Rupert Spira - 'The Seamless Intimacy Of Experience' - Interview by Renate McNay 

Absolutely!

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Flat Earth Forex wouldn't have to after that haha

Thats an experience which can lead to living from that space and becoming a free of discrimination but if as is usually case the ego self takes ownership of the experience then it just creates the most powerful manifestation of ego, the special ego that can see what the rest of us can't etc. David Icke is pointing to the obvious, fact that the dis -ease of the human mind manifests as people becoming addicted to wealth and power. It is extremely destructive to the whole planet and all sentient beings but he does it in a way which is born from the same womb of them and us. He is addicted to fame

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Sure, good trip.

What resists persists

Well said!

Yes, and the self is there before the looking.

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In my opinion you are already a step further as Rupert.

They are adding stuff to that what you already are.

That's kinda right, but try to explain that what you are without any opinion or words. Not necessary, but if you sit there and somebody is asking, what do you say? Nothing? Could be an option, but where to begin? Everybody have their own road to go.

You confuse experiencing with interpretation of experiencing. You say that first we need language/concepts to experience. Does a baby need concepts to have sensations, sights, hearing, etcetera? Of course not. The baby cannot name and distinguish different experiences, but that is the whole point. There is no difference until we invent it with thought, which of course is always only conceptual. "In the absence of division where is the experience and where is the experiencer?" Precisely. Experience and the experiencer are the same. There is only the knowing of experiencing, which knows itself by being itself because what it is, is simply 'knowing'. Why would 'knowing' be division? Only when we believe that concepts have inherent reality division arises. But then it wouldn't be knowing anymore would it? Then 'knowing' is degraded to 'believing'. You are right that we are completely conditioned by society, but the whole point is to transcend that conditioned ego consciousness. Whether that can really be done is up to ourselves to find out. Rupert is helping people with that. He might get paid for it, but why is that so strange? You provide a service and you get paid.

Recognition is naming. First, the assumption that there is a “you” and a “we” and then of course, there appears to be knowing. All of it is bogus. “You” believe there is a “you” and “you” believe you “know”. Ego consciousness is just silly. Empty words and empty phrases. It’s all concepts and ideas. By the way, I’m not confused in anyway whatsoever. The you that you think you are is busy projecting. This you is rooted in thought, thus, knowledge provides the experience and experience solidifies the knowledge. This is exactly what the mechanism seeks, continuity. This you that you think you are is lost in thoughts, ideas, concepts and trapped in what some call the intellect. Good luck. The only tool you have there is thought, thought is trying to figure it out through the use of thought and thus it is the dog chasing its tail. Again and for the last time. Good luck. Any reply will not be read or acknowledged.

Ferdinand Alexander Even if what you say is true. Even if this incredible sense of peace and deep appreciation and love for everything in existence during the meditative "state" are just results of thought/an overactive imagination of the mind. Even then, i would go for it. Illusion or not. Any joyful experience i can think of pales into insignificance compared to this. I can only imagine that every single soul would chase this for the rest of their lives after a small taste of it. But true peace and love aren't the only "things" there. Another element are insights. You see crystal clear how things are working. Not as belief in thought, but by simple knowing. But i won't trouble you any longer with these terrible outrageous "ideas" my friend.

He's like a virgin who says, sex is overrated because he was raised by nuns. Some people get scared and angry about what they can't understand. Then after screaming their outrage due to hurt pride, they stomp out of the room and refuse to speak to the meanies who have the gall to think that they might have a better understanding. Oh well.

Sydebern direct seeing into ones true nature?

+manny mo Ultimately it's "God", there's no room for anything else. But it's too scary to be "God", to come to terms with being "God" takes a long time to get used to (for most people). I put "God" in quotes because it's really just another human concept for this ultimate thing that everything is. Dao, Advaita, Ayin, the name doesn't matter, because the reported features (in the mystical cores of all religions) are the same in every case: non-dual presence. "God" is a somewhat primitive way of putting it, because it's easy to misunderstand as referring to just another entity (albeit very powerful) among other entities. It's so outside our ken that we can't really give it a name, because there's nothing to compare it to (names require distinguishing one thing from another - how do you distinguish the very being of all there is?). And yet it's the most intimate thing there is. Another way of saying this: the being of things (of the universe) and our own being are one and the same being. That which is at the very core of the universe, its most intimate existence, is our own most intimate existence. The distinction between "me" (the moist robot) and "environment" is just a convenience to describe one fleeting set of causal conditions in the whole, unified system. It's all environment. _And_ it's all me. The moist robot with its skin bag and limited conditions for life, has to be (or rather, can be - or may not be) preserved, but this that we most intimately are needs no preservation attempts. A simple way of looking at it is that being registers being; anything that exists has impact on other things. That impact, that rubbing up against each other, is the very substance of things. But it's all fundamentally impersonal and universal. There's just a mistaken thought that thinks it isn't; but that thought is _itself_ as impersonal and universal as a comet's track across the sky.

Are you talking physical being ? or other sort of being,that they may or may not exist or ever existed .

manny mo There can be only one being, logically there's no room for anything else (as grandfather Parmenides told us). From a certain point of view (when you measure it and compare aspects of it with other aspects - comparing and contrasting waves in the ocean, as it were) it's what we call "physical". The physical is just the same old being, understood from a particular point of view (number, measure, difference, sameness). But even though we can understand it quite clearly in those terms (and our investigation proceeds very well), we haven't really exhausted it or plumbed its depths; nor have we diminished its majesty by understanding it in physical terms. (And here "our investigation" is just more waves, in the ocean, more pretty patterns of being.) What I mean is, it doesn't make reality small to call it "physical" or to say it's "causal" or "mechanistic" - any more than it would magnify reality to call it "mind" or "consciousness" or "free". All the words are toys, the living-through of it is the thing!

gurugeorge You know you are talking nonsense . you know you don't have a clue what your re really saying .

manny mo On the contrary, I seem to myself to be trying to communicate something that I think is meaningful and important (in context). If I've failed, well, _c'est la vie_.

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No neocortex is not good also, then your mind goes nuts. :D

You might be the only one seeing it that way

Juan L I doubt it.

I was thinking the same thing.

I thought it 2. lol my mind was gone within 5 minutes 😅

Huh, how come you get that feeling? I'm so interested in why you would even feel that way, unless you just have the spirit of oppression, very interesting