Great video that amply covers how the Crosby Chime was fist used in the UK. I have an original US made pre - war type Crosby Chime and having done much research on this subject - covered in an article I wrote for Steam World in 2016 - I can confirm that the whistle on 'Winston Churhill' is indeed the example that Howey brought from Canada. It's measurements, internally of each 'organ pipe', are the same as my early whistle but differ from the later, post war, British manufactured Tri - Tone Whistles ( fitted to the A4, Britannia, Standard 5, Clan and Duke ) which internally are marginally shorter therefore giving the slightly higher tone. I might just make a correction, the Howey whistle gifted to Gresley was fitted to P2 2001 not the first A4 close examination of images of the day of the example on 2001 confirms it to be the same as that on 'Winston Churchill', with the built in valve which is used on 'Chuchill' but blanked off on 2001. Hope that helps.
From the sound of it, typhoon or winston churchill is now carrying the chime Duke of Gloucester had in the 90s. The dukes chime is now higher in pitch.
Churchill still has her original Crosby chime that Howey bought in Canada. I was told that Typhoon had a Britannia whistle (fitted in the last few years). I've never seen a Brit in steam but the sound of the whistles on RU-vid is much more shrill than Typhoon's. Logically the Duke would have a similar whistle and if her previous one was deeper you may be on to something if it's now on Typhoon.
@@plesbit ah interesting. Yeah if you listen to vids of the duke from when she was freshly back in steam in the 80s/90s, there’s a striking similarity in pitch to typhoons, less shrill and more rounded
Can I just say when kids cover they ears don’t get me wrong it’s loud but I get very annoyed because one time I was recording typhoon and this kid when he covered his ears he was blocking my camera other than that great video!!!!
No 8 (2:53) is a pre-war A4 whistle, given to Captain Howey (who built the railway) by Gresley. They were an American design, made in the US. The A4's mostly lost their chimes during WWII (apparently sounded too much like air raid sirens) and the removed whistles mostly melted down for other use. After the war they decided to return the distinctive sound and a new batch of UK made whistles were made - but they sounded slightly different. No 10 (2:57 is one of these whistles - it once lived on Commonwealth Of Australia. No 9 (6:49) is one of the original Crosby chimes that started it all. Howey brought back two Crosby's from Canada but gave one of them to Gresley - thus introducing Gresley to the chime whistle and giving rise to his decision to put chimes on the A4s. He kept the other and put it on no 9 where it still lives. So essentially no 9 is the forerunner to the A4 whistle on no 8 and the later variant on no 10 as well the even later BR version on no 7. Sorry - bit of geekery for you.
Wiki's reads that (Class P2) No. 2001 "Cock O' The North" was given a Crosby chime from Howey to Gresley. Could it have sounded like No. 7's or No. 9's whistle?
