Here are some tips for running this engine. After learning the best operation it starts and runs well. It is very well made, I'd be pleased if I had built it. www.banggood.com/marketing-St...
As a child in the early fifties I can still remember the neighbor's farm using this type of engine to run his dairy barn generator. It fascinated me then and still makes me smile. Thank you. Jim
That's how hit-and-miss are supposed to work, they're RPM based so if you put more load on them they slow down quicker and fire more often. For a long time they were THE option for shed power generation.
That is how flyball or flybar governor engines operated. If RPM's drop below a certain preset, the flyball assembly pulls back together, making a bar close the exhaust valve, causing the engine to fire.
Nighthawke70 actually most mechanical governors control either the throttle plate (gasoline engines) or fuel rail (diesel engines) if they controlled the exhaust valve that engine would be extremely hard on fuel and would burn exhaust valve seats constantly
Isaacs Random Videos they spark every time the piston reaches tdc compression stroke the difference is whether or not there’s any fuel to ignite with that spark, that engine will have a trigger reading a set timing point that will make it spark every time it passes the trigger
FWIW: I lived in Dade County, Florida from 1988 to 1995. Sometime during those years my wife and I went to a fair [?] of some kind in Homestead, Florida. I do not remember exactly what this fair was about. What I DO remember is there were old engines of various types for on display. At least one of them was a full-size hit and miss engine, and it was running. That was the first time I ever knew these engines even existed.
@@pooorman-diy1104 There is a link in the description that takes you to the website where you can buy this. They quite a few other engines and cool stuff too.
@@joewoodchuck3824 no doubt, but I wasn't really searching for it. Just one of them browsing days and thought the video looked interesting so I watched it lol.
This is neat. As kid went to the County Fair. They had these antiques, not so small. Steam raising out of the water hole. Whoosh, Pop, Whoosh, Whoosh, Whoosh along with the Mechanical sounds of the exposed Crankshaft... The old timers said they used these to power a pump for field irrigation & other tasks before rural electrification...
Reminds me of the ajax and national motors, and other brands that we use in Oklahoma on the pump jacks on the older oil wells. They're still going strong
A very neat demonstration model. Not many (if any) reached Australian shores... Most home generators I have seen and used were 4 stroke diesel and paired with 240VAC generators producing 4, 7, or 10kva, the exhaust was sent to a 200 litre (45 gallon oil drum) buried 6 feet under the ground to become an effective silencer... I am 77 and worked as a plantation manager in Papua New Guinea from 1970 to 1998 growing coconut nucifera (Pacific Island tall) to make coconut oil and Theobroms tree varieties to produce cocoa for chocolate... I would love a model to reside with me on my coffee table and run it regularly...
5:00 A scaled up version of this engine was/is commonly used in China to power a multi-function two wheel tractor and they sound like this! The engine is cooled the same way, water is poured into the top of the engine and it boils away, topped up when needed. I lived in China for about 10 years with my first trip in the early 1990's and these two wheeled tractors connected to another two wheeled frame were everywhere putt putting along hauling everything.
TY for posting . I've allvvays been curious about H&M engines & have read they vvere much more common from the turn of the century until the 1940's & used to povver a lot of appliances out in areas that didnt have electricity & vvere a vital & common part of everyday life . Over the last century vve've made so many technological leaps every decade that systems like this get forgotten about unfortunately. That this engine is air cooled but has an area to add vvater to to cool it during longer runs is a great idea, I vvish all 4 stroke engines vvere capable of this . TY again for the demo & still suprised @ hovv lovv the rpm's could go & still keep vvorking.
Lots of small oil wells in this area when I was younger, most of the pump jacks ran on hit and miss engines running on drip gas. Those things ran at ridiculously low rpm.
My grandfather loved these engines, the full size version. some were cooled with a water container and had a large flywheel attached to some sort of clothes washer..... of course the dryer was a clothesline and the sun
@@theoztreecrasher2647 Unfortunately you had to go outdoors and feel the clothes to see if they were dry. The old "crank" phones didn't have blue tooth.
It's just too cool if I won it would definitely be taking it to Flite Fest and cherishing it forever I'm going to be working with Ministeam selling engines like this at Flite Fest
@@EduSued because ALL moving parts require lubrication.. Take a look at a full size open crank engine- an amanco for example, they use a drip oil feeder to prevent siezure.
I recommend standard gas + oil mixture, like the one you use for chainsaws with just a lil bit more oil in the mixture, like instead of 50:1 something like 30:1. Using lighter fuel fools the spark plug and creates a lot of build up in the piston + cylinder.
I love the sound of a nice hit and miss engine. While I appreciate the model size of this one, it's small size means it lacks all the lovely pops, clicks, whooshes and smell of a real one.
I've seen larger engines like this running, never knew they were called "hit and miss", but it kind of makes sense. Interesting to see how the governor slides a catch across to hold the value open until it slows down enough to release and cause it to fire again.
That specific mechanism is hit & miss... many similar engines have a more modern governing mechanism I've seen them both ways it will sound smoother with a modern govenor. So, hard to say if what you saw was hit&miss... unless you remember the distinctive hitting and missing sound which you can hear when it hits, then looses RPM for a bit then hits again. Here in the US at least around here (NC) we have farm days etc.. where people bring their old engines, tractors etc.. and run them, there's a big stationary10hp diesel one lunger that runs a cotton gin also shakes the ground a bit when it fires.
@@Wingnut353 The engines I've seen at shows etc. run like this one, were they only fire as required....so I'd say they were hit and miss. Obviously modern engines use governors to limit fuel on each and every power stroke to maintain a set rpm.
This is an absolutely amazing engine! I am a big fan of all engines, big or small, and I have a couple 2 stroke weedwackers I am fixing up that I found in my neighbors' trash. I have always wanted a desktop size internal combustion engine model that is fully functional. And this engine for $215.99, I would say that is very well priced, because usually an engine like that would be a whole lot more expensive! As soon as I get a job and have enough money, I am DEFINITELY gonna buy one of these. This engine is like a work of art, it is amazing!
You could sell a few small engines and buy one. I do the same thing. Buy and fix old lawn equipment then resell it. I use the money to buy RC Planes, boats, cars. I had a scale steam engine at age 13. I traded it for all my hotwheels stuff.
@@scottfirman Yes! I was thinking of starting a craigslist business where I fix lawn equipment. It seems like lots of people just throw out their gas powered lawn tools that won't start, when the problem is just that the engine needs a simple carburetor adjustment. That's all my weedwackers needed to fix the issue my neighbors stated with both, which was that they wouldn't start, or would bog down when throttled. But, I don't really want to sell engines, because I fall in love with my engines, and once that happens, I just can't get rid of them. I think when I am older, I am gonna have a huge collection of engines, because I will have gotten soo many and just won't be able to get rid of them without shedding a tear. Also, I think that's really cool that you had a scale steam engine at age 13! I'm 16, and I have always wanted a scale internal combustion engine, but other kids my age want iphones, and xboxes and stuff like that. I heard a saying that "kids need more toolbox, and less xbox" and I totally agree with that. Spring has come, and everyday I come home from school, and go straight to the garage, where i play with my weedwackers, starting them and revving them just to hear the sound of them, and I seriously can't wait until the grass starts growing so that I can start the mowing season of 2019. Now, back to the thing about selling engines, even though I quickly become attached to my engines, I think I would like to try and find some engines, maybe at the scrap yard, or at curb sides, wherever i can find them, fix them up, and then sell them. That would be alot of fun, and it would help me save up for this amazing desktop sized scale model hit & miss engine. Thank you for the idea! Have a nice day!
Awesome. It looks incredible. Years ago a customer of ours at a mom and pop Auto Parts and Machine shop in PHX brought in a Sterling engine about the size of this. He set it on the counter and fired it up, and all the guys ran over to see it. It's great to see this stuff. Thanks for sharing!!! Would this power a 12 to 15V alternator? Or 12 V generator?
60 rpm? 1 minute = 60 seconds; therefore 1 rotation per second. Which seems slow, compare to what I see. Are you sure that the gauge is correct? BTW Thats an awesome model! I love that video!
It uses batteries... what kind of moron would use batteries to power a hit and miss engine to turn a generator to charge their fucking cell phone? Plug it into a wall or get a power bank ffs
nottacop As it produces more energy than it takes from the cells, you could easily rig an alternator and charge both the cells for the spark and a cellphone.
@@twizz420 I rarely had access to electrical outlets at college, my first job was out in marshland, and a small engine would have been brilliant for that. Also, when you need a phone charger in class or at work it would be pretty funny. You could have it as a phone charger, or a pencil sharpener. And yes, I do have a power bank, in fact I have multiple power banks.If I go out on my bike to a big meet up, or event I will sometimes use my helmet camera, which can drain 3 power banks, just to recharge once. So this would be fantastic for that.
We have an old engine show every year in the small town 30 miles from us. Most of the people that live there work in our town. You can buy and restore hit and miss engines or buy them from people getting out of it. They have built a mock town complete with railroad and everything there. Call it the Henry Ford Museum of the North. I wouldnt buy that banggood modern version. The original is more fun. We have many farmers around that used them so the show usually gets alot of them. My favorite are the steam tractors. Our family owned one years ago to farm for potatoes.
@@NCF8710 IMHO a battery should not leak when there is still a charge. in my view, it is a product failure and that it happens so frequently that the brand is known widely to have this continual failure.
@@dave-in-nj9393 An alkaline battery should not leak at all. An insidious property of these batteries is that they will leak while still providing power. This is evident when used in TV remote controls. By the time you realize that the batteries are getting weak (reduced range), they have already started to leak and cause damage. It is prudent to remove the batteries from a device when you are through using it. This, however is not practical when the batteries are used in standby devices such as remote controls, thermometers. digital multimeters, etc. Also, Duracell is not the only culprit. I have had Eveready Energizers and house brand alkaline batteries leak too. I will not use alkaline batteries in any device worth more than the batteries themselves. I use rechargeable NiMH batteries (Eneloop) or Eveready Ultimate Lithium batteries in valuable devices. I also use lithium ion batteries in devices that can handle their higher voltage such as high power LED flashlights. I have not had any of these batteries leak and cause damage.
*myfordboy* Are you aware of the Carter designed and patented Blackstone oil engine of the early 1900's? This engine looks very similar, although those were hot bulb ignition type engines, which are what I am most interested in. Please let me know or make a video if these type of engines will run on pure oils or mixtures of diesel or white gas type fuels or your guesses if it will.
Hit & Miss engines with spark ignition need a volatile fuel (low boiling point, easily vaporised at room temperature) to run, just like modern petrol engines. However, petrol H&M engines don't have a particularly high compression ratio, so don't need high quality (high octane-rated) fuels. Provided the fuel is sufficiently volatile, the engine isn't all that fussy. Hence why cheap and nasty Coleman fuel (aka white gas) can be used, which has an octane rating between 30 and 50. But you could also run a petrol H&M engine on alcohols (methanol, ethanol, isopropanol), lightweight aromatics (benzene, toluene, xylenes), turpentine, citronella or lemon oil, paint thinners, white spirit, Zippo lighter fuel, barbecue lighting fluid, and probably many others I can't think of right now. Hot bulb engines (either of the H&M variety or otherwise) are even less fussy about their fuel, since the function of the hot bulb is to vaporise and ignite the heavy fuel oils they are typically run on. So a hot bulb engine can use regular diesel fuel, biodiesel, kerosene, jet fuel, vegetable oils, engine oils - basically any combustible liquid with a viscosity low enough to flow through the fuel lines and fuel injectors. Even old engine oils can be used as fuel, provided they are first filtered to remove any suspended solids, and ideally diluted with a lighter weight fuel (like kerosene, white gas or white spirit) to reduce the viscosity and allow them to flow - and to stop them freezing in cold climates. This was the great versatility of hot-bulb engines - the ability to use whatever fuel you happen to have available.
@@lloydevans2900 Yes, since that comment I have looked into them extensively. The Carter designed Blackstone Oil engine was used in oil fields and can burn filtered sweet crude straight out of the ground, without the addition of other adulterants or fuel types. To me this is simply amazing! So I have designed and am building a conversion that allows a modern 5 hp small gas engine to operate with a hot bulb ignition system. Some have tried with limited success, however my design is unique as well as potentially superior. Once I complete testing I will upload a video about it. Thank you for your informative and interesting comment-you yourself are unique and one of a kind.
That Blackstone oil engine sounds similar (in principle at least) to the gigantic diesel-cycle engines used in the largest oil tankers and container ships. The fuel they use is commonly known as bunker fuel, which is incredibly crude shit. It's basically what comes out of the bottom of a distillation stack at an oil refinery, after the more volatile and useful components have been distilled out. Bunker fuel is almost solid at room temperature, and needs to be heated to at least 70 degrees C to make it flow. Only the largest engines can use it, since fuel injectors below a certain size simply can't handle fuel which is so heavy and viscous. Of course these engines are not hot bulb engines since they run on a true diesel cycle, but the fuel injectors are heated to help the fuel vaporize and burn inside the engine. In fact, ships of this sort often start up their engines on natural gas while in port and run on a lighter weight fuel until they pass into international waters. This is mainly to get around emissions regulations, but also helps the main engines warm up to the point where they can switch over to using bunker fuel. Large ships usually have a supply of conventional diesel on board anyway for running smaller diesel engines for auxiliary power generation, and for powering the air compressors necessary for starting up the main engines.
