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Royal Mail trains to run no more, inside the Severn Tunnel & priorities for new Government | Ep 41 

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@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
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@ChrisExley-sk1fh
@ChrisExley-sk1fh Месяц назад
I missed the live podcast due to attending a retired railway colleagues lunch at York. Trying to spread the word.
@davidsewell4705
@davidsewell4705 Месяц назад
Hi Guy's I decided to respond to your request for people living abroad to contact you. So here we go, I live in Shanghai and accidentally stumbled upon your site on utube. I immediately subscribed and have been an avid watcher ever since. Fantastic content and very entertaining. Congratulations on your research and the interviews you manage to secure. Carry on the good work it is great to listen and get a little update on the UK rail network. Very best regards David Sewell, originally from East Yorkshire.
@marktownend8065
@marktownend8065 Месяц назад
As a young signalling design engineer in the mid 1980s, I had to walk through the Severn tunnel one night to measure up for a cabling system in connection with a new alarm and telephone system to be located in the refuges. We arranged to meet up with a local PW gang at Severn Tunnel Junction who were to be our guide and lookout. They insisted we met in the local staff club and bought us a couple of pints of Brains to 'sharpen the senses' before heading out towards the Welsh portal (it was the 80s!). After walking through the entire length to the English end and completing our survey we walked back to Sudbrook and took the lift up to the pumping station where we were met to be taken back to the station. The local men at the time could detect a train approaching ages before it arrived just by subtle changes in pressure. The Brains must have worked!
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Alcohol to 'sharpen the senses'!!!!! What a terrifying notion - a totally different world then compared to now, thank goodness!
@marktownend8065
@marktownend8065 Месяц назад
@@GreenSignals It was the 80!
@ianjones4116
@ianjones4116 Месяц назад
Nowt wrong with the 80s. Hi viz around my waist , shirt off while shoveling. 😁👍​@@marktownend8065
@Cartoonman154
@Cartoonman154 Месяц назад
Thought he was going to say Johnny Cash 'Hear My Train A Comin''. Anyway, selling the Royal Mail in 2017 was a crime in itself.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Please do not give him any more ideas to break into song....
@sg5881sg
@sg5881sg Месяц назад
I can't believe these videos are over an hour long - the time just flies by. Excellent editing on the Severn tunnel item. You captured everything perfectly on this once in a decade event. Could you do a similar item on the Royal Albert Bridge over the Tamar.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Thanks Steve. I confess I was a bit concerned when I started reading that opening sentence - but I relaxed fairly quickly! Glad you enjoyed the Severn Tunnel piece - The Royal Albert Bridge would be wonderful, although I don't even know if something is possible. It would also have to be Stef or Nigel as I have a truly debilitating fear of heights. Hence why I'm fine in a tunnel!
@amazoniaamazonia7225
@amazoniaamazonia7225 Месяц назад
There’s never been a greater need to get goods back on rail, our road system is at saturation point and replace fast electric trains with more lorries is ludicrous, letter mail demand is a shadow of its former self but this has far been outweighed by the huge increase in small parcel traffic. The cost of electricity will be a factor, but more likely cessation of the remaining rail traffic is more likely the start of asset stripping of Royal Mail by Kretinsky.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
I'm not sure there are that many rail assets in RM to strip.
@amazoniaamazonia7225
@amazoniaamazonia7225 Месяц назад
@@GreenSignals I meant Royal Mail in general.
@scottturner5655
@scottturner5655 Месяц назад
Still loving the podcast, the time, effort and dedication which goes into these each week and not forgetting the specials which all makes for great listening, the kids at home are fed up of me putting Green signals on so that must be a sign your are doing a great job!
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Excellent! Now the challenge is to convert them into Green Signallers too...
@scottturner5655
@scottturner5655 Месяц назад
@@GreenSignals it’s working on the wife, the teenager could be easily persuaded but with the 5 year old you have a challenge there!
@mbak7801
@mbak7801 Месяц назад
How about the Swiss system. GA annual ticket 3995 CHF (£3461) for adults, 3040 CHF (£2634) for over 65s. A second class ticket for almost every public train, tram, bus, most boats and some cable cars (discount for others) for any time on every day in the entire country!! This makes commuting and holidays super simple. Totally achievable. The only reason this is not done in the UK is that transport is run and financed by amateurs who play games but will not spend proper money.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
It would be interesting to know the ratio between taxpayer support and farepayer contribution in Switzerland. It is after all a high cost system to operate.
@marktownend8065
@marktownend8065 Месяц назад
@@GreenSignals The infrastructure is especially challenging in the mountainous parts, i.e. most of the country! The valley topography and associated development patterns help to concentrate population along valley floors however which tends to funnel traffic along narrow corridors. That makes rail convenient and essential to moderate road traffic on the valley roads. If they've got to maintain all that infrastructure anyway to run any kind of service, they might as well try to use it as much as possible. Similarly, if there's subsidy required for operations, they might as well carry as many people as possible for a given figure. Their policies seem to have ensured Switzerland is second only to Japan in public transport usage. There are some fringe 'motor freedom' lobby groups but generally transport hasn't become a significant political issue as in some nations. There's broad consensus across the spectrum that good alternatives to the car are positive and necessary. The result, rather like the Netherlands, is a good road network and generally happy drivers, partly because the roads rarely become heavily congested when many people are able to choose alternatives.
@buzzukfiftythree
@buzzukfiftythree Месяц назад
Well said. The main difference between the UK and Switzerland is that the Swiss regard rail transportation as a social necessity and the Swiss population, by and large, accept the need for significant taxpayer subsidy. Even those that don’t regularly use them accept that encouraging travel by rail means that it benefits those that use the road and, given that all the railways have overhead electric power, it benefits the environment.
@mikehindson-evans159
@mikehindson-evans159 Месяц назад
Hang on, the 325s were parked once in the past!
@marktownend8065
@marktownend8065 Месяц назад
Thanks for clarifying the issues around mail on rail. I had already seen a statement from RM where they said they'd continue to use a mix of road rail and air. The more widely publicised DB statement did not mention this at all. The 'only 3%' figure is a bit disingenuous rather like passenger figures on rail generally. If that's measured in letter/parcel kms, it doesn't accurately represent the much larger proportion on specific trunk longer distance corridors for which rail is viable. I expect the real issue, along with any fleet condition concerns, is the contract with DB for their upkeep and operation. A different operator might find a way to insulate the customer more from short term fluctuations in traction power charges among other varied conditions. There might be opportunities for new player Varamis to take over this business. It's interesting the new prospective owner of RM is a nascent player in the UK electricity generation market with gas, biomass and grid level storage installations already. Daniel Křetínský's background is firmly in gas, making huge profits in recent times from the Slovakian national pipeline system in which he owns a 49% stake and which is (still) imports Russian gas to Eastern Europe. He previously acquired many former communist era state industry assets in various countries, not in initial privatisation rounds but soon after from those first buyers. He is also now investing in media and sports interests, including Le Monde and West Ham. Le Monde journalists had an industrial dispute over it fairly recently.
@head-shunt2385
@head-shunt2385 Месяц назад
Great episode, we loved the Severn Tunnel portion, Paul used to regularly visit the tunnel 25 years ago when he was Ops Manager Sth Wales. Great to see safety measures to keep people including Richard safe in the tunnel. Keep going with a great series. Paul; & Fiona - Headshunt Mental Health Charity.
@TheDaf95xf
@TheDaf95xf Месяц назад
Thanks Richard Nigel & Steff 😊For the most interesting railway channel by far giving us the most up to date information about what’s really happening on railway with great humour thrown in making it fun to watch. I loved Rail magazine for years but this beats it hands down. Well done all of you and keep up with the podcast Stevie 👍🏻
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
You are really kind Stevie! Thanks for being so generous and glad you love the show. We have plenty of new ideas planned....!
@user-ws5bn1rq2i
@user-ws5bn1rq2i Месяц назад
Thank you so much for your weekly bulletins. So full of informative content and rail news that I would otherwise not be aware of. Embarking on a Saturday,14 hour day time rail journey from Royston to Thurso with 4 changes of train, hoping all connections will go smoothly.
@user-ws5bn1rq2i
@user-ws5bn1rq2i Месяц назад
Mike from Royston
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Cheers Mike and really appreciate the super thanks! Do hope you enjoy the trip to Thurso. My memories of it are behind class 26s then later 37s. Not sure it's quite the same railway experience these days - but at least it is still there!
@user-ws5bn1rq2i
@user-ws5bn1rq2i Месяц назад
Thank you so much for your kind comments. All ran on time today, no missed connections. Now on 5th and final leg to Thurso passing Muir of Ord. LNER leg from Peterborough to Edinburgh overcrowded due to earlier cancellations. Edinburgh to Inverness on a 46 year old HST, again over crowded, 4 carriages not enough. Sadly showing their age, unhygenic toilet facilities. Thurso/Wick left 10 mins late as had to wait for late running inbound Glasgow service, but infomed will make up the time. Excellent wifi and USB charging. Also miss old 26s/27s/37s had character with Mark 1s and run arounds.
@ianthompson1976
@ianthompson1976 Месяц назад
Hi Both. I really look forward to each week, probably what could be quite technical is easy to understand, covers an incredible breadth of topics, and now I approach middle age, I even appreciate the"old boy" humour! Wandered if there might be a story in the availability of lifts at stations. A friend of mine who uses a wheelchair commutes into London. Lifts at both Stevenage and Welwyn Garden City have been out of orders for weeks / months. As a Stevenage resident, he either has to take the train to HItchin or Haltfield and get a taxi. It is great that so many stations are now accessible, but not if the kit doesn't work for long periods. It just got me thinking about what the picture is like nationally.
@TheSimonhardacre
@TheSimonhardacre Месяц назад
Sir Peter Hendy was famously a shy and awkward public speaker until the day he went and kissed the Blarney Stone, The Legend is true ☘️
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Right.🤦‍♂️
@BassandoForte
@BassandoForte Месяц назад
Having experts in Government for the first time in nearly a decade and a half feels so refreshing... 👍
@DOCTORDROTT
@DOCTORDROTT Месяц назад
pmsl
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Indeed it is refreshing.
@ChrisExley-sk1fh
@ChrisExley-sk1fh Месяц назад
Thanks! I've been actively spreading the good word to my rail friends
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Marvellous - thanks so much Chris - and for the super thanks!
@MarcelosalivaTRENESArg
@MarcelosalivaTRENESArg Месяц назад
Excellent video my friends awesome like 👍🏻 Greeting 👋🏻 from Argentina
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Welcome to Green Signals!!
@Blinky05
@Blinky05 Месяц назад
Another listener from Christchurch, New Zealand. Just discovered your podcast on You Tube. Loved it! Thanks guys, from Blinky
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Thanks and welcome aboard Blinky!
@DesiroDriver
@DesiroDriver Месяц назад
Been listening to the audio version since day one. This was my first video viewing, what a great one to be greeted with! The Seven tunnel footage was fascinating. Great episode as always.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Glad you enjoyed your first video version! We try to make sure that audio only listeners don't miss out on all the fun, but of course you get something that bit special by watching it too.
@alistairkewish651
@alistairkewish651 Месяц назад
If it’s only handling 3% of the mail,that’s in itself very sad. Nothing can compete with rail in terms of speed and efficiency. Why send it by road?
@NewCityMedia
@NewCityMedia Месяц назад
Interesting. This was a bit of a surprise to me though as I had thought that mail by rail had already more or less ceased in the early 2000's. I'll never forget seeing a massive investment being made on a sorting centre in Tonbridge in the mid 1990's, attended by the then quite new 325's, only to see it closed and abandoned just a few short years later. Surely mail by rail is better in every respect than by road, and the 325's are only about 30 years old.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Yes, the decisions taken some 20 years ago were short even by the short timeframes that so often bedevils the railway when it comes to investment.
@winco68
@winco68 Месяц назад
I think you’re confusing this with the TPOs that ceased in 2004. Those were trains where Mail was sorted on board. The 325s were introduced as a direct link for pre sorted mail by rail in and out of London to various destinations. Royal Mail own the fleet of 325s but they’re operated and maintained by DB Cargo. As the fleet ages maintenance costs are growing and RM has decided it’s cheaper to hire a private operator’s trains instead of their own.
@NewCityMedia
@NewCityMedia Месяц назад
@@winco68 Yes, I realise that. Aside from the trains, My main point is that, using the Tonbridge rail centre as an example as I passed it whilst commuting every day, there was clearly a highly significant investment in, not only a large mail hub, but new track, points, bridge work, signalling and all the rest, for it to be abandoned after only a few years.
@winco68
@winco68 Месяц назад
@@NewCityMedia Yes that was typical of Royal Mail and its short sighted approach at that time. A fortune was wasted in the creation of new rail hubs at mail processing centres. Nine were created in the mid ‘90s but due to a policy change in 2003 it was decided to move mail onto the roads. This was due to a combination of alleged poor performance by EWS that was affecting quality and an assumption that point to point would become quicker by road with an improving motorway network. Incidentally just a year after the switch some direct mail was switched back to rail utilising some of the mothballed hubs. In the intervening years traffic has increased and 4 of the original rail hubs were reintegrated back into the network although Tonbridge wasn’t included. That has been pretty much the case until now with Willesden, Warrington, Shieldmuir and Low Fell seeing regular daily trains. Due to the Network 24 review the train up the WCML continues but the ECML trains to Low Fell have been cancelled. A new spur to link the Midlands Super Hub at Daventry has been completed but as yet no trains have used it. I’m told the intention is to run trains from there to Glasgow via Warrington. Which trains and operated by who is anyone’s guess at the moment.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
@@winco68 Hi there. If you had a moment to email us on info@greensignals.org, would love to chat in a bit more detail about this subject. Cheers. Richard
@Wacky_Races
@Wacky_Races Месяц назад
Fascinating article on the Severn Tunnel. Bravo 👏🏻
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Thanks, it was a rare privilege so we were delighted to be able to share it!
@Richardhill1978
@Richardhill1978 Месяц назад
Great show and the quiz is a bit of a tricky one this week
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Cheer Richard - and glad you think it's a bit of a brainteaser....!
@chrishall6364
@chrishall6364 Месяц назад
Thank you for another very interesting and insightful episode!
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
You're most welcome Chris!
@frananmar1
@frananmar1 Месяц назад
.Re Royal Mail story , ......" and there's a slow , slow train runnin' " , might be appropriate . As I wrote elsewhere , this has been on the cards for a while , possibly why they didn't change the Royal crest from ER to CR on the side of the units . Great video as usual , cheers .
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Re the crest, I think you may be giving someone, somewhere too much credit!
@davidredgewell7415
@davidredgewell7415 Месяц назад
We need more bus rail coach ferry integration lord peter Hendy the right man for this in England
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Yes, a well thought through (though also cost effective) approach to integration would be welcome.
@mikewright1607
@mikewright1607 Месяц назад
Hi Green Signals folks! Tuning in (so to speak) from Perth in Western Australia. Will be heading back to the UK shortly to partake in the first visit of a Class 40 to Skegness in 40 years! Maybe see you on the train Richard, given your avid Whistler enthusiasm?
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Hi Mike Lovely to hear from you in Perth - which is also where my wife grew up going to school, university and starting her career there. Love the place and especially heading down south (though for reasons I can't imagine, I always struggle going any further than Margaret River.......!) Sadly I won't be on the Skegness trip. I have a prior commitment that day that it would be bad to cancel. But I shall be there in spirit! Enjoy.... Cheers. Richard
@steveworthington930
@steveworthington930 Месяц назад
As an Ex Warrington taxi driver, I used to drop off Mail unit driver,s to the Dallam Depot.They informed me their train had priority only surpassed by a Royal Train! As an aside, Fiddler,s Ferry coal train,s kept 56 road wagon,s off the road per MGR! Times 24 train,s a day at peak.
@class87srule
@class87srule Месяц назад
The writing was on the wall for rail when they removed the TPOs and shut rail colkections at Crewe Station. This was followed in 2013 by shutting Crewe RM Sorting Centre and moving to Wolverhampton, retaining Warrington Rail Centre. Mail from Newcastle under Lyme to Newcastle under Lyme is now transported to Wolverhampton, sorted and brought all the way back to Newcastle under Lyme. Crazy,!
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
The TPOs really had had their day as an operation and the end of those was inevitable and sensible. I fear the big question is for how much longer are we going to require the kind of Royal Mail letter and parcel service that we have all grown up with. Very different world today than in the not that distant past.
@marktownend8065
@marktownend8065 Месяц назад
@@GreenSignals I wondered whether it might be possible to operate automated sorting machinery on a moving train. I also thought about recreating the historic on the move collection and delivery functionality using drone technology. Landside posties could await a delivery in a safe roadside landing area rather than having to go trackside. Then I realised the OHLE might be a problem! Realistically, stopping onboard sorting was the right thing to do. Railnet was a good system originally envisaged with BR division Rail Express Systems. Unfortunately new owners EWS appear to have run it into the ground. There's an article about it somewhere by a seniorl manager of the time. They refused to give the immensely time sensitive traffic sufficient attention or resources, treating it as if it was just another aggregates working. The gauge corner cracking crisis following Hatfield also had a catastrophic effect, slowing many major routes simultaneously.
@allanmorton6022
@allanmorton6022 Месяц назад
With the mail story surely the biggest issue is lack of lorry drivers, where will they get them from? Agree, electricity prices need to drop. Excellent trip into the tunnel. Really interesting having a vibrating safety device. Great 6 point plan with all the right priorities. Action needed now. Don't forget about resilience and issues caused by micro managing crew rostering by software. Be interested in your views on Virgins proposed open access plans which are so extensive they are actually an alternate rail service. 35mins for £3 is great value.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Thanks Allan. I think Virgin's west coast open access plans need knocking on the head and quickly. We will not fix the performance issues on Avanti by bringing on aboard a competing operator. Rather, we will simply make the performance challenge on the route greater whilst abstracting considerable amounts of money from the public purse. Wonderful PR. Lousy idea.
@LearnwithJanice
@LearnwithJanice Месяц назад
Hello from Kansas 🇺🇲
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Howdy from the UK and thanks for joining the channel - hope you like the show!
@IBLRG
@IBLRG Месяц назад
Thanks from us all at The Independent Brigg Line Rail Group. Sir Peter Hendy needs to spend as much time out of the office and visiting the railway network and communities, don't get into the comfort zone, visit places on forgotten lines and communities.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Thanks - really, really appreciate your support. Totally agree with Peter - but I know from experience that he likes nothing better than getting out and about and talking to people at their point of need. Very positive feeling about that.
@iman2341
@iman2341 Месяц назад
Probably not the biggest priority on the railway but the W and Wales could probably really do with a 2nd Severn Tunnel running from Parkway to Magor.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
I fear you are correct........it's not the biggest priority by some distance!
@mrcogginsgarage7062
@mrcogginsgarage7062 Месяц назад
Great to see you have been in Pilningshire looking at the Seven Tunnel Richard ,shame you didn't have time to look in and see what's left of the most loved least used Station that once was Piling high level.. It's sadly underused these days with only two trains a week calling and that's only on a Saturday and both trains are in the same direction up only Great show again this week especially pleased to see Lord Hendy appointed.
@TrenyCwm
@TrenyCwm Месяц назад
Great to see Royal Mail ticking that sustainability box.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Quite.
@gordon3178
@gordon3178 Месяц назад
I'm from the Tyne and wear and used to travel around on the tracks on the dmu 101's while seeing the transition to the Tyne and wear metro and still waiting for the new trains to enter passengers service as the new trains we can walk from one end to another without leaving the train as the old trains consist of two carriages coupled together I wonder what people think about the new trains as the seats go along the sides of the train and has less seats than the old trains
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Visually, the new trains look great - but I agree, it depends on what passengers think when they start to use them.
@sg5881sg
@sg5881sg Месяц назад
There are only a few stations on the Tyne & Wear Metro where capacity is an issue. It is mainly a high acceleration railway not a high capacity tramway. The comfortable seats with views out the front and rear of the carriages made the Metro special. The people of the North East are communicative and the booths allow for conversations between friends and acquaintances. Switching to a tube-like layout would dull the atmosphere on these trains. It doesn't always pay to copy everyone else.😢
@kenstevens5065
@kenstevens5065 Месяц назад
Liked your comment on electricity prices for the electrified network when discussing mail by rail. Yet another case of too far too fast to achieve nett zero.
@vlt14
@vlt14 Месяц назад
The new station is named after the Baltic Triangle, which is close by, it will be built at the site of the old St James Station that closed in 1917!!
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Excellent, thanks for letting us know about that!
@stephendavies6949
@stephendavies6949 Месяц назад
PS: forgot to ask Richard whether he found the "strategic reserve" of steam locos whilst inside the Severn Tunnel....?
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Shhh! That’s meant to be a secret!!!
@staffordian
@staffordian Месяц назад
Another enlightening and fascinating episode, really interesting to see the Severn Tunnel close up, and on the more important topic of Labour's approach, let's hope they can translate their words into actions pretty quickly. They could do far worse than listening to you two! Cheers, Rob
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Cheers Rob, And thanks so much for the Super Thanks! Really appreciated.
@user-en4vm6wm2t
@user-en4vm6wm2t Месяц назад
Just to add to your geographical spread, I am a confirmed fan of Green Signals in Taiwan. Thanks for a great show and keeping me up to date on railway affairs in the UK.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Fantastic! You're very welcome. Glad you enjoy the show.
@JohnSmith-xi3sq
@JohnSmith-xi3sq Месяц назад
The team size issue is very difficult to resolve. I worked for a time on a very large Rail Project. I was part of a cost control team & we all found it almost impossible to persuade managers to reduce their teams even as they moved their part of the program to fruition.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
It requires a ruthless approach. Some can do it - but most can't (although I recognise you have to be in a position of authority to be able to make it happen).
@JudgeGeneHunt
@JudgeGeneHunt Месяц назад
What you guys were saying about complexity.... I've worked for donkeys years in procurement in huge international oil and gas projects. I spent two years at HS2 and the complexity of the procurements I was involved in, of every step of the process and of the attached governance was just ridiculous. It takes a huge team 2 years to do something I would have done on my own, in my oil and gas work a few months at most. To this day I wish I could get a shot at redesigning their procurement process and getting rid of a lot of the complexity (and the additional work they create to try to make it less likely that they'll get challenged in the courts, which I felt actually could give people looking for a way to challenge stuff they don't like more to argue about.
@stuart48br
@stuart48br Месяц назад
Liverpool Baltic - "A historic industrial area, it has numerous maritime connections, getting its name from the many companies based in the area which trade with the Baltic countries."
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Excellent, Thanks for that!
@jonesrob
@jonesrob Месяц назад
Thanks
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Thanks so much Rob, that's really kind of you.
@juliansadler6263
@juliansadler6263 Месяц назад
This channel came up in my feed for the first time and I have subscribed. Y Rhath (Cardiff).
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Well are more than welcome aboard! Thanks for subscribing!
@antcraft3590
@antcraft3590 Месяц назад
Really enjoyed this weeks show as always - especially appreciated the segments on the Severn Tunnel as well as the clarification on the Mail train situation. Every time I hear about them doing major works in the Severn Tunnel, I do wonder, wouldn't a tunnel just be a lot easier and cheaper in the long term, both when it comes to the physical costs of asset upkeep and replacement, but also the disruption to traffic (which yes, is well planned to be as minimal as possible, but isn't non-existent). But there's also the idea that should, and I really hope not, any mistake happen in those tunnels during the frequent maintenance work like the drainage being damaged the tunnel flooding, there is no other good alternative to cross the river. As much as I'd love the extra traffic through my area, it'd never be practical in the long term to send all the traffic through Gloucester here should the tunnel become unusable, for just so many reasons. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but I do think there'd be a lot of benefit to having an new tunnel under the Severn, albeit be a full replacement or to supplement what we already have. As for the Rail situation, I have to agree that's it's quite wild that in an age where we need to be cutting down on our carbon footprint, Royal Mail seem to be pushing for an expansion of road transport. I think you covered a lot of points on here well enough, so I won't mention those, but maybe one of the bigger issues with it at the moment is the fact that in this Multiple Unit era, Mail trains are harder to implement, and for a lot of places, there's not enough demand for dedicated Mail Trains. Ofc, the 325s work well atm, but as far as I know, they travel the E/WCML north and south, likely cause there would be the demand for it. But of course, back in the day when things were loco hauled, it wouldn't be uncommon to have a parcels wagon of some sort on the rear of passenger trains. So, of course I'm not saying we should go back to the old way of doing things, but maybe the answer is to try and find a way to replicate this in the modern world, and get mail back on passenger trains in some form in a way. Maybe the first step could be mail wagons on the back of the Caledonian or Riviera sleepers, helping increase their profitability. But, who knows, there's usually a lot of nuance and complexities in these situations, and it may be less feasible than I think.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Really can't see anyone making a business case (on financial, economic or social grounds) for a new tunnel. What Network Rail are doing now is effective, preventative maintenance and renewals. I'm afraid your suggestion of adding wagons on the back of trains just wouldn't work for a whole host of operational reasons. But I agree we do need to think a little out of the box....
@antcraft3590
@antcraft3590 Месяц назад
@@GreenSignals Yes, that's true, without a business case for it, then yeah, no new tunnel would ever happen. I guess my view point is just with how how hostile the conditions are in the tunnel, then a new tunnel would just make everyone's lives much easier. Of course, matters are never that straight forward though, and like I said at the beginning, it's more so just whimsical wonderings on my part really. But I just wanted to make it clear that I think NR are doing a great job keeping on top of it despite all the environment of the tunnel really working against them. Also thought I should provide clarity on my mail ideas - idea wasn't to put wagons on the back of every train, would never work like you say. I only mentioned sleeper trains as small example, since sleeper trains are still loco hauled and their timetabling would probably work in favour of it, but there's probably factors I'm not thinking of there.
@RobertDaveyD1022
@RobertDaveyD1022 Месяц назад
Another great episode, thank you!
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Thanks Robert, glad you enjoyed it!
@GreenJimll
@GreenJimll Месяц назад
I have to say having seen a Royal Mail unit going past my train the other week I was surprised they were still using rail at all, as I thought they'd ditched the tracks years ago! I doubt most voters would know or care if trains carry mail. After all it was much more visible to the general public that some of their local posties used to cycle their rounds on Pashley bicycles for many decades, but that's been a thing of history for years now.
@gordondudman240
@gordondudman240 Месяц назад
They did for awhile because the performance offered by Railtrack was so dire. But NR upped their game and just using their EMU Fleet (Class 325) RM returned to long-distance runs to Scotland (Shieldmuir), the Northwest (Warrington) and the North East (Low Fell)
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
It's certainly declined a lot over the years and, as you'll have heard in the show, they're already only transporting 3% by rail.
@winco68
@winco68 Месяц назад
@@gordondudman240Low Fell is finished now. It’s only Willesden to Shieldmuir via Warrington now. Although the Midland Super Hub at Daventry has a rail connection built into it so there’s a possibility that trains may run into there at some stage via the WCML at Rugby.
@martindooley4439
@martindooley4439 Месяц назад
The Baltic refers to the part of Liverpool docks that was historically associated with timber and other goods from Scandavia.
@nigelharris6873
@nigelharris6873 Месяц назад
Ah, right, thankyou!!
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Brilliant, thanks.
@julianroberts8760
@julianroberts8760 Месяц назад
Very interested in Richard's General Election poll analysis comments. I hadnt heard elsewhere that a proportional representation system would have given us a Tory&Liberal Government - though does that not depend on the PR system employed? Sorry you didn’t give the Green Party figures equivalent to Reform and Liberal you did cover. On the Post Office, surely didn't they abandon rail once before, only to then return with slimmed down network using the then new emu's?
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
In fairness Julian it's a somewhat artificial stat I created. The point has been made by other views, fairly, that there would have been an impact of tactical voting in this election and therefore had PR been the model from the outset, those tactical voters would have voted for their party of choice, not the one they did actually vote for on the day to achieve or at least try and achieve a tactical result.
@jamesgilbart2672
@jamesgilbart2672 Месяц назад
Great discussion. Gone are the days when inter-city trains had brake coaches where mail sacks could be stowed. That enabled the obvious practice of carrying passengers and mail at the same time. Maybe one day that simple concept will be reinvented??
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
I fear those days are gone too - A multiple unit railway is here to stay......
@winco68
@winco68 Месяц назад
There simply isn’t enough letter traffic to justify nowadays anyway. Today the majority of letters are non urgent advertising material or hard copies of things emailed previously. Over 90% of traffic is parcels which are containerised and too bulky for stowage by rail unless on a dedicated service.
@johnarnold7870
@johnarnold7870 Месяц назад
Great show again!
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Thanks John!
@jrail1992
@jrail1992 Месяц назад
Re: Liverpool Baltic, so named as it will be in the Baltic Triangle area of the city centre. Ex industrial area, now home to various bars & restaurants.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Thanks!
@little_britain
@little_britain Месяц назад
I listen from Sunny Southern Ontario, and I really enjoy catching up on railway chat. Frankly, I thought they had already stopped using rail for mail.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Great to hear from you in sunny (really?) southern Ontario! Only kidding - Toronto is one of my favourite cities in the world - many happy evenings at Maple Leaf and Blue Jay games (though prefer hockey if I'm honest!)
@JBTEvans
@JBTEvans Месяц назад
Fabulous inside look to the Severn Tunnel works! However, as somebody living in Newport, we lose 3 trains an hour between Bristol and Cardiff during these closures as the Cardiff-Taunton's, Cardiff-Portsmouth's and weekday daytime Cardiff-London's all get cancelled this side of the bridge with no capacity replacement, and with the lack of road provision the XC Cardiff-Nottingham services and TfW Cardiff-Cheltenham's are suggested as alternative services to get people to Bristol (change at Gloucester), increasing how busy these services are. The Gloucester route has had trouble this week with axle counter failures and there's been numerous earthwork issues over the past few years, the route isn't really a reliable diversion as it stands. Many trains have been severely delayed. I feel the TOCs need to come up with a better plan to manage demand during these periods, especially when it goes on for over 2 weeks (and it's shut again over the weekend of 27/28 July!).
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Hard to see how it is possible to come up with a plan any better than the one they have done. Closing the tunnel for extended periods is really the only cost effective solution. At least it's nothing like motorway maintenance when sections can have contraflows and serious disruption for months on end.
@arthurmee
@arthurmee Месяц назад
3% here and 3% there . . . it adds up.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
It does indeed
@robertelkins5928
@robertelkins5928 Месяц назад
I'm a Postie, and our working hours have just been pushed back almost 2 hours at our delivery office (it's a different amount at each one dependent on its distance from its associated sorting centre) because, as we've been told by our overlords, Royal Mail is transitioning BACK to rail and AWAY from aircraft to reduce their carbon footprint (among other daft reasons).
@winco68
@winco68 Месяц назад
Yes that’s partly correct. Network 24 review has stripped out most of the air network and Sprinter van road fleet in favour of the LGV road network which is limited to 56 MPH hence the later arrival times. Rail is still used but now confined to the West Coast route from London to Glasgow via Warrington. Newcastle has lost its rail service altogether.
@blueskiesupnorth
@blueskiesupnorth Месяц назад
Thanks again. Keep up the good work. Some time ago I wrote to you about colour vision changes, did you receive it?
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Hi Stephen. Thanks so much for the SuperThanks. Really very much appreciated. No, I don't recall anything about colour vision changes. Did you send to info@greensignals.org? Cheers. Richard
@lanshon4696
@lanshon4696 Месяц назад
got me in the video lmao
@johnwood2684
@johnwood2684 Месяц назад
Getting a grip on costs. Think the post British Rail era managers at Network Rail never quite got the idea that if you don't keep costs within a certain margin then they will pull the plug. The South Wales Main Line electrification between Cardiff and Swansea as well as the GWML between Wotton Bassett and Temple Meads had to be stopped. You will need possible outside Project Managers from someone like Betchell at the beginning of projects. Not Rocket Science, if a family wish to have a house extension or conservatory they never tell the builder how much money they have in the bank as that is what the project will end up costing, they will need some money left over for furniture etc. but Graduates with CV's that glow in the dark and young enthusiastic faces get taken for a ride at the tax payers expense.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
There is no substitute for experience, I agree.
@locomotionlotion779
@locomotionlotion779 Месяц назад
I think this requirement to replace/update the Royal Mail trains are what the ROG 93’s are going to be for, dead hauling the 325’s until a replacement stock is bought or found. The limited weight that the 93’s can haul on diesel, combined with how tight lipped ROG has been about what they’re for, puts all the pieces together for me. The ridiculous cost of running trains on the overheads (the EC, essentially the electric bill) is still killing these developments off though.
@thegrowler-blackwoodngauge
@thegrowler-blackwoodngauge Месяц назад
First time I've come across this channel - impressed. For a future feature why not ask Transport Scotland what rolling stock they are going to use come next year to operate services on the newly electrified East Kilbride to Glasgow route. Transport Scotland haven't ordered any new rolling stock (too late now anyway) and there ain't any spare EMU's in Scotland right now.
@tonysimons2860
@tonysimons2860 Месяц назад
Thanks!
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Thanks so much Tony, really appreciate your support.
@alanwatson5929
@alanwatson5929 Месяц назад
Another great podcast and I agree with you both something has to be done about confusing fares and trying to operate like an airline won't work for those who want short distance turn up an go travel. As an example if the weather is nice tomorrow I fancy a 14 mile trip down the ECML from Newcastle to Durham but there appears to be atleast 4 different fares ranging from £3,80 to £5.20 for the same 11 minute journey depending on the operator Simply by standing on the platform for 4 minutes to catch a Trans Pennine rather than a Cross Country train I can save £1.20 or almost 25% of the cost of the 11 minute journey A confused Geordie.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
It does need something like a price promise guarantee, I agree. Whichever operator you get, you get the cheapest fare for that journey.
@petitnj
@petitnj Месяц назад
Greetings from Minnesota
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Welcome to the growing band of International Green Signallers!
@TheDaf95xf
@TheDaf95xf Месяц назад
Great stuff again guys 👍🏻 What a shame about RM moving away from rail 😢 Hopefully some modern rolling stock can be found and converted to carry letters and small parcels 🤔 I drive a truck but my load can’t go by rail as it’s a fixed MRI scanner in a artic lorry. But what I do see is the massive congestion on our motorways especially south of Preston and now around Glasgow and Edinburgh. So this can only get worse ☹️
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Yes, it is a shame indeed. Fingers crossed someone can come up with a cost effective solution that means rail can at least participate.
@jonathanniblock7799
@jonathanniblock7799 Месяц назад
Problem with DIRFT is that is not electrified thus extra cost for loco to drag the units round the corner to the Mail Terminal
@pauljohnson7171
@pauljohnson7171 Месяц назад
Nigel mispronounced Newsham, it's pronounced Newsum. Keep up the good work though excellent podcast for keeping up to date. Thumbs up from me.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Cheers Paul and thanks for mentioning the pronunciation - I shall mention it to Nigel. A lot......!
@davidredgewell7415
@davidredgewell7415 Месяц назад
Royal mail Transportation need discussion with the new Labour government,
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Think it's far too late for that David.
@superted6960
@superted6960 Месяц назад
Re Royal Mail. I always understood that operators of electric locos "bought" electricity from Network Rail at that days spot rate. In contrast, diesel fuel, whether in locos or lorries can be bought on forward contract, and hence the price is hedged. Royal Mail, as a PLC can (and should) be free to make its decisions on a commercial basis. Cant see the Govt having any leverage with this, even less so if the Mail are substantial users of EVs anyway
@Thunderer0872
@Thunderer0872 Месяц назад
So the bar that supplies the power vice wires does the bar zig and zag like the wires or is it mitigated by a low carbon abrasion on the pantograph? As the wire drifts over the whole Pan head, whereas does the bar do the same or not needed is my question. Many thanks if you know the answer?
@alexisdespland4939
@alexisdespland4939 Месяц назад
i thin the neigbourhood of the new mersy rail station is callrd baltic quater because its where the shippiing industry had all there offices.
@iman2341
@iman2341 Месяц назад
Not quite sure how RM are going to use a FOC to efficiently move mail by rail. It’s not like overnight delivery can be done by intermodal workings! May we be seeing RM wanting to outsource the running of trains to a certain up and coming rail logistics firm with some 321s….?
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
They did say they want to keep making use of rail to some extent in the future even if it's no longer on their own trains - so who knows!
@dougherron3244
@dougherron3244 Месяц назад
Great podcast I am one of the metro future specialists that are do the testing on the new 555s when do you think you will be coming up I will try and get you on the train for a look around Cheers Doug
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Thanks Doug. Really appreciate that. Not sure when yet, but hopefully fairly soon.
@shteviemac8310
@shteviemac8310 Месяц назад
Bibby Line came out of Liverpool and have done a lot of baltic trade for a very long time, probably no connection tho lol
@gzk6nk
@gzk6nk Месяц назад
Point of information: Daresbury is pronounced 'DARS' not 'DARES' - bury.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Excellent. Thanks for letting us know - important to get right!
@buzzukfiftythree
@buzzukfiftythree Месяц назад
There are so many arguments that rail, rail freight and mail transportation should be nationalised and run on a not for profit basis.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Fascinating, though in 35 years I have never heard a signal argument in favour of rail freight nationalisation that would result in anything other than destroying the sector for good. The rail freight companies are one of the true success stories of the last 25 years and need to be supported, not have their assets stolen from them. Personal view, I confess........
@stephenbrown4211
@stephenbrown4211 Месяц назад
They quit twenty years ago. The refresh in 2022 was a half hearted attempt.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
That was certainly the big change, yes.
@ChrisExley-sk1fh
@ChrisExley-sk1fh Месяц назад
Is it me! but when the Post Office finished with TPO, the service to the customer became less reliable. For example, today was 8 days for a letter to travel 8 miles after posting originally in London then road to Stamford Bridge.
@JohnSmith-xi3sq
@JohnSmith-xi3sq Месяц назад
Hi, from Massachusetts.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Hi John. You're most welcome to the International Green Signals team!
@petitnj
@petitnj Месяц назад
Mail is shrinking about 8%/year in the US. The only thing keeping the USPS open is Amazon packages
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
goodness, that's a dramatic rate of contraction!
@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834
@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834 Месяц назад
here in South Australia boys...
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Marvellous - and a lovely place it is too! Thanks for tuning in!
@sydwoods.woodsendjunction9492
@sydwoods.woodsendjunction9492 Месяц назад
why don't royal mail give VARIMIS a call im sure hr could manage another 3% in his half empty 321s i know he has 4 sets im sure he would love the extra work he already delivers parcels from Mossend to birmingham on a daily basis just a thought lads . thamks for all the info , great show take care a t b syd👍
@MasterMoyle
@MasterMoyle Месяц назад
When will an announcement be made on the WCR exemption request.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Hi David, I'm afraid we don't know any more than you on that. We're continuing to ask for updates, but at the moment there's no more to say. Rest assured we'll be reporting on it as soon as we hear!
@rocketrichardson7423
@rocketrichardson7423 Месяц назад
@Green Signals Love this podcast and listening to hear news around the railways such a great way to learn, QQ How would you recommend someone to work in a Customer Service Role or Achieve in London Area to work as a Station Staff or Dispatch,
@alistairkewish651
@alistairkewish651 Месяц назад
The only bit they forgot to mention is that the catenary is already rusty ( from an inside source )
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Don't need an inside source! We could see evidence of corrosion. It will need to be replaced on an enhanced periodicity because of the corrosive environment. Could also see sections of lovely new conductor rail as well.
@HoggRyan
@HoggRyan Месяц назад
Also home to Jackie Milburn (a cousin of the Charltons?)
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Indeed! Mind you, I am still in shock that Nigel knew about the Charltons.....!
@DOCTORDROTT
@DOCTORDROTT Месяц назад
Its cheaper by road FACT . I worked on Royal Mail trains ( TPOs) up till 2003. EWS gave them fantastic service and they still pulled the plug. Courier companies are far better, they never lost my items. I have had five items lost in the post this year. PO / Royal mail deserve to fail
@Вивсівідстій
@Вивсівідстій Месяц назад
Royal Mail will deliver mail using drones that look like helly-copters.
@ethmister
@ethmister Месяц назад
Chuck the mail in containers and yse the more frequent container trains
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
I'm fairly certain that such an idea will have been considered.....and discounted.
@paulfedak9885
@paulfedak9885 Месяц назад
After working for the Royal Mail for 44 years , I know they are good at wasting/throwing money away . And it would not surprise me if they used Varamis Rail class 321s NOT the 325s
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
I suppose that if mail did go via Varamis then it would at least be on rai.
@andrewcrisp9700
@andrewcrisp9700 Месяц назад
Wonder if they will sale the rail connected PRDC hub at Willesden.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
I'm not sure it has been used for time has it?
@alexisdespland4939
@alexisdespland4939 Месяц назад
its 3 percent of mail but what percenr of frieght sevices iare mail trains.
@leswall3061
@leswall3061 Месяц назад
Royal Mail did this many years ago, however, they found another train operator to carry on, this time, could it be down to the West Coast line due to get busier with passenger trains?
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
No, the access rights on the WCML will be a firm commitment in the relevant Track Access Contract.
@gwrydd
@gwrydd Месяц назад
man im late again. looking forward to hearing what you guys have to say
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Hope it was worth the wait!
@1954alister
@1954alister Месяц назад
Great really enjoyed the show once again. I was however surprised that you didn't mention in your news item that Scotrail have cut 600 services from their timetable. Has change of leadership in Scotland exacerbated this situation with the drivers?
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Good question. It's just that we ran out of space! We're finding we have so many ideas for the show these days, that we can't fit everything in. Will get to it next week though.....
@1954alister
@1954alister Месяц назад
@@GreenSignals Thanks, always a busy and great show as always it is a shame that Scotrail have introduced off peak fares to encourage more people to travel by rail then cut the timetable so drastically especially as there is so much happening in Scotland at this time, ie Transmit in Glasgow this weekend 100,000 expected and the British open at Troon next week
@andrewbrown6786
@andrewbrown6786 Месяц назад
Given modern ‘units’ generate as much electricity as they draw for power, I wonder why electric trains are not being developed more.
@GreenSignals
@GreenSignals Месяц назад
Do you mean rom regenerative braking? I'm not sure it's a 1:1 ratio is it?
@andrewbrown6786
@andrewbrown6786 Месяц назад
@@GreenSignals Class 377’s created more electricity during a braking run, than they used pulling away from a standing start. Furthermore, whilst power control set to coast, they could still generate electricity via the 3 phase AC traction package… Just imagine what you could do if you had block unit type of marshalling for freight trains? How much power could they generate?
@chriswalford4161
@chriswalford4161 Месяц назад
@@andrewbrown6786: You’re the very first ever to break the laws of thermodynamics.
@andrewbrown6786
@andrewbrown6786 Месяц назад
@@chriswalford4161 only repeating the numbers that appeared on the ‘Traction Status’ screen part of the MITRAC UI.
@alexisdespland4939
@alexisdespland4939 Месяц назад
they should have waited untill hs2 opens and free up more space on the rest of the n etwlrk.
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