ROR: Kirby Super Star Vs. Kirby Super Star Ultra (SNES Vs. NDS) 

Babyyoshi309 Agreed and the only people I see saying the original is better are nostalgia blind fans who grew up playing the original and eather call the new version ugly because it doesnt look exactly like the original or have never even tried the game -_- seriously they are as bad as Genwuners they are few and far between but vocal as hell when they show up. Seriously people like them irritate me

The humble-brag part wasn't necessary

+orang man Yes it was. :D

Babyyoshi309 No.. Super Star is known as the best game in the series.

+The Diamond Prototype A few years ago that was true, but definitely not nowadays. Also Galacta Knight and Bandana Dee have been in basically every game since Ultra. Masked Dedede made several more appearances as well.

It's A Brush Easy Winner

A Brush Actually Masked Dededes theme was kinda introduces in Kirbys super Star Stacker a japanese only SNES game.

Maybe the idea was introduced through Super Star Stacker, but the full song didn't take shape until KSSU.

lexicon No, it was the full song in "Kira Kira Kizu"!

Ultra let you play as Meta Knight and introduced Galacta Knight Ultra wins.

Kirby Super Star (while he does have a fair point to why he’s not a fan of the original’s graphics), regardless of the version, has incredible 2D graphics (especially KSSU)!

Compared to the original I guess, Amazing Mirror, NIDL, and Squeak Squad all look better because it has more detail and consistent design

@@gezi5927 I think NIDL looks a little ugly (compared to the NES version). But SS is, indeed, very pretty.

@@thatyphoon5219 No, the CGI animations are also fantastic.

Iuiip I’ll

it was my first kirby game and the first game i've ever bought. i think i have over 1000 hours on it XD

Dr. Medic i agree

It was the first game I ever played

Best kirby game 10/10

No, I just love the Original. A lot. I hate the remake. A lot.

The intro theme is out of tune though.

original is better because of everything not because of nostalgia ir was a good balance of easy and hard perfect for newcomers to kirby and for pros and ita just a better game after all so yeah not nostalgia

erick Pereira Uhh... they have the same content other than the remakes. Your argument is nonsense.

erick Pereira but...Ultra it's the same as the original, even in difficulty.

PaintraSeaPea *_"If someone disagrees with me it's probably just nostalgia. There's no denying the correctness of my opinion."_* Get out of here with that garbage. I played Ultra first, and I've played Ultra far more, but I prefer the original. The presentation in Super Star is all around superior, with much higher audio quality, the sprites being far more expressive (though not as well animated), the cutscenes not being low quality FMVs, and there being a lot of animated background elements bringing the environments to life which aren't present in the remake. It's just more appealing to look at and listen to overall. Also, Capsule J, Bounder, and the original design for Wham Bam Rock are superior to their replacements. And then there's a whole bunch of minor gameplay tweaks that altogether make things easier in Ultra. To a fault, I would say. Just to give one example, if a boss or miniboss slams the ground to make stars pop out, the stars do not hurt you in Ultra, but they do in Super Star. There are tons of little changes like this affecting every aspect of the game. It's significant enough that Marx Soul is easier than Marx in Super Star if you ask me, which is just stupid. The new content Ultra brings to the table is alright, but only Revenge of the King had any effort put into it at all, and even that sub-game is somewhat lazy, consisting almost entirely of rehashed content. When I look at what they could have done with Ultra (I've heard they considered adding new abilities but decided against it to be more faithful to the original, and they could have brought to life the interesting sounding Kagero Mansion sub-game planned to be in the original but cut due to limited time and resources), and instead they give me content like a mode where I replay every level with no changes outside of the last boss other than that I'm playing as Meta Knight, it's more than a little disappointing, I gotta say. Hell, I'd almost prefer Meta Knightmare Ultra wasn't included at all, but that's probably mostly because I just don't like using Sword in Super Star. Also, Kirby Super Star Ultra didn't just come out. It's a decade old, my dude. I'm sure there are tons of people that grew up with the remake (you were about 8 when it released, for instance) and/or played the remake well before they ever played the original, if they've ever even played the original at all. Nostalgia is totally liable to be a reason for preferring one version to the other for *BOTH* versions of the game, *NOT* just the original.

+Kyle the Reflectionist I only ever use Hammer anyway, because those invincibility frames tho.

I guess that's *True*. Hammer is extremely fun to use in the Arenas!

I beat the True Arena with Mirror.

High five! I've tried... And tried... But I just can't! I can't give up though! I can't truly call myself "The Reflectionist" until I eventually do it! Although, I can easily beat it with Mirror in Robobots True Arena though.

Kyle the Reflectionist *High fives* The trick to using Mirror in Kirby Super Star Ultra's True Arena is to keep on guard most of the time. Due to Mirror's shield, it helps by getting rid of the small damage most True Arena boss hits give on a regular guard. Mirror's shield can also come in handy by reflecting projectiles, which can beat Mid-bosses in seconds, and make Galacta Knight's fight considerably easier by causing him to hit himself.

Yeah and being able to take it on the go is a plus as well. I mean the reason I got it was to have a portable version of one of the best classic Kirby games after waiting for a port of it preferably one on a Nintendo handheld not only did I get a portable Superstar but I got so much more bang for my buck due to the improvements on the original and all the new game modes, it gives me a ton of playtime on the rare occasions I end up going on a long trip to visit someone or to an appointment I mean all I have to do is replay Spring Breeze all the way up to at least Meta Knightmare Ultra if I don't feel like getting frustrated with any of the boss rush modes and even more time if I do want to play them. So it can keep me busy for a while on a trip. I do want this version on VC if only to beat the boss rush modes (especially helper to hero) more easily with Nintendo's restore points features.

ahbeef The only reasons I'd prefer the original over Ultra as far as I know: - Plasma damage is toned down because it's not as easy to charge to full - Bosses have more invincibility frames after being hit, feels like at least double the original, which really becomes notable after repeated Arena runs - Kirby bounces after dropping a fair distance down, which doesn't sound like much but it really breaks the flow if you bounce upon landing instead of breaking into a run - Several other abilities were altered, though these are minor nuances like wing moving slower in the air or parasol float giving you incredible horizontal speed. Essentially, it's the people who've been very used to the game's mechanics that don't like Ultra. As someone who can relate - I'm not a fan of the aforementioned bounce when I try quickly clearing great cave offensive - I can see where they're coming from, but understand that Ultra blows it out of the water in terms of content.

I still want KSSU on Wii U VC just so I can have an easy way to record it with my capture card! I really wanna learn to speedrun Meta Knightmare Ultra and VC would not only make it way easier to record but also possibly be faster due to loading time

the arguments for the original being better is a bunch of nostalgia boners, it's still good tho, i just prefer the ds version

ahbeef for me the perfect 2d plataformer is rayman legends

....True.

Maxie Karn I mean, you can play as a badass killing machine. What more could we want?

Also, mach tornado. Yes. Just yes.

Maxie Karn Putting in an addition that wasn't in the first game doesn't mean it's automatically an improvement. It still has to be well designed.

Stormy Bell Which it was

What do you mean?

Skeeter Mania Usually FMVs on DS games are 15 or 20 Frames Per Seconds.

Otaku_GameFan I meant what is an FMV?

Skeeter Mania FMV is short for Full Motion Video, They're basically Video file within a game.

Otaku_GameFan u

Kyle Campbell Dito and worse still I almost beat the True Arena in Robobot and then the final boss' s end of fight kamikaze atack did me in -_-

Honestly if I didn't use restore points I'd have never beaten any of the boss rush modes in some Kirby games, I mean I beat helper to hero maybe two times, and the only reason I beat the arena in Triple deluxe is because it's less challenging than the true arena, it took me until I unlocked the arena during around Ultra's release all the way until the Wii U era before I unlocked the true arena and it took me a ton of tries to beat the true arena one time legitimately, only other boss rush I've beaten legitimately that even has a relationship to the Kirby series and on it's highest difficulty is the boss rush in Smash Bros. Brawl as Sonic, and that's only because I was really damn persistent, I honestly don't know if I could pull that off again. I only ever beat Nightmare in Dreamland's boss rush when I bought the Wii U Virtual Console version and only because I could use restore points and any other Kirby game's boss rush modes on 3DS or Wii U Virtual Console were pretty much the same case I only beat it because of Nintendo's restore point feature they added to their Virtual Console games.

Kyle Campbell USE HAMMER OR ROCK

Actually I do use stone, it's actually Galactica Knight (or however his name is spelled) that's my main problem in the true arena, he's hard to hit and moves too fast for me to attack and then become invulnerable again, like when he shoots his rotating beam attack from his sword when he places himself in the center of the stage I can never attack him then without hurting myself as well, and when hsummons his own minions they always love to stand on top of me so that no matter how long I wait I'll have no choice but to change back into my normal stone Kirby form and take damage not to mention if Galactica Knight decides to come back while they're still there they get in the way, it's really hard to hit Galactica Knight with stone or Hammer as his pattern moves too fast for me to keep up with him making me have no clue what he's doing next and doesn't let me attack since Hammer isn't invulnerable and he moves too fast for me to attack him with Stone without taking damage, even if I do manage to beat him he leaves me with hardly any health to afford to make even the smallest mistake with Marx Soul who you fight immediately after him, and the fact you only get food that restore only small portions of your health in-between each battle meaning there's no maximum tomatoes to fully recover means he doesn't leave me with enough health to beat Marx Soul at the end of the True Arena since I'm either out of the limited health items due to other bosses damaging me or the fact that the few I have left don't give me enough health to take on Marx Soul without even the smallest mistake where I take damage completely screws me over and I end up losing to him at the end of the True Arena due to Galactica Knight doing a number on me in the battle right before Marx Soul.

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+KingK gg m8

What meme?

Do super Mario 64 DS next

It’s sad that is one of the rarest Nintendo DS games. Damn, I just want to pay it legally but I don’t want to pay 50€ for it (Yes, I’m from Europe, that makes the thing worse).

More like Kirby HellOfATrueArena.

Kirby s adventure wii(sorry, I used the European name for return to Dreamland): Am I also a joke to you?

SILVIO x Yes, you are.

Star Allies boss rush is well easier than Robobot's. I completed both (literally did the Star Allies one with every character on the hardest difficulty because I'm sad lol) and I hardly ever failed at all on SA

@@silviox8637 Yes, you are easy

Yeah I am disappointed that it's not on the Wii U VC yet. I got both the original version & the DS version of Super Mario 64 on my Wii U & I don't regret it. But to be honest I got the N64 version via My Nintendo & only because of my love of a youtuber named SuperMarioGlitchy4.

I don't think Super Mario 64 DS looks very good on a TV.

GameStation3 I don't blame you.

It's mainly because a large TV can't really compare to a small screen with somewhat larger pixels.

The King Yeah I can see that. I though I still think SM64DS looks great in HD.

Megapig9001 Same.

Megapig9001 Nostalgia, I guess

Megapig9001 i like neither

Megapig9001 nostalgia and people usually think remakes are automatically better even though they probably never played it and just cling into the original

When it originally came out, a lot of people were iffy on it...Personally I think they were just blinded by nostalgia. Currently, most people have view that the DS version is the superior version I think after taking a lot more time to think about it.

Joyful Scout I K R

Milky way wishes is excellent, except for the fire planet, the fire planet can die

AngryNerds100 Mario 69 is my favorite Sega Dreamcast game.

+Dmansuperich2800 *Maro

AngryNerds100....

I remember Mario 69! I like the horrible controls,PvZ styled levels and bad OCs! The remake is really a rebream though. It's turd with memes.

The Fuzzy Ocelot ditto

And you were right.

+CodeBox42 Thanks, CodeBox.

CodeBox42 I just like the Meta Knight battle

Torrie Starfrost even with Archer, I can't beat it. Why? The game randomly crashes on me when I use camouflage in the final stage

Royal Weeb Odd. Do you have the digital version?

Torrie Starfrost nope. Physical

Royal Weeb Odd. was going to say if it was digital you can fix the software, but since it isn't I'm not sure :/

The same issue I've got with Dark Matter in Kirby's Dream Land 2. That you're dead if you don't beat the second phase fast enough. Also doesn't help that you've got the to start over from the first phase if you die.

Kirbonic Pikmin I got a tip every time there is something like a the pulse nightclub go and forget how bad this world by watching a my little pony episode #nottryingtomakeuabronybro. JK.

Juckle Same

@@joopersdoopers Super Star Ultra just makes the original completely obsolete.

+Skeeter Mania Yeah, but you need the hammer to break those blocks in the water I showed.

+Skeeter Mania Yeah, but you need the hammer to break those blocks in the water I showed.

ExoParadigmGamer Actually you can break those by activating Stone before you hit the water.

+Skeeter Mania Well sheeit. I didn't think to try that. Still doesn't explain why they didn't put a Sir Kibble in that part of the tower.

ExoParadigmGamer uhm ninja helper can do the same thing as sir kibble michael

now here i am wanting to play Planet Robobot (i've beaten Kirby Super Star Ultra years ago)

Even by the high (and I mean as high as the sky, or even higher) standards of Kirby, both games are the greatest in the series!!!!!

It's really a back-and-forth. Plasma is overall better but its DPS isn't as good as Hammer due to the charge time. Hammer is the go-to for speedruns due to the overall higher DPS, but it doesn't have the perfect guard or DPH of Plasma. Plasma is faster against Marx because you have so few opportunities to attack Marx to begin with.

The only other thing we also have to disagree with in this ROR is that the remake has soundtracks that are only average at best or bad at worst. Even though at heart that’s just a nitpick more than an actual video-breaker, what makes it even worse is that he didn’t explain what soundtracks of KSSU he didn’t love.

Choko Anders and now it returned in Kirby star allies.

And in triple deluxe.

I wish kirby would keep the color changes and such after copying an ability like in Superstar. Probably I am nostalgic because of the Kirby Cartoon.

I'm going to have to try this now lol

J's Reviews do you have an ipad/wiiu/smart tv. Then you can get youtube from there.

Why did I just read all of that ._.

I feel like I just had a stroke while reading this comment, dude J was on some shit 4 years ago lol

Legendary NoNiC Same

Same, I prefer SNES OST more though...

GaminTank screw both we want metroid zero mission

gustavo pinto Donkey Kong Country GBC!

Thats a good one too

GaminTank. He'd probably give Diddy Kong Racing DS a Re-Meh.

You will be surprised by the new final bosses. :)

I agree

MarioBiggestFan hes generally not a fan of survival horror, but REmake would be a replace tbh

I pay money to my ex-wife as part of our divor-- oh wait; you're not GW. Hi Ron!

I liked Deadly survivor

SolarstrikeVG hi. Dont think i remember you tbh though

i still recognize your PP

Maxie Primo he just looks... fat

Wait, hasn’t Kirby always been fat?! That’s what makes the Dream Landers (even DeDeDe) super cute!

I would say something about trying to form the Union of Soviet Dreamland Republics, but they censored it.

Royal Crustle because it’s better

How so?

You can't just say, "because it's better" and not provide any context or evidence to support your claim, it makes your comment have no validity. The SNES version is in no way better than Ultra, except for maybe the music, and that's highly subjective.

Royal Crustle youre stupid

Sanic teh ledgedog stupid but i like youre username though

you fokin lyer

You actually weren't loser you were beaten by Tobin 2.0

ExoParadigmGamer I'm not to sure if this game counts as a remake but can you do a ROR of Sonic 1 Remastered?

ExoParadigmGamer I think the SNES KSS OST is a bit too echoey for my taste

ExoParadigmGamer Been waiting for this one, probably my Kirby games!

+sonic meerkat Thinks, sir.

welcome gentleman.

Kyle Campbell Late but it is actually 13 and to 100% you still need to beat the arena

its like he was a computer crashing.