Royce Da 5’9” Speaks On Cassidy Battling Eminem "He Would Have A Better Shot WRITING A DISS RECORD" 

Same as Cass

Cassidy is one of those guys

Facts. Still one of my fave diss records

Exactly 👌🏾

Royce is a nice MC but ngl that Factz diss track was stellar. Checked every damn box twice !

Facts cus Royce is a top tier lyrical monster that brings da best out of em n vice versa so when he didn't respond to mickey facts I was like huh 🤷🏽‍♂️ mickey left u speechless so how u gone beat a battle rapper that's constantly on dat stage ... but I feel Royce should of warmed up with that type of lyrical combat b4 talkin bout stepping on a battle rap stage... Cus mickey facts is a top tier lyricist too...n steel has to sharpen steel

Facts... He chickened

Cass would of smoked Em.

@@GreatWarriorKing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

"If you think I remind you of any of these n*ggas you wildin' out, like Chico Bean"

Maybe Charlamagne, sorry, "Charla-Magayne."just hooked him up with that clear coat and our eyes are just adjusting lol.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Marshall is filling Arenas. who gives a shit about cassidy. he should go to the studio and get a hit

^^^... ooooooh - 🤔 ???

He can't lol he too famous. Em says 1 thing about it all of media turns its attention to it. He's gotta lay low on these convos 😂

​@Yogi a hit has nothing to do with skills or lyrical ability

@@TooRealForMost so? Eminem has that too lol even tho I don’t like Em’s new music

I just was just thinking this while listening to Royce talk.

Facts

I like cass but em would destroy Cassidy in a actual battle

Naaaaah People dont care abput cass

99 % of the world dont even know who tf cassidy is.

@@notrafficmedia1298 nah it would be a good battle they’re both outdated when it comes to battle rap if people are being honest about it

​@@RedTought 😂😂😂😂Are you kidding 😂😂😂😂

lupe already washed him spotless, mf was so rinsed you could see urself in his shimmering skin

Royce a get smoked foh

Hate say it but lupe zeroed him i prefer royce lyrically but battle wise lupe did him over

EM AIN'T WASTING HIS TIME FOR TRASH THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE BILL🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

@@benjaminsamu9913 wtf are you talking about cassidy is a legend far from trash

​@@bigscrap_pnl cassidy is a legend and was one of my favorite rappers growing up especially because I didn't live too far from him but Cass is very outdated and stuck in the early 2000's.

@@tupacwallace3113 and shady is nowhere near cass shady ass can’t even deliver punchlines

@@jerrylanes8354 I stopped listening to both their music years ago so idc about your opinion

Eminem is waaayyyyy better then Cassidy

That would be the battle just release all the material

@@plexmusic7152 no one was saying that Wth lol

@@raymondtennent857 your right 😂

​@@plexmusic7152Cap🧢. Cassidy is way better than Em.

nobody's touching Daylyt

Daylyt too damn lethal.

ROYCE and CROOKED are Em Bots

What’s wrong with his name coming up in a conversation about real spittas that’s a compliment this is whats going to hurt his legacy fans

For what, tho? 😂😂😂 Pun passed in 2000. Really think about Y2K Em. His only actual battles were the ones in the Rap Olympics (which he lost in the finals)… followed by back and disses of Britney Spears, the Backstreet Boys, NSync, and Christina Aguilera. His only opponents that actually rapped at some were Marky Mark (post Funky Bunch era) and Will Smith. Seriously , this has really gotta stop at some point, yo. Em is dope, and his talent can’t denied; but he shouldn’t be deified the way he is. He’s the white boy version of Beyoncé and/or Jay Z. All 3 being VERY talented. But all 3 also being more popular than their talent levels.

I’m working on a blog-umentary about Jay as we speak. And I already know it’s gonna have more dislikes than likes to go along with a comments section full of butthurt. But I gotta call a spade, a spade. I’m giving my word that anybody who takes feelings and emotions out of the equation will have to not accept but also agree that Jay Z doesn’t even belong in the “Best rapper” conversation. And I promise, with the case I’m making, it’s gonna be literally impossible to hold on to any kinda “GOAT” title without the person being exposed as a Stan arguing from emotion. And I do mean impossible.

I’m breaking down Jay’s whole career timeline and rise in the industry. His biggest hits came from wave-riding, using people (and their art), and outright theft. There’s almost no point whatsoever where Jay was actually the best or hottest rapper in the game. The rapper with the best “business” moves? Definitely. But I’m talking strictly about the art of hip hop (every element included… not just rap).

Then after Jay, Em is next. Only Em definitely ranks higher than Jay does (though they both did basically the exact same thing… which was taking and using somebody else’s style, blowing up off of it, and not only getting credit for it but actually accepting that credit without keeping it 💯.

This is the best comment. Lyrically Pun was spectacular

Nah Daylyt would cook Royce too much

@@Gintoki_Madao I only say that because Daylyt pivoted from when he did the king Los battle, then tay roc, then king bau. He was on stream saying he not trying to destroy character anymore in battle rap but just outdo skill level. Plus Royce and Daylyt are both conscious rappers and I’d feel like if they matched up there would be more to take away from it then just who won. That’s just my opinion though

​@@Gintoki_Madaodaylyt probably got his style from royce 🤦🏾‍♂️

@@Jrum_KnoyZ not facts Daylyt got his style from listening to his older brother Nut and Crooked I rapping together Structure wise? He learned a lil bit from Lux Aside from that, Daylyt’s uncompromisingly himself

@amanSpawn00 Daylyt is for sure a Bad Meets Evil fan . He listened to Eminem growing up . My point is , Royce is his elder .

That's what em does, that's his first love.....it's like riding a bike.... Cassidy basic ass bars will not stand a chance

Ars killed him though

​@gideoninc8687 Ars won due to aggression not bars they both was trash

thats Joe noth em and royce

Joe actually beat Hollow but he forfeited when laid the mic down.

True but Em literally brought battle rap to the mainstream so in that case he already checked that area

Bis wasn't really industry if we're being honest.

He wasn’t active since the 90s he definitely don’t count

Facts

No not industry rapper Cassidy it’s a difference, u don’t think fat Joe ,50 cent Rick rosé example of rappers would have a great success rate but cas is born for this he’s been on top for years this ain’t something you can just do it’s not the studio where you can make 100 takes till you get it right

Respect

Not to mention that legendarily terrible joe budden performance 😅

Bro.....know the history. Battling is nothing like it was in the original days. Battling had beats, time limits etc when Em was doing. Em was one of the best battle rappers in all of America YEARS BEFORE HE EVER TOUCHED HIS PEAK 😂. What are you saying. The Eminem of today going back in time would have left Juice sleeping on the floor my man 😂. Man just gunna forget Eminem was Battling in 1994 bro. Cassidy was nowhere. Em comes from the down an dirty Battling. No Smack DVD. None of that. Your gunna say after 3 classic albums, 3 diamond albums, 15 grammys, an Oscar, and Stan......that hes the same 22 year old Battling at St Andrew's Hall? Broooo....lmaooo. Eminem got 10000x better with time. Cassidy has NEVER GOTTEN BETTER. Ever. Hes has never evolved. He can do one style, one lane. Eminem would be spitting circles around him. Wild take my guy. Know the history. Current battle rap you have 2 WHOLE MONTHS to research your opponents and come up with stuff lmfao. Eminem was wandering into hostile territories and ripping. Ask anyone from NYC about Eminem at The Lyricist Lounge lmfao

The difference between todays battling and the battling Em use to do is that today its all written. U know ur opponents before hand, u got weeks to come up with ur punchlines and bars. When Em was doing it, it was like 95% off the dome battling. Em would battle 20 dudes in a row and beat them all according to some Detroit battle rap legends. So ofc ppl like Daylyt would have the advantage these days. Its much easier for them to dig up dirt about Em since his whole life has been public for 25 years, i mean he is the biggest rapper of all time. If it was purely a freestyle battle, no written bars, i reckon Em could take anyone. I mean Mook thinks the same. He says the best battle rappers would have to team up together against Em in a freestyle battle to have a shot, and he is confident that Em could still body anybody. In the end, todays battle rap is a whole different game than 90s battle rap. Today its all written, back then it wasnt.

@@JJ-ji5ey I thought it was in my comment but i know I at least told someone else this in another reply to some other guy that didn’t know the full capacity of battle rap history outside of Eminem, but I will share it here now if I didn’t already. None of the dudes from Daylyts to luxs era knew their opponents when they came up battling. It was on sight whenever someone thought u couldn’t fuk with a certain dude or if u bump into another cat and turns out he’s a battler y’all may challenge each other right then and there. And in that era you had a bunch of writtens that you could rely on at any given time but u also had the ability to freestyle on the spot and knew that it was best to be all around cuz the ones that go off the top if slick enough coudl steal the show. But if they weren’t slick enough off the top it was always acceptable to get destroyed by even nothinh. It writtens if the person wasn’t slick enough to clown you for them in a good clever way while going off the top the entire battle himself. Or if his off the tops just weren’t good enough in general. And then you had a guy like Ben10 who could body loaded lux in school through off the top rhymes right then and there Only way you could get disqualified for using writtens is if the battle league actually requested that you cannot use writtens. All off the top. And yes they had more of those back in Eminem’s time and prior than they do today for sure but still writtens we’re also accepted if that rule didn’t apply since the very beginning of battling. Even lord finesse and percee P was majority if not all writtens and even lots of Eminem’s battles had a lot of writtens in them. I believe only 5 percent of his freestyles against 20 guys may have been writtens give or take exaggerations cuz he could go off the top very well too. Nothing like mc juice or Supernat or king los but up there with the other greats for sure Also as f

He battled juice in 97. And let’s not act like Eminem was doing his best performance. The rap olympics Eminem battle rap was way better. The juice one you can tell Em didn’t come with his best material. Had you had Eminem recite some of the lines he said at the rap olympics to juice or even some of the freestyles he would do a year or some months later, he would easily be on par if not better

@@Karmaislistening nope not by a long shot at all. Em at the rap Olympics wasnt that much better def not the level of juice. Plus it works both ways. Juice improved daily and his freestyle off the top is maybe second or third only to Supernat and king los Juice would’ve ripped him all the same with some $hit like “if Eminem test us we scrapping his azz off the wall like asbestos” Or “I beat so many rappers I should own a plantation” “I’m like an outta work doctor with no patients” U can see in juice freestyles he was untouchable by cats the caliber of Eminem each year getting better People love to forget everything goes both ways especially with they favorites

He broke down the way I am that’s it em is way more complex than that

Lol no he didn't. He broke down the one syllable rap scene that he used which is still dope as f. Only dumb if you aren't creative and rhyme club with dub with hug like a middle schooler watching BET reruns. Eminem WOULD Squash him easily

but where is Cassidys scientific rap ?

Bro that was how em used to rap BEFORE 2014 He brought up a song from the 2000s when eminem's had a over 20 year career, look up any eminem song after 2008 and em BEEN doing multis, rhyming 10 syllables a bar, Going crazy. Eminem got Lyrically WAY more technically impressive after he got off drugs in 2009 till now. Cass brought up eminems OLD style of rap. Any song from 2013 to now and em schemes are way more complex.

​@@flowbossandre Exactly Em now a monster his older music was much more enjoyable though because he wasn't as technical but he nice with skills

Yes someone with a pen game, daylyt, chilla, Bdot, myers..

@@MR.__G true, but since Royce never responded to Micky's diss track that he asked for himself, that match up makes the most sense imo

@@TheRealMCExcellent Yes so that would make the most sense & Mickey is super dope. Another guy I’d throw out there that would be interesting is king los. He already has 3 battle under his belt & he’s clearly been the best rapper transitioning into battle rap

MY SHADY, DONT BE SHADY, PICK THAT PEN UP, DONT BE LAZY.

"I'm not on the outside looking in I'm not on inside looking out I'm in the dead fucking center Looking around"

Kendrick Lamar is over rated af and that line is mediocre, that ain't fire. You're delusional.

Royse would get eaten alive by the top

@@johnmallqui8667 clown take

@@johnmallqui8667 stop it bro, Royce literally sets up his bars in his commercial songs like a battle rapper. He can double time, lay out double and triple entendres and his breath control is impeccable. Let’s not act like battle rappers haven’t already given him flowers cause they know he’s a goat. King Los and Daylyt both hold him in high regards and they are top tier lyrical giants. I don’t think you know what you’re talking about lol.

@Savage Matthew cassidy can do all that shit to but its not going to translate to battle rapping lol just ask joe 😂

@@johnmallqui8667 Joe and Royce don’t rap the same Joe Budden even has stated that, again as I said before I actually have a record with Cassidy so I know first hand how he structures his set ups. I guess you’re going with the “industry rappers can’t be or beat battle rappers” theory? has it occurred to you that a lot of artists come in rapping a certain way and once a label picks them up they have to cater to big business and consumerism? Guys like Cassidy, Royce, Em and Budden were underground at some point battling rappers as well as making songs till they popped. What you think that all goes away? When literally their whole career you’ve seen them battle other major artists? I digress. Matter of fact since you said it what battle rapper do you think would absolutely wash Royce?

loved the analogy, that said, who u got money on?

@@jaywilk7249 absolutely none of them. They don’t battle. I wouldn’t put money on any of these three with the exception of Cassidy because he is currently competing in battles. People think because a dude sounds good on the radio that hitting that URL stage or another league will be a walk in the park. Battle rappers are the apex predators of the rap world when it comes to rappers….if you want to see your favorite studio rapper look like a fool send him to the URL.

I watch stuff here and there. Do you think Em would lose bad? Em’s background is battle rap but hasn’t done it in forever. I’m genuinely asking because I’m interested in your take.

The only way eminem actually battles is if Jay Z wanted to battle. Its not about him accepting a challenge, its about him not lowering himself to battle someone thats not on his tier, Cassidy has bars has great technical skills but he wasnt a major success mainstream wise, and he's had 4 battles with 2 of them not being good overall performances. Cassidys lane is more like Royce/Lloyd Banks/etc. Guys that have a few plaques but werent huge mainstream successes, but also have bars, battling eminem isnt realistic

When has or will he ever NEED to ? Juice killed him & he never took anyone else on as an opponent SINCE. So I’m not sure why so many people think Marshall would do damage in this day & time, just because he’s a good writer. If you love the craft the way he claims he does, he would’ve been jumped in the ring with somebody.

LOLLLLLLLL @ JOE BUDDEN VS EM..YOUR TROLLING RIGHT ?

@@JT_for_Three, no i'm not. I think those two would've had a pretty good battle.

Joe Budden definitely is a top lyricist I know we know him from pump it up lmao but if you listen to his music you'll know he's sick with it

@@hotboylee5able, I agree. He's got some good songs like "Dum Out", "Who Killed Hip-Hop", and "Russian Roulette", but he's also been pretty good with diss tracks as well.

Em v the game nun bout a clout chase situation and em avoided it smartly

Not only did this battle not happen but diz can't even battle no more and his culture vulture ass got boo'd his last showing and lost to real sikh of all ppl

No point. I'd rather have another collab album with them. With Royce producing the whole thing.

@@zetsutsuletsu2034 But there is a point. These guys are always battling whenever they are together. These are competitive it's their blood just when Busta and on calm down. They are not like "am better than you" it's more like "how do I top your bars" that's why i still enjoy bad meets evil even today because they bring out the best in each other and i enjoyed that. That's why am saying just for the fun of it

But Budden wouldn't though

It would be epic but they'd probably lose to be honest.

@@aro7975differently day and loaded would 30 them.

In this corner an unstoppable force In this corner, Cassidy

Cassidy punchlines, and wordplay is terrible and outdated

@@stevieb274 Cassidy will 30 Eminem clear

@@rokarion6979 this is hilarious. I guarantee you that nobody in the battle rap culture thinks that. Actually I’ve heard battle rappers say that. You clearly just don’t like Eminem, so it’s fine.

@@stevieb274 Cass 30 no debate

@@rokarion6979 plenty debate. You just don’t like Eminem, and that’s fine. You’re just a person in the comments saying this. I’ll take what I’ve heard people that battle said over you, and I’ll listen to my ears too. Em would body Cassidy. Everyone knows it, but you, and that’s fine.

Lol Em lyrical 😂? Basically any good modern day battle rapper is more lyrical 😅

@@madmarvdesigns name a rapper that's more lyrical than Eminem

​@@madmarvdesigns you salty 😂

​@@madmarvdesigns spouting that ignorance all over our screens Allowing that delinquince to cause a scene, i think it's time to see the difference in our spleens 🍽 do you have a reverance for beans?

@@madmarvdesigns lmaoooooooooo

Wrong lol

Em is washed up silly 🙈

Exactly what I was thinking.

You for “NotAlike”

Mgk didn’t deserve a em diss ..

He actually did... I didn't dignify it with a response... Although I would have preferred one...

Hear not here

Stop the 🧢

@@vinimarcben5889 Cas has not won a single rap battle after his accident. You are the one who needs to stop gawking on his meat. The only people worthy to call em out for a battle are Lux, Mook or Daylyt.

Err rap olympics scribble jam what you chatting about hiphop shop get yerrr facts 😅😂😮

@@patrickoleary2247 we heard about it and Eminem lost at the end you forgot. We can't give a title to someone who has not jumped in that ring yet. Cassidy did it multiple times and did it at the highest level. We need to see Eminem on that stage simple as that

@@Tiger24kicks cassidy got bashed up facts 💯💯😜

@@patrickoleary2247 Cassidy beat Goodz, killed Hitman, Arsonal didn't win

@@Tiger24kicks em would have smashed him bk in day 💯🤪🤪👍

Joe had better punches but his delivery was dead

​@@BKbomber92 that's why he was smoked

That battle was lack luster period. Hollow has way better performances than that & joe sounded like he was reading his rhymes off a notebook lol.. budden has always been my fav out the slaughter but I know Royce, crooked & joel are more equipped to battle.

Damn your right Cassidy does have bars and insane wordplay

@@ReDRoKProductions No tf he don’t…. “Yo, I twist the pure leaf, I just got in some new shit Dawg (dog) is hairy like my shih tzu but smell like zoo shit I got a new stick I just copped for ya So chop at ya caesar with the K, I am Junior Mafia” -Cassidy That shit weak

Lies, Royce didn't want to battle lupe, royce kept bragging about how good he was but never wanted to actually rap on their short lived podcast.

@Nick Sulli I kinda agree with you there, I guess it matters whether he'd be on something like Smack vs KOTD