behind a single settlement but defend their whole empire would be to set the game timer a lot lower like 30min, but increase it by 10min everytime a capital falls.

So Spirit, say, can you make Romans vs. Barbarians but with 2 new AI’s (playing as the romans) and 6 old AI’s (playing as the barbarians) and give the old AI’s a few bonuses?

Crazy- I just found your channel last week, and found your Rome custom map video earlier this week. Since then I've been pining for more, and here you are with an upload right on time... Serendipitous to be sure

Great work!

Way chiller than T90 and no shitty jokes. good content dood.

2:20 Carthago, have usable farmland. Hmmmmmmm Somewhere in Rome: "We need to go back, someone didn't do their job properly!"

I subbed because of your original Romans vs Barbarians map.

Hey Spirit, I love your vids. Plz make more Gameplay vids :)

Spirit: Hey guys, there's a version of a senario I made in HD that someone translated to DE with minimal changes. 90% of comments: BARBARIANS OP! ROMANS NEED *insert buff here*. WHY ISN'T IT ON A BIGGER MAP WITH UNITS THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE IN HD?! REEEEEE!

I just realized you put Lugdunum on the spot where Paris would be. But Lugdunum is actually Lyon, and its position actually matches the stables just above Rome haha

17:54 A true raider, Spirit! WHAT IS DEAD MAY NEVER DIE!!! ⚔🏹

Spiiiiiiiriiiiiit. Always great content.

Merry Christmas Spirit :-)

Rookie mistake by Red to allow ANYONE through the Bosphorus and into the Mediterranean. If that had not happened they might have won the game.

I'd love to see a bunch of these.

Just started watching you, wish I had found you earlier. Good stuff 👍.

Can’t wait for the next video

Excellent Choice!

This is exactly what i love about Age of Empires.

besides the naval attack at the end that game was pretty accurate. rome pushing out then breaking later on.

I was really pro roman watching this! The audacity of being super aggressive at the start was great.

What happens with all 8 as AI?

More of this please

You need to enable walls. And convince fatslob to play as roman

Awesome vedios man........keep posting

YES, I LOVE THIS SCENARIO!

Dang, it seems like the Vikings get to be om vacation the whole time until they've made all their yachts. Lol

Spirit of the law doesn't want to box people into a particular strategy yet wants to remove the Romans having the ability to build Siege.

it would also be very cool an scenario for the holy roman empire era, now that we have the new civs: teutons vs lithuanians, franks vs britons, byzantines vs bulgarians, and mongols vs all

Thanks， love this scenario

This is pretty cool. I'd love to try this someday!

Thanks spirit that was a gg man I was red was first time playing scenario I look forward to retrying gg man

that was fun to watch

2015. Holy Christ. Time flies 😱

You want romans to be defensive but you disable building stone walls? :D

Could you use a bigger map size for the third version of this map?

Legend

SotL do you think you will update it with the new triggers in DE? eg have roman building legionaries/centurion like in the new goth campaign?

Taking away the 1 and 2's ability to stone wall, you're pretty much forcing them to go aggresive and rush the barbarins down. Much like your DE AI vs the CD AI, staying defensive is not an option because the enemy just has that much more space to grow. At the moment in the DE this doesn't fell like the "fall of the Western Roman Empire", but more like "can you raid further than the Romans ever dared, in time to stop Huns from creating a city empire on the steppes."

This scenario is so cool, but when I played western romans I got beat a lot like this had two people destroy three of my town centers in less than 30 seconds

cool idea

You need to put more scenario editor-only building into your next version.

Is it possible to replace the models of the teutonic knights with those legionary models(aoe 1 conversions) from the Alaric campaign? Would make it that more immersive.

Transports op. Either ban or limit to 5 troop capacity. I would ban every other barbarian civ, except the vikings with long boats only, from having attack ships. Pretty cool scenario. I like that the Romans have some fight in them in the early game.

In your new AI vs old AI video, you said that the single player (or the team of 2 in the followup video) need to be aggressive and try to whittle down the enemies because they won't win in 200v1400 or 400v1200. Why does that change here? Is it because it's easier to destroy the capitals than being taken out normally, because the barbarians are more grouped up and harder to eliminate, a combo of both, or some other factor(s)?

I dont even olay AOEII since 2007 No fucking joke.. But is still addictive to watch these videos. Imma Download AOEII once I get a PC again and play some.

I think having rome be able to build new stuff is fair play though especially when you as rome go aggressive early and keep it up.

Looking forward to the Roman side now :)

Viking Longboats sailed into the Mediterranean Sea and sacked Rome through naval blockade Sounds historically accurate

An old video without your intro? 25! 40!

That can't be Lugdunum (modern day Lyon), too far North. I think it's Lutecia (modern day Paris). Although it would make more sense to have Lugdunum as a capital, it would be way too close to Rome.

Oh yes, I had completely forgotten about how the barbarians naval superiority was the reason for the crumbling of the roman empire.

Have you tried playing Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds? It's basically AoE2 with air and anti-air units basically, and the sheep version called Nerfs can be put inside a building that automatically gives you food very quickly to the point it's a very powerful building for resources, cool stuff.

"assault them with knowledge". This guy 🤣

Don't worry, Rome wasn't destroyed in a single Christmas.

A castle wouldnt save those 2 TC's from that many tarkans either way. No idea how yr supposed to protect those 2 towns in the back without a navy and very good micro

I'd say there needs to be a castle or 2 next to every roman town center and make romans start imp and maybe disable gunpowder units if possible for realism

Maybe it is possible if one player leaves to distribute the population caps equal to the other barbarian players.

I would like to know how to do the mod transfer from HD to DE 🤔

PLEASE HELP!! My game Age of Empires II- DE, wont even update or install in Microsoft Store. I bought the game and redeemed code, but with recent update, it just says error whether I update or try installing.

I think all capitals should start stone walls and better defence.

Have you considered utilizing the Legionary and Mounted Legionary seen in the Alaric campaign?

It would be cool if the scenario would involve more diplomacy: i.e. certain automatic or semi-automatic triggers which might turn certain barbarian factions hostile against eachother or west & east roman empire hostile (this would reflect e.g. the many instances in real history where a 'usurper' takes the imperial throne on one of the two sides and the other side doesn't agree).

Cool map

If the eastern Romans are involved you need to add Bulgarians. So much “fun” history there.

6:30 I would have thought something like the Goth Bonus would be usable to transfer the Population Cap Maximum. But I guess those figures were hardcoded?

I can suggest an idea You could build a weird structure out of walls and Each time you click the wall 60 gold is deducted from your stockpile A legionary appears We are making it historically accurate

Spirit, when are you going to cover Age of Empires 2 on Playstation 2? I'd love to see you try and maneuver around that mess.

i hope you make v.3 with the romans being abel to recrute legionaris and centurion for the romans as well of giving the captitals momuments the fitt a bit more, the barbarians should be able to make the norse footman, you know so it's more fitting :) but it locks very nice :) edit ; dos it work with ai only players? or one player and the rest ai?

Can you add a video of a roman victory, i really wonder what it looks like

Could red and blue team up to take out grey early? Make it 2v5 instead of 2v6?

New AOE so stupid question. How do I download and play this scenario? It looks awesome.

More!

time to update this with the actual roman civ!