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@opacky1411
@opacky1411 2 года назад
Wow that was real mess. You did great job to bring it back to life!
@mbwatson1000
@mbwatson1000 Год назад
I am an experienced IT professional, with a first degree in electronics and a doctorate in computer science. So, I appreciate the work of an expert like yourself. I also know the limit of my own experience. I would like to think that I could do some of the work you do - I can follow the theory etc. But, I do not have the tools or experience in your specialist field and I know I would be stupid to try. I also suspect I would not have the patience for all the very fine detailed work. In other words, I know my limitations. I recently bought a fairly expensive graphics card. If it should ever fail, I would not attempt to repair it myself, but would happily send it to you. An expert knows his limitations. What I learn from your videos is not to attempt the sort of work you do. You make your work look simple - it is not! You are a highly skilled professional whose work can be admired and appreciated by us lesser mortals.
@KrisFixGermany
@KrisFixGermany Год назад
Thank you
@DipanGhosh
@DipanGhosh Год назад
This is a very good response. I am almost in the same situation. A professional knows their limitations. Thank you.
@JoseEaglesky
@JoseEaglesky Год назад
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@PK-lk5gs
@PK-lk5gs Год назад
Being an IT professional myself I agree with you, however you have to admit that you know your limits from experience of exploring your limits, testing them and sometimes expanding them - that's how we grow as professionals. So while I agree that an expert knows his limits, it is as obvious that you have to start somewhere, break a couple of devices beyond repair, and learn something in the process. My point is - people shpuld not be afraid to experiment, should not be discouraged by their lack of experience - no one is born with that knowledge and skill. But learning and gaining that experience should absolutely NOT come at a customer's expense, so people gaining experience should be prepared to pay for their mistakes.
@phil1pd
@phil1pd 2 года назад
No need to apologize, you make an excellent point. Great work as always. I always learn something new from your videos.
@DannyWilliamH
@DannyWilliamH 2 года назад
This is the catch22 of repair being so prominent on RU-vid now. Being in repair myself, I now see TONS of people watch major repair channels and think "I can do that". Which is great...if they take the proper route to learning electronics and electronics repair. Most don't. I spend almost all of my time on Reddit repair subs BEGGING people to properly learn electronics whenever I see a post about someone "getting in to repair". 99% of them just end up coming back and begging for help on something they demolished. It's really sad and bad for the repair industry. The repair world needs more repair technicians! I want more around even if it takes away from my business! However, we need proper techs and not these people that watch 3 Rossman videos and decide that they can also do it immediately. So RU-vid has helped get the word out about repair but also caused the quality of repair work to plummet at the same time. It's a sad turn of events as I see totally unqualified people taking high-paying, high-risk work that they have zero business taking. I'm seeing people come to RU-vid and Reddit begging for help on a job they took! They need help with a customer's item, not their own. It's sad and not good.
@brazensmusings2738
@brazensmusings2738 2 года назад
I relate to you on the shortage of technicians... My father runs a licensed service centre for various brands and also do repair on the side. It has been years and he couldn't fill all posts. There was a time a decade ago that he had more than 10 working full time, now he only has 2 qualified ones. Majority of repairs are just like the one in the video, a fet gone bad, a capacitor leaking, a broken fuse etc. Still the companies charge so much and just replace whole cards/sections, instead of giving repair a chance. In this way, sometimes, he also builds the same by scavenging various warranty discarded parts. Our home has been filled with such appliances...
@oynamalan
@oynamalan Год назад
@@brazensmusings2738 I saw many repaired cards outliving the untouched ones in my whole 20 years of electronics repair bussiness. People really should consider the repair (in good hands like this gentleman) before buying a new device.
@jasonriddell
@jasonriddell Год назад
@@brazensmusings2738 I am a heavy truck / LORRY mechanic and there is a MAJOR shortage of techs in our trade and we don't have the "anti-repair" push from the manufactures OR artificially SHORT "life expectancies" seen in modern "devices" and GET PROPER "support" from the manufactures and the industry is so bad the GOVERNMENT is running ads on behalf of the "transport industry" as they can see the impending "damage" that will happen if we don't get more "blue collar" jobs filled
@brazensmusings2738
@brazensmusings2738 Год назад
@@jasonriddell Where are you located? There is an over abundance of them in Pakistan. We have designated areas for them and one such can have tens such businesses, not to mention, many line supply routes. Yes, they are not properly qualified or licensed because there is no such concept here, but their teachers have been in the trade for their whole lives. That's how our mechanics just go generation to generation, much like family businesses.
@Morpheus-pt3wq
@Morpheus-pt3wq Год назад
@@brazensmusings2738 companies deliberately make repairs so expensive, it´s not worth of the time and work for anyone to do it. Some devices (including GPUs) often don´t have available parts and repairmen must rely on donor boards. Which comes at cost - you´ll have to have A LOT of storage.
@slickrx6908
@slickrx6908 Год назад
The guy is the GOAT of electronics repair. Never seen anyone put in so much effort in repair. But I bet he made a good chunk of well earned money. Assuming he itemizes charges based off what is worked on instead of a no fix not fee model.
@KrisFixGermany
@KrisFixGermany Год назад
Thank you Our prices are calculated according to the time and resources needed for the repair. We do not have a “repair attempt" fee, in the case of an impossible or refused repair a small diagnosis fee is charged
@creechavo
@creechavo Год назад
Just heard about you from your video cards 6800/6900 series die crack problem. Now im watching all your videos. Great repair man.
@Thomas_Aslaksen
@Thomas_Aslaksen 2 года назад
Really nice work as allways. I can't believe that someone can do this with a customer card. One thing is if you screw up you own card, but a customer? Thank god you fixed it. The customer should have sendt the card to you first. Not the other place. Keep up the good work.
@jasonriddell
@jasonriddell Год назад
assume it was a "local" shop as he stated "not in Germany" in my area there are electronics recyclers that likely will give/sell you DEAD devices to "learn on" and IF I were to attempt that type of repair I would acquire some and MAKE SURE I am comfortable with my soldering skills LONG before taking on paid repairs
@natestringfellow9526
@natestringfellow9526 2 года назад
Nice work. good to see there are people who actually care about customers.
@p7_a757
@p7_a757 Год назад
it is a pleasure to watch your videos. Hello from Italy
@AindriuMacGiollaEoin
@AindriuMacGiollaEoin Год назад
great work making something out of that mess
@r4z4m4t4z
@r4z4m4t4z 2 года назад
great work again! i giggled when you got all stern and the previous repair work. thanks for the upload!
@gndworkshop
@gndworkshop 2 года назад
nice job, i repair a lots of gpu hd7000, rx400-500 gtx 900 gtx 10. and almost everyone comes with reflow in the gpu and some in memory, reflow with a national ugly flux Branded "Delta" . thats nasty! argentina the hell of cheap reflow attemps
@pp3v42_g3h
@pp3v42_g3h 2 года назад
I've had a strix RX480 with all the gpu balls squished together, but the worst part: they used 100% rosin as flux, it was burnt and rock solid under 200°C, almost impossible to remove. Love it when you start heating the board and the brown goo appears around all the chips :D
@cardo9904
@cardo9904 2 года назад
Best gpu technician in youtube that I have watched so far.
@tony359
@tony359 Год назад
cool and sad story! I was hoping to see a "before" scope of the power stage before the inductor!
@kikihun9726
@kikihun9726 2 года назад
Yeah.. thats why a thermal cam or even isopropil alcohol is your best friend for finding the root issue.
@phantompanda1508
@phantompanda1508 2 года назад
i would love to see you and buildzoid work on something :))))) idk ...just something...lvely content as always
@CmdrSoyo
@CmdrSoyo Год назад
i just went through a very similar experience with a 980Ti. it had a dead dual N-Fet in the Memory VRM but someone removed 5 of the VRAM chips instead and also ripped pads and traces out of the board doing that. the actualy problem was an easy fix but the VRAM damage was bad enough for me to write it off as a no fix because of the ripped data lines
@balu6336
@balu6336 2 года назад
Toller Beitrag und tolle Arbeit! Gleichzeitig macht mich so ein Beispiel auch sprachlos! Das Leute Reparaturen an Fremdgeräten anbieten, obwohl es ihnen offensichtlich an der Erfahrung im Löten, als auch der Fehleranalyse mangelt, das ist schon heftig! Dafür aber auch noch Geld vom Kunden zu verlangen ist der Gipfel!
@bodiram
@bodiram 2 года назад
Congratulations Kristian for how you approach it. Keep it up.
@maraisl
@maraisl 2 года назад
Thanks Kris, good video. Enjoyed your comments on the work done by the previous tech. If you don't the right tools and experience rather don't try on expensive cards😂
@gerrepair7862
@gerrepair7862 2 года назад
Ich muss immer wieder sagen. Krisfix ist einer der besten auf diesem Gebiet. Always nice work my friend 👍
@KrisFixGermany
@KrisFixGermany 2 года назад
Danke dir
@user-qn7gj2oq6w
@user-qn7gj2oq6w 2 года назад
Vielen Dank fur ein modifiziertes Bios! Dmitry hat es auf eine Yandex-Festplatte gelegt. Alles Gute! Viel Erfolg bei der Arbeit!👍👍
@ricma9710
@ricma9710 2 года назад
Very nice fix and properly measured criticism of previous repair shop.
@greatdrd
@greatdrd 2 года назад
its always fun to watch some one as experiance as u working ... thanks u very much great great video..
@Jason-zh7wo
@Jason-zh7wo 2 года назад
Great job fixing this mess 👍🙏😀
@wayneshephard
@wayneshephard Год назад
Huge effort you went to, such a patient fellow!
@larryrodriguez1977
@larryrodriguez1977 Год назад
There is no reason to apologize for any harsh language. If I had been doing this repair the whole video would've been one long bleep with asterisks covering my mouth. I have repaired alot of stuff After customers or other shops attempted repairs and it drives me insane how badly people treat other peoples things. I recently replaced a pciex1 slot that someone had tried to "fix" and in doing so they destroyed the battery holder and a cap that was near by. Since the board booted they gave it back to my friend and said it was fixed. After a week of losing bios settings with every shutdown and crashes under certain loads he brought it to me and 5 mins later identified the issues and spent $10 to repair it properly and the things the "tech" had messed up. Lo and behold The guy isn't reachable anymore so my friend was out some money but at least now he has a working motherboard. I love your videos and watch them quite a bit. While I wouldn't try most of the repairs you do I can do the basics. Thanks for the content and keep on doing what you're doing.
@LSPpeepoSnow
@LSPpeepoSnow Год назад
Love your videos
@maxiumeffort8174
@maxiumeffort8174 Год назад
Kris your being to nice, If you don't have a clue, Don't even start working on others just stop, Send it to Kris & learn something. Guesstimating never fixes anything your only lucky if you do fix something! Sorry to the owner off the GFX card, glad kris was able to repair it.
@Druac
@Druac 2 года назад
A pro at work…well done.
@seffard
@seffard Год назад
I support your attitude. It's very exhausting when we gotta waste time fixing somebody's incompetence.
@ShinnaDEW
@ShinnaDEW 2 года назад
If you cant fix shit then just send the card back with no charge of fee. Admit its beyond what you can repair and done. Then maybe you lost one customer but not the rep of your entire shop. Glad you could fix this mess for the owner of the card. keep up the good work!
@viacheslav4785
@viacheslav4785 2 года назад
Your english is excellent. I'm russian-speaking and I understood everything 😁 and thanks for mod bios
@bama1815
@bama1815 2 года назад
awesome repair as always .♥♥♥♥♥♥. dear kris you are good man whit good manner.
@koford
@koford 2 года назад
i think the customer is lucky that the card is working thanks to you, the other guy who tried to "repair" it should be ashamed.
@farrez_gump
@farrez_gump Год назад
Great video!
@Huppat
@Huppat Год назад
Good Job, Nice Skills. 🤓👍
@PaulHigginbothamSr
@PaulHigginbothamSr Год назад
What I am sure of with all this rework this card will have a higher probability of failure in the future. This customer has spent a lot of money for the purchase of this card, all the time in the first shop removing all the mosfets then I don't know what else. I have watched Kris grind through board layers chasing a crack (not on this card) and he seems to go above and beyond values ascribed to a fixit shop. A very fine technician. I am not an ai, but an old human over 75.
@-gg8342
@-gg8342 Год назад
That poor customer. I'm sure you get mad seeing such crap work. Your technique is flawless
@I_SuperHiro_I
@I_SuperHiro_I Год назад
Type: Disaster As a field engineer, I can totally relate to this. Fixing someone else’s “work” is never fun.
@alafrosty
@alafrosty Год назад
You mentioned that ram pads were torn off. You've had this on a bunch of other boards as well. Other repair channels that use air instead of your fancy machine don't seem to have This problem. I think that your chip remover needs to run a tad longer before trying to lift the chips. I suspect that during the chip lift, colder air gets under the chip and the solder freezes right before the solder surface tension separated. A bit hotter could prevent this if that is what's going on.
@chrisoverton2759
@chrisoverton2759 Год назад
Nah, these 30 series cards tend to have many ripped pads on the lower chips near the pci-e slot due to end users not installing anything to prevent sagging.
@RipperDraco
@RipperDraco 2 года назад
Hey man im sending to let you know that the reason that i havent sended the email for my 3090 repair is because Asus accepted my warranty claim and they sended a brand new card. Thank you for those videos are extremely informative.
@KrisFixGermany
@KrisFixGermany 2 года назад
That’s great
@murodmuxtorjonov3055
@murodmuxtorjonov3055 2 года назад
Good job Bro 👍👍
@mousethefoo1230
@mousethefoo1230 Год назад
If your going to work on electronics work on your own or work on something you bought DOA on Ebay don't build your skills on customer devices.
@martinmalone6324
@martinmalone6324 2 года назад
why wasn't the card RMa'd? was it water cooled, anyway, astounds me that people give such expensive devices to tech repairers that havn't a clue. glad you found the easy fix after all that work it must have cost as much to fix as to buy it in the end?
@spookytofu2078
@spookytofu2078 2 года назад
Most likely manufacturer refused RMA due to graphics card either being opened or bought second hand. They have been doing this as far as I've seen to avoid RMA of mining gpus
@stanimir4197
@stanimir4197 2 года назад
@@spookytofu2078 this is the EU. The customer should have notified the customer protection commission in their country... and pretty much, it'd have been enough, if customer had the receipt/invoice.
@jasonriddell
@jasonriddell Год назад
@@stanimir4197 maybe sent from Asia / America as Kris did state the pervious shop is NOT in GERMANY and In Asia it is LESS common for RMA/ warranty coverage and some card "grey market" get a "shop warranty" only and the manufacture wont do anything at all could be a mining card with 3 month warranty only also
@ChaosHusky
@ChaosHusky Год назад
Wow, the previous "repair attempt" was.. I don't even know what to say besides it was f**king awful! Replacing almost everything but a single MosFET! I don't have a thermal camera, but surely even idiots would think to check for hot spots/overheating components? Can be a risk to burning the back of my little finger though lol
@jasonriddell
@jasonriddell Год назад
rub iso alcohol and watch evaporation / dob flux and watch melt ETC all stuff a "competent" work station should have
@AbdullahKhan-be8lx
@AbdullahKhan-be8lx 2 года назад
Good work
@tonycstech
@tonycstech 2 года назад
After seeing the mess the left behind them, you think they care about the customer if they dont care about the card ? I dont think so.
@Maxximilian
@Maxximilian 2 года назад
Hi Theodore, thanks for another instructive video, I have question as always! why the first coil from top get hot but the coil next to that mosfet was normal? was that camera issue or I am missing sth?
@KrisFixGermany
@KrisFixGermany 2 года назад
Thanks. The inductors that heat up more are for the ram chips. The camera is calibrated
@Maxximilian
@Maxximilian 2 года назад
@@KrisFixGermany Your knowledge is priceless please consider posting some live videos again.
@dtiydr
@dtiydr 2 года назад
Have a 1080 ti aorus xtreme where in normal idle mode it work just fine but in a game it crashes to desktop after about 5 seconds, the computer doesn't freeze or anything the graphic card does just restart according to the windows log. I have seen a video where the PWM controller IC was actually messing things up but it would be hard to test, but I have an oscilloscope so that could be a way I guess? Do you use a isolation transformer with the scope and ground it by the probe clamp?
@KrisFixGermany
@KrisFixGermany 2 года назад
No, i don’t use isolation transformer for this measurement
@alescha97
@alescha97 2 года назад
Все понял даже с моим знанием английского) Спасибо за биосы для rtx3000
@Prozacel
@Prozacel Год назад
Hi Kris! Can you tell me what thermal camera you use ? Best regards!
@qwertyui5086
@qwertyui5086 2 года назад
Asus tuf 3080 abused in a cramped mining rig with no air flow, tuf's corner cutting Vram cooling apparatus accelerated the destruction. If you wonder why Asus tufs are always on special deals, then now you know why.
@jasonriddell
@jasonriddell Год назад
the TUF Gaming 3080 was actually one of the BETTER GPU's of the 3080 family as far as mining is concerned with ZOTAC and Gigabyte being worse (zotac fan/fan controller failure - Gigabyte killing VRMs and memory due to VERY HIGH temps) NO 3080 or "better" card is GOOD at mining due to high temps of the GDDR6X memory and the "lesser" cards offer better power efficiency
@sakagjiata
@sakagjiata 2 года назад
It is the technician's fault for accepting work on the card in the first place... don't attempt repairs if you don't have the necessary tools and experience
@dtiydr
@dtiydr 2 года назад
Don't you sorry about anything, its really good that you show that there is still a lot of uneducated ppl out there who just don't care.
@Einheit101
@Einheit101 Год назад
A few years ago my Laptop gtx 1070 with MXM connector started crashing with ridiculous colors on the screen and immediate reboot. I replaced it with a new card. Would you have been able to repair a mobile mxm card? I guess the error was nothing special, maybe ram or power supply.
@rdvanderlinden
@rdvanderlinden Год назад
funny to see some Louis Rossman mentality coming through
@Wahabqamar
@Wahabqamar 2 года назад
Omg my card is also RMA'd for no picture to Zotac. I hope they dont find the actual problem and just replace the card to me 😁
@KrisFixGermany
@KrisFixGermany 2 года назад
Hopefully…
@BaliAgha
@BaliAgha 2 года назад
How much was the repair in USD?
@gerrepair7862
@gerrepair7862 2 года назад
a lot ,because it was a lot of work.
@BaliAgha
@BaliAgha 2 года назад
@@gerrepair7862 Like $800 a lot? An estimate would be nice too; if giving an exact amount is a "no no". Just something to give an idea on how much these types of repairs cost would be nice to know.
@gerrepair7862
@gerrepair7862 2 года назад
@@BaliAgha I think more like 500USD but im not sure
@BaliAgha
@BaliAgha 2 года назад
@@gerrepair7862 Oh wow okay, less than what I was expecting and definitely not a bad price at that if around $500. Thank you
@blagzster6255
@blagzster6255 Год назад
RU-vid is full of so called Technicians. They are self taught with no formal electronics training, they can measure volts and ohms and use hot air to change components. If they are lucky things work, sometimes.
@pe3ke117
@pe3ke117 Год назад
repairs in Kriss videos looks so "simple", because of that many so called "technicians" think they "can do it". big mistake . it took years to look reair so EZ. strongly recomend homemade technicians stay hundrets of miles away from this level of repairs... better go play barbie 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@KrisFixGermany
@KrisFixGermany Год назад
😅
@jasonriddell
@jasonriddell Год назад
... go play with dead electronics from a local scrapper / flee-bay "parts-repair" section and a LOT of the flee-bay ones are RMA reject with what the fault is
@volkerwatjen3533
@volkerwatjen3533 Год назад
I know this. Two Cards missing at the same way you talk abaut. 😂 A 2070 and a 2080 srap metal
@spookytofu2078
@spookytofu2078 2 года назад
@bahadoromid3554
@bahadoromid3554 2 года назад
Good Job , Thank you
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