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Running A Desktop GPU In A MINI PC 

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In my video on the Geekom mini PC, I mentioned how it wasn't a great gaming system. I also said it wasn't possible to use a desktop GPU because of its size. Well I was wrong on both accounts, almost.
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@supergoofy123
@supergoofy123 Год назад
Thanks for the video. Awesome. Small correction: it's 600% , 6 times faster in Cyberpunk 2077 (from ~8fps to ~49fps)
@ykalon
@ykalon Год назад
Yes, same error in all of the other games too. I was wondering how he calculate...
@kalakaksh
@kalakaksh Год назад
Man probably skipped math classes in school
@VikasAlva
@VikasAlva 9 месяцев назад
That would be 500% and not 600%. 6 times is +500%
@supergoofy123
@supergoofy123 9 месяцев назад
@@VikasAlva Yes you are right, from ~8fps to ~49fps, it is a 512,5% increase
@louieg7676
@louieg7676 7 месяцев назад
Had me scratching my head too the moment I heard him saying those incorrect percentages. Not really a problem but doesn't really inspire confidence on the accuracy of other information he's sharing especially on the numbers.
@vasilispapas482
@vasilispapas482 Год назад
The best part of the whole video is the presentation of the NVMe to PCIe adapter cable!!! With this adapter we gain four PCIe Lanes (4x32Gbps or 4x64Gbps or 4x128Gbps!!!! depending on Gen of NVMe connector which is avaliable on motherboard) So this adapter gives us the possibility to add to a computer an LSI card, iSCSI, QSFPx2, QSFP+x2, RAID controller, or any other component that requires these speeds, either to increase the provided SATA ports or to add a card network with 2x10, 2x40 or 2x100Gbps speeds! Think what you can plug into four lines of direct connection to the processor!!! Excellent video with unlimited applications of the adapter both in upgrades and expansions of capabilities of our new constructions. You remain a Pioneer, keep it up!!!
@NoOneCares2k
@NoOneCares2k 7 месяцев назад
A few of the new mini PCs have oculink ports, I highly recommend checking those out. Cheers.
@KOT-ANGRY
@KOT-ANGRY Год назад
I found strong mini PC at aliexpress and thought about external GPU, but dont know how and what performance will be...and YOU MADE VIDEO ABOUT IT ❤️❤️❤️
@CyberCPU
@CyberCPU Год назад
Glad it helped.
@montollo1098
@montollo1098 9 месяцев назад
awesome tech presentation! There's still a reason to do this, that is if you have multiple uses for your mini PC. I like the idea of having a dedicated spot near the TV for demanding gaming, while still keep the option of taking the mini guy with me without the eGPU if I want to. Thanks for sharing this knowledge.
@rickbrookes9491
@rickbrookes9491 Год назад
I can’t help but doubt that a GTX 1660 uses the full 16x speeds that a modern PCI-E slot provides. But I am sure it’s being restrained quite a bit from 1X. I was really surprised when I saw it run Cyberpunk at a decent enough frame rate that could be playable. I have a 1660 Super and never thought it could, so I haven’t tried. Maybe I’ll give it a shot.
@thegodhoward8037
@thegodhoward8037 Год назад
Sir I play cyberpunk on vega 7 integrated graphics a 1660 super is plenty
@Mope333
@Mope333 8 месяцев назад
@@thegodhoward8037I play GTA 5 and The Finals with a Vega 8 on low 1080 settings and get decent Fps so yeah you’re right lol
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 Год назад
I love how the Lenovo M75Q gen2 (was $488 for a Ryzen 7 and windows 10 Pro in 2020) has the holes in the board for a full PCIe x16 slot, it just doesnt have the thing populated, once i replace it i'd like to try and install one and see if i can run this with a GPU+ribbon cable+external PSU
@captainspire9094
@captainspire9094 Год назад
What this shows me is the sheer level of processing that is now handled by the graphics card, opposed to what the motherboard and CPU used to.
@rompowertube
@rompowertube Год назад
Cool video! How on earth did you come up with your improvement percentages though 😅? They were all wrong imo. If you had 25fps and improve to 50 fps, that's 200% of the original or in other words a 100% improvement. If you had 25fps and improve to 86fps (for instance), that's (100/25)*86 = 344% or a 244% improvement. The numbers you mentioned were way lower
@Hjominbonrun
@Hjominbonrun Год назад
yeah, I saw 138% 74.1 and 13.7 and thought I was mid stroke cos my math wasn't adding up. I calculated 440.8% improvement and for Tombraider 560%. There must be something absolutely fundamental that is being missed cos those are non trivial errors.
@BillKSC
@BillKSC Год назад
I was wondering the same... am I missing something? Or is the math just way, way off?
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 Год назад
Great video, i cant wait to try with my 5700XT on my Lenovo M75Q Gen2 with Ryzen 7 4750GE, and a full sized PCIe slot(not populated with a slot, so i'll need to solder one in) Slight note on performance 7:00 CSGO: 301% improvement, or 401% of the performance GTA V: 279% improvement, or 379% of the performance Wreckfest: 441% improvement, or 541% of the performance SOTR: 560% improvement, or 660% of the performance CP2077: 498% improvement, or 598% of the performance
@davidjames3259
@davidjames3259 11 месяцев назад
HOW IS IT ?
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 11 месяцев назад
@@davidjames3259 i feel called out havent replaced the 4750GE PC in my lenovo TinyInOne because AMD still hasnt released the 7940HS to AM5, meaning Lenovo still has not updated the Tiny InOne line to the new architecture and GPU family Not going to risk breaking the computer i use the most, till i can replace it with something better.
@1980JPA
@1980JPA 21 день назад
1660's are on the used market for $60-$80 right now. This whole rig seems like a "make it happen until i can get better" type of setup and with a gpu under $100 it might be worth it for some temporarily.
@DIYDaveOK
@DIYDaveOK Год назад
Hey I'm not trying to be a nitpicker, but I'm confused; in many of your frame rate improvement examples, you were seeing 3-6x fps improvements, but only showing 116-150 "%" improvements...seems those should be 300-600%, so I'm thinking I am missing something?
@simpsons0600
@simpsons0600 Год назад
Same question
@Safetytrousers
@Safetytrousers Год назад
You are missing something. Percentage difference is different from percentage increase/decrease.
@DIYDaveOK
@DIYDaveOK Год назад
@@Safetytrousers But what math says your percentage increase going from 16 to about 48 is anything other than (48-16)/16*100 or 200%
@Safetytrousers
@Safetytrousers Год назад
@@DIYDaveOK I tried to link a difference calculator but YT wasn't having it. Find one and try.
@DIYDaveOK
@DIYDaveOK Год назад
@@Safetytrousers I did and it supports what I'm saying. Going from 16 to 48 or any doubling or tripling isn't a 116 or 125 or whatever % increae.
@NathanOlea
@NathanOlea Месяц назад
lifesaver, i have that exact mini pc and struggled to run black myth wukong. You saved me 800$ from a new pc. I overlooked the fact if it was dedicated gpu or integrated.
@frankmanzhu
@frankmanzhu Год назад
Your nvme adapter is pcie 1x. You can observe it by just looking at the thickness of the link. It’s way too small. You need to get a better adapter. The link right now isn’t worth it.
@DIYDaveOK
@DIYDaveOK Год назад
Enjoy your vids!! Anyone ever happen to mention you kinda resemble Network Chuck? Cheers!!
@CyberCPU
@CyberCPU Год назад
Yeah, I've heard that before.
@davidmateus9320
@davidmateus9320 Год назад
Thanks for your always appreciated videos ;) Please can you provide the link for the adaptor?
@iminbednow
@iminbednow Год назад
I agree
@Del-Canada
@Del-Canada 11 месяцев назад
I miss having a shop. We used to "Frankenstein" so many things. If some build or configuration was impossible, we made it possible.
@TKELCH
@TKELCH 3 месяца назад
CyberCPU Tech-- Have You ever gotten facial hair caught up in a computer fan? lol
@Yinzzy656
@Yinzzy656 Год назад
good Video Rich I like the new editing also. thanks buddy
@YodaMan-420
@YodaMan-420 Год назад
kinda reminds me of those restaurants that serve "deconstructed" food. deconstructed pc.
@viralprimenetwork
@viralprimenetwork Год назад
Very informative video. Keep up the good work!
@CyberCPU
@CyberCPU Год назад
Thanks!
@Killerspieler0815
@Killerspieler0815 Год назад
I dont have such an "adapter" for the power supply I allways used just the cheapest paperclip + some cheapest office tape , because I used a PC-power-supply for many tings incl. car radios
@TKELCH
@TKELCH 3 месяца назад
CyberCPU Tech--- I have an OptiPlex 3040 with an i3 CPU. There has been a lot of interest in older operating systems like Windows XP. How do you install one? I do not want to use VMWare or any of those programs to make it work (if possible). Your videos are always Top Notch!! TIA!!
@cypheronepiece5659
@cypheronepiece5659 8 месяцев назад
not sure how the improvement percentage is calculated, but going from 8 fps to 50 fps is way more than 140% improvement, it is over 6 fold. If you ever update this video with the miniforums 7840hs xtx with its Oculink interface results will be even more impressive. Exposed graphics card and psu is probably not wife approved, but could be made presentable in a vertical box like the xbox. And of course any concept of practicality is non existent. A Mini PC with a more substantial integrated graphics card like the 780M can serve as a cute all-rounder PC for an elderly parent, or HTPS hidden behind the TV
@collectibles4u
@collectibles4u 6 месяцев назад
I run a GMKtech K2 which is honestly a great option for gaming but I'm thinking about adding a RTX 3060
@MochiKun27
@MochiKun27 11 месяцев назад
what i need is the link for the adapter
@nickvirgili2969
@nickvirgili2969 4 месяца назад
No box, its a pcb, well built, pretty cool, only 150 us and has thunderbolt and my gmktec box actually came with thunderbolt installed!! Only runnin an rx 580, gts 8gb ocd, the best 580. Should be awesome with the 11320h to run some nice 1080 games. Also a 500w evga power supply i had lying around.
@MichaelFreeman-c6k
@MichaelFreeman-c6k 6 месяцев назад
Your problem was not the NVMe slot being stuck on 1.0 it was either the adapter or the cable you were using or both. The adapter AND the cable you are using to send data back and forth between the PC and the video card must support PCIe x4 or else it will default to x1.
@MichaelFreeman-c6k
@MichaelFreeman-c6k 6 месяцев назад
A company called ADT Link makes a device called the R43SG that provides the 4 lanes you need To get the 4.0 working. I just bought one and I'm pairing it up with an HP elite desk 705 G4 and an 8GB MSI RX 570 OC 😁 I'm actually impressed with the frame rates you were getting on just 1X!! I wonder what The performance increase would be if you paired that same GPU up with the correct adapter And opened up the 4 lanes ?
@CyberCPU
@CyberCPU 6 месяцев назад
It might be. It was a cheap eBay adapter. Honestly, it was just a fun video to do. It would be completely impractical even if it worked correctly.
@TheSweatDivision
@TheSweatDivision 3 месяца назад
Currently building an vr airlink setup with a mini pc as the host and an rtx 30 or 40 series as the monster I'll come back to let you guys know if it works I'm thinking about making it a thing my design should work without taking apart the specific mini pc either
@crisbalgreece
@crisbalgreece Год назад
Thanks mate..We always staying tune..😉👍
@andcentral2965
@andcentral2965 Год назад
1:21 Link of the adapter?
@TheDonniemarks
@TheDonniemarks 6 месяцев назад
For a second No lie I thought it was Mick Foley On the thumbnail 😅
@leofun01
@leofun01 Год назад
09:30 - text in top of the video: Wreakfest (after Wreakfest).
@CyberCPU
@CyberCPU Год назад
Good catch. I forgot to change the template.
@Andrew-ry7iw
@Andrew-ry7iw Год назад
Those cheaper mini PCs usually have a m.2 SSD slot which is not the same as nvme
@RShorts17
@RShorts17 11 месяцев назад
imagine if mini pc in the future will have a feature of dedicated gpu attachment
@Mope333
@Mope333 8 месяцев назад
Well you can always build one but yeah, imagine that
@madsouris
@madsouris Год назад
Competitive games are doing fine on mini pc, laptop or other low powered
@DrenDor100
@DrenDor100 Год назад
"Not wife approved" - love that line, and it is so very true! Interesting video, while not 100% practical it is still interesting to know that such possibilities do exist. Also it was very interesting to see how well the external card did one only one PCI-X lane (better than I was expecting before seeing your benchmarks)! I would love to know how the card would have done with better bandwidth like the full 4x you were originally hoping for.
@nickvirgili2969
@nickvirgili2969 9 месяцев назад
I have some stuff, a couple psus, a 500w should be great, have a new rx580 gts xxx 8gb, but an n100 mini pc nuc7, might try it since i have an external x16 slot that hooks similar to yours but actually plugged into a slot, wondering if the cpu can handle it. Originally was gonna run it to my laptop but i dont feel like cutting things yet. Thats at least got a 5800hs on it so i know its good there, this is all for 1080p too. Alot of old games get new life with all this stuff, i love it.
@markandrow4010
@markandrow4010 Год назад
Thanks
@Justin_80
@Justin_80 Год назад
I'm currently using an old 3rd gen Dell laptop with a RX 6400, through an EXP GDC.
@mustafacalcuttawala4581
@mustafacalcuttawala4581 3 месяца назад
@CyberCPUTech Can you connect a "quad nvme m.2 pcie adapter" to this pcie adapter? This would be a nice possibility to add multiple ssds to the minipc and convert it into a nas.
@drawgraphicchannel
@drawgraphicchannel 3 месяца назад
I don't know why I watched this video while I have no mini pc. I only have a dead laptop.
@AndreiCretulescu84
@AndreiCretulescu84 Год назад
I'm curious, if you can troubleshoot a little and test the adapter on a desktop in order to find out if is the motherboard of the minipc or the adapter. nice video
@itsmemc7961
@itsmemc7961 6 месяцев назад
My CPU broke and if I wanted a good one I would have to replace everything except for the drive and GPU. I might do this😂
@azjeep
@azjeep Год назад
? where you able to change the 1x in the bios?
@bobbastian760
@bobbastian760 5 месяцев назад
10 fps to 68fps isn't "148%" improvement, it's a 580% the framerate
@androiduser8482
@androiduser8482 11 месяцев назад
If only there was some sort of casing this could all this be bolted to so that you can slide it under desk. oops that would be a regular desktop pc.
@LuBre
@LuBre 15 дней назад
Percent values of improvement are all screwed up? How is 74fps a "138% improvement" over 13.7fps? All the maths are completely wrong...
@cryptolitaz
@cryptolitaz Год назад
isnt easier to get a normal box, open the mini one take it all out put it in the new box and add extentions to it as a destop one? idk just wondering on my side a easy way without being messy lol without the things open on the sides etc…
@Mechenzo440
@Mechenzo440 Год назад
you saved me, best ideea ever
@CyberCPU
@CyberCPU Год назад
Glad it helped.
@Rayu25Demon
@Rayu25Demon Год назад
I'll play Microsoft office. 🤣🤣 by the way, there is a mini pc from a brand called minisforum, it has some accessories to plug external GPU on its PCI-E slot. but I don't remember how many pcie lane, the only this i can remember is the pcie dock accessories has a maximum of 3 slots GPU size
@1978plip
@1978plip Год назад
would be good to see what the fps would have been on a better motherboard, with same SSD/memory/CPU?
@p-millz
@p-millz 7 месяцев назад
I think that adapter is shite ....did you test another one ?
@itsdeonlol
@itsdeonlol Год назад
I really think it's the adapter.
@ArtisanCustoms
@ArtisanCustoms 18 дней назад
what would you recommend for a small for factor pc build for offgrid gaming. Im looking to build a mini itx with an external GPU that i can turn off and not use at all for simple tasks to keep power draw to a minimum but turn on when i want to game
@slimshady-q6l
@slimshady-q6l 4 месяца назад
Thank you
@PreludeSon
@PreludeSon 10 месяцев назад
This is quite an interesting video.
@hangemhi001
@hangemhi001 8 месяцев назад
man would like to c this work on the AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS mini pc
@divinehatred6021
@divinehatred6021 3 месяца назад
7840hs does have good enough integrated graphics already...
@DavidNationSr
@DavidNationSr Год назад
just wana say thanks for sharing
@pkmehl9626
@pkmehl9626 2 месяца назад
You're awesome 🎉❤️
@theoldcorporal
@theoldcorporal Год назад
never thought this would be possible. i just have some Qs. is it possible to completely remove the external power supply? like getting a gpu that does need external power (like the A2000/1650, which conveniently has low profile) , then just get the power draw from a converted floppy drive power cable to usb...
@TheNumberDisplayedIs
@TheNumberDisplayedIs 3 месяца назад
Can you try with an OcuLink adapter ?
@Andy_Tibbs
@Andy_Tibbs 4 месяца назад
can you drop the link for the adapter? I'm going to do this for a yt vid where im going to turn my mini pc into a gaming pc by 3d printing a custom case too hold everything
@Woodwerker
@Woodwerker 5 месяцев назад
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. IDK
@cpuuk
@cpuuk Год назад
The problem is the ebay adapter :-)
@CyberCPU
@CyberCPU Год назад
Likely.
@sweet_chills
@sweet_chills Год назад
Thanks but.. I do need to put the ssd too do you have another idea?😊
@CyberCPU
@CyberCPU Год назад
Unfortunately you need the M2 slot to run the pcie adapter. There's no other way to do it unless you have a thunderbolt interface. If you do have thunderbolt you can always use a GPU enclosure to do the same thing. It's a lot cleaner that way too because the GPU has its own enclosure.
@divinehatred6021
@divinehatred6021 3 месяца назад
yeah, buy a full size computer if you want to do real gaming, mini pcs are not exactly made for that
@leofun01
@leofun01 Год назад
08:04 - "GTA 5 ... is pretty old" ?
@IBims1Mark
@IBims1Mark Год назад
yes
@prla5400
@prla5400 11 дней назад
11 years old now
@watchlover7750
@watchlover7750 8 месяцев назад
Cool but this spoils the whole idea of having a mini PC. Using s small desktop would be way cheaper because powerful mini PCs are pretty expensive
@homelessEh
@homelessEh 3 месяца назад
i seen cyberpuke 2077 and realized its just a rehashed gta with gimmics.....so i uninstalled it and im never looking back lol
@koldbloodedentertainment5900
I would go with 3060 RTX cos it cost the some at 1660 that is just me
@modbox9560
@modbox9560 Год назад
I've been doing this using mini pcie ivy bridge 17watt tdp using an RX the HD4000 plays GTA 5 better than Iris they are weaker new gen cpu. Unless your greener energy architecture PCI x1 isn't as great stock as i3 3217u vs HD 4000 but HD 4000 still holds its ground.
@modbox9560
@modbox9560 Год назад
The i7-3770s is still playing demanding games today on all it threads not bottlenecked. Ivy bridge has saved Lot's gamers new CPU architecture money every new year they release to suck our money same as cell phones being released.. You work now and buy new one 99th gen Intel is here fear guy: here take my money!!!!!🤣🤣🤣😂
@modbox9560
@modbox9560 Год назад
I liked watching the video and thanks for sharing always been curious bout new Iris
@ladislaugabor2985
@ladislaugabor2985 8 месяцев назад
If your mini pc have 2 slots for ssd You can put ssd in one and this adaptor in second slot its gonna be fine?
@JoshuaPeck-x2r
@JoshuaPeck-x2r 6 месяцев назад
Help bought elite desk 705g4 bought rx6400 will it work NVR built first try what do I do
@mineroblcz
@mineroblcz 5 месяцев назад
You have an error its says the game is wheakfast but its shadow of the tomb rider 9:44
@ImminentFates
@ImminentFates 14 дней назад
What if it doesnt boot to windows
@markae0
@markae0 Год назад
Great video on hacking something to something else!!!!!
@Itzfaran
@Itzfaran 9 месяцев назад
Sir how we buy the dock ? In India 😅
@FSK1138
@FSK1138 Год назад
do you have a link to the adapter ?
@CyberCPU
@CyberCPU Год назад
Here's the link to the one I bought. www.ebay.com/itm/255277480611 However, I don't know if I would recommend that one because it was stuck on 1x. However, that may have been a limitation on the platform and not the adapter. I didn't test multiple adapters to find out.
@obesesummer
@obesesummer 10 месяцев назад
Would this work with a gpu that doesn't need a psu?
@RivalSMPsurvival
@RivalSMPsurvival 4 месяца назад
Hope you reply what power adapter 😂
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 7 месяцев назад
Has anyone done this with a Minisforum UM480XT ?
@jeffreybower5959
@jeffreybower5959 11 месяцев назад
i have my gtx 970 gpu connected to my asus chromebox cn62 mini pc,, "but",,, the nvidia driver i have downloaded "does NOT" detect it!!?? why!!??😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@RivalSMPsurvival
@RivalSMPsurvival 4 месяца назад
Because you’re playing on a Chromebook not a Windows computer
@catherinemorgan2741
@catherinemorgan2741 Год назад
Doesn't that NVMe SSD you took out have windows on it, so how do you get windows
@swisspeach67
@swisspeach67 Год назад
Did you watch the video?
@cpuuk
@cpuuk Год назад
SSD card in lid
@nickvirgili2969
@nickvirgili2969 4 месяца назад
Thunderbolt!!!
@francism4759
@francism4759 Месяц назад
You the best
@MonelloSavutano
@MonelloSavutano Год назад
thanks,where u get the adapter
@lazydoggo1196
@lazydoggo1196 6 месяцев назад
he said ebay
@RivalSMPsurvival
@RivalSMPsurvival 4 месяца назад
@@lazydoggo1196 what about the power adapter?
@johnanthonyalberola6252
@johnanthonyalberola6252 Год назад
U CANT EVEN LINK THE 14 DOLLAR IGPU
@khaledvany
@khaledvany Год назад
sooooooooooo coooooooooll. 👌👌👍👍💕💕
@Wanaattack
@Wanaattack Год назад
How much?
@CyberCPU
@CyberCPU Год назад
I give all the costs in the video.
@coolstick
@coolstick Год назад
Just get a mini pc with thunderbolt 3/4 and plug in a egpu
@andyb6813
@andyb6813 Год назад
Good video but I stopped watching after you couldn't work out the correct percentages....
@divinehatred6021
@divinehatred6021 3 месяца назад
those improvement % are incorrect... did you skip your maths school?
@Jstp19454
@Jstp19454 3 месяца назад
Be respectful 😢😢
@Jstp19454
@Jstp19454 3 месяца назад
You should say this to USA to have no choice but two retired loonies ss president choice and USA is supposedly supporting war crimes imperial genocide 😢😢
@bobbastian760
@bobbastian760 5 месяцев назад
If your wife has to "approve" your stuff, she'll have no respect for you. You should be in charge bubba.
@themaximusone
@themaximusone Год назад
Awesome video btw if folks are unhappy with any video part they should simply stfu and suck it.😂
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