@@Kilb-ill True but when you mention this film only a small group of people understand what you are talking about. Frankenheimer was using the same filming techniques he used in Grand Prix in 1966 even though he had blue/green screen and early CGI technology available and current directors could learn from this as he really did nail the you are in the car feel. This was near the end of Frankenheimer's life and I think he went out with a bang with a timeless piece that will be remarked on for many years to come.
Ronin has got some of the best car chases ever put to film. No greenscreen, no CGI nonsense. All the actors have performed theses car chases for real. Even the other car chase on the wrong side of the highway was all done for real. Very underrated action movie.
This movie was robbed for some Oscar nomination for at least editing, sound mixing and sound, just like mission impossible fallout. This movie has aged so well, the editing is utterly brilliant and the car chase are phenomenal
Greatest car chase movie ever made if you ask me. Not just one incredible chase, but two. It's amazing how the two chases are both about ten minutes long, and yet neither ever feels repetitive.
I really like how the sound of the engines is more prominent than the music. That sound (sorta like a very clean, mechanical roar, maybe?) makes me feel the sense of speed. It also sounds very high-performance, for a lack of a better term. Like the sound those cars should be making in a high-speed chase.
Best thing is, the car chase is somewhat accurate. The hydropneumatic suspension of the XM might even have worked fending off the mighty S8 on windy gravel roads. Mr. Frankenheimer did his research :)
Will be 20 years after about 9 months this movie was made, watched this chase scene countless times but still one of the best chase & gunfight scene ever made.
Probably they tried to synthetically create tire smoke, there are other issues with the special effects and consistency as well viz. when Sam(Robert De Niro) fires the RPG at the Peugeot escort car at 1:52 there is a considerable time gap between it being fired and the shell hitting the car, still the shell was not seen(but it should have been), what happened to the headlamps of the Audi S8 at 3:29 then again it is in one piece later, how did so many bullet holes ended up on right side of the last Peugeot escort car at 6:44, if those are bullet exit holes how come both entry holes and exit holes looks same.
More than 20 years on, what I fondly and distinctly love about this movie is that highly orgasmic sound of engine revs and shifts. Never been done better in any other movie.
The best thing about that scene is that the filmmakers knew that. When they show the closeup of the array of fish it's like the director is saying "Yes, you know what's about to happen"
Watching this when i was in 4th grade, seeing those European beauty on wheels made me prematurely hits puberty. One of most iconic car chase scene in cinema, imho
Of all these machine guns, sub machine guns, rocket launchers, Grenade launchers, you gotta admit Vincent with that Barretta is a total badass. In the whole movie he’s making the wins with just that.
That last stunt was freaking bananas. Plowing those two cars into the seated diners, who are scrambling to get out of the way, was a perfect pop to end the chase. I only wish it wasn't so glaringly obvious that she's the only one in a studio for her shots.
Whole movie is made of beautiful car chase scenes, with realistic sounds and car abilities (XM vs S8). They did overhype the abilities in Paris 406 HDI vs E34 M5 scene, but still amazing. They don't make them like this no more. My favourite forever I guess :D
@@ericpappageorgiou182 correct it was the V6 Auto irl and the E34 was really a 530i even then they’d never wreck a real M5 as they were too valuable it’s just 4 cylinder sounds were used not sure if the M5 had actual M5 sounds or just a 30i
"Gregor fucked us!" My goodness, this is just the pinnacle of action film making. I truly love this movie. It really doesn't get much better than this. Now I have to go watch the whole thing...again!
@@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor dude you have no idea how good those Citroen engines and suspensions are - do you know they used hydro pneumatic suspension Citroens to film horse races? Dakar rally as well. Those old buggers are also perfectly capable of driving with a flat tire.
It’s a movie. The S8 had 320hp, 410n-m of torque versus the XM’s 210hp, 267n-m of torque. The S8 was approximately 400 pounds heavier. On a track, the Xm is no match for a D2 S8.
That car being blown up by the grenade launcher was so cool! They destroyed 80 cars making this movie. One of my favorite movies! Outstanding cast, script & I love the European backdrop.
The thing I love about this car chase is they aren't fancy sports cars. Just cars u see on every day roads and the s ene itself is amazingly well done..best chase scene in any film in my opinion.
exciting shootout, watching Robert DeNiro first immobilise a car with a grenade launcher then waste a bunch of idiots with a SiG 550 and Jean Reno with his reliable Beretta...plus a great car chase and great music!!!
Now they dont even bother to travel to real location to film. They simply green screen it For example in the 2000s and before. If part of your movie happen in Paris. You would had to move there and film the scenes Now they simply green screen the location in their big studio 😂 I think now only Tom Cruise do stuff the old way. And its part of the reason why mission impossible movies were a giant sucess in the 2010s
1:24 Citroen logo was in the middle of the car 2:25 Citroen logo was in the right of the car and 3:46 the Citroen logo was in the middle of the car again... 1995 Citroen XM turn to a 1989 model and turned into 1995 model again....
That Citroen XM sounds like a Honda NSX for some reason especially at 1:21 surprised no one else has mentioned it and the Audi S8 sounds like it has a V6 when its a V8
I just watched that several times and totally agree, definitely some animated smoke. Seen this movie many times and never noticed that! Good catch. Still amazing maneuvers from the driver's.
0:55 This almost feels like a scene from a Naked Gun movie… Jean casually moving out of frame while two bystanders get shot to death right behind him 🤭
did somebody notice that they used 2 different XM's at the same scene? at 00:01:24 there's a Phase II but then at 00:02:25 it's a Phase I at least they had the same plate
I can see a skilled stunt driver pull this off, those old Sels pack a punch even in weaker spec motor and have very good brakes/suspension. Performance/Presence qualities is what made these famous with dictators. Scene looks rather authentic in motion/not yanked. Smoke on the other hand.....
I love this movie, watch it at least once a year since it came out. It does bug me that nobody shoots the windscreen of the target Citroen when it’s still at the lights. Still, it’s funny how it’s Germany vs France in the cars, and Germany wins. I’m from Australia and like cars from every country.
At 7:13 when Reno back the Benz out of the spot and does a totally unnecessary 180 and then speeds off, absolutely stunning maneuver, no CGI needed, just pure talent!
2:13 when you look back and see that your escorting Peugeots are gone and an Audi S8 suddenly pops out in your chase while you are in a Citroën, it's when you know you are screwed.
+Brian Mak...And that "Real" car is the Mercedes Benz 450SEL 6.9...It was a beast in its day...That late 70's "Limited edition" model had over 400 ft lbs of torque on tap...There weren't many 140mph sedans cruising around in the 70's.
I really like how in this movie they show collateral damage, like those innocent bystanders being mowed down by gunfire. Other movies wouldn't show that. Kind of makes it feel like Grand Theft Auto or something
1:03 that epic rear burnout... at right, the car's rear windshield blows out! I never noticed that, since no one is shooting at them, at least in this edit, so maybe the initially shot sequence a tad different.
Gotta love the 2 guys in the background at 0:57.A hale of bullets flying around them and they stay upright :"Fresh produce, get your fresh produce here!" or whatever french for that is. Also, that Merc isn't doing a tire spin like that, no matter what's under the hood! Also, Larry's face If you pause at 2:32.😂
Nasty scene and all too realistic death toll in an awesome movie. And the best part is when it is all over, and the question comes up of what was in the case, DiNiro's answer is "...I can't remember" and the mystery remains to the end. Spy games indeed.
Hope I got this right, but I’m pretty sure the guy that’s the driver of the Audi is actually a stuntman. I think they couldn’t get an actor to replicate his driving so they decided to just employ him as a character as well as a stunt driver.
