Pandora - World Of Avatar Is Coming To Disneyland, But Where? 

This guy should be a Bigfoot hunter. Just makes an entire video on speculation. I work for Disney and you have no idea what you’re even talking about

Stopping Reservations and lighting Lane would do more then Avatar Land ever could - Toss in a Peoplemover and were good! Cheers Brickey...

Grizzy River Run, the Challenge Trail (a must for families with children), and the whole area is far and away the nicest part of DCA and sets up a beautifully functional border for the Grand Californian. I can't imagine shoving Pandora in there and giving the folks at the GC a great show building view for their 800 a night rooms...

Love your honesty at the end of the video. I agree that Avatar/Pandora works for Animal Kingdom, and I too would like to see something new done in Tomorrowland and DCA. I’d prefer that WED do different things here in Anaheim vs Orlando … that would actually benefit both parks, increase attendance/demand at both, which seems like a better long term strategy.

An Avatar indoor boat ride on the scale of Pirates of the Caribbean would be the ideal integration of Avatar into DLR. And that attraction going into DCA would be a win-win since DCA has always been lacking an indoor boat ride.

So sad that DCA isn’t at all about it California anymore. Really love it as it was at opening. The grand Californian with the trees & grizzly river run is beautiful and really akin to Yosemite/Kings Canyon National parks

Disney has already walked back Bob's "land" comments and have returned to describing Avatar as an "experience"

The only reason Avatar gets full in Animal Kingdom is because there's no other rides in that park. it makes sense on DCA on Grizzly area because it would disperse people more. but i'm not sure who is hype for Avatar.

no matter how they build this, there is just no way to make this land fit in with the theming or fit into the area of the parks. I wish they would put the money into making more original attractions for disneyland and fixing tomorrowland instead of copy pasting pre existing lands.

Honda sponsorship of Autopia ends in 2026, so nothing can happen with the land before then. And as one of the last remaining attractions with a corporate sponsor it’ll probably stick around as long as they can find new sponsors. Reskinning the submarine voyage to the way of water could be fun, but sadly the capacity is way to low to make that viable

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The Villains’ Grove that they do in Grizzly Peak is also beloved.

Grizzly river run is one of the top draws for me in the entirety of the parks…. Especially in the summer… And since splash mountain is gone and I don’t have high hopes for it lackluster replacement, the Griz is my go to for water rides and fun! I say, no touchy touchy to the Grizzly!

I’m with you and not super stoked on Pandora coming to Disneyland. It works at Animal Kingdom but as a franchise, it’s just not for me. I wouldn’t be gutted to see Autopia go away but I really love the area around GRR and would be bummed to lose it. Thanks for all you do!

I can't picture Disneyland without Autopia, it's a staple for the park. :o😮

Be better off with a Lilo and Stitch land . Another water ride and a virtual ride and rocket ships re themed 🤷

To me it's a head scratcher that Disney wants to keep pouring tons of money into new investments when they don't do anything to maintain what they already have (aka Tomorrow Land.) Who do they think they are, Six Flags?

Disney needs to do something or Universal will end up as the “go to” theme park, not Disneyland.

If they put Pandora in the Grizzly Peak area, they would just reskin Grizzly River Run to be an alternate version of Navi River Journey, replace the interior of Soarin with FOP, and do some different theming in the Challenge Trail area.

As the case with Cars Land, Avatar Land would make more sense within the framework of DCA, not Disneyland. The park premiering in 2001 remains the weak sister of DL, premiering in 1955. So it needs a major shot in the arm more than DL does. Also, a total net increase instead of a net decrease is needed. That's why nothing major in a Disney park, certainly in land-locked Anaheim, should be eliminated to make way for a new attraction. Splash Mt being replaced by Tiana Bayou Adventure is already bad enough.

Im sold with the location of grizzly run! Though I've not watched either Avatar movies, what I have seen of Animal Kindom, and the Valley of Mo'ara with the Biolumenecence does look amazing

Disney should have been doing this all along instead of now trying to catch up to Universal. Iger's long-term plans change on a daily basis.

Great video...But I'll be honest - I'd be sad to lose GRR... I know it's so much easier for them to just pull a copy & paste - But if they do Avatar I'd hope it would be something new!

Don’t touch my monorail! Autopia fine! But Pandora is gonna have to have monarails run through it!🤞🏻

Yay, more stale IP gumbo. I'd honestly be more exited for a Flubber Land or a Love Bug Ride at this point.

I don’t care for water rides either, so grizzly isn’t a big draw for me, but I do like the vibes of the area. As soon as you pointed out it’s a seasonal attraction that doesn’t really move merchandise, that takes out any weight of my “vibes” argument to keeping the area. I know Disney will choose a year round, merch moving idea over a vibe. I feel the same way as you do. Replacing autopia or grizzly with avatar would be an upgrade, even with me not really being an avatar fan. I will appreciate the vibes regardless of how this all shakes out.

I love the Grizzly Peak Land and think its one of the best in DCA. I hope we don't lose it to Avatar.

Might as well do something with tomorrowland

I might lose an hour of sleep tonight, but I gained another Brickey video. That’s a win for me!

You are god-level intelligent with your videos. I don't think I have experienced someone on RU-vid, who is as likeable, charismatic, intelligent, and has me in awe by the end of the video; whether its a 5 minute video or an hour video. I don't know if you have a source for your ideas or if they are truly, your imagination, but either way, I am highly impressed, and have been for over a year. I'm excited whenever I see that you've posted. Thank you so much.

Grizzly Peak is where I think it will go realistically due to the theming it be excellent land for DCA.

WDI retracted Iger statements to experience again but I tend to believe the CEO than anyone else

I enjoy the Avatar films and have contributed plenty to those box-office revenues, but I agree that it doesn't deserve a land at the Disneyland Resort. Bob Iger seems to be misinterpreting the box office revenue as widespread popularity. But Avatar isn't Star Wars or Frozen. That's because it's impossible to recreate James Cameron's vision in real life. The Walt Disney World land comes close (mostly because of the giant screen and 3D glasses), but that's because Avatar was always intended to be experienced in IMAX 3D. No home theater viewing experience can possibly do it justice, so people have to see it in theaters for a limited time if they want to see it at all. The ticket sales are a result of a rare, truly blockbuster film franchise getting a new installment--not because their kids are watching it on repeat on Disney+. I am a fan of James Cameron's vision of Pandora, yet I'm okay with it staying where it belongs--on the biggest screen possible. 😊

My feelings on it is they are going to extend fantasyland and place a Beaty and the beast ride or frozen ride where autopia is. Or they extend Tomorrowland and place tron there. I worked Nemo and monorail and have thought about this a lot lol

Movie tickets are there but the Fandom isn't. Let's face it its easier to dress as vader than an 8ft talk blue alien

They need to give Tomorrowland the upgrade it deserves. With an “Alien” attraction since Disney now owns 20 Century Fox

I agree with you. I'm not a big Avatar fan.

They should just re-theme Star Tours to avatar or tear down launch bay and put avatar ride attraction in there! I personally don’t see them tearing down grizzly River run since the area is amazing All the tall trees now. I know you wouldn’t want to see them take away villains Grove.

Disney should focus on bringing Classic Disney themes to Disneyland. DCA can have some of the newer themes/IP's. Avatarland in Disneyland is bizarre. Avatar does not excite me, but a Tomorrowland remake would definitely have my interest. To each their own.

An Avatar “land” doesn’t necessarily mean it has to have Flight of Passage. There is no reason why a new and unique ride can’t be introduced for the West Coast Pandora. Plus, if it DID have FOP, and WAS in DCA, you’d literally have Soarin’ and Soarin’ 3D (FOP) 50 feet from each other.

So 16:25 on, yes. I fully agree with every single one of your beliefs about Avatar and the current rides.

As much as I love Grizzly River Run and the icon it was for DCA when it first opened, I think it's appropriately sized for Pandora. But like you, it's just hard to see the appeal of Avatar at Disneyland and I've never recognized it as having a cult following like Star Wars has. Autopia or the Hollywood Backlot are spots that need a reimagining though imo, and I'm hopeful that Disney will make something really cool to take over those spots.

The lack of culture behind Avatar is a good point. Has a timeline for this buildout been released? Galaxy's Edge took about 3 years to build if I recall...

I think that Goofy's Sky School, Silly Symphony Swings, Golden Zeppelins, and Jumpin Jellyfish should be rethemed or replaced by something here are the suggestions 1. Retheme it into a land area into the Muppets the reason why I say that is that after Disney got rid of Muppet Vision 3-D Disneyland does not have a Muppets themed attraction so I think that the Golden Zeppelins Shoulr be rethemed to Pigs in Space which is from The Muppets Show and mkved near the next attraction is Goofy's Sky School will be rethemed to the Electric Mayhem the attraction has you board the The Electric Mayhem Bus instead of Goofy's plane and the attraction is that the band is driving crazy in L.A. to get to The Muppet Theatre and at the End you make it to the Theatre and the attraction will be the same like Goofy but with a new show scene for the attraction. The Pizza Palace will become Pizza Rizzo from Disney World, the Silly Symphony Swings will be rethemed to Sam the Eagle were you seat that is supposed to be a Air Force plane, and lastly Jumpin Jellyfish will be rethemed to Gonzo where you launch in a cannon and launch in the air. 2. Demolish the attractions to make way for a land based on FreeGuy because Disneyland does not have a attraction based on the 20th Century Studios IP the land will contain a Ice Cream shop that sells Bubble Gum Ice cream from the film and it contains the main ride using the same Ride system for The Simpsons Ride at Universal Studios Hollywood but instead of a roller coaster car it's the Car that Guy rides on in the film 3. A land based on Zootopia the main ride will contain the same Ride system for The Simpsons Ride at Universal Studios Hollywood but instead of Rollercoaster cars it's a police officer car the story is that Miss Bellwether escaped from prison and now kidnapped Giselle and your mission is the help Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde help arrested Miss Bellwether and save Giselle and the land will contain shops and some Restaurants.

I don’t see them doing Avatar at Disneyland. It just doesn’t fit in and a “land” is too large for one ip

I’m with you. I would prefer Avatar/Pandora not come to the Disneyland Resort. While the land at Disney Animal Kingdom is beautiful, the attractions are just OK. I’ve never understood the Avatar hype. It seems more like a Universal product IMHO.

Instead, of the simulation ride they have at pandora animal kingdom, I hope they make a avatar themed Rollercoaster, disneyland could sure use more thrill rides.

Remember that episode of “The Office” when Michael Scott finds out Toby returned? Remember his reaction? Yeah…THAT is how I feel about ANYTHING Avatar coming to Disneyland.

Funny no one mentions that fantasyland theater, they don’t use it or have any use. I can see them demo that portion and plotting the land between galaxy’s edge and toontown. Removing autopia is way too much work.

Putting this land in California Adventure is the right answer. They could make another great motion simulator in Flight of Passage, a great boat/flume ride in Navi River Journey, and maybe even a Rollercoaster or Indiana Jones-esque ride. They just have to do what they can to not get rid of Grizzly River Run. That ride is a classic. An entirely new land would completely change the perception of the CA park.

I agree that it doesn’t have too much of a backing/culture here on west coast/Disneyland. I’m not excited about it and would be mad that the ticket prices would obv go up for a land that isn’t popular- who wants another slow ride? Nobody lol. They should extend fantasyland and bring a frozen land along with the ride that’s at WDW. It would be very popular and goes with the snowy Matterhorn!

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It's best not to speculate Yes there's been plans in work for them to turn some part of Disneyland into Avatar but they don't have the money Right now they've got a serious problem with the stockholders and they're happy what's the direction of the company is in and there's a big push to hire another CEO

I think it's fits better in Grizzly Peak, than the back lot or Sorrowland. I like that they are investing money in the park, but not sure Avatar is the right move.

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Actually if they did a full redo of Tomorrowland and made the space more efficient, I feel like the area of Autopia would actually be alright for Avatar. If they do it right they could still have an underground show building (after rebuilding it) and it could either be more space for Avatar or still be available for Tomorrowland. Tomorrowland pretty much takes up the entire right side of the park yet it's home to only six full rides so it would make sense to condense and split up.

DCA makes sense

As much as I would love to keep the submarines I think they need to go. Autopia and Monorail supports sit on top of the underground show building that I am sure is not structurally sufficient to build on top of, along with the high elevation that would put a future show building too high. It also makes sense since you have the old revolving theater that has not housed a ride since America Sings directly adjacent. So the theater, autopia, subs go, and monorail gets a reroute, and that will open up a massive portion of the park for development and it would make sense to expand fantasyland since more IPs fit that theme than any of the other lands. I would also support the river run going even though a cool off water ride is nice on a summer day. Sadly Disney has used up all of its space (again) so they will soon need to again build on their parking lots and obtain more land to push parking farther from the park, or create a new gate in one of the remote lots.

That’s awesome news . Disneyland is finally getting an avatar land . I’m positive it won’t be opened until 2026 . But I’m so excited

Leave Disneyland park alone. They need to leave the Grizzly Peak area alone too. I'd love to see Pandora, but I'd rather see it in the expansion areas from Disneyland forward. I'd like to see a third gate on the Toy Story lot.

Avatar was announced as coming to DCA and it was also announced that it won't replace any existing lands but rather be an expansion of the park.

I'll add to those who don't get thrilled by the idea of Avatar land, and I certainly hope if they were to do it, they don't clone the current land. Navi River Journey should not be build again anywhere. the only reason it gets ridden is there is not much to do in that land, and it is a nice 15 minute climate controlled space in the deathly heat and humidity of Florida. It is certainly not loved, . Maybe something similar to flight of passage, but even if so, make it different. Make it at least a different story. That said, Autopia should go away. Yes it is something of an opening day attraction, but it is a relic of the 1950s and doesn't really work today. Grizzly River might be a fun ride, but people just don't use it enough to justify that huge part of the park it uses. Whether it is Avatar or something else, whatever is in that space needs to be far more productive than GRR

Hey Brickey! Saw you the day you filmed it. I came off the train at Main Street and we admired our tastes in VG gear. You were off to DCA I believe. I think the project is more feasible in DCA than in Tomorrowland. Aside from the Peoplemover and Monorail removal logistics, the submarine show building is a whole other issue. It was built to 1950’s fallout shelter specs and the reinforced concrete will take quite a bit of money and effort to remove it. The treeline in the Grizzly River Run/Redwood Creek area will serve as a ready made buffer for Pandora. Thanks again for another great video!

Taking out a one of a kind classic rides in a park that often fills quickly to add short rides with low capacity doesn’t make sense so Disney will probably do it. Makes more sense to add it to DCA which needs rides for additional capacity makes sense. Be careful comparing Animal Kingdom usage because that park has very few rides to begin with so of course everything Avatar has long lines.

Im surprised nobody is going with Grizzly Peak. Floating mountains would be a cheap overlay. Make the rapids ride themed to way of water, paint the floor fluorescent and its a wrap

Thanks for the update Brickey. I too could care less about Avatar and would prefer not to see it come and totally change Disneyland Resort. I think your placements are pretty right on if they did do it and they would eat up some low volume footage, but like you said in the video, Avatar just doesn't have the following or legacy that Star Wars, MCU, princesses, etc. has. Always appreciate your thoughtful honesty and opinions. I think that is what makes you a true citizen of Disneyland.

To someone who has never been on GRR: it's more than just a water ride. The fact that groups of all ages get to ride facing each other is unlike any other ride. I never laugh harder and see bigger smiles on my kids than on this ride. The threat of the next splash, the spinning, the sounds- all get spun together in a unique sort of "party ride" where everyone is in it together. And sharing in all of the reactions. I highly recommend it for a lot of fun. I undersand that getting wet and walking around isn't always great. But those who pass up on it as just a "water ride" are missing memories to make with their crew.

Yeah I agree, boo to this coming to Disneyland. Not an Avatar hater, I just don’t see it as foundational Disney IP.

Or in the entire block bounded by Disneyland Dr, Magic Way, W Ball and S Walnut as they already proposed once and even filed paperwork with the City of Anaheim. They could even use the parking on the other side of Magic Way next to the Resort and turn the Downtown Disney lot into a multi-story parking garage...besides the one planned for across Harbor Way. I'd even go so far as to replace those surface lots with parking garages and extend the monorail to them with entrances...but that's just me spit balling some ideas.

I don't think they're touching Autopia before Gurr dies

I think it’s great how you show the way something a fit into existing areas. I however am not interested in Pandora coming to Disneyland and really enjoying the Grizzly Peaks area of DCA. If Grizzly River Run needed IPA you can theme it to the movie Brave with the demon bear. Idk if Pandora would fit in the Hollywood Back Lot area of DCA ? But I think that would be better as maybe an X-men campus or some type of Marvel extension. Leave Pandora in Animal Kingdom or possibly in a third Anaheim park ? Idk if the second Avatar movie even did that well ? Keep up the good work! You did a great job presenting it even if we don’t like the IP.

Embrace the chafe Brickey. It’s part of the vibe! Haha!!

Possible locations: 1. If you walk by Small World, and see the gate to the far right... the area just to the right of the walkway, that's where the motorboats used to be. 2. Behind the aforemention gate is the Roundhouse for the trains and monorail, TWDC is considerating that Roundhouse and up to the Team Center to be utilized for expansions.

If they do go ahead with an Avatar land, I also suspect it would go in the Grizzly Peak area of DCA. However I don't think they would demo the whole area and build a replica of the Animal Kingdom version. Instead I think they would keep the Grizzly River Run ride but do an extensive retheme to Avatar (like how they did with Splash Mountain/Tiana's Bayou Adventure). They'd also retheme the Redwood Trail and entire Grizzly Peak area to Pandora. Soarin' would be replaced by Flight of Passage, not sure if they would fit it in the current building or make a new one.

Avatar = Simba Lot? That’s where I always envisioned it going.

Nope nope nope. Keep Tomorrowland as it is. DCA is the place for it

NOOOOOOO! Disney needs to stop putting copies of stuff in Disneyland Resort's very limited precocious space. Bob Iger, come on, what is going on with the thinking over there? And yeah, Avatar doesn't feel Disney at all to me, either. But then again, neither does Marvel.

I hope this ends up in CA. I think Star Wars is out of sync with what DL is about, and Avatar would be too. The problem with Avatar at CA, is that Soaring is a very similar ride. Good Work! Your videos are very insightful.

Yes!! Chaffing is bad!! After years of living in humidity driven Texas, ill pass on any more chaffing

It makes the most sense to plop it where autopia is. 1. It can be built almost like a bowl shaped stadium, the structure being mountains. If they place the floating mountains correctly, and paint snow on the sides facing the Matterhorn, it would make the Matterhorn BETTER. They could make it so, from the outside, nothing looks like it's floating. That these are just solid mountains from the Pennine Alps. Inside the land, a series of, what then look like floating islands, gradually fade to lighter colors, making the peak of the matterhorn maybe even look like it fits with the theme in pandora too. 2. It's more futuristic than the ancient cars in autopia. You would round the corner and instead of seeing old gas power cars, there would be a spaceship or a mech! This seems win win to me if they can pull off my point 1 artfully. I'll be devastated if they remove grizzly river. I love that area. I agree it could use an IP, but I want it to fit the theme of what is there.

as much as an avatar themed area seems really cool, i really hope they don’t do it in DCA and replace grizzly peak. that’s such a pretty part of DCA and def one of the best themed parts of it. 😔

Isn't it sad that after all the billions Disney has spent on some very high value IPs, the best I can do is an Avatar Land........ Give me a break!

If they make avatar land I hope they make the avatar ride video more smooth and better quality, I always get nauseous on that one, and disney knows this and has the ride pause by the water for a few moments to let the nauseous moment calm down a bit to make it thru the ride

Great content on this. I think you nailed it at the end. While both areas look aesthetically pleasing, I'm not sure who's asking for this. I would prefer this to be part of Disneyland Forward, but I'm guessing not. I guess the biggest issue I'm having besides nobody asking for it, is that this isn't something Disney created. They just bought an existing IP, put their name on it and called it theirs....and now we're to just accept this? I'd rather it was organically created and developed from Disney.

But what's going to happen to all Tomorrowland and whats going to happen to space mountain?

It’s quaint that you assume that the suits will try to hide the show building. They TOTALLY stopped doing that at WDW.

I like the Avatar movies but I agree with you. I don't necessarily want it at Disneyland. There is so many Disneyland rides that they have recreated at Disneyworld that are not received well because they are not the same. As such, it seems like some parks get the lesser attractions, which is what I fear will happen with an Avatar attraction at Disneyland, they don't have the space or the money to make it nearly as grand as Pandora. And that's okay. We don't need it. I just wish they would realize that and do something else, if they insist on tearing up already exisiting attractions.

Makes sense. Disney’s also already trying to buy some streets on Anaheim for part of their “expansion”. In my opinion, it’s about time they spent time and money, investing on improving and expanding the Main “ORIGINAL” Disneyland Park. After all, it’s the Disneyland that Walt, himself, worked and walked through! Also, I agree that pandora may not be the right “land”. But I wouldn’t mind having Tron😉

Id hope they wouldn't do a clone of DAK. Maybe make it more like the second movie with an ocean/lagoon feel with different type of rock formations.

While Disney has reverted to saying an Avatar "Experience" is coming to DLR, there is some speculation that Disney is doing this because Bob Iger essentially jumped the gun and announced "land" before they were ready to announce "land". Beyond that, since they are also saying "Disneyland Resort", that does not necessarily mean Disneyland Park. It could also be DCA. My own theory (not that I want to see this, because I would much rather see an entire new land) - A re-theme of Grizzly Peak in DCA. Disney has already made changes to most of the rest of the park from California theming to IP theming. I could very easily see them re-theming Grizzly River Run's current theming to Pandora theming, re-theming Redwood Creek Trail to a Pandora look, Smokejumpers to something similar to Satu'li Canteen in Animal Kingdom, and even changing up Soarin' to something different, (similar to but not exactly like Flight of Passage. And for the record, the Soarin' screen is actually bigger than the screen used for Flight of Passage). Like I said, this isn't something I want to see because I would rather see a whole new land, but I could very easily see Disney going this route to save money while at the same time being able to tell their guests, "See? We're making improvements to the parks!"

When Disney says anything about any announced promises. I will believe it when i see it.

Avatar 2 was about underwater aliens. They could retheme the Nemo subs to alien sea life.

If the WDC doeen't want to fail, their best bet would be to create on new grounds & not replace anything currently at the park. The 2 greatest open spots would be the Toy Story parking lot off Harbor blvd and the current DTD parking lot. Those are two perfect spacious lots that could fit Pandora, IMO.

GRR is amazing and a whole reason that makes the hotel/DVC area make sense. If they make it into Avatar I would sell my DVC membership.

Rather than clone the water ride from Orlando, they should just retheme the rapid ride and keep the infrastructure what it is, being one of the only thrill rides and water experiences at the park. When Disney was in their prime, they had similar but different versions of their attractions. Wish they’d get back to that sentiment, and this would be the perfect opportunity. They could utilize the space there the playground resides to place the sim attraction

It's great to see the conversation that your videos have been inspiring lately. While I am also NOT an Avatar fan, your ideas for what could be are exciting to ponder. 🤘

The general concensus is that copy and paste attractions and lands are cheaper but really how much cheaper is it to make it so prevelant? I live close to Walt Disney World and the exclusive attractions is what makes me want to visit other Disney resorts so I dont want to have to travel to see that same thing I could at home. I hope this is a different take on Avatar like the new movie focused on water.

Disney builds new lands on virgin land. Just because he said Disneyland, he could be referring to the whole resort. They are unlikely to raze Tomorrowland to install Avatar Land. They are more likely to use Simba parking lot. It’s a lot cheaper to not change just about everything in Tomorrowland. Besides, Disney walked back Iger’s comments. Disney is more likely to add Tron in Tomorrowland since the changes aren’t as extensive.

This is 🔥🔥🔥‼️ Excited for this to be a reality.

I absolutely love the whole Grizzly River Wilderness area. Its my favorite spot in DCA. The vibe is so good. Id hate to see anyrhing happen to it, but you can't stop "progress".