LOL, I was listening to this album on the way home from work today. Volume all the way up, windows all the way down. The first time I heard this album was 2002 and I've listened to it ever since then. Much love.
There's almost nothing that's truly futuristic anymore. The future is cancelled, and the past twenty years have just been nailing the lid of the coffin on. The best we can manage these days is hauntology; retro-futurism. Grimes' music essentially could have come out before she was born.
Watched at Glastonbury in 97, some tent, in a field somewhere on planet earth apparently. Body was there, mind wasn't. Still the best live set I ever witnessed 👍
Saw Roni Size live at Alexandra Palace on New Years 97, it was absolutely mind blowing. Incredible times, all the jungle and DNB heads back then we’re ahead of the game. Met Roni a few times at Movement at Bar Rumba, always safe as, proper gent. And to think we did all that without iPhones, likes and the internet 😁😁😁
I remember seeing this on TV, late at night. I'd never heard live drum and bass before and was totally blown away. Amazed to find it on here. Thank you
I remember You had to wait up till 12 O Clock to watch this. It was Brilliant and look at the Equipment they were using. And those Computers as well. Amazing at the time. Roni Did Reprazent as well.
This is sooo good. Clive Deamer, amazing drummer. Altough Jungle/DnB wasn't brand new in 97 anymore, the cool thing about that era was that you had the feeling of actually witnessing the creation of new sounds, different scenes melting together while even the mainstream acknowledging it pretty much in real time (instead of being 5-10 years too late as usual :-)
I remember seeing his live performances on tv. (Im american.lol) and thinking "this is what its like"...then digging more. I learned, the performances, the group, were NEVER done like this and this is unique and special. Fuckers set the bar. And rarely had it been met. This record influenced me more than i realized. I remember it randomly and i havent heard it in over 10 years. Listened to new forms last night. God damn...i remember the inspiration that flew out of my speakers and into my brain. Whats great about these songs.. The dance the line of complex and understood. You can dismantle sone of the tracks. Part by part. Then they switch it up to "how did they..." Shit was accessible and pushed the line of unreal. Fucking love it.
american also, picked up New Forms in high school from a used CD shop, huge influence on me. I knew it was largely sample-based, but what I never appreciated until I found this was that the dude actually assembled a band.
if you want to look in a slightly different direction, check out Philly rapper Bahamadia, who did that amazing cut up flow on "New Forms." She's really good.
@@pulseczar42 _New_ _Forms_ was never sample-based tho, unlike the vast majority of dnb. That's part of what made it such an exciting, unique, and human album. The same guys seen playing the drums and bass live here actually recorded their parts in a studio for the album. Si and Clive are fantastically talented. New Forms (alongside Adam F, who was doing similar things with _Circles_ at the same time) was a groundbreaking template for dnb as "real" instrumental band music that could actually be played live. They prefigured Pendulum's live era shift by a decade. Prophetic, prescient album. It is really cool to hear about Americans experiencing dnb in the '90s though, when it was, as a phenomenon, overwhelmingly still confined to its British homeland. I suppose it makes sense that _New_ _Forms_ spread, even if the genre didn't, since that album in particular became a media and critical darling, But I'm still somewhat surprised both of you were able to randomly find it in a US record store at that time!
@@sheilaburrowes9081 That's interesting, thanks. I had the impression that the musicians recorded takes in studio, then RS sampled and looped from there. I believe Portishead did something similar, cutting their own vinyls which were then used in the live performances. Amon Tobin has also worked this way I think? I'll check out Adam F, sounds familiar. Cheers.
@@pulseczar42 Oh okay, you're not far off the mark then. It's somewhere in the middle, in my understanding. I've read that they did loop _some_ amount of the drums and bass (and other instrumentation) but not to the extent that most electronic acts (like Pendulum, for example) do it, where they go into the studio with an instrumentalist, like, say, a drummer, and just get him to do a bunch of single hits -- and maybe a few four bar perc loops if they're feeling ambitious. And then they lay those beats down as quantised samples, thus losing most of the value of a human performing the actions in the first place. I think RS recorded entire phrases to capture all of the slight variations in e.g. the bass loop each time. That, to me, is more than mere sampling, but it still will've been more systematised than a "real" band going in and playing a full song (albeit with separated instruments) -- though I'm not sure how often they even do that anymore. It's probably a bunch of phrase-by-phrase repetition and punch-ins. Man, it's a far cry from back in the '70s when when huge artists like Status Quo were releasing amazing albums (a world class album every year from '71 to '76 inclusive is just an incredible workrate) recorded with the whole band playing in the same room at the same time, with only slight post overdubbing. It created a ton of mixing and mastering problems, as you can imagine, with loads of bleed over between mics, but those processes weren't terribly advanced yet anyway and it created fascinating dynamics that you can't get any other way (and for Quo specifically, that was a huge part of their proto-punk sound). Amazing coincidence that you mentioned Portishead, btw, since the drummer here (Clive forget-his-second-name) also did a bunch of work with them, including _Dummy_ of all things. IDK if you knew that already and that's why you were using them as an example but if not, that's an awesome coincidence. As for Adam F, he was another visionary producer doing stuff in that jazzy, V Recordings style (in combination with an avid interest in hip hop techniques) before becoming a lot more commercial, as most of them did, in the '00s. Essential tracks include "Brand New Funk", which IIRC he performed with a full band, like RS, back in the late '90s. Bizarrely, like this RS performance, a lot of the live stuff is super-obscure and hard to find (except even more so since Adam F didn't have a media darling, Mercury Prize-winning album behind him). Edit: I just realised that the "Brand New Funk" single was actually _on_ V Recordings, so I guess it really was part of their sound. If you're ever looking for more dnb in that sort of style, that would be the label to check out. Some of the more modern stuff, despite lacking the human touch, is still phenomenal, like Savage Rehab's little-known gem "Walk the Bass" (well worth checking out as another double bass riff-heavy tune; if you do, let me know what you think!). Take care, mate. :)
Thanks for uploading it in the first place! It's crazy how you've found it once again after all this time. Edit - or maybe 4+ years ago. Hope you're good
I recall this simul-broadcast like it was yesterday. I’d heard about Roni through a friend in Bristol. I was about to head to bed and I heard this..... then.... I saw it.... musical epiphany is a fucking understatement.
jaw dropped to the ground, heart's on fire, body be movin', I've seen this like a few times now and still everytime I come back to check it out the whole thing straight slaps me in my face so hard I just sit here almost crying of joy thinking to myself ... how could these people bring this to life just like that ?!?! this shit is incredible, no words can express really ... talkin' 'bout the power of music.
RIP Danny G..DJ Chillim, I still listen to this with our daughters remember dancing round the living room on this night love and miss you Jungalist soilder forever✌1 love J x
I used to busk sax in Bristol and Ronnie stopped by an invited me to come and record stuff. But I was cynical about street guys embroiling me into tedious afternoons where nothing happened but time wasting, so I said yes ok £40 per hour. And he never contacted me. Year later, 97 he won Mercury Music Prize. And I sailed off alone to west Africa, glad I outpriced him!
Lo ubicación geográfica y la percepción del tiempo están estrechamente relacionadas. Incluso esto puede ser el futuro para muchas personas. Welcome back to The future.
Thanks for upping this! I have this on audio cassette, as it was broadcast on radio 1 at the same time if i remember right??...but not seen the video since 97...cheers!
So i get home one night pissed looking for something to watch. Soul boy dismissing anything but soul. Just catch the introduction. Yeah, brit drum and bass blah blah blah. This album has stayed with me forever since. It was this performance.
