the best description I've seen so far of Avengers ETicket v1 was that it was Flight of Passage + Dumbo. The Quinjet we ride in to start with would "explode" and disappear (like the Cosmic Rewind pre-show), allowing the Soarin' like seats we're on to fan out, like spreading your fingers (✋> 🖐) and letting each "finger"/"jetpack" control individually how high or low it went (like Dumbo or AstroOrbiter)
I think Disney California Adventure should keep its name. Yes it’s not the same theme as it originally was, but it’s still located in California. For example, Six Flags over Georgia is not Georgia themed but it’s located in Georgia. I could even see them opening a fifth park in Florida and calling it Disney’s Florida Adventure even though it’s just a bunch of IP based land and areas.
Honestly, if they are looking at adding a new attraction to DCA by 2028 for the Olympics, the Avenger’s E-ticket would be the best route to go. The Avatar expansion, I think, would be better to save for an expansion into the Downtown Disney parking lot expansion. But, I do think the first thing we will see would be the new version of the eastern gateway expansion. Now, the 70th is next year, but in 2030 is the 75th. So I wouldn't be surprised if we see the Avatar experience in the new expansion to open that year. As far as a new name, if they should keep the acronym, I think Disneyland’s Cinematic Adventures would be a good name. You get to keep the old-school LA/Hollywood front area but allow for better incorporation of the present lands and future lands.
The plan to move the shuttle area is one of the main projects to be able o clear and expand the Hollywood lot. The design that have consider would actually give DCA 8 to 9 acres depending on whether they decide to remove the philharmonic theatre which does not pull in the numbers they would have liked. The land bridge and pedestrian walkway would not take as much land as in the sketch shown. as for the monorail they are still considering the original plans and that is to reroute the monorail to run right next to the return track along Disneyland on north side of the existing shuttle area
The Pirates ride is entirely indoors. The Avatar version appears like a large portion will be outdoors, so the ride building will probably be much smaller. Also, there are old plans out there for Disneyland ripping out the Subs and Autopia. Included with that was a rerouting of the Monorail. It was going to be removed completely from Disneyland, and instead it would do a u-turn in the Esplanade, the eastern point of the track being about where the security gates are. It would still cross the bridge inside DCA, but then curve to the Esplanade before entering Hollywood Land. That one's in their Blue Sky plans, so it's most likely what they're going to do. I don't think the Avengers ride is going to be based on the Peter Pan ride. I think you were close in your video about the Peter Pan ride when you suggested it might be a flying theater simulator like Soaring or Flight of Passage. The pic you show of construction appear to have four separate theaters, which means either a smaller Flight of Passage, with flat screens, or a much MUCH smaller Soaring. Considering there's a Soaring already in DisneySea, I doubt it's that. Also, I don't think the boats work realistically with that ride system. 12 people hanging below the ride system, connected only in the back? Does not seem easy or very safe. More likely they will just put those boats on the platforms that Flight of Passage uses. Hence the very high sides and back. Another reason behind this is that Oriental Land Company insisted the Imagineers create rides with better throughput. Considering the size of the Frozen and Tangled boats, this was directed at the Peter Pan rides. It could mean just the Tinker Bell ride, which appears to use trackless vehicles again, but I think it is a direct dig at Flight of Passage, which seems to handle about 1400 riders per hour. Of course Avengers COULD use the Flight of Passage system, but I think they're going to put Flight of Passage in the Avatar land. James Cameron has said he's willing to make a Way of Water film for the new land, and there's no way Disney will turn him down. I'd normally predict it would be Phase 2 - Disney loves its Phase 2s - but I don't think they can screw with Cameron. He's why the Pandora land doesn't look cheap. This may explain why nobody talks about the Avengers ride while Iger won't shut up about Avatar. The SMART thing to do would be open a new ride before closing down an entire land. But this is Disney and they will happily spend the next 4 years with no new ride, and then punt Avengers down the road for a good 5 years after opening Pandora 2. As for the Paris name change: dreadful and generic. I would've preferred Disney Paris Adventure. This would've tied it to Disney California Adventure, and it would've made people shut up about the whole California thing. It's an ADVENTURE that takes place in CALIFORNIA (or PARIS). Move on with your lives! I think they may have come up with a variation of that here. I think when it actually gets renamed - not until Arendelle opens - it'll really be Disney Adventure World Paris. And DCA will become Disney Adventure World California. And the other Studios will become Disney Adventure World Florida. After the castle parks, they're the three parks that are the most alike. Or at least the parks that aren't as different as Epcot and Animal Kingdom. Disney still has issues getting people to realize that "Disneyland" is more than one park and "Disney World" is more than one park. Multiple Adventure Worlds can change that.
But would it be themed to Guardians though? They already have Tower of Terror. There are other Marvel teams to pull from. Perhaps X-Men or Fantastic Four if they’re just going to clone Cosmic Rewind.
I’ve heard rumors of them wanting to build a Wakanda land, in which case, it would make more sense to build that in the Hollywood backlot with its proximity to Avengers Campus. Avatar land would then make more sense to be built in the DCA expansion zone of Disneyland Forward. We will see I guess…
It always fascinates me to hear about the logistics behind making the magic work! Regardless of what they choose to do, I'm always excited to see DCA grow and change, it has become its own worthy experience and continues to improve every day. Thanks for the breakdown Jack!
This all sounds great an all, but I fear that DCA is heading in the direction of the Hollywood Studios and becoming a park that's just full of e-ticket rides, resulting in 90 minute waits for everything. All the castle parks have that perfect balance of e-ticket and filler rides, and they really need to work that method into some of their second gates as well!
Surprised you didnt even bring up the possibility of it being build behind pixar pier, like the disneyland forward concept art suggested. Given that plan was approved, would that happen?
One thing that cpuld really go well in that area behind Pixar Pier.. could be a Beymax/Big Hero 6 E ticket attraction.. they would be able to have the queue start in San Fransokyo, near the Beymax store & Meet & Greet.. and then snake it through that surprisingly wide area between the Cliffs of Radiator Springs and the start of the Board walk of Pixar Pier.. and put it behind the Incredicoaster, you coukd have a Beymax themed Flight of Passage style flying ride where you fly through the skies of San Fransokyo and chase/battle a baddie. The showbuilding wouldn't even have to be as big as Flight of Passage.. because it won't need to contain as much of the queue which will be stretched through from San Fransokyo Square.
I figure that all of that is so far away in terms of demolition that it's not worth trying to make blind guesses as the concept art so far all seems to be for example purposes only.
@@MrVIPGuest well whats the evidence that hollywood will be demolished? And why leave the theater and other side if your going to do so? It also makes more sense for a area as large as what this likely will be. 6-8 acres simply isnt enough.
I gotta admit, Jack. Your video introduction with a shadow-free news paper article appearing with the cartoon arm and the name before the tune ends is totally new. The future for Disney's California Adventure could make Disneyland upgrade to automatic moving park props to resemble ThrillVille: Off the Rails. The expansion of Avatar attraction is quite extensive and the floating rocks from the movies resemble Mario World objects which float magically.
There can even be a collage of longest-living-champion statues of Crush and Mama Odie along with Mickey when he turns 100 years old. Same for lifetime pictures of characters when they were young, their present selves and when they grew old.
It never gets old, the ending with the cast names being thanked and the images of two prior videos from years, months, weeks and days ago get a matching suggestion in front of them like they popped into a reality to just be selected.
If the Disney Parks always decorate for Halloween and Christmas, they can also decorate for Valentine's Day, St. Patrick's Day, Easter and Independence Day. Also if a lot of the buildings along with the castle are decorated for those holidays, the trains can be next.
Might be an unpopular opinion, but I always thought DCA should have a dark ride for *Fantasia.* It'd fit in much better with Buena Vista Street than either Avatar or Monster's Inc, and Disney wouldn't need to enclose the monorail. Either way, crossing my fingers for a Fantasia 2000 rerelease next year!
I hope this version of Avatar comes. After riding Cosmic Rewind in Epcot, I think it would be cool to see something like that come to Avengers Campus, but under the Avengers IP. They can make the jump points themed to Doctor Strange Portals, and have a similar style of tech to what the ride vehicle we have seen is.
I feel like a name change would actually make DCA worse, especially to those who are not familiar with the history of the park. Why is Pixar's equivalent of Fantasyland a cheap pier that doesn't feature settings similar to their films? Why is the Marvel land based off a California headquarters rather than New York or another location actually seen in the MCU? I know that recent additions to the park barely fit DCA's theme, but they are still designed to loosely connect to it. They could make Avatar work in this park in the same way Cars Land works. Cars Land fits in the park as it represents California car culture despite being located in Arizona (it was even being designed as a non-IP land before the imagineers discovered that Pixar was making a movie with those same themes). A Way of Water land could maybe represent California coasts or something similar, which could explain why the concept art features alien versions of sea otters and seagulls instead of the more iconic creatures from the film.
They could also do it partially underground like Pirates of the Caribbean is that’s the advantage Disneyland has compared to Disney world is going underground
Disney rebranded and removed the possession from its theme park names years ago. It’s Disney California adventure. Instead of Disney’s California adventure.
I really don't think that DCA needs to change it's name. This is an Adventure that is available in California. Disney Paris and Disney Shanghai (etc) aren't apologizing for their names.
Not sure if joking, but California Adventure wasn't named for being in Cali, it was named because all the attractions used to be themed around California experiences, like Soarin, which flew over California (before they expanded it to fly over the world), or the Tower of Terror being a Hollywood thing. As the years passed, they added Disney themes to it (all the characters and movies/shows), so now it only has a few Cali themed things left. So that's why the consideration of a name change.
It's not that it's available in California - when DCA first opened the park was supposed to "be" California, from a replica seaside pier to Hollywood. The more DCA is modified, the less distinctly "California" it is
If Pandora goes into the Hollywood backlot area it could also take over the Hyperion Theatre. Disney doesn’t use it anymore. Disney could also take over more of the Hollywood Studio street. The Animation Academy is pointless. There isn’t much there so shortening the street would be feasible. A name change is almost certain. As for the Paris studio name change, Orange Grove 55 had the best suggestion: Wonderful World of Disney which would also work for Disney California Adventure.
Animation Academy isn't pointless, I must add it's the basis for the entire company! It really all started with a pencil. Without eraser! It fills up every 30 minutes with at least 50-80% seats taken. That's a decent people sponge. Also, just watched my 14yo niece draw Eeyore this last week, giving her valuable lessons in the Disney style, for improving her excellent math class doodles. I shall always defend Animation Academy. It rocks. ;-)
I still want all the costumes of the characters to look exactly alike for all the people who dress up and act like them, same for the brand-new costume to resemble Mickey's trademark colors I thought up called the U.D.E. Suito.
I thinknFresh Baked nailed it. The bus loops move freeing up the space. So the sequence is build the eastern gate entrance followed by avatar followed by disney foward.
I love your idea about changing DCA. The Disney Cinematic Adventure park makes a lot more sense. Whenever we visit, I dread going to that park. There’s nothing for me there. My adult sons love it though. At least there’s plenty of places for a cocktail.
If they REALLY push it, they could do avengers in ‘26 and avatar in 28. MAYBE. But they would have to start work on both right now/as soon as dlf goes through
I would love to see Imagineers replace Pixar Pier with Avatar. Many of the off the shelf rides can be removed and the lake easily could handle a new look. Pixar Pier has always bothered me since Walt built Disneyland because he did not like the boardwalk parks of his time. As for renaming the DCA what about DisneyPlus or DisneyPlusAdventures?
Great video thanks. I wonder when they could even start on Hollywood area - I’m assuming the new parking structure comes before anything. Love all this - just wish it could happen sooner.
I’d just keep the name California Adventure. The park is situated in California, so it fits fine enough. I was also under the impression that they want to expand the parks outside of the existing perimeter? Wouldn’t an Avatar land fit over there? I feel like Guardians tower would be a potential eyesore for it if it were where Hollywoodland is.
I really don't see this going into dca, especially not in hollwoodland. I agree with Alicia Stella that it's going beyond the berm in Disneyland near SWGE
I can only tell you what the rumors are indicating. And even though it would make sense as part of a larger expansion. Apparently they want this in DCA to boost DCA’s offerings.
I'm hoping for an indoor roller coaster in Avengers campus like cosmic rewind. No more screen rides for me and my family they make us all motion sick. Plus we already have spiderman which is like a screen ride. PS I would rather rip out Autopia and put in Avitar there. I think it makes more sense and there's a bunch of room over there.
Cinemagique would've been perfect! They clearly haven't abandoned the movie magic idea for the park entirely based on the new entrance area, so why cut it from the park's name when it was already struggling to find any identity?
“Disney Cinemagic/CinéMagique” is definitely a show or a parade, at best. Doesn’t sound like a park name. DCA doesn’t need a name change. Just like EPCOT is hardly about the “community of tomorrow” anymore yet it keeps its name. The story at DCA is about Walt’s Los Angeles when he first moved here, Pixar Pier is based off of a classic beachside carnival, San Fransokyo is basically San Francisco, the whole Grizzly Peak/Grand Californian is based off of the Sierra Nevadas/Redwoods. I’m thinking there’s plenty about it that still screams “California”.
Seems the word Adventure is going to be the magic word. This word Adventure does not lock them into a specific theme and allows them to do a different blend of attractions within the various parks that do not have a specific theme
I think another decent spot they could look to put the Avatar land, is Grizzly peak.. tho I love Grizzly River Rapids.. it is a seasonal attraction and it's capacity isn't the vest.. you convert that mountain to be pandora on one side and a regular mountain in the far side, hiding the massive showbuilding for the boat ride.. they increase the capacity a lot, and turn that quieter corner of the park with only one ride and a kiddy play area, into a popular land that has 2+ attractions and some shops and at least one food venue (bringing the Bao Bun cheeseburgers to the west coast).
I would like the attraction just from Shanghai for the Avatar Land in Disneyland, I would agree with that name like from Paris. But next time, they will agree to my plans to reopen with the new look of the entrance to the Rocket Rods.
As much as I love Navi and FOP, it would be great if DL got a different kind of ride. I like traveling between the coasts to try new experiences. Great job as always J!
Regarding the location of Avatar, I could see Soarin' replaced with Flight of Passage, Grizzly River Run already having plumbing infrastructure for that new boat ride, and the Redwood Creek trail re-themed since these areas already have trees similar to Avatar in Animal Kingdom. This would mean less need to demo buildings and re-create the forest environment over in Hollywood land.
Everyone does call it DCA, so they should keep that in mind. However, Paradise Gardens needs a name that fits with the Walt Disney Animation IP's of that corner of ex-Paradise Pier in order for the "cinema" name to kind of work. Buena Vista Street can take some of the Hollywood elements. Also, the park would loose the Streetcar as the shops are where the Avengers E-ticket will go (guess they could reroute it past Soarin'-but that might mean Earl of Sandwich goes if they really want to keep it, but I doubt it)
A thought just occurred to me: Alice Stella has said that the Harry Potter attraction at UEU will use a tracked motion base + elevator cab ride system, that can reach a very tall Z-axis height to create dramatic drops and rises. I'm wondering if Peter Pan at Disney Seas uses something similar, if that is going to be the surprise feature of that ride that makes it feel like flying with Peter? And if that is true, could the Marvel E-ticket as DCA have been planned for something similar?
I do like the idea of DCA > Disney's Cinemagic Adventure park (or closely similar). I always felt like with all the Studios Disney now owns or overlords over, DCA and Studios were the perfect fit to represent them, but I would have organized the layout like this (also fiscally speaking, it's more efficient): ORIGINAL PLAN: > Buena Vista Street --> something more akin to Hollywood without crossing too much into the Universal territory. What BVS represents is awesome, but it's very very very lost in translation and even if you were to try to find IRL where it's representative, Carthay Square doesn't exist anymore. That being said, this land would be very similar to what it already is, just paying homage to DCA's origins and the (southern) California spirit. > Hollywood Land --> Avengers Campus > A Bug's Land/Car's Land --> Pandora: World of Avatar & Fox Backlot (Avatar & Fox Studios) > Pixar Pier --> Pixar Pier (it makes the most sense with what's available) > Grizzly Peak --> Galaxy's Edge (Star Wars) CURRENT RECONCEPT PLAN: > Buena Vista Street --> same as above > Hollywood Land --> Star Wars Bay (I'm still not happy with plopping that franchise in Disneyland, even if it's a good land, it just fits better in this park. > A Bug's Land > Avenger's Campus (Stays, just expands with the hopes and dreams of everyone else) > Car's Land > Stays, but it's a tough one to keep as it's really intensely Pixar focused with the rest of the map, bit uneven. Alternately, would work as a Star Wars option as well. > Pixar Pier --> Stays, perhaps expands pathing in ways that really allow more immersion to Pixar and less hodgepodgey with the rest of the park the way it is now. > Grizzly Peak --> Avatar (seriously, between the lushness and scope of the project, there's really quite a simple yet elegant way to redevelop this land into Avatar). Technically, they wouldn't even have to swap the ride out, just heavily retheme it (and yes goodbye grizzly bear mountain facade). The Soarin' concept works well for both a retheme or just utilizing that as the outpost for humans (very military-themed). And the perimeter that expands into Redwood Challenge and other diners/shopping could easily get overhauled into more immersive experiences, as well! It's really just the elephant in the room that seems to make most sense. However, I wouldn't be opposed to redoing the rapids with the PotC Shanghai concept as a new hybrid ride, too.
I don't see an Avatar Land squeezed into that spot next to Buena Vista St. For that Hollywood Land backlot area, I'd rather see a Snow White Seven Dwarfs Mine Train going there with a transition through a replica of Disney's original Hyperion Studios (Google it for image, it would look amazing off Buena Vista St.) and a queue past animation desks and storyboard walls where they are working on Snow White, the movie that was so central to Disney's success. This would make Buena Street make sense as far as relating to Disney IP (which is important to Iger) and make sense with Carthay Circle Theater as that's where it premiered. It completes the "story" of old Hollywood and Walt Disney. Unlike Magic Kingdom, this version could largely be inside a soundstage show building with amazing environmental effects and projections.
i could see it having the alpha centuri expedition theme like AK but is located in a different part of pandora so it's in the same time period as World of Avatar
This is the single best video I have seen on the potential Avatar Land for Disneyland resort. One important point, all of the Disneyland Forward paper work stated there would be no bus or ride-share drop off along Harbor after the Eastern Gateway is built. That would free up 2-3 acres on the east side of your diagram where ride-share drop off currently sits. I also think 2028 is an important year. Bravo!
Thanks! Also I showed the expanded 6 acre version of the land because of how the bus loop will be moving to the other side of Habor Blvd. 6-7 acres should be enough for a mini land with a great E-Ticket boat ride.
@@DSNYNewscast You're the best! I also think if you rotate the pirates show building 90 degrees south, the concept art fits perfectly. Definitely, no room for two rides.
10:24 I bet Disney would also reroute the monorail track for this. If they could reroute Rivers of America, the Jungle Cruise, and the railroad within their history, the monorail track would be a piece of cake in comparison to those.
I really do not see why they would or have to change the name of DCA. There is a reason they removed the "S from the name a while back. They basically wanted to basically say this is a Disney Adventure park in California and not so much a park about California. At this point I think most tourist take it as that.
If it’s going in Disneyland forward though it won’t happen for a while. Nothing on Disneyland forward can happen at all until they build the new parking structure across the street since it’s all replacing parking. And that isn’t going to be completed overnight
Avatar really ought to go into Disneyland Park somewhere. California Adventure still has a pretty reasonably California theme and to just plop down Avatar into it would destroy it. Yes, even Avengers Campus, Cars land and Pixar Pier all feel attached to California in some capacity. Avatar, nothing at all.
OK, so what are everyone's predictions for what the rebrand of California Adventure will be? Once Avatar goes it, the floodgates will be busted open to be able to rebrand to be more inclusive of all these different properties in the park. Disney's Worlds of Wonder? Or just a subtle Disney Lands of Adventure? What do you think it'll be? Edit: LOL maybe I should wait until the video is over before commenting apparently
If they get rid of the Monsters inc land at CGA, that is more of a reason for them to make the Launch Bay Area of Hollywood Studios into a Monsters inc themed land / area. The idea would be that once you walk into the launch bay courtyard, it would be a Monsters inc themed land, with the Launch Bay building and behind becoming the Monsters Inc factory … that houses a Vekoma suspended family coaster themed to the door chase scene in the movie (as the doors are racing suspended on tracks through the giant factory warehouse looking for Boo and chasing Randall), the entrance to the ride could be the entrance to the factory that we see in the movie a couple of times where Celia is the receptionist. Then, to add to the land, in that area where Disney Junior or Little Mermaid is, you can move the Laugh Floor from Magic Kingdom to that location. In Magic Kingdom. Tomorrowland, they should use the spaces where Laugh Floor was along with Space Ranger Spin (yes, close space Ranger Spin) … and create a whole new eTicket attraction that fits the theme of tomorrow Land (perhaps a WALL·E attraction) that is a trackless dark ride
I wonder when they're going to have an expansion for Galaxy's Edge 🤔. There was some talk about the expansion couple of years back. have you heard anymore 🤔?
Since many of the rides are dark rides inside a building - theoretically they could extend the ride building *under* the bus loops, central courtyard, etc. Three dimensions - if you're inside you wouldn't know you were below ground level. ;-)
Very true, but also that bus loop is going to be relocated to the other side of Harbor Blvd, when they build the new parking structure over there. So you’re right they could easily dig deep like they did with Rise to hide such a tall show building.
Really surprised you didn’t mention that DCA is approaching a milestone 25 years in 2026. I would think they would want some new big attraction to celebrate that.
I much prefer the idea of each park having a unique version of a shared ride. i've never understood why you would make two Star Wars lands for example which are the same. Use your imagination to create new lands and rides each and every time.
Put in the WDW security screening protocol in DL. That would move traffic faster. For Pete's sake, the Magic Band experience should be IDENTICAL at both US parks. That is pretty basic. Pixar Pier seems expendable to me. Need to keep World of Color. Wonder why Disney didn't use the FOP model for the Avenger e ticket ride. Have a jet pack instead of a banshee.
The Hyperion Theater is also part of Hollywood Land. Also, I don't know what they would do with the Monorail since it goes right through Hollywood Land. Excited to see, but I dont know where they will put it. I think California Adventure could keep its name. They could name in Disney Hollywood Adventure, since Hollywood is in California and the whole pare is just turning into movie rides. I think California Adventure could still work.
You say DCA can continue to grow over by pixar pier. Do you mean just out west toward the hotels (aka Disneyland Forward) or do you mean there's room to grow now, without that new zoning?
I meant once the zoning and prep work is done on the Simba parking lot, then they can grow out that direction. But that will require quite a bit of work before they can do that. Hollywoodland is much easier to develop right now.
All your theories are great, but sadly, Disney isn't the same ambitious and creative company that they used to be. They love making money, but hate spending it, so we continue to get sub par attractions and expansions. More money is probably going to Disneyland Forward infrastructure, but I'm sure all we'll get is another resort and a really scaled down version of Avatar
I don't love that Avatar Land would go into that area of the park, though I've been saying for years that area is a total waste of space for what's in there. Frankly if they're going to go that route, they should just go ahead and knock down the Hyperion theater and\or where the building where the Animation Academy is since they took out the Sorcerer's workshop and hardly anyone goes in there (though i love it in there). That just seems like an odd transition from Hollywood, to Avatar, back to Hollywood... I just don't think that's a great area for something that big. And is it really a Land of us just a singular ride? I think it would be a better fit where the Nemo subs are over in DL.. Though I think there's been talk of Tron going in there. If they're going to change the name they probably want to keep some aspect of California in there since there's still a large California theme to the park: Disney's Hollywood Adventure
No one seems to mention it but they could have far more ambitious plans for that region of the park. In fact, it seems like they are giving us indications of it. I am referring to the theater and it’s courtyard which takes up a massive amount of space and isn’t even being used currently along with the Animation building across the way which is horribly underutilized. I could easily see that entire Hollywood section being bulldozed to make a huge Avatar section. But that also presents a huge problem. The red car. Would they really bulldoze something that they spent so much money on building relatively recently? Hmmmm. Maybe. They aren’t exactly good long term planners these days and do waste money. BUT….this entire Avatar project could be actually planned for across the street near the Pixar Place hotel in what is now the Downtown Disney lot which is absolutely mammoth in size and could easily be connected and thus a part of California Adventure still. Although yes, the park needs a new name. And somehow they need to sort out how the hotel and rapids ride area fit into it. That park was built so wrong that they are still sorting it out decades later.
Thanks for another great video jack, your so informative and I love your imagineering intake that you bring your so creative, I love your idea for the boat ride, I wonder if it will look as grand as they portray though? I remember the artwork for the river journey and that looked amazing but in real life so much smaller, I hope they do it justice being an e ticket ride, I wish the avengers e ticket was the same as cosmic rewind, that would be fun but themed to avengers, just a thought lol
Avatar would have to go in the Disneyland forward expansion areas. It's just too big. And they can't even begin any construction on that until the eastern gateway is built. We have a ways before anything is ever built.
If anything needs a rename it’s Hollywood studios, that names just doesn’t make any sense anymore, especially with 45% of the park just being Star Wars
Hate to disagree (cuz i think u are typically spot on!).. but if Avatar was going inside DCA, then it wouldn't be waiting on DL foward. DL forward isnt about expansion within the current parks' boundaries. It's 100% about rezoning the current parking areas into theme park area. W/o the vote, the area could only be used for parking, not rides, entertainment, etc.
DisneylandForward is about giving Disney permission to expand in all those zones over the next 28 years. They are not committing to using all the expansion space immediately. Doing the eastern parking garage is part of DisneylandForward, which will impact how they do Avatar land.
@@DSNYNewscast yea but they could start with 10 to 14 acres for pandora and a parking garage and that would probably cost about or under 1.9 billion that they have promised in the first decade. As soon as approved they can break ground. If they tried to build it in hollywoodland it would take extra time and cost extra to rip up all those existing assets as you mentioned and they would have to reroute the monorail track. If they put zootopia or wakanda there they could arguably keep the monorail in its current location without intruding on theming
