If you are going to protest you need to accept consequences, there’s no point protesting if you’re not willing to take the consequences. Muhammad Ali protested by refusing to fight in the Vietnam war; his belt was stripped and fines etc. but he stuck by his beliefs! People need to be willing to sacrifice if they want to protest against or for something, otherwise it’s just a fashion statement or meaningless gesture imo. Basically prorest ir don’t protest but don’t be wishy washy about it
@@drdasslerhe's not saying that though, is he?. Alexey Navalny said ' You may think you have principles, but unless you are willing to stand up for them and bear the consequences then they are not principles but just thoughts in your head'.
When Quinton de Kok (South African cricketer) refused to “take the knee” for BLM in the World Cup he was abused and lambasted for it despite being from a mixed race family. He said it’s one thing to support something of your free will, another thing to be forced into it. He ended up getting dropped from the game against West Indies.
Why u assuming the whole England squad doesn’t agree with homophobia? Bigots so quick to slam Islam for denying western freedoms but actually they agree on a whole lot…
Because they don't believe in it, they just want to act self righteous for the plaudits but when faced with any resistance they crumble like a pack of cards
@@nehanabbasi9081 except that they don't exactly follow the rules of the countries they're in, can an openly gay man go walk into a mosque in England without persecution or ridicule? I very much doubt that
@@mariia099 it's amazing how Qatar showed a middle finger to westerner hypocrites. World powers are shifting for good, your next generation ll spend their lifetime figuring out their gender so your future doesn't seem bright. We don't want your values (mental ill nesses) in other part of the world.
While Britain and Western Europe slide into irrelevance on the world stage, the standard of living decreases, unhappiness and the quality of life worsens, we have these silly distractions to keep people occupied, as though the homosexual agenda were an important issue in most people's lives. It gives fools a reason to feel good about themselves, it undermines the cohesion of the nation, and it keeps people arguing about a trivial matter rather than address the real problems facing ordinary men and women.
Same with the black white stuff. Both black and white are surviving on food banks and sleeping in cold homes. Billionaires couldn’t care less about the colour of each other’s skin or beliefs, their skin is green and their belief is wealth. It’s the poor that end up at each other’s throats when they only have breadcrumbs between them
Yeah very irrelevant, Just having highest Living standards be it in Humans development index, Wage, security & Safety & having highest per capita an Average over 60,000 $ & Have strongest passport rating that can travel to more than 100 countries without Visas, Universal Healthcare, Job security etc........ I think it's enough for Qatar bot or Usual merica bubble living no passport Tv couch 🤳 traveller😅.
Lets be honest a bit of the blame is on us We have allowed this shxt to go on for far too long They think they run the place You know I'm right being nice doesn't benefit anyone
@@Brooks1874 That doesnt have anything to do with that, my friend. If you stick to your beliefs you still have to accept the freedom of others as well. If your beliefs restrict the freedom of others, im not sure about those beliefs. Its not like some rainbow flags are hurting you.
Its not forcing beliefs, its preventing discrimination, you dont have the right to discriminate against fellow humans , you don't have the right to be a racist or a homophobe or a sexist @@Aerojet01
Absolutely spot on...when it comes to kneeling every match it costs them f--k all...but when someone threatens to give teem a yellow card...they've got a yellow streak down their backs as long as the pennine way. Principles go right out of the window when it comes down to me, me ,me.
What do you mean? Why did you play in Russia and going to play in the US? There is no world where these two countries are more humane or haven't killed innocent people more than Qatar. This is just idiotic propaganda. So allegedly workers died in Qatar build the stadium? These construction companies overseeing the projects arent qatari even. Also last I checked, global powers like the US are slaving miners in congo (actually killing them) to mine their own resources for them and that is all good? Double standards. Hypocrisy.
The key word here from Keane is, if you have the "belief" then go with it. I think many are being forced to believe rather than believing of their own volition.
That life though. You have to deal with it. Its not all about you. There are many things that i rather not see, so what. Its life. I rather not see all the ads packed on everywhere in sports.
Football and all sport should be apolitical. Teams aren't protest movements. If you are unhappy with the politics, don't agree to play and stay at home. If you agree to play then just play the game and leave politicking to outsiders.
The captain's armband is to show the player is the captain not to show his beliefs. Just stick to football, Harry Kane is a good player and he should focus on the goals not the colour of the armband. Good decision by him
Sport and politics go hand in hand as soon as it was globalised and football being the biggest sport makes it also the most affected by politics lad. Now I know ur gonna say some crap about no its not but then I bet uve also mentioned how football is the most beautiful sport because it can help people come together like in world war 2 where they had a kick about so don't give me that crap about it not being political.
FIFA’s have introduced politics to world football with its decision to hold a tournament in a country which it’s beliefs date back to the stone ages! FIFA are answerable to know one now and there president has a free rein in that organisation so it’s to the players to make a stand….enough is enough!
@@ayushgurung8885 that is your problem LAD football should be about football maybe you haven’t noticed but it’s not just Muslim countries people that are filling those stadiums stands the vast majority of people going to a game of football or any sport with serious fan bases and rivalries are there to watch the game,support their team, go nuts and gloat when they win and cry and say they got lucky if they lose they do not care about any of this shit even if they do not morally agree with it
Football is also part of Life, So does the politics & everything. Arm band represents the support to Humans & Question the Mediaeval letterboxes on their treatment of womens & Humans rights. Isn't ironic u same batch that Go gaga 😭on everywhere when it's about belief 😅, Same happening here but just following 21st century & human decency of showing Support oppressed people. Btw Kane wear but Letterbox buddy Fifa board said no.
England were not banned from wearing rainbow armbands by Qatar. They were banned by FIFA who categorically doesn’t allow for political messages in games.
But it's double standards as usual. Russia banned but iSteal gennnocide not, even after the UN declared it a pariah state. The violent political BLM group was allowed to be plastered all over the EPL.
Well then why did they make an issue out of it,only to back down because fifa honchos got scared of the quatarians, the sheep followers of football don't like rocking the boat,something's are bigger and far more important than football, like human rights, equality, and the treatment and safety of migrant worker's who built these big glossy stadiums.
it's amazing how Qatar showed a middle finger to westerner hypocrites. World powers are shifting for good, your next generation ll spend their lifetime figuring out their gender so your future doesn't seem bright. We don't want your values (mental ill nesses) in other part of the world.L
@@-k5703 Well if they don't like western hypocrites, why beg to have a tournament in their little precious country, knowing full well that the vast majority of football team's Participating in it, will be from these western hypocrite country's that you are referring to, if they don't like western values don't put yourself forward as a canidate then, they have absolutely no football history of any description, bonkers decision to hold it in the middle of a desert country.
@@conoconnor4375 it's a world cup, not "West Cup" or euro Cup. Such arrogance and ignorance in your post, if West got a problem who says they need to participate? World is made up of many countries and it doesn't revolve around western values so shov all that nonsense up where the sun doesn't shine. You come to play football, don't bring your nonsensical values with you, we don't give two Fs about your mental dis orders
If someone wants to wear an armband that is about tolerance and compassion then that is fine. People should not have to wear anything they are uncomfortable with.
@@greglyons2526that alone doesn't make them tolerant. Russia allows LGBTQ players in their basketball league, but we all know thier attitude towards it.
Why no major protests for Olympics in China ? Real men and women would have protested that place but no too dodgy , so in my opinion STOP picking and choosing it’s ALL or nothing
So you have to protest against everything if you want to protest at all? Thats a cheap way to try to stop people from protesting. And has no logic behind it, of course.
No.. we won't send you to jail. Just don't do it. If you a foreigner and you over do it, we may deport you. .. Qatar didn't ban nor care about this BS.. FIFA have it own armbands and the rules says all captains has to wear FIFA's armbands (which has no rainbow crap on it). It's like showing up to Wimbledon with coloured clothes and complaining why they will not allow you to play. The rules say white-only cloths. Someone should defy that and wear rainbow attire to Wimbledon or other coloured cloths with BS excuse that white only is racism 😂.. We will see how whinny Brits will react.
Keep all politics ideology religion and sexuality, and charity from sport not everyone agrees with what they stand for its devisive it ruins the game and has no part being there.
any of these players that push this armband know well that it won't do their own financial agenda any harm wearing these things, ordinary fans walk pay into a footy stadium to leave the bullshit of society at the turnstyles
Maybe he just doesn’t believe in it so did not wear it! Funny how these LGBT people talk about bullying but as soon as you are not agreeing to their beliefs you become the bullied.
I loved it, they made the whole country look like idiots. Everyone is forcibly participating in this absolute shambolic display of virtue signalling. And this WC proved that that is EXACTLY what it is, virtue signalling. When people genuinely care about whatever it is they believe in, they'll die for it. These guys won't even take a card for it. They don't give a fuck, neither do I, but they pretend they give a fuck and it is exhausting.
I remember when we had to fight like hell to get the poppy armband ban lifted. Don't really understand why they've allowed the gay pride stuff so freely up till now. Thought fifa's stance was "no political messages".
Thats the hypocrisy of the west. Back when Man city won the cup with mahrez scoring the winning goal, mahrez waved a palestinian flag in supports to them, guess who was fined because "politics and football are not to associate"... like children dying is political, but groomers wanting anal sex is support for human rights. Just a big hypocrisy.
Ukrainian flags are fine at football matches throughout world, Palestinian and Russian flags not so much. But yeah, not politics, unless it’s the politics we like
It's embarrassing several times I've been embarrassed by this shit by people abroad saying hey english gender gender people like you don't relise the damage your doing, l Britain is gay people actually said to me o yea everyone is gay ther telling ther friends like its a fact ,I swear first person I catch that's responsible I'm pulling ther ear n giving them a boot in the arse ,until I get an apology
England should just not bother with football and just invest that money in their LGBT support. Who gives a toss about ones sexual identify or friggin preferences? It's football, get on the damn pitch, play and get off. Sick of all these bs now.
@@katya5573 because gay people have been persecuted for a very long time and they seek to normalize it. They shouldn’t have to hide it. Plenty of straight people are very open about their straightness.
@@leonthethird7494 I didn’t know straight people get mad if u didn’t wear a “straight flag” arm band or force people to support them even if it ruined their careers..
This is football. Such nonsense shouldn't be advertising in this beautiful game. that's it . Who feels it knows it every religion is against it and should not have been in football
Disagree, leave politics out of the game, if you don't like what they stand for , don't have the tournament there. Also Bale wold have been off the pitch and not won and scored that penalty. He was booked for a tackle which would then have been two yellows. Keane has become a virtue signalman, it took Wales 64 years to do this, and we have to listen to Captain Pugwash chatting nonsense, get a shave Clough would have told him and wind your neck in.
@@steaks652 No, Bale wouldn't necessarily have been off the pitch, because the game would have played out differently. If he got booked for wearing the armband it would have been a completely different game. Perhaps the Welsh team would have been angry and more fired up, and maybe they would have won the game 3-0 instead. _Any_ change during a game can completely change the outcome.
@@steaks652 You should probably do a bit more research on it then! Keane was complaining about the facilities (standing up for what he believed in), and he was "sent home" because of it, and the argument that followed.
@@steaks652 Mick literally said _"I sent him home"_ and if you want to hear it from the horse's mouth, then here you go: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3GzRbxQlHms.html
Just play the fucking game. The whole point of international sport is countries meeting regardless of politics or ideology. We don’t get to pick and choose.
England fi8tball team is full of hypocrisy. Henderson taking the Saudi doller. Southgate refusing to comment on it. Rice changing who he plays for same with grealish kane should of wore it not bottle it.
Hypocrite... seriously, you have no idea what you are talking about.. and yes, football sold it's soul to the devil a long time ago.. but then I guess you believe all phones and iPhones are clean with no blood on it as either... Just for the record I do not watch the bbc.
@@saeef123 you all know that’s not the case... Germany did it and nothing happened... but let’s say that is even the case... why fear if you know you do the right thing? What more beautiful dying defending humanity? It’s all BS, they know it’s a wrong thing therefore they won’t risk anything defending them... most you tubers are warned not to go to the World Cup or they get canceled... it’s so that they don’t expose the truth... once they show Qatar to the world everyone knows the west was bluffing for years...
@@saeef123 it's amazing how Qatar showed a middle finger to westerner hypocrites. World powers are shifting for good, your next generation ll spend their lifetime figuring out their gender so your future doesn't seem bright. We don't want your values (mental ill nesses) in other part of the world.
Stick to football. They only had 12 years to complain about the hosts. Leave it alone now. It should have been settled off the pitch ages ago. Even if it's effective, the players shouldn't be used as pawns for political agendas. Acting this way can potentially lead to the corruption of football and sport in general and also is unfair to the players themselves
@@NikoHL are you sure it's about human rights and not politics? Why then hasn't the USA ever been banned from a tournament after being in so many wars during the 20th and 21st century which has resulted in the death of millions? And please don't say "whataboutism" because what I'm saying is very relevant. If you can't apply the same rules for everyone there must be a problem. Also, the other aspect of it, which I touched on a bit, is why should the players and citizens of the country suffer due to decisions made by their governments or organizers. And I never said that there was no reason at all to change the host in the first place but like I said they had 12 years to do something about it. Complaining about it once it has already started and using the players as tools to do so seemed pathetic to me
The stick to football line doesn't work. Politics affects everything. Russia is currently banned, do you agree with this? South Africa was banned while under apartied rule, did you agree with this? In 1974 Arab nations refused to play Israel, do you agree with this? Germany was banned from football for 5 years after World War 2. The list goes on. As you can see football has always been political. People say it hasnt but it has. That can't and shouldn't change. Footballs popularity make it a good reflection of society and some of the potential areas we need to work on and therefore makes it a massive voice for change, especially as it is the biggest sport with roughly 3.5 billion fans worldwide.
Critically he says: '... if that's what you believe' Are we supposed to imagine that 11 footballers all feel strongly about the issue let alone hold it up as a 'belief'? They are footballers. That's it. Its all quite silly and dubious.
Keane comes out with some nonsense. Who are we to tell qataris how to live their lives? Who determines whats right and wrong? This is not my beautiful house. This is not my beautiful wife.
First time I’ve disagreed with Roy. Every Country has the right to govern themselves how they see fit. Who the hell are a bunch of footballers to go to a country and tell them they are wrong. Best protest is to not show up
@@haghuro9843 with all due respect Britain has no right to comment on that type of matter they did it more and in almost every country on earth they cannot pretent to be the saints of the world now if you say history does not matter then why do white people somehow owe every other race for atrocities hundreds of years old western culture ignores its own problem and constantly tells everybody else how they are wrong you are not making a difference or turning the world into a better place all you are doing is making the world people hate each other even more
Saudis murdered a journalist, the USA are protecting them. The USA destroyed Libya. Britain invaded Iraq in an illegal war. I'm not saying you are not right, but many of them cannot be pointing fingers. It's a complex issue. That said, this world cup from its core stinks of corruption, bought and paid for. So no surprise. An armband wasn't fixing any of that.
@Horace__63 I care that people care and that this sh*t is perpetuated by our culture. There’s so much bulls**t to distract us with and it’s constant. Do you give a sh*t about the content in this video really? I’d imagine not. Why the fu*k is it discussed and why the f**k does it come up on my feed
@Greg Lyons just like how Jesus raised the dead and made a bird of clay and blew life into it, by the will of God. islam hadn't reached South India, but when the moon split even non Muslims witnessed it and reported it among whom was s Hindu king. Who later brought Islam
Don't believe in wearing the armband full stop but lost all respect for Wokegate after this. Banged on about it and his captain sore the armband in the safety of England but then to bottle it in Qatar showed him up as a virtue signaller.
Initial black player, captain and international captain (from the team that the first International stadium was built around (after both the inaugural men and women’s football internationals) was Andrew Watson of Scotland! In the 1800s ( Despite what the FA have been writing) They produced the ‘Scotch’ professors, the ‘beautiful’ passing game and football around the world eg Argentina and Brazil….. how things change! - they were overtaken big time- but we forget what it was about.
@@KevinSheedy10 damn bro how can you missed that guy point? What he is saying is, if you want to open up about controversial topics, then the other also deserves to say what they think is right. Example: war in the middle east, but guess where the most protests are? exactly. So stop trying to be so open minded bro, your brain might fall off.
I go to the match because I love football and to escape all the nonsense being shoved down my throat everywhere else. And here it is, rainbow corner flags, goal nets, armbands and laces, Ukraine flags above the stands, BLM squares on shirts, kneeling on the pitch and announcements over the speakers about how to behave and what to believe in. And that is all before kick off.
just sounds like you're deeply miserable in life and you look for things to get angry at. Geniunely how does looking at a flag affect the match in any way? You're just looking for an excuse to take your misery out. God forbid people want to show unity and love, how will you ever watch football again
@@jamesalsworth7015 i mean why did it matter so much that you had to put it into football in the first place, kinda gives of vibes of major insecurity.
I don’t agree with a lot of the LGBT movement with the wearing of provocative clothing and BDSM shit in public. Saying that’s it’s not fucking woke to show solidarity with gay and trans people. They can’t choose their brains. If you think is it a choice and all gay/trans people are lying you live on moon IMO and misunderstand how complex our minds are. Trans people shouldn’t be in opposite sex sports and i don’t think they should use bathrooms that’s not the original biological sex (yet anyway). To dismiss them as just freaks is weak minded though. Easy to hate and judge, it takes strength to show compassion and understanding. What they go through must be hell.
Roy Keane is a closeted gay, i noticed that a long time ago. Nothing wrong with it, but he tries to hide it under the ''masculinity'' and football. But it's very obvious, he's like Kevin Spacey. Actually both Roy Keane and Kevin Spacey have very similar personalities. They're both posh, well-spoken, politely aggressive, sarcastic, rude.. They are not masculine men, but they're still dom/top, they like young boys. They are like soft predators, slimey and cunning. I bet Keane listens to classical music while doing his nails, looking at pictures of young players like Phil Phoden lol..
Roy totally right.. I fulliishly believed many footballers would do the right thing and refuse to play in protest .. how wrong was I... Football has unfortunately sold it's soul to the devil. I actually can't even comprehend what it must feel like to be in these stadiums knowing the blood shed... Our values are deminishing and a threat to society. Very disappointing.
You're thousands of kilometers away from qatar behind your phone screen making discriminating assumptions like that. You probably watch bbc and believe everything they say. Qatar is hosting a great world cup. There's no discrimination, great hospitality, beautiful sharing of cultures and all in all just a beautiful vibe. But bots like you surround themselves on some stupid media and believe everything 1 to 1. State the positive instead the very, less negatives. I guess you're the one selling his soul to the devil, making unjust aasumptions like that. Gay people still live and exist in Qatar, they just dont publicize it, just like heterosexual acts are forbidden to showcase in public. Its not only your anal lalaland having restrictions, its the countries law to not publicize obscenity for every sexual orientation, period. Dont be such a hypocrite and inform yourself the right ways, you conceited pessimist.
Kobe, Jordan, Ronaldo would never be bothered by such bullshit. The real killas kill, they would never let this even enter their heads as a distraction , that’s the difference between the top guys and the Harry kanes .
@@barriniho It's lame. Portrays himself as mr. no nonesense but promotes ridiculous behaviour like getting an unnecessary yellow for a pointless political gesture.
@@jamesashfeld4230 he received many uncessary yellow and red cards in his career, but they were all his choices and he has no regrets, even on the bad tackle on Haaland.
Disagree with Roy completely, we are guests in another country that have a different set of beliefs, and who are finding its way, the west telling countries how to act is extremely arrogant and have no right, we can't even have civil discourse anymore so clearly we need to sort our own mess out before trying to be the morality police for the world👍🏻
Sooo you're saying that you agree with the poor human rights and homophobia and poor women's rights just because we (Europe + America) have a war going on in Ukraine. And your point once again is invalid lmao. The majority have come together on this issue and we shouldn't have hosted it here. Period.
Says Nehan Abbasi. By the name and grammar we know you are writing us from one of those super developed countries. If you like it so much, ask your countryman why is Europe flooded with your people? Becouse it's shit. Just to give you an answer so you don't struggle.
its a football world cup, football is for everyone, period. if the country isnt okay with that, which is is their right ( a fucked up one), they shouldn't be hosting it in the first place. simple.