Sir you are a genius in finding a method of fitting those springs. I must admit removing the mudguard was a bit of a faff . Your method should be adopted by Royal Enfield and your adapted parts should be included in the spring kit. When I purchase said springs I will be definitely following your method. Many thanks.
Glad to have been of some assistance to you. I’m not sure that I would have kept the springs on my bike if I had used the Royal Enfield method. Great to hear that you enjoyed my wee video 👍🏍
Great to hear that you enjoyed my video 🏍👍 Interesting to hear where the company started from. Royal Enfield don’t seem to be putting a foot wrong these days, turning out some great bikes.
Hitchcocks finally have these in stock and mine arrived today. For those that don’t have bits and bobs to fit as TN has here’s an alternative solution that requires nothing else and still without removing the mudguard. I accept this will mean one more step to remove the saddle for say , tappet adjusting. So, remove saddle by removing the 2 long bolts leaving the saddle bracket in place. Remove the rear saddle bracket bolts and discard. Next, orienting the springs at their narrowest as TS showed attached the springs as per introductions but use the Allen bolts not the long hex bolts shown in the instructions. Next fit the black lugs to the springs using the 10mm Allen bolts provided as per instructions and tighten. You should now have the whole assembly fitted as if it were on the bike. Now simply locate the cut-outs of the lugs onto the bike frame and push the whole saddle backwards to allow the tank locator to engage. Now, using the hex bolts provided (I added 2 nuts onto the bolts so that the hex nut doesn’t spoil the paint on the lugs but it’s not necessary for a good fit) and with a little fiddling locate them through the lug and finger start them in their threads before using a ratchet spanner to tighten. I found pre threading and greasing them before a great benefit as the threads in the frame are a bit tight or may be corroded, this made getting them started much easier. Replace the 2 long bolts and tighten. That’s it’s. Removing the saddle is as before with the addition of the 2 8mm hex nuts on the spring lugs. Hope this helps others here.
Hi Stuart, great to hear that you enjoyed my video and method of fitting the seat springs.👍 I didn’t always have such luxuries surroundings to work on my bikes 🤣
Excellent idea, like your thinking. I have 5 Royal Enfield's at present and will probably be adding one of these in due course so i will definitely be employing your excellent short cut when that occasion arrives. All the best from the Gold Coast, Australia.
Thank you Sir for this. I removed my pillion seat today and will add the seat springs soon. You answered my question also about the necessity of the springs. You said they are decorative for the most part. I wasn’t sure and need to ride my motorbike before purchasing the springs.
Great to hear that you enjoyed the video and hopefully found it useful. The seat springs are purely decorative and do nothing to improve the comfort of the seat. They’re purely a bit of decorative bling 🤣👍
That's the best method I've seen for fitting the springs. Also, you've got the added bonus of being able to remove the seat easily as well. If I ever do remove the pillion seat and fit springs I'll be sure to do it this way.
Thanks for watching the video good to hear that you enjoyed it and that it will make fitting your springs easier if you ever get round to fitting them.
Sir, this is a wonderful idea. I'm glad I stumbled on this channel. Now I'm Subscribed :) I actually own a RE Continental GT650, but I'm planning on swapping it for a Classic 350. Love its character and looks, and I'm not interested on speed. Your videos have been very informative for my decision. Thanks!
Thank you for your kind words and subscribing to my channel. There will be some interesting things coming up regarding the Classic 350 in the next month or so which may interest you. Cheers TN 🏍️👍
Cheers Marc, thoroughly enjoying making some new videos featuring the Royal Enfield. The Channel is starting to take off as there is a lot of interest in these great wee bikes. Looking forward to seeing your new RT sometime soon.
Well : I said I'd copy your idea and almost did exactly as you did today. I was a tad worried as I've fitted a solo seat rear chrome rack and wasn't sure if it would foul the springs ( it does not). Retained the two Allen bolts and as you used a cut down allen key as the brackets wont be coming off although it was fiddly to tighten them. Any hoo the push on two rubber spring mounts work super so a big thanks for that idea . it looks super dooper and is a doddle to remove the saddle as you said Thanks again Lee
Recently fitted springs to my bike too using a very similar method to yours. Royal Enfield’s instructions for fitting this decorative-only part to the bike are massively over-complicated and unnecessary. It would be a different story if the springs were functional of course but they’re not. This method is also much better if swapping seat units (standard seat to lower or touring seat) as the only thing to do is to unbolt the spring from the existing seat base and bolt it to the new seat. Simples! Having said that I did remove my mudguard to wax protect the underside with Bilt Hamber and can confirm it does come off really easily 😂
Excellent work TN. I wasn’t so much dreading taking the mudguard off to fit the springs it just that one would have to do that each time you wanted to remove the saddle, ridiculous. Well done. Now, you were lucky enough to have the bits and bobs to achieve this but I guess most here won’t. Any chance you can list the specs for what is needed please so we can pop down to our nearest hardware store in one go?
Great to hear that you enjoyed my wee video and that it’s inspired you to do something similar. This was my interpretation with the things I had available to me, I’m sure there’s a way to improve it even further.
Great to hear that you enjoyed the video and found it interesting 👍😁 Unfortunately without taking my bike apart I don’t know the exact sizes of the parts used. They were all bits and pieces that I had on my collection of nuts and bolts. You don’t have to follow exactly as I’ve done, it’s just my interpretation of the issue.
I just finished mounting mine. What I did is placed the kit's Allen screws into the seat and the equivalent hex screws into the frame. No removal of the fender.
Since your rear fender is chrome plated or chrome in finish, I guess this helped prevent any scratches or scuffs on the surface. Too bad there isn’t a spring seat for the 350’s that is functional. It couldn’t “hurt” more.
I agree it would be nice if the springs actually worked, but they look good 😁 I have the low ride height seat on mine and I find it pretty comfortable, No worse than most bikes. I’ve done some long days on it, maximum 350 miles, you so tend to squirm a bit near the end though 🤣. Hope you enjoyed my video 👍
Hi Ross Great to hear that you enjoyed the video and hopefully found it useful. Sorry, but without taking my bike apart to measure the bolts I don’t know the exact sizes. It was a mixture of the bolts that came with the springs and some other bits I already had lying around. Improvisation was the name of the game 👍
Brilliant.......Royal Enfield should pay you for your design......can you please list the size/length of the bolts, spacers, rubber cover and O-ring. This would be greatly helpful. Thank you
Great to hear that you enjoyed my video 👍 My modification was done with bits and pieces I found in my boxes of bits. It simply shows an alternative way of fitting the springs. It should be easy to do something similar after following the video.
Im going to copy your brilliant idea mate on my (still running in ) red and chrome beauty The original fitment is imho a total pigs ear and what a lot of mucking about when its tappet time. Still a shame they didnt make it an actual sprung saddle kit doing away with the back bolt and make a front pivot point
Brilliant video as usual and very clever work around. . I have to say though - ever since I was a kid looking at faux rivets and levers on my toy cowboy gun, I have always hated fakery like these non functional springs. I will be fitting a short arse seat (low rider) to my new bike, but it won't have any springs on it. If they don't do anything, why have them?
Absolutely brilliant! At the beginning of the video, I was thinking I'd just give my spring kit away. Thank you so much. I do have a question. What is that on your rear fender?
I agree with you the Royal Enfield method of fitting the springs is terrible, good to hear that you may be fitting your springs after watching the video. in an earlier video I mentioned that I had scratched the rear mudguard, to cover it up I’ve put on a small Royal Enfield bullet transfer to cover it up. We all make mistakes from time to time. 😩 Great to hear that you enjoyed my video.
Super solution! I've just bought a set of springs and a touring seat, so will certainly use your method, Was going to use hex bolts rather than the supplied allen heads, but that still means going through the faff of taking them on and off to remove the seat when thje tank needs removing.. Don'd suppose you have any info of where the rubber pieces can be obtained? Thanks a lot....Best regards...Pete
Well done, I have the same bike and it came with a touring seat plus springs but it’s a little to high, so I want to fit a low rider seat plus reuse the springs so will use your plan for refit cheers Bob. Ps is that a low rider seat on your bike???
Hi Robert Great to hear that you enjoyed my video and thank you for your supportive comments 👍 Yes my bike has the low seat in that video. I prefer the low seat as you sit more in the bike than on top of it if you know what I mean.
Question, I heard you say "the sprigs do nothing only there for appearance/decoration?" so what is the point of having a pair of springs attached to the seat if it is not functional, Brill vid for improvement though.
Hi Great to hear that you enjoyed my video 😁👍 That’s correct, the springs are purely cosmetic. They’re there to make the bike more like the earlier Royal Enfield models that did have working seat springs.
Brilliant video. I have just bought an identical bike and intend to fit a set of springs to the riders seat and the rear seat is already removed, as I have no use for it. I will definitely use this method. I watched a couple of other videos on fitting these springs and they were as much use as a cat flap on a submarine. My question is about where you got the springs. I have looked on eBay and there seems to be a few different types and the prices vary enormously. Can you recommend the best option please? Many thanks. P.S. I love your garage.
Great to hear that you enjoyed my video and found it helpful. 🏍👍 I got my springs from Hitchcocks, see link. accessories.hitchcocksmotorcycles.com/46884?cont_page=Royal-Enfield-350-Classic-Accessories&page=2
@@tigerness5555 Clicked on the link but they are out of stock. I got the part number from them and ordered a pair on eBay. Many thanks for your help and I will follow your channel for more videos like this little gem.
I have what is probably a stupid question: Are the springs only decorative and not functional, as you said? Don't they provide a sprung support to the back of the seat? Sorry if I have misunderstood. Update: Ah! I think I understand now. The seat is "hard-bolted" itself to the frame. So the springs will not be flexed at all.
Yes the seat is fixed, it doesn’t move on the springs. With older Enfield models the seat was supported on springs and did move up and down with the rider. The springs on mine are purely decorative to emulate the older style.
Hello, I wonder if You could help me with a couple of questions about these seat springs. First; does the installation of springs increase seat height when using standard seat? And then does the springs have any additional suspension effect or are they just for show? Thaks!
I've just ordered my 350 classic signal in grey, or green as it appears to me. Will be fitting, what seems to be the "standard" mods, as most people seem to be doing. My problem will be the exhaust, as hitchcocks don't do a black version 🙄 I'm thinking either getting it ceramic coated or wrapping the down pipe and getting the silencer shot blasted and spray with VHT matt black (which doesn't last, in my experience) anyone got any other ideas? Will definitely be referring to your videos when fitting the fuel x, (very tidy job) sprocket, exhaust etc. Have you changed the air filter and intake? Regards Mick
Sir these springs are for aesthetic purpose only. but these are still springs and all springs have lateral movement . That why all qualified engineering professional not rely on friction to hold springs on place on a moving bikes/cars in uneven road
Thanks for your comments, hope you enjoyed the video. How I’ve fitted the springs works for me. They are solidly fitted and have no lateral, or any other movement during riding. 🏍👍
Ian just a quick question? what size of rear bolt did you use when fitting the low rider seat,? I realise the original one is to long as it also holds the rear seat frame, just had Eccosse fit my new bike with a touring seat and only just realised today that they have only fitted 1 through bolt and couldnt be bothered to fit the rear one and sent it out like that! I would never use these guys again from buying the classic to being let down on an arranged pick up day and shoddy workmanship , after I my complained Martin the owner said he will personally pick up the bike to get the seat rectified as he lives near Forfar where I am and apologised for his staff not carrying out in depth pre delivery inspections. Really puts you off buying from them again, the experience was a total shambles
Hi Mike, I purchased mine from Hitchcocks along with a few other items, see link below. If you remove the single bolt holding your seat on it will be the the same size as the one you need. Hope this helps and you enjoyed the video 🏍️👍 accessories.hitchcocksmotorcycles.com/47836?cont_page=Royal-Enfield-350-Classic-Accessories&page=6
@@tigerness5555 I will leave it to Eccosse to be frank! I just thought that giving them the bolt size would entice them to get one in, really was treated badly by these guys , contemplating getting another Enfield but certainly will not be going back there.
Hi Manoj, hope you enjoyed the video. The chrome springs are a genuine Royal Enfield accessory but I changed how they’re fitted to my bike. Unfortunately there isn’t any modification kit that you can purchase to do similar. All the parts I used were from bits and pieces I found in my garage. If you follow the video it should be easy to do something similar should you wish to. Hope this helps 👍
It’s in exactly the same position. The springs are purely cosmetic and do not give any springing to the seat. Hope this helps and you enjoyed my video 🏍️👍
Hi Mike, that’s a difficult question to answer. What one person finds comfortable another finds uncomfortable. I personally like the seat and can ride all day, only finding slight discomfort after around four hours. It’s harder than the standard seat which I found rather soft and squishy. I also feel that I sit in the bike rather than on it with the standard one. Others prefer the touring seat. As I say hard to answer. Hope you enjoyed my video 👍
@@tigerness5555 ive just picked up the same as you the chrome version from Ecossse at Dundee and have had the touring version fitted , not rode it yet as ive had it ceramic polished before it hits the road, the seat seems taller than the standard and kinda throws you a little forward , so i was wondering as to how the low rider was , like you say the low one makes you sit in the bike rather than on top But I must say the touring seat looks brilliant, going to wait a while before performance upgrades once the engine has settled in.
Enjoy your fabulous new bike. I wouldn’t rush into performance modifications again knowing what I do now. There’s very little actual increase in performance, it’s mostly more noise. I’ve actually returned mine to standard gearing, standard exhaust and removed the FuelX. I’ve never had a DNA filter. The bike’s now back to the brilliant little bike I fell in love with. It’s no speed machine but it most definitely gets under your skin. Out of my three bikes the Classic 350 is the most fun.
@@tigerness5555 did you still keep your decat box and fit the original silencer, back on ? thats what a few people recommend, instead of a full straight through Hitchcock exhaust, the say the original silencer sounds good with a decat box why did you remove your Fuel X ( what is yor Name ?instead of refering to you as Tiger ness
It would be good to do a video on what you wouldny change or add if you had your chance again it would be very helpfull to new owner indeed and make a refreshing change to having to spend more money to try and make a great bike better and through experience find out they dont make make a massive difference to a original well balanced bike
Clever solution to a poor design. Curious as nobody has questioned the purely cosmetic nature of the springs. Why not making them an extra bit of backbone suspension? It was like that in the past and there is no reason it couldn't work now. Pitty...
Great to hear that you enjoyed my video and hopefully found it useful. I’m sure someone with a bit of engineering know how could easily make a traditionally sprung seat for this bike.