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Rotary Engine Primary VS Secondary Porting And The Effects on Drivability 

RAD Potential
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Took a bit to explain somethings I get questions on. Why a half bridge vs a full bridge? Is half bridge only half of the bridgeport? Why does a half bridge still brap at idle.

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@Rx4Lyfe
@Rx4Lyfe Год назад
I am from NZ and just pulled the stock as a rock 13BT on my FC to open up the primary ports a touch and bridge port the secondaries..for the 'pulse' and a lill more grunt. Your explainations are very clear and well understood in all your vids. Thanks
@BobBlair99
@BobBlair99 2 года назад
I really appreciate your vids. I'm in the process of having my 20B rebuilt. Rear rotor spun its bearing. In the tear down I discovered the horrific job original outfit did in bridgeporting it. I won't say a name. He also used the wrong front gasket which led to very low oil pressure and so on. Your videos are helping me figure everything out. You do a great job. Thsnku.
@mazdaefini7
@mazdaefini7 3 года назад
Great work explaining everything rotary on the fly. It's alway enjoyable and informative and I think you're the only one that goes into so much depth. Keep it up. I came across you by accident but I've watched every episode.
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
Awesome man!!! Thanks for the feedback!! Happy to have you here!!
@alexissantiago9415
@alexissantiago9415 3 года назад
🇵🇷fan from Puerto Rico love seeing people bringing back to life 12a and fb 13b 🔥 can’t wait to se a turbo build
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
There are a few boosted cars on the channel. Nothing crazy wild yet
@alexissantiago9415
@alexissantiago9415 3 года назад
@@RADPotential the fd right, we swap turbo2 engines in 80 corollas , Suzuki samurai for sand drag and 😂were ever we can put one Loving the channel dude keep up that awesome work 🔥💪🏽
@jaredp4478
@jaredp4478 3 года назад
Im glad you touched on the 6 port FCs. I’m building an S5 6 port right now in a REPU clone. I half bridged, so I did a bridge on the aux and secondaries, primaries are just street. I’m turboing it too, retaining the stock manifold, so I will have functional aux actuators and even the variable length runner (dynamic chamber) actuated by boost. It will be a bit dangerous running boost with these high compression rotors, but I will be running water injection to make up for it. I haven’t read about this being done before so I’m excited to see how it works.
@afterburners3092
@afterburners3092 3 года назад
Big things to come!! Love this channel man!
@nashslife4044
@nashslife4044 Год назад
First time I've come across your videos (I think) much appreciated for the knowledge you've shared my friend 🙏🏽
@RADPotential
@RADPotential Год назад
Let me know if you have questions!!
@KenBober
@KenBober 3 года назад
Good to know. I now know what my plans are for my 13b this winter.
@braydenmaguire7896
@braydenmaguire7896 2 года назад
Awesome video bro, great simply way of explaining it
@MattsFC
@MattsFC 2 года назад
Great video man, you really teach me alot about rotary's keep up the good work/content!
@jorgevelez7913
@jorgevelez7913 3 года назад
Don't worry Rad.We do not get offended 😉. PR is in fact the land of the fastest rotary in the planet and we rotary swap everything.You are a rotary lover so who knows you might have some rican on you lol. Love the channel by the way.
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
Haha good!! I don't see much of that gnarly porting up here. We are tame in comparison haha !!
@Rotorcycle
@Rotorcycle 3 года назад
You ain’t lying. I remember the fastest 13b in PR back in the day. Was Serafin Rosado with his Datsun, “the new millennium” making like 7’s in the 1/4. That dude still have the news article that the title said: “boricuas encuentra la receta del motor rotativo” good ol times bro
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
what is the record for 12a? HP record boosted?
@Rotorcycle
@Rotorcycle 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4Zah5blLr-o.html I’m not sure if anyone has beat that yet.
@reysgaragehobbies8798
@reysgaragehobbies8798 3 года назад
Nice information 👌, and yes the gsl-se intake is internally separated primary from secondary I just checked that on my intake "dynamic chamber", I was wondering about it because I want to do a half bridge and keep some good driveability at low rpms, thanks for keep making cool videos specially for first gen and gsl-se models, like 👍🏼
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
Id do the bridge on the 5th and 6th ports. That was such a neat sleeper smooth build
@MrMyshed
@MrMyshed 2 года назад
hello from Australia love your vids and half bridge all the way totally agree
@sfkarl
@sfkarl 3 года назад
Hello from New Zealand
@abdulwaseer6054
@abdulwaseer6054 3 года назад
Well, Eric. I'm buying my first project. Thank you for making these videos!!! I am going to pick up the car this week. It's an 84' GSL-SE. the engine doesn't run so it's going to be a sweet project! and it's A MANUAL heheeh. Radddd
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
Dude mega!!!!! Sick corvette too!!
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
Dude mega!!!!! Sick corvette too!!
@jasonskinner1652
@jasonskinner1652 3 года назад
Nice bro thanks again from Australia. Would be interesting if you ported your RX8 and played with that too. Keep up the content man, your channel will definitely grow!
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
I plan to replicate the setup I had in my FC in the 6 port rx8
@ZahirSardar
@ZahirSardar Год назад
great video
@potymouf1
@potymouf1 3 года назад
BEST INTRO EVER!! made my day in some weird way 😂
@thinkingbetweenthecurves
@thinkingbetweenthecurves 3 года назад
Haha It was late and I didn't clip it down
@potymouf1
@potymouf1 3 года назад
You ever figure out what’s going to workout with that Holley sniper system install. I’d like to run nitrous but would only do so with a sniper setup.
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
I am picking up the car and sniper in a couple weeks. Should be a quick project
@addisonblck102
@addisonblck102 Год назад
Full Flintstone... Got me laughing on that one.
@mrquacker5116
@mrquacker5116 3 года назад
Stumbled across your channel last night looking stuff up about the 12a, I’m picking up my first rotary this weekend and was wandering what I should look for and what’s some mild stuff I can do with it? Also love the channel, very informative!
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
A nice intake and exhaust will wake up a stock 12a, if the motor has to come part then you can decide on porting
@uselessoutdoorsman2826
@uselessoutdoorsman2826 3 года назад
Its true we do love a full bridge and anything less is frowned upon 😂
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
I most certainly agree for all the NA stuff haha. :)
@dickbuttkiss6793
@dickbuttkiss6793 3 года назад
Great knowledge you bring to the table my friend.. how can we support your channel and efforts more so? I would love to show you my appreciation for you sharing the wealth of information on rotaries.
@FacesintheStone
@FacesintheStone 3 года назад
Thank you for the Radformation.
@FacesintheStone
@FacesintheStone 3 года назад
When I built the blue tII I did just the secondary’s with the pineapple racing jig. I reamed out the primary’s a lot and gasket matched the intake too. It idles nice low, takes off and cruses like normal-but after 5k you can tell. Commonly called a mild port.
@pj3635
@pj3635 3 года назад
Repping another 12a full bridgeport in NZ 🙋‍♂️
@CretanGuy01
@CretanGuy01 3 года назад
I believe if you street port a little bit the primary plate it will be better in all the aspects than the stock one,of course the second plate is gonna be a bridgeport for the brap’s
@sonoragingerdoodles
@sonoragingerdoodles 2 года назад
Im about to port my 90' 13B TII. THANK YOU! Mazdatrix template.
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 2 года назад
Best place to get ahold of me directly is patreon.
@Ahmed-ln2od
@Ahmed-ln2od Год назад
Great info. Can you do more videos about semi pp please
@tommygibson9515
@tommygibson9515 3 года назад
Hailz from nz love the content
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
Thank you sir!!!!
@Primal____
@Primal____ 3 года назад
I've been looking at ITB setups for my S5, as I've found some old forums talking about they took a stock FC keg and was making around 180whp, which interests me because i love n/a and ITB cars so i figured why not combine those with a rotary and has a sick combo. But that being said I've only found one kit so far and that's from EFI hardware and uses 2 ITBs like a weber setup and wondered what experiences you may have 6 port cars and drivability with a weber like setup? sorry for the long comment and thanks for any advice!
@57rotary
@57rotary Год назад
Rotaries necessitate low pressure Fuel pumps especially for drivability like trucks because of extremely big bores they have. It’s like almost a huge cylinder turned sideways because of bore and stroke configuration on 13b and even 12a. I’m gonna try a Toyota Tundra in tank fuel pump or a Silverado truck one for off the line on my RX8 cause it likes to bog down and it needs better acceleration. It’s what the Puerto Rican’s do for drag racing: low pressure pumps to push more fuel and then a high pressure fuel pump. But I can’t get anyone to install them for me. I would install if I could a Tundra one in tank and the an inline Weldon high pressure 80 to 100 psi after the low pressure Tundra pump.
@mathias106gauthier4
@mathias106gauthier4 3 года назад
Hey, I never comments your video and I have a question but I will start by saying that I like a lot your videos the way your are doing it , great job!!!!! So my question is (if u ever read this) if I I bridge port my secondary ports on an 6ports fc engine will i have the brap? And do i have to go all the way up to the top port to all the way at the bottom of the bit port ? If u understand what I mean that’s great because I am French 😅 By what I understood is I will have the brap by porting the secondary port but the 3-4 first cm starting from the bottom are important because of the exhaust port open at the same time , am I correct ?
@efaracing4000
@efaracing4000 3 года назад
Youve got a knack for dropping videos i plan to ask people about 😂 nice one dude!!!!!! What about porting and combining 5speed/6speed boxes plus the diffs for driveability any combo you prefer?
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
Street car I prefer the 3.9 with any transmission. Race car. Rx8 6 speed and a 4.88
@efaracing4000
@efaracing4000 3 года назад
@@RADPotential beautiful radformation thanks man!
@brianzavalza2763
@brianzavalza2763 7 месяцев назад
For the 6port s5 motor you are talking about. Could that port work with a stock ecu? Or would some kind of fuel management be needed? Love all your content btw!
@marcosalonga9410
@marcosalonga9410 Год назад
Can you kindly make a: How to Achieve higher RPM past 7150 in a S4/S5 NA HBP/sp setup, irons, housings, rotating assembly, counterweight, flywheel, rotor weights from which variant, for 9kish grip/rally racing 🏁
@arturrodrigues9754
@arturrodrigues9754 2 года назад
Hi, I have a FC S4 euro 6 port, and I would like to know what kind of porting can I do to my engine and keep my stock ecu? Or in other words, can I make my car brap with the stock ecu? By the way, keep up the good work, love your channel. Regards from Portugal.
@djbutch123
@djbutch123 3 года назад
definitely want to see that 6 port FB project happen
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
Id love to build it. Its a ton of work for 200 HP but it's one of those things when I had my FC I'd have loved to stick it in the mouse SA at the time
@healthyconnect
@healthyconnect 2 месяца назад
when a 13b na is half bridge ported will the gas flow keep up in the high rpm or how do you get a stock efi car to add more fuel will the car just get faster without doing anything else after you bridge port it or what do you have to do on the fuel side and how do you do it to get the most power?
@orbitstrid3r
@orbitstrid3r 3 года назад
Have you ever heard of a large street port on the primaries and a half bridge on the secondaries? I feel that wouldn't sacrifice too much drivability but still allow for a potentially wider powerband and get that sweet brap at idle
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
Yep that's my ideal port!
@prestonb7976
@prestonb7976 2 года назад
Do you think it's worth to spend extra money and get a 13b for my '79 first gen it stick with the 12a and full bridgeport it
@jamesford3549
@jamesford3549 3 года назад
Great video. I often see people advising against doing an Aux port bridge which I really don’t understand, I’ve never done it myself but in my mind it works like you experienced with yours. I have a FC S4 euro 6 port with a weber set up in my first gen. No sleeves, the aux is done by butterfly valves at the port. perhaps I should covert it from weber to EFI and put the stock intake back on. I also have a half bridge 12A weber and I think it’s crap. Might be ok with a staged throttle set up but with the weber it might as well be full bridge really.
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
The aux port Bridge is epic if you can maintain the factory sleeves as it takes the overlap away at low rpm. Keeping your drivability up. As you mentioned the half bridge with a weber might as well be a full bridge. The benefit from bridgeporting the primary in that situation is barely noticeable. I went from a half to a full bridge 12 in my silver car with the same carb and intake and it was about the same
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
I took my half bridge Plates and Charles built a 13b half bridge with a holley for his repu. And it drives very nice
@jamesford3549
@jamesford3549 3 года назад
I think as my car is a euro spec with 6 ports without sleeves I would avoid bridging on it unless I went full bridge. My 12A I will probably bridge the centre plate too soon
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
Its wild that the euro intake is so different from ours here. I just looked at the design of it. crazy!! I feel the USDM one functions a lot more efficiently. your irons are still able to fit a usdm sleeve? or are they different within the ports on the iron?
@jamesford3549
@jamesford3549 3 года назад
@@RADPotential you could probably machine the irons I have to accept the sleeves. I won’t be bothering though! I run an IDA on it
@jamescribb5139
@jamescribb5139 2 года назад
I definitely need to talk to you about my rx8 looking to build a engine for it but not 100% sure the route to go, and where you located maybe you would be interested in building the engine
@rx8tom
@rx8tom 3 года назад
Do turbo intake manifolds also have separate throttle bodies? Would I have to get a special turbo one? In terms of cost, which one would be the best? Looking to build a turbo rew with rx8 e shaft and other parts of possible.
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
FC and FD are split primary and secondary
@Ifugiveubegin2live
@Ifugiveubegin2live Год назад
Whats a peripheral port? With the side ports closed?
@MrMeoow91
@MrMeoow91 3 года назад
If you have an S4 RX7 NA and keeping all the stock intake and exhaust...basically everything, what would you do to the porting to extract most of the stock setup?
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
I would do the 5/6 - aux port bridge and then a small street port. Up the fuel pressure a little bit and stick an AFR gauge on to make sure its not lean up top, and keep the aux ports functioning. The S4 runs off exhaust pressure to open the ports for you. Like a gslse
@jorgebedon6487
@jorgebedon6487 3 года назад
Hey Rad, what are your thoughts on semi pp?
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
I'm in to peripheral porting in any facet. Generally they are tied into the secondary action of the lower intake manifold
@asimali729
@asimali729 3 года назад
And how to do that please explain
@ehpunka
@ehpunka 2 года назад
I’m putting an extended port 13b in my rx3
@asimali729
@asimali729 3 года назад
Bro can we street port 13b renisis rotary engine
@FernandoLopez-fn2tz
@FernandoLopez-fn2tz 2 года назад
So can I get a nice sound if I get a half port or not
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 2 года назад
Yea. Half bridge is a good brap. The FD and the FC I built are both half bridge
@redbeard5894
@redbeard5894 3 года назад
Not quite a question concerning the video, but I bought my first rotary the other day. 93 Fd street port, single turbo, Haltech 1000 ecu . Runs great and idled at about 1000 rpm. Went out for a drive to show my friend and made a pull. Pulled back up to the house and it was idling at about 2000 rpm. Probably would be a vacuum leak somewhere? Maybe throttle sticking? Got any ideas?
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
Vacuum leak between throttle body and engine. Probably upper intake to lower intake gasket
@redbeard5894
@redbeard5894 3 года назад
@@RADPotential awesome I’ll check there!!
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
Put together a smoker... that's a video I need to make
@jubrie1758
@jubrie1758 6 месяцев назад
What if the 6 port is just primary,street and bridge instead of street,street,bridge 🤔🤔
@Skyrexx7
@Skyrexx7 3 года назад
I've never noticed those 3 circles In my throttle body
@boogerhookcontrol7133
@boogerhookcontrol7133 3 года назад
Do a time lapse of the vinyl wrap
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
For sure!!!! Its gonna take 2 or 3 days for me. Stoked for the holiday
@c.b.6350
@c.b.6350 3 года назад
♥️♥️🤙🤙
@yankeedejesus16
@yankeedejesus16 3 года назад
What do you think about a hybrid rx8 non turbo
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
What do you mean by hybrid rx8? Using gslse housings with exhaust ports?
@yankeedejesus16
@yankeedejesus16 3 года назад
Correct
@ngorxbustedtangs357
@ngorxbustedtangs357 3 года назад
Nz love our j port wait till u experience that bridge just wont be the same
@eddieram2714
@eddieram2714 2 года назад
You mentioned the webbers not being staged, can they be staged if so do you have any videos on how to do it, thanks
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 2 года назад
They Can;t be staged. They are only a single throttle shaft style carburetor,
@willadams5758
@willadams5758 3 года назад
Bro, do you take interns? Like, if I took a few weeks off work teach me shit type of thing?
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
The hardest part for me is generally all the time spent working on RAD stuff is after 7pm every night and then my full weekends. I still work a full time job as an engineer
@willadams5758
@willadams5758 3 года назад
Too bad you aren't in Colorado. I knew you had a 9-5, didn't know you were an engineer though. Solid man. I appreciate your videos thou for real.
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
haha yessir! thanks man!!! Id love to be able to teach people stuff hands on, but for now the videos are what I can do!
@chrisgraff2103
@chrisgraff2103 3 года назад
RIP ears LMAO.
@sonoragingerdoodles
@sonoragingerdoodles 2 года назад
Great video! Can I send you $ via paypal to get 10 minutes on the phone to pick your brain?
@kellinmcabee1343
@kellinmcabee1343 3 года назад
Having a bridgeport is cool until you actually DRIVE the car.
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
For a weekend/fun car its not bad. If its your only car. Nahhh
@kellinmcabee1343
@kellinmcabee1343 3 года назад
@@RADPotential took mine to deals gap a few weeks ago. Very underwhelming, I feel like a streetport with a smaller frame turbo would have been a lot more fun.
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
O your boosted? Fd? A stock port rew will rip with the right turbo. No porting needed
@kellinmcabee1343
@kellinmcabee1343 3 года назад
@@RADPotential No t2 half bridge swapped fb. Its too high strung to enjoy.
@RADPotential
@RADPotential 3 года назад
O yea. In a FB a small frame quick spooling turbo is the jam
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