Roto Grip Gem vs Storm Proton Physix! No Amount Of Oil Can Stop These Bowling Balls! 

I’m glad this helps Brian!!

Thanks!! I appreciate that!

I had a lot of requests for that!

@@LuisNapoles my honest opinion I’d love to throw that gem but I’m more than happy with my proton physix.

Thanks Richard!!

Its def a good feeling to be in! Lets keep grinding!

Lets get better together then!

I try to keep my bigger solids with fresh covers also

Yes sir Josh Ninneman I have a million games on my Proton and do the same. I changed my hand position and I'm going with the cleaner stuff on THS . Zen,Phase 4, Altered Reality, Phase 2 if those are to clean. Thanks 😊

Same, my proton doesn’t hook enough once the cover gets oily. I knock it down with 1000 pad 😂

Thanks! I appreciate that!!

Hopefully! I film most of my videos there!

I’ll do my best!!!! Thanks for that!

I appreciate that!

Yea I was a little excited there! Haha

@@LuisNapoles I've been there brother! You should have seen my reaction after picking up a 4-6 split the other day... I almost fell into the lane next to me I was so excited 😆

I’ll have something like that coming soon !!! Thanks for the sub and support!

You’re welcome!

Gonna use these on some higher volume patterns!

GREAT ball!

Thanks!

Working on it!

@@LuisNapoles you are crushing it right now. Best bowling videos on RU-vid! Viewers are not looking for the newest ball reviews or best comparison videos. We are looking for simple tips and advice that will improve/ help our game.

This gem reminds me of a cleaner version of the og defiant.. for me because i throw it similar to you the defiant core grabs so early and slows down so much in the backend that you really need to rev match with speed for the revs your throwing. What i mean is you really need to get around the ball and give it time to read the lane cause it reads so early.. like if you throw faster you better get around the ball faster.. if you throw slower you better come around the ball slower if that makes sense at least for me.. i remember walking in on league night with the og defiant nobody owned the ball the few that tested it said they couldn't throw it.. after they seen me strike all night the next week like 10 people had the defiant but nobody figured out how to throw the ball. I actually had to full change my release and really find a new way to come over the top and around the ball more and then i was unstoppable.. forward motion this core doesn't like much it likes when you come around the ball more or change the axis.. anyways i might have to get the gem because if its anything like the original defiant its going to be a beast for me..

In my bag right now believe it or not is the storm surelock and the og black widow might be the og black widow pearl i bowled my first 300 game with it like 15yrs ago. I think its time for a bag upgrade i need a strong pearl, and maybe an asymmetrical solid and a symmetrical solid. Im thinking i have to get idol helios, gem and what do you recommend for a pearl the wolverine or zen? I throw it similar to you. I throw it about 14-16mph consistently and idk what my rev rate is but id assume its around 280-350 so low rev slow speed. Ive never had a ball hook to much i couldn't control. Im more of a stoker but go as deep as a tweener when need be.

I never had one but I heard so many good things!

@@LuisNapoles to me it was the gem but earlier and had a 3000 abylon solid finish 👌 💪... ball was ahead of its time for sure kind of like the nano was ..

I hope you love it!

I don’t think it’s over kill no! Pin down gem will give you a different look!

interesting

Thanks so much Tiger!

I’d love to! But those overseas balls are soooooooo expensive!

I would have a hard time voting against the Gem if I am being honest here

Should I do a strong layout with the gem or more of a medium layout if I want the ball the read early but shape

Maybe I'll have to try polishing my Gem then!

@@LuisNapoles definitely! You'll be able to throw it anywhere you want for the most part. 😁 If you don't like it, you can always sand it off.

I use both inserts and finger tape

Shape would be a fast transition downlane and continuation would be a slow gradual motion! 1500 polish would be much longer and angular compared to 1500 sanded

For me I always have to polish these big balls but I don't throw more than 16mph. If I don't they always hit weak unless I throw it absolutely perfect. If you have more average speed you will probably like the sanded surface more. Since the reaction will look more consistent. They all hook if you throw the ball right but continuation is key in bowling

I wish I could get my hands on one!

Definitely can!!!

@@LuisNapoles that would be awesome!!!!

Hey that’s okay! We are all bowlers!!!

Unless you're being sponsored, why limit yourself? Get what works best, it's not like a Storm or Roto Grip is going to fall apart or something.

For the same reason people decide to reply others reply. Just because!! Time to move on.

Proton is my "fun" ball lol idk about my daddy ball! I need to figure out what my new daddy ball is lol

@@LuisNapoles But you strike at will with it, more so than any other ball. How could it not be your ultimate ball?

So I definitely try not to do that you know

Oof that’s a lot of oil!!!

That will come eventually!

Sounds Good

@@LuisNapoles I too would like more info on your preferred drill for the Gem. Thanks

I would say yea it’s medium!

My layouts are all the same. I recently changed them from 45x4.5x45 to 30x5x30

@@LuisNapoles ok. Do you see much of a difference between those layouts?

Nice!

I’ll take a look at this in about two weeks

I would say that stronger balls drilled strong will be your best friend. Like a Gem drilled 60x4x20

@@LuisNapoles thank you sir. Picked one up today along with a Zen. The Gem does work

I had that issue with my first custom ball. Got the gem and its moving great

Interesting

Lets make it happen!

@@LuisNapoles Hi Luis, which league do you bowl in at Sam's Town? I will be looking for a league in the Fall if their are any openings. Thanks.

Definitely will !!!

I want an og Physix so bad!

@@LuisNapoles I believe my rev rate and speed are pretty even because with the OG PhysiX I stand about 30 board lay the ball on 20 board out to 15 on the fresh. Playing way inside to avoid the other 4 on the pair is the only way to get a consistent score. There is only one other right handed that will play in the same area.

I have two PhysiXs, I feel like maybe a Idol Helios is about the only thing that's somwhat close to it. But I've never thrown a Proton so I might be wrong

Yes Tyler ,Michael I also have the og Physix loved that along with the Astro . There really is not anything in the Storm line up even close. Have the Proton but like the Phase 2 better going with the Altered Reality as my big asym. Thanks 😊

@@anthonydorazio9650 good to know. So keep my og physix in good shape and for as long as I can lol

I can. See that

I’ve had a few people mention that 😂😂

Hey I really appreciate that Michael!

My proton prob has 25 games on it

@@LuisNapoles then already slowing down a bit. So my take from the video is equal total hook . But easier length and more down lane shape with physics. Would you agree ?

@@jamesfriday3716 you can take them to a pro shop for a detox and they'll get all the oil out for you, I just stick my Hy Road in the oven on its lowest setting every couple times out and the oil will sweat out.

@@stephenwalker6980 Well I'm also a big fan of the oven de oil. Not for my heaviest oil ball . I've found after a de oil the ball really only acts new for a few games. I don't know if you struggle with heavy oil but with a low track and higher speed I struggled. Until my pro shop guy told me to get off my wallet for the heavy oiler and buy something in the stom family. Since then when it's oily I can still hit 600+ . Not to mention I love using oil soaked balls when the lanes break down . Good luck on the lanes !

Something like a reality or a Phaze 2 even would nicely round out your arsenal! Definitely join the Discord thats linked in the videos description! We chat bowling there all day!

Hope you have enough oil for that! 😂😂

I heard you get a complementary qt. with New Ball Purchase. Gonna need it for the Sahara Desert lanes where I bowl league.

ehhhhh

I'm def trying to LOL Im not a machine

I think there is more of a difference than just the color but yea both are very strong!

Foe me between those 3 balls the order would be 1. Proton Physix Far away 2. super Nova 3. Gem

@@LuisNapoles So your saying based on what I've told you, Proton seems like best option for me right ?

@@LuisNapoles I do remember you saying in one of your videos that Super Nova good option for lower Rev players as well.

Yup! Always a fresh surface!!!!

@@LuisNapoles I also noticed that you have improved your game from far left... I remember you commented a few months back that it wasn't your strong suit... add the right tools as you say all the time, and you're killing it from way left!

Probably like 8-10 MAX on the proton vs 3-4 on the gem

@@LuisNapoles you looked like you were liking the way that Gem kept trucking right through those pins when you would think it would be spent, my pro shop here in Las Vegas is getting the Gems in on the 11th and I'm already in line to get one, I keep running into 35 foot patterns at my house every weekend after youth tournaments, by the time I get on them, all the urethane balls have dragged it even further in spots, I think the Gem will just come back through anything by the looks of it, I can't wait.

This was the pin up Gem

That will all depend on what you’re bowling on!

Tagging onto what i'm looking into, with the earlier ball it'll likely be the Nova as i am speed dominant. as for a pearl, i might go specter or perhaps even an Assym pearl.

I think a closer comparison would be my pin up reality to pin down gem

@@etherealswordsman3214 I your looking for a asymmetrical pearl Altered Reality is the bomb 💣

They are just soooooooo different!!!

I'm pretty sure that both of them are discontinued now =(

If you can hear me now and not before there’s something wrong with ya 😂😂 use your ears to listen not your eyes. I paid good money for those mics I guarantee nothing changed audio wise from before

@Luis Napoles ok bro.. Now, do us all a favor and put the mask back on.

Oof! Between these two only prob the gem but really look into the Storm Infinite Physix

@@LuisNapoles Thanks for the advice. I like the way the Gem rolls more at the backend than the Infinite Physix based on what I've seen so far, so I think I'm going to lean toward the Gem.

@@LuisNapoles Landed on the Gem. Been breaking it in this past week. Just got back from my second outing and threw a five bagger. Didn't have my spare ball on me, but a 203 with the Gem is respectable.

that video drops tomorrow !

Maybe you're using them at the wrong times!

Maybe, I’m not very good so I wouldn’t know the difference of when to use what just go by feel and roll

Its on the to do list forsure!

Absolute would be the weakest there BY A LOT its the proton for me

@@LuisNapoles thank you for the information I do appreciate it.

Interesting take

It’s always different

@@LuisNapoles I’m buying the gem next but I don’t know where to stand I have the phaze 4 right now and I stand between 15 and 10 on the right side

hmmm

It’s definitely at 2000 as I did the surface before filming

I’ve always been free. Still wear a mask when not filming

I resigned from motiv last June then in January I signed with 900 Global

LMAO! also yea I am aware! Def working on it! I dont know how it got sooo freaking high lol I am okay with high as long as my timing is good

huh?