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ROY JENKINS: A Very Social Democrat. 

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Roy Jenkins, UK Home Secretary and Chancellor of the Exchequer in the 1960s Labour Government, looks back at his life and career in politics.
BBC documentary written and presented by Michael Cockerell.

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@tomlebomb
@tomlebomb 11 месяцев назад
Love these old bbc docs, thanks for posting.
@littleshoemaker
@littleshoemaker 8 лет назад
Fascinating stuff, I wish Michael Cockerell was still doing these regularly.
@sanddancer1951
@sanddancer1951 2 года назад
I could listen to Michael Cockerell for hours, even if he were just reading numbers from a telephone directory.
@ZulkifliJamil4033-x6s
@ZulkifliJamil4033-x6s 7 дней назад
Love this old BBC documentary, thank you so much for sharing.
@tnakai1971jp
@tnakai1971jp 10 лет назад
"The public are highly sceptical of a give away budget before a general election." I think he is a brave politician.
@th8257
@th8257 4 года назад
@Paul Gavin ????? He's actually saying quite the opposite. Do you know what a giveaway budget is? A bribe. He's saying the public are sceptical of being bribed. If anything, he's praising the public.
@gmmitchell
@gmmitchell 10 лет назад
been looking for this for ages thank you for posting it
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 Год назад
13:33 where did he go?
@Jcw12349
@Jcw12349 Год назад
Michael Cockerell's documentaries are interesting and fascinating wish he would still do these
@insertclevername4123
@insertclevername4123 5 месяцев назад
The problem is, who's still out there interesting enough to talk about?
@lewissmith3896
@lewissmith3896 4 месяца назад
@@insertclevername4123 Exactly.
@insertclevername4123
@insertclevername4123 4 месяца назад
@@lewissmith3896 Maybe Ken Clarke or Heseltine, but even they're a generation too old now. Steve Richards has a video about Jenkins where he quotes (and agrees with) Jenkins telling him that it must have been terrible being a political reporter in the 90s "because all you have to talk about is Blaiw and Bwown."
@dpf2122
@dpf2122 5 лет назад
Is there a British political documentary produced in the last 30 years that Shirley Williams has not appeared in?
@briandelaney9710
@briandelaney9710 5 лет назад
dpf2122 she was a joiner :)
@briandelaney9710
@briandelaney9710 3 года назад
Dennis Skinner’s riposte to Jenkins was brilliant
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 Год назад
03:45 what about Salman Rushdie ?
@SaintsBill.
@SaintsBill. 11 месяцев назад
no it wasn’t, just plain rude
@iandander2473
@iandander2473 6 лет назад
Woy Jenkins! Good man! Good man! Thanks for the upload!
@willybragg1534
@willybragg1534 5 лет назад
As an American Socialist who can't either identity with either the Militant Tendency nor the "gang of four" from the early 1980's which led to the rise of the Social Democratic Party, the British Labour Party's civil war in the 1970's & 80's were most fascinating...
@liamcdm3689
@liamcdm3689 Год назад
Labour's "soft left" has always been the better faction of the three. Not batshit crazy like the Militant types and not neoliberal sellouts like the third way.
@davidnichol6282
@davidnichol6282 Год назад
He knew the right words to say polite conversations round the political tables. I became aware of his political longevity with a win in a political seat in Glasgow a number of years ago
@19coyote80
@19coyote80 8 лет назад
I like this guy.
@tennis5011
@tennis5011 6 лет назад
I am guessing that you have morals of an alley cat then?
@PeteJones81
@PeteJones81 2 года назад
That speech after getting hit with flour at the Labour conference was pretty f***ing great.
@Iazzaboyce
@Iazzaboyce 6 лет назад
"You had servants!" " No I ....Thirty years ago [When Jenkins was 17] Welsh miners' sons didn't live in houses with many servants as a mater of fact." ..... "The family now [When Jenkins was a schoolboy] had a live-in maid."
@andrewcraig-bennett3659
@andrewcraig-bennett3659 3 года назад
My grandfather was a village schoolmaster. My grandparents had a live in maid on his rather modest salary. This was not considered as “having servants”!
@veggie42
@veggie42 3 года назад
That's when it became posh. Hear Diane Abbott,Emily Thornberry, Harriet Harman and Late Tessa Jowell all were posh speakers too.
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 Год назад
@@veggie42 I'm confused.. please explain
@CAROLUSPRIMA
@CAROLUSPRIMA 9 лет назад
Haven't watched this yet but until now I would have known the name mostly as the author of perhaps the best one volume biography of Churchill ever written.
@tonylove4800
@tonylove4800 2 года назад
Read it may years ago and own it. Truly marvelous book.
@th8257
@th8257 3 месяца назад
He's in many ways the man that created modern Britain. The decriminalisation of abortion, homosexuality and the modernisation of the Victorian divorce laws and penal system he inherited.
@MrDavey2010
@MrDavey2010 4 года назад
Jenkins was a superb reforming Home Secretary. Probably the best of the 20th Century.
@th8257
@th8257 4 года назад
@Paul Gavin the only nasty thing I can see is your comments. You sound like a bitter old man.
@MrReco12
@MrReco12 9 лет назад
52:06...Jenkin's grandson highlights the rudeness of Tony Blair.
@iandander2473
@iandander2473 6 лет назад
Were you a SDP/Liberal voter?
@MrReco12
@MrReco12 2 года назад
@@iandander2473 Was not born at the time, lol.
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 2 года назад
@@MrReco12 Wait how is this thread so separated? Why did it take over a year for you to reply to the guy?
@rogerpenfold117
@rogerpenfold117 11 месяцев назад
What a great documentary. What a fine politician in the league of Attlee and Benn.
@Richard-hv5hh
@Richard-hv5hh Год назад
The highlight of this video is his grandson criticizing Tony Blair. I rather liked Roy Jenkins as I like a classy intellectual with a good sense of humor. He reminded me of my father. He would have made a fine PM.
@tay2229
@tay2229 2 года назад
It's hard to find anyone in any faction of politics who is even one-tenth of the calibre of Roy Jenkins (or Harold Wilson, Ted Heath, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Benn, Denis Healey, Michael Foot or any of his other contempories).
@jazzhands7771
@jazzhands7771 Год назад
Bollocks
@insertclevername4123
@insertclevername4123 Год назад
There's a bit at the very end of "Yesterday's Men" when Wilson's shadow cabinet goes into their meeting room, and just watching the folks around the table--Jenkins, Healey, Foot, Williams, Benn, Castle, Crossland, Callaghan, etc.--and then thinking of the government cabinet--with people like Thatcher, MacLeod, Joseph, etc.--regardless of your politics, that's an amazing collection of heavy hitters on both sides.
@joseluisdominguezpereira9299
He could make mistakes, but I'm totally sure he was an honest man.
@eileenmccabe1149
@eileenmccabe1149 Месяц назад
@@railtonfeagus8539 'Wilson's sex life bizzare.' Sources? Heath wracked by self-loathing? Sources? I won't hold my breath.
@ellibod1
@ellibod1 8 лет назад
I sometimes wonder as a Labour member, how different would life in Britain been if Roy had won the Labour Leadership against Callaghan, or if the Falklands war didn't happen or failed to boost the popularity of Thatcher, which would have allow Jenkins to be Prime Minister either of those times... I seriously think Britain would have been better off with him than at any point under Thatcher, but I guess that for an alternate form of history
@MrDaiseymay
@MrDaiseymay 7 лет назад
YOOOOO IDIOT !! HE WAS A TRAITOR WHO WAs happy to sell our right to democracy, for his rich pals to enslave us in the EU prison.
@tomgibson6801
@tomgibson6801 6 лет назад
if falklands didn't happen foot would have won and jenkins/steel might have replaced thatcher. pre falklands both were ahead in the polls
@thomasalbrecht5914
@thomasalbrecht5914 5 лет назад
Balderdash.
@manaih5652
@manaih5652 Год назад
I think the left-right split was inevitable. I remember Hart speaking after Wilson’s resignation and stating that the party had to choose someone to unite the party. Dragon’s teeth had been planted.
@lucianopavarotti2843
@lucianopavarotti2843 6 месяцев назад
Compare Jenkins as Home Secretary to Suella Braverman and you can see how low our politics have sunk.
@JamesRichards-mj9kw
@JamesRichards-mj9kw 4 месяца назад
He was a complete disaster.
@lucianopavarotti2843
@lucianopavarotti2843 4 месяца назад
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw Ah, right...
@JamesRichards-mj9kw
@JamesRichards-mj9kw 4 месяца назад
@@lucianopavarotti2843 Jenkins destroyed the UK with his vile "reforms".
@JamesRichards-mj9kw
@JamesRichards-mj9kw 4 месяца назад
@@lucianopavarotti2843 Jenkins was wrong about everything.
@briandelaney9710
@briandelaney9710 3 месяца назад
Never a big fan of Woy but you are right about this
@mistery4437
@mistery4437 8 лет назад
He certainly got it wrong about Tony Blair.
@MrDaiseymay
@MrDaiseymay 7 лет назад
so did all the shit for brains idiots who bought into that americanised bullshit style of promise -em everything--like Corbyn.
@fearlessjoebanzai
@fearlessjoebanzai 3 года назад
@WOOF !, yeah man. One of them was a convincing liar.
@Thoughtbubble788
@Thoughtbubble788 5 лет назад
08:13 Those same 5 year olds will now be 27/28 years old. I'd be quite interested to hear what any of them think of Roy's legacy now.
@veggie42
@veggie42 3 года назад
I was nearly 3 in 81 when he quit Labour with 3 others. In 2018 it happened again with Change UK.
@andysouth6624
@andysouth6624 2 месяца назад
Most 27/28 year olds will have no idea who idea who Roy Jenkins is
@thisiszaphod
@thisiszaphod 7 лет назад
18:22 to 18:41 sums up his politics entirely from the POV's of notion and execution.
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 Год назад
19:00 leave the EU. We are a proudly sovereign nation
@grahamjones5400
@grahamjones5400 Год назад
I'm an American and I've been following British politics since the 90s, and as an outsider looking inward,, Roy Jenkins was an institutionalist who believed that's institutions were the center of human civilization and that anyone or anything outside those institutions had to put back into the sheep herd or get sent off the butcher shop.
@richardlaversuch9460
@richardlaversuch9460 5 лет назад
Keith Joseph was not the only politician barracked by students.
@veggie42
@veggie42 3 года назад
Owen Smith was the new Roy Jenkins. When Corbyn was challenged for a re-election, I saw Roy Jenkins and Michael Foot. McDonnell as Benn.I realised Blair was following Gaitskell.Funny how history now has repeated. Starmer is Sir John Major of Labour no wonder Bercow likes him.
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 2 года назад
Hell no they had much more class than what we have now.
@dulcesolum
@dulcesolum 7 месяцев назад
well that goes without saying
@richardlaversuch9460
@richardlaversuch9460 5 лет назад
Was it Jenkins who said of himself: "Playing a fuddled fiddle in the muddled middle."
@tobyyorke2539
@tobyyorke2539 3 года назад
No idea but great quote!
@SimonPageSA
@SimonPageSA 7 лет назад
RIP Dame Jennifer Jenkins
@tennis5011
@tennis5011 7 лет назад
Yes indeed...she must have had a really shit life putting up with that scoundrel. What a rotter he was!!
@tennis5011
@tennis5011 4 года назад
@Paul Gavin Then all i can say Paul, is that she must have been an absolute fool if she didn't care. Talk about cake and eat it!!
@brianrodney5202
@brianrodney5202 6 лет назад
Roy Jenkins just did not have the ' common touch'. I recall seeing a bit of newsreel of him campaigning for election in some Scottish continuency by waiting outside a Bingo Hall to approach people as they exited. At a loss what to say, he took a leaf out of Her Majesty's book and asked " And have you come far ? "
@chrisbayes2972
@chrisbayes2972 3 года назад
"That was pwurwe parwanoia on his part" - On Wilson believing Jenkins was plotting to overthrow him.
@richardlaversuch9460
@richardlaversuch9460 5 лет назад
Why do people hide behind pseudonyms?
@chrisbayes2972
@chrisbayes2972 3 года назад
38:50 looks like Degsy Hatton making his way to the stage to try and assault Woy of the Wadicals...
@lon3don
@lon3don Год назад
Fergus must be about 37, a man of judgement, he gets my vote.
@markbailey1970
@markbailey1970 5 лет назад
Genius or a man
@markhayward7400
@markhayward7400 Год назад
Roy Jenkins is one of the greatest UK politicians of the 20th century, in my opinion. Just look at what he achieved as a liberalising Home Secretary in the late 1960s. Neither the legalisation of abortion nor the decriminalisation of homosexuality would have happened when they did without him. He wanted a more civilised, humane and equal society and took steps to achieve it.
@DLZBGMO
@DLZBGMO 3 года назад
I just wish he lived to see Brexit
@veggie42
@veggie42 3 года назад
Imagine him and Benn! Shirley hasn't long passed away. Today it's like Change UK.
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat 7 месяцев назад
I'll admit that would of been interesting to see his reaction to that, given that he is so fanatically pro EU.
@13strange67
@13strange67 Год назад
Is this also the man responsible for legalizing : Abortion ; Homeosexuality ; Pornography ? Discuss.
@kayedal-haddad
@kayedal-haddad 9 месяцев назад
Did he eventually join the Lib Dem’s?
@jayd4ever
@jayd4ever 8 лет назад
at least he represented in his liberal views
@jazzhands7771
@jazzhands7771 Год назад
.....what? Try that again, in English
@ggff3761
@ggff3761 5 лет назад
Calling him a Welsh miners son is bit rich considering he grew up with a live in maid
@barbarapineda5730
@barbarapineda5730 3 года назад
Hes a Welsh, united kindom, roy jenkin, hes a nother indivi.. Don't go.theres with me. I'm not a play toys either.
@MVERLAINE1
@MVERLAINE1 6 лет назад
A truly great man and more importantly a great European
@tennis5011
@tennis5011 5 лет назад
An immoral, working class traitor, who was responsible for everything wrong in our society today.
@MVERLAINE1
@MVERLAINE1 5 лет назад
chris holley Jenkins never claimed to working class and his reforms on legalizing homosexuality brought this country into the 20th Century instead of being stuck in a repressive, backward looking rut.
@tennis5011
@tennis5011 5 лет назад
Mark Thirkell Yes, Jenkins may have never "claimed" to be working class, but he jolly well used a working class movement (The Labour Party) to further his own career. Roy would have been more suited to the Liberal Party. However, we know why he didn't join them...they would never have been to elected to government that's why!! So, he stuck his "sticky" paws into Labour instead!! Homosexuality?? Please don't make me laugh. Roy only changed the rules because he was "hanging out the back door" with Anthony Crossland. Yes, persecution of gays is not good. However, was it really worth all the hassle to "appease" 1% of the population, when "screwing" up the other 90 odd % in the process?? Divorces, abortions et al now leaves us living in a society every bit as immoral as the homosexual society Jenkins adorned! A "Doctor Frankenstein" of the highest order!!
@JC57515
@JC57515 5 лет назад
Mark Thirkell a massive dichotomy in thinking
@JC57515
@JC57515 5 лет назад
Mark Thirkell enabled child abuse on a massive scale
@5888max
@5888max 9 лет назад
When I was young, stupid and left wing I thought he was a disaster for splitting the left wing vote and allowing Thatcher in I now see that was the service he did the country
@5888max
@5888max 9 лет назад
***** Can't remember What I had in mind in January . But he did help anchor Britian in Europe and he ensured that the Tories had big enouth majorities in the 1980's to do all the necessary reforms that I stupidly opposed at the time -
@5888max
@5888max 9 лет назад
***** I won't phrase it quiet like that but yes
@5888max
@5888max 9 лет назад
***** No I think Government's have no business running things like Airlines and telecom company's and when they do they do it badly and they provide a poor service and are a Drain on the productive parts of the economy. By selling them into the private sector they become more efficient provide better service and make profits so pay taxes and dividends . Shares on the stock exchange are mostly owned by my and your pension funds . If a foreign company purchases them the money is available for our funds to invest else where which is possibly going to be outside the UK - t took we many years to realise these fairly simple facts so I don't expect you to grasp it now- but if you are not wilfully stupid you will one day
@5888max
@5888max 9 лет назад
***** That is possibly so However a government will force you to pay up or services it has decided to provide by force of law you can go to Gaol for not paying taxes. A corporation, say a privatised company like BT or BA must convince you, you want to pay them -if you don't care for what they offer you can go elsewhere or not bother at all ,so on balance you can use your limited power better if these companies are in the private sector
@5888max
@5888max 9 лет назад
***** Last message because the Peado stuff is nuts. But you seem to have agreed that airlines and telecoms should be private- as for gas and electric before privatisation the government told you who you had to but it from and at what price. Now there are numerous companies you can choice from ,and if you dislike them or their price you can go elsewhere
@thomasruud2238
@thomasruud2238 Год назад
Good god, how despicable the students were at 4:40 to 5:41
@kg8489
@kg8489 Год назад
They are right though. He was lying. And they clearly had a point that he did not belong in a socialist party.
@loungejay8555
@loungejay8555 3 месяца назад
Filthy scousers, what do you expect?
@richardlaversuch9460
@richardlaversuch9460 5 лет назад
Jenkins was an elitist. There are people with less intellectual power and far greater understanding of politics.
@eileenmccabe1149
@eileenmccabe1149 Месяц назад
Hard agree. Very clever man - but a snob.
@adrianmolm715
@adrianmolm715 9 лет назад
OVER--TIME
@aananhenderson2689
@aananhenderson2689 3 года назад
he was also bisexual
@Bastiat90
@Bastiat90 10 лет назад
His books weren't that impressive; merely a summary of the works of much cleverer and more engaging historians. He never had his own ideas.
@Myndir
@Myndir 6 лет назад
Like Ian MacLeod, he was a smart man and a great socialite, but unlike e.g. Michael Foot, Enoch Powell, Winston Churchill, or Arthur Balfour, he was no intellectual.
@hughoxford8735
@hughoxford8735 4 года назад
A truly depraved man
@th8257
@th8257 4 года назад
??????
@harmlessdrudge
@harmlessdrudge 4 года назад
That's ridiculous. What ever you may think of his politics, he was a principled man who sacrificed his standing in the Labour Party by resigning in 1972.
@radioandtvmemories6178
@radioandtvmemories6178 2 месяца назад
Awful politician
@nigelbarrett4091
@nigelbarrett4091 5 лет назад
A traitor to his party.
@bigphil2053
@bigphil2053 2 года назад
Am utterly useless politician
@jontydenton1898
@jontydenton1898 4 года назад
Bent...good timer...dodgy fecker...what a contrast to Tony Benn....a man straight and true and never caught averting his gaze in clear devious fashion like old bacon pig woy!
@th8257
@th8257 4 года назад
WTF???
@stevebbuk
@stevebbuk 3 года назад
He held his own in this Europe debate: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_zBFh6bpcMo.html
@rogerpenfold117
@rogerpenfold117 11 месяцев назад
Shame that it’s such a shock to the system when a politician answers a question he’s asked! How refreshing.
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