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Can you please do something about the background music in the middle. At least on stereo headset it is very disturbing, and distract so much that i have not been able to see a full video for many weeks now :(
When the beginning of every cave diving disaster video begins with "these guys were experts with 400+ dives in 15 different countries who spent weeks meeting with other experts to plan their dive down to the minute" and then they STILL end up dead, that's how you know just how friggin' dangerous this activity really is
@@DrDeuteronThis reminds me of the stort I read about monkeys poking sleeping lions with sticks. Just for fun. Even though we are millions of years seperated from other primates, we still do risky things just for fun. We are still primitive in many ways
As a fellow diver, I must say that when I go to the maximum 8-foot depth of my pool. I try to not dilly-dally there too long before ascending back to the surface. Dive safe folks.
@@MrDmadnessit’s odd that I always watch cave diving and mountaineering accident videos before I take my naps😂 Edit: I think I sleep better knowing that I’m in a safe place. Same reasons why people like apocalyptic literature
For those who have never dove, the feeling when you get close to the end of a tank is terrifying because it’s harder to inhale, so there’s a physical feedback of “problem” your diaphragm has to work harder and this elevates heart rate, thus you breathe more. There becomes a point when you suck and suck but there’s nothing to give, hoping I never know what that’s like. Has to be a bad way to go.
@@user-eb9sc6cu4t the ratio for gases at such low depths has to be calculated very thoroughly. If not done properly you will get nitrogen or helium poisoning in your blood from the gas in the tank. It’s pretty complicated I believe this video goes into better detail about it. It’s pretty easy to become disoriented if you’re suffering from hypoxia or other sickness’s while diving. You also have to math out your safety stop ( to help your body get rid of the nitrogen in your blood and help keep you from getting decompression sickness) If you’re diving very deep it can be a very long stop at some vertical point in the water column.
In every cave diving accident video that he makes, he uses a very specific music. Every time I hear it, it sends shivers down my spine as come kind of pavlovian reflex because I know it means we've reached the tipping point of the video. The ambiance of thoses videos are so well crafted, it's amazing
You’d think that his videos would feel bland and generic by using the same 3 or so songs, but nay. Props to whichever people made these songs, because they’re dreadful, and I mean that in the best way possible. Combined with the great narration and visualisation by Jay, it’s the most addictive nightmare fuel.
It's such a prevalent thing with the human mind there's a *_whole niche_* within the sound industry _(including music)_ built around taking advantage of that. It got a lot more traction in America and India than it did in the UK and Australia, though. This is the cause of the "UK Hell's Kitchen vs US Hell's Kitchen" meme: despite it using almost the same exact production team, the US version has BG-SFX while the UK version is notably quiet in comparison.
The fact that this man made a full list of errors and a conclusion to prevent it from happening again while recovering shows what a true professional he is.
@@MrShanester117 Your world is gray and sickeningly stagnant, you are oblivious to the true taste of food and the meaning of music, you feel not the wet grass under your feet nor the rattling wind in your hair nor even the warm sun on your face, and your heart races not at the sight of your loved ones.
"How far can you see in front of yourself in here normally?" "About 50 feet." "How far can we you see today?" "About 6." "Great, lets go!" Ain't no way 💀
STORYTIME: I want to thank Scary Interesting for helping me make a smart decision recently while out adventuring in the world. Last month I visited Enchanted Rock State Natural Area, in the Texas Hill Country, with my mom. I'd never been before and didn't realize the difference between a state *park* and this state *natural area*. i.e., few paved paths, limited directional signs, when the map says a trail is "difficult" it MEANS it, etc. We started down Echo Canyon Trail, because I saw on the map that it eventually led to a lake, and I thought that would be fun to see. Turns out this "trail" is less hiking and more climbing up and over and down boulders and rocks. Like, you're literally scaling down a canyon, through it, and, I'd suppose, back up again. There were no "side" trails you could exit on if you decided to bail. When you got to the other side, you'd either have to come back the whole way you came or take an even longer Loop Trail to get back to the parking area. A while into the hike, my mom and I stopped for a rest and discussed whether we wanted to keep going or turn back. I really didn't want to "give up," but a) we had no cell service in this location, b) fellow hikers were few and far between, c) it was hot, and though we had ample water for our hiking, there was not enough for an extended emergency, d) the terrain could easily result in broken bones or injuries if a misstep happened (I'd already slipped once on loose gravel), etc. etc. etc. And I thought of Scary Interesting and Disasterthon and other channels like y'all's, and I realized this was the moment in *my* story where I was given the opportunity to know my limits, be smart, and turn back. So we did. And by the time we got back to our car, I was so glad we hadn't kept going. All this to say, although there's no reason to believe I would've DIED if I'd kept going, it's technically a possibility. SO, LIKE, YOUR CHANNEL MAY REALLY HELP SAVE LIVES. ISN'T THAT NEAT?
Yes this is really neat It definitely goes to show how much you can learn from these channels not just the tragedy that occurs but real life lessons that could save a person's life. Thank you for sharing your story And I'm glad you and your mom are okay
Thank you for sharing your story. I recently went on an easy hike but somehow went off trail. Then I heard a water stream and went further off trail to investigate. When I turned around there I was completely lost. Weirdest feeling. Like every hill looked different now. Like losing your car in a parking lot. Finally found my way back to the faintest trail, and spent the next 14km sprinting through bushes hoping that the path will eventually lead somewhere familiar (it was getting dark at this point). I ended up in the next town over! And had to hitchhike back to where I was staying for the night. Truly an insane mission, would not recommend it. I’m very fit and was on my own, but if I was with someone else it could have gone very badly, they would have likely just given up at some point and then we would have been stuck on a mountain a 1000m up with no warm clothes and very limited food and water. The experience really woke me up, I’m a lot more careful these days.
You went "nah, don't want to end up on a video titled 'HORRIBLE fates' by Scary Interesting" lol Jokes aside, that was a good call, no need to put yourself and your mom under unnecessary risk, smart move!
I remember about 20 years ago I was at a dive site in North Wales (once an old quarry) doing some training. A guy surfaced who's buddy (also his wife) was in terrible trouble. Soon word got round that she'd got tangled in a chain that broke free from a pontoon above and dragged her down to the bottom (hundreds of feet down). With very little time left it soon became apparent that nobody had the gear there to reach her or free her from the tangle if they could. The feeling over the next hour was awful, knowing she'd run out of air soon and there's nothing we could do. Her body wasn't recovered for serval days due to difficulty with the depth and finding the location. Her husband did decend with her but was unable to do anything. He came back up, suffering from awful decompression sickness to get help then was air lifted to a chamber shortly after. I like these videos but they always remind me of that haunting day.
Horrific accident with divieing anything can happen I once nearly got sucked into a underwater pipe while diveing near a power station escaped by the skin of my teeth 😮
Quarries are so dangerous. In my school days, a classmate of mine drowned in a quarry. He was swimming with his brothers and friends. We were shocked and heartbroken when we heard the news. For the boys with him, it was even worse.
This is one of the most tragic tales you've told and a true sign of friendship, as not only did he do everything he could to save his friend but he reflected on the it to understand the errors.
Hey, just an added note: there have been more and more fully fabricated AI content farm stories published about events that seem real. I am sure you are thorough, just keep eyes open and don't get sucked into AI fiction while scraping the barrel for content. It's so easy to do. Absolutely love the channel. Awesome work building a great community.
I was just sitting on tge edge of my boat when I got the notification on my phone and watched the video... ive decided now not to go look at rocks way under water and just look at rocks on the surface instead ;)
@@MrDmadness lmao for real though, if there was gold nuggets or diamonds down there id be in every cave i could. but its just muddy water and rocks, not really worth dying.
Thankfully I will NEVER have to worry about my rope breaking at 500 feet... or running out of air at 500 feet... or getting hungry at 500 feet... or diving to 500 feet... or entering a cave... EVER...
That is an incredibly intimidating cave. Most underwater caves are somewhat intimidating but this one seems especially horrific with its depth and many large chambers.
I would never be dumb enough to go cave diving, but if I were to I would greatly prefer to be in a large cave like this than in a claustrophobic one where the walls are so narrow that you can't even have your oxygen tank on your body. This cave is scary, but if the visibility was as good as it normally was I think both divers would've made it out alive quite easily
@@michaelgeorge4643 The problem with roomier caves is that sometimes you can’t see or feel the walls, plus there are a lot of chimneys that seem like false exits in this one, which is why it gets to me so much. In closer but not cramped quarters it’s easier to follow the cave walls and ceilings to notice landmarks without the high risk of siltouts.
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Hey, at least it's not one of the caves where you have to squeeze through tiny passages that require you take off your bottles. On the other hand, the south entrance looks much easier, less dead ends and a more directly vertical ascend.
this is sad. there have been many other cave divers that have lost their lives due to their passion. mad respect for them. they only went a few feet from the deepest dive done in that cave. RIP to Tao. he saved his bf. sorry to Tao’s family for their loss. be careful out there
You know, I used to be able to listen to audio at work, and loved listening to all of your content. But these past few months we haven't been allowed to listen to anything, and miss binging this channel. Thanks for making all of your videos very easy to listen to.
My deepest respect for trying to pronounce even the most difficult places and names correctly … not just in Chinese, Thai, German or French … but especially Welsh :-)
Chinese speaker here! Took me a minute to figure out which cave it was because it's actually Jiudun Cave, not Jiudan Cave! (U not A) Some things I found out about the location: 1. "Guang Xi 广西 (Goo-ah-ng See)" is the name, and "Zhuang (Joo-ah-ng)" means region. 2. The county name is 2 words, so "Du'an 都安 (Doo Ah-n)" and not Duan. 3. The Chinese name of "Jiu Dun 九顿 (J-i-oo D-oo-n)" Cave is better known as JiuDun TianChuang 九顿 天窗 meaning JiuDun Skylight. It also looks like there was another casualty last year, where a famous Chinese deep cave diver called Han Ting had his body recovered from the cave system.
I was actually looking for more info about this cave after the video and found articles about Han Ting and at first I was like "oh yeah the guy I was just watching a video about! Wait wasn't that guy's name Tao? And this is from 2023, not 2014? Uh oh."
The diver that survived was involved in another death in Florida in 2019. He led three other divers, two young women, another man, and himself; on a one way traverse without proving the exit or asking about local knowledge as the exit being blocked was known. I don't know how many cave divers that there are in China, but it seems rather lopsided compared to deaths in Florida or Mexico. Maybe it is just this one cave similar to Bushman's in SA, but it seems like a lot for what seems like a small community.
@@elafzal5866 a smart chinese proverb, a gentleman would stay away from an almost crumble wall. donc cette situation, stay away from diving or cave diving, you wont die from it..... learn this, round eyes.
Thousands upon thousands of people gl cave diving literally every day. Probably hundreds of thousands, around the world, and nothing significant happens.. It's a channel dedicated to cave diving disasters, that's all it tells you. Is wild how many people come to this "conclusion." It's objectively confirmation bias.
@@TrustMeIKnowEverythingfucking right?? THANK YOU! It's so unbelievably irritating how many people come to this big brain conclusion. You'd think they'd run out of car accident stories, but they don't, tell you all you need to know about driving a car.." implying it's bad / stupid to drive a fucking car. The only lessons last conclusion to draw is if you're going to do it, pay attention, don't be an idiot, and make sure you don't go out of your experience level. That's literally it.
Im starting to believe that as a high functioning alcoholic deep water cave diving might be my calling. Seems like all these guys get that "martini effect" and they cant function.. i figure with my drinking habbits i should be good to atleast 700 feet easily
Yeah, one mistake or mishap, and you better have the mental fortitude to hold your composure, or else you'll panic. I couldn't do that in such a cold, wet dark place like that.
Stupid. Hate to be mean, but you know at some point you will die on a dive. One of the rescuers usually dies in the process. Let's save lives and just close them down.
If there was anything interesting to see in these caves I would understand the desire to take the risks involved in exploring them, but risking your life to see submerged limestone just seems extremely dumb to me
They're trying to set records, not see the limestone, hence the "less than a minute at the bottom" thing. Wanting to break records is how a lot of people die.
@@lancepage1914 Listening to Taylor Swift doesn’t carry a significant risk of drowning yourself or the people who might try to recover your body. I don’t know about you but I’d listen to every one of Taylor’s songs before risking my life trying to be the person who dove the deepest into a submerged limestone hole.
@@Galfrid You’re right but that’s not any better right? Personally, just because something takes skill and bravery doesn’t make it worthwhile. Even if a cave diving record came with accolades and money and fame, which it doesn’t, it still wouldn’t even be close to a worthwhile endeavor to anyone with common sense and respect for their own life in my opinion.
I've got to say... I found this channel a couple weeks ago, and you rival Mr. Ballen in my opinion, I love the way you tell stories, and how frequently you upload. Instant sub from me, keep up the amazing work!
My absolutely piss-poor sense of direction is exactly why I never go caving - especially cave diving. In the event the primary method fails (like the rope breaking), I'd be stuck until somebody else that _does_ know their way out - _which would hopefully be my partner(s)_ - comes and helps. Even if I only turned once, without fail I tend to choose the wrong path on the way out even if I'm "100% certain" that way was correct; afterwards I completely lose any reference point I previously had and become _completely_ lost. This is literally the main fear I have as to why I don't go caving. It isn't even the cave collapsing or getting stuck upside down that scares me. Despite both of those situations being objectively deadlier, one is statistically less likely to happen to me and the other is a situation I'd be much more capable of getting myself out of. Not saying I can get out from impossibly stuck situations (though I _am_ a natural contortionist); simply that I trust my flexibility and upper-body strength loads more than trusting my knack of getting lost in my own home town, lol. ======= *_Semi-related tangent from this point_* tl;dr: Me talking about my primary exposure to caving - playing Minecraft as a kid. ======= Hell even when I used to play Minecraft the surface would start looking like it's infested with groundhogs with all the dirt mounds around holes (so I wouldn't accidently fall down one...again), because when I was done it was legitamently faster for me to go down with a stack of ladders and simply dig my way out than spend literally a week or more *(in-game)* trying to find the entrance because a creeper blew up the "road" sign I put up again; lol. Plus said holes doubled as a quicker way to get back to where I initially needed to leave. What's ironic with that is by the time I finally get the cave system registered to memory, I've already built up enough underground infrastructure to make _it_ safer than the surface to get around. If you place a torch every I think 15 squares it prevents any mobs from spawning. Half that and it becomes as bright as daylight. Ironically it's easier to light up the underground than it is to light up the surface. I just realized while typing that: when I was a kid in Minecraft, I legit would spend more time underground than on the surface; to the point I'd even set up underground farming. I played Minecraft like I was a bloody mole, rofl.
Could you not just write it down? Like have a step counter and every time u turn or or come to a split or whatever just write the way you went and how many steps it took to get their
@@0x45Swims Yes, let me write how many paddles I did per turn and exactly what angle that turn was on as I swim in a cave where I can barely see 10 feet in front of me. I'm sorry, lol.
You can't rely on your natural sense of direction. That's why you gave a guide line or rope. If you can swim while pulling yourself along hand over hand and follow your bubbles up you would be alright. It's fools who think their sense of direction will guide them that get into problems, you know your limits and that's a much more valuable skill
It is amazing to me that a few months ago I was learning about gas mixtures and their effects on human body. 20 videos later whenever gas mixtures are involved, I'm like: yeah, I know. The things you learn unintentionally.
Painkiller sure don't help 😪 IAM disabled now due to decompression sickness it's very pianfull the chambers very scary 😮 woukdnd wish it on my worse enemy
@@Celeste-go5tg I’m so sorry to hear that! If you don’t mind my asking, is it like a full body ache, or do only certain parts hurt? Does ANYTHING help mitigate the pain other than time? And is that time like a couple of hours and it wears off or longer?? Sorry for the many questions, I’m sure I could google them but imo actual answers from a person with first hand experience is vastly more valuable.
@@dantauche7917 all your joints and muscle ache and tremors and terrible head ache and dizziness feel like your dieing I still have pianfull joints now can't hardly walk even after being in chamber still had pianfull joints my symptoms were delayed which sometimes happens was till the next morning it hit me i was rushed to a chamber this is the 3 rd time i should have discount card 🤣
Bro I really appreciate the extra effort you put into researching this one i had never heard of it. Please do more lesser known stories, i love you history stories as well. Shipwreck ones are awesome! Keep it up man
@@humanrightsactivist101 No, it is much more difficult. You have to manage air mixtures the further down you go so that you can still breathe, which can cause nitrogen narcosis. Wait, wtf? Just read the above comment. It already explains it lmao
Just to add, over the next few years, several similar cave diving accidents occurred here. On November 15, 2020, four divers were diving at Peach Blossom Jellyfish Skylight in Dongmiao Village, Du'an County （都安县东庙村桃花水母天窗）, when one went missing. On September 26, 2021, two divers went missing at Jiudun, and the recovery operation lasted 10 days. In October 2022, a diver went missing after diving 28 meters at Jiudun. Her body was found in March of the following year at a depth of over 200 meters. On October 8, 2023, Han Ting, a well-known figure in the Chinese diving community, went missing underwater while preparing to break the world record for cave diving. On October 25, 2023, Han Ting's body was recovered from Jiudun.🙏
I am going to lose my mind if I die before knowing what's in the "secret underwater ocean section" in Devil's Hole cave. I think about that all the time.
Water is not to be messed with. I have been doing deep water swimming in a pool and the max depth being only 18 ft, every time I descend to that level I still get chills 😅. You must never be overconfident
My thoughts exactly... I mean, what ... no sharks or electric eels?? Pfft... at least make sure the cave walls are razor sharp and why not just avoid useinb flippers and goggles too??? Finally, have a friend in the boat above dropping large stones into the water, I mean come on.... there HAS to be a good way to maximize danger here 😂
@@MrDmadness Those are some excellent suggestions! Also for some additional fun and excitement they could a few tanks with a wrong mixture of gasses or that just empty! Like a underwater russian roulette!
@@MrDmadness Wait, wait - I got this: How about the people who choose to cave dive in ABANDONED MINES 😈 Because what cave diving really needed to spice things up is rotten wood, sharp rusty metal, and an extra helping of loose rocks and gravel.
@@adisca2k I think you could make that argument. I imagine that the average diveable wreck would likely have considerably better water circulation and less risk of siltout compared to the average abandoned flooded mine.
The only thing that’s given even slight comfort watching these are the friends that stick by. The cases that a friend stays or tries their hardest to help the other are the ones that get to me. They didn’t leave anyone behind, even though they could’ve easily. Such as this man who fought for his friend until his end. After he was lost, he should’ve ascended immediately, but instead he kept trying to look for him. He kept trying to get him back. The moment Tao was floating free, it should’ve been made a thought that he may have to ascend without him if he broke free. Once he did, he should’ve ascended. It’s very admirable that he didn’t and continued to search for a while (admirable, not advised.) Also, the way he broke down their mission and errors showed how much he cared. Rip Tao
one correction at 14:23 you said he was teetering between DCS and Nitrogen Narcosis, but Nitrogen Narcosis symptoms immediately dissipate after you ascend to a point where the Nitrogen can offgas. His symptoms were likely from breathing the mixtures at the incorrect depths combined with DCS
Its hard to feel bad for people when they willingly cave dive. Its like if someone was into taking naps on railroads, itd be hard to feel bad for them when the inevitable happens.
They don’t want you to feel bad for them. These are people who think that if you don’t risk your life for your ultra dangerous hobby, that you’re a loser, and a normie, and lower than them. I think of it as karma when one of them ends up expiring. They’re mostly all bad, narcissistic people who are addicted to near fatal experiences
Hindsight is 20/20 but i almost died this way. I was doing a dive and nearly got sucked into this spring. Probably wouldve hut my head and my respirator probably wouldve came out of my mouth and died. Thankfully another diver noticed before it was too late and pulled me out before it was too late.
Its sad to see several of the top comments making light of this tragedy. So as a response, i attempted the same exact dive today under the same circumstances, and passed away.
I have so much respect for cave divers. However, the thought of knowing or at least partially seeing my good friend inevitably sink away to their death is unfathomable to me. Much respect for the cave divers and to those that have perished in pursuit of something they love.
You should do a video on the Sewol ferry disaster if you haven’t yet. Or Hiker stories (the Appalachian Trail has some WILD stories ) because Divers/ Cavers are basically hikers of the deep and that ties in to the vibe of your channel.
I've done decompression diving. Bad idea doing exploratory cave diving combined with a record depth. Two new things at once, plus limited vis. Sounds like they kinda panicked a bit. Overbreathing, plus neither of them checking Taus 2nd tank. Though its also understandable, given their situation. Also wonder about ICD. (Isobaric counterdiffusion) from him switching back to air that deep. Though I do appreciate living that insane experience vicariously. Knowing how I could have been one of them. In a different life trajectory. So thanks for bringing it to us. Without all that artificial crap we get from many channels. Appreciate it. Regards. (ps. Its the 21% oxygen in the air tank that gets toxic at around 200 ft+)
I hate that 9:50 plucking sound, I get it, you want it so be all mysterious. But it makes it hard to focus on the story and what you are trying to say.
