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Russ Westbrook must prove he isn't at fault for not winning a ring - Acho I NBA I SPEAK FOR YOURSELF 

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Russell Westbrook had his introductory press conference with the Los Angeles Lakers yesterday. L.A. is his fourth team in four years since winning the MVP in 2017. Russ was asked if he had anything left to prove and said quote:' I don't. I've been blessed and thankful to be in this league for so long..I've been able to impact people all across the world with this platform that's been given to me and I'll continue, obviously to win a championship..ultimate goal is to make sure we use what we have to impact those around you.' Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho react to his statement and discuss whether they agree with his current mindset or not.
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Russ Westbrook must prove he isn't at fault for not winning a ring - Acho I NBA I SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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@SpeakOnFS1
@SpeakOnFS1 2 года назад
Listen to Flippin Bats: foxs.pt/flippinbats
@SkunkLifeMedia
@SkunkLifeMedia 2 года назад
The chemistry these dudes have is just unreal and unmatched. I be clickin on videos for topics I don't even care about just cuz i like how they vibe during conversations
@tehutibrim594
@tehutibrim594 2 года назад
👌
@billl.2441
@billl.2441 2 года назад
Best show right now. Always great arguments from different valid angles without being outrageous.
@warriorjennings5115
@warriorjennings5115 2 года назад
FACTS!!!!
@shaynelee487
@shaynelee487 2 года назад
Cell and Acho are in a club by themselves as far as sports interlocutors. This is next level ish!!! No one on ESPN can touch em.
@christopherkeyz8780
@christopherkeyz8780 2 года назад
That's right everyone. Interlocutors.
@Bsfnelz20
@Bsfnelz20 2 года назад
True perfect chemistry they feed off each other ESPN and STEPHEN A. SMITH stopped both of these VALUABLE ANCHORS FROM REACHING THEIR FULL POTENTIAL THAT'S WHY THEY BOTH LEFT TO FOX SPORT 1
@mrchoice5253
@mrchoice5253 2 года назад
realtalk
@dieselx506
@dieselx506 2 года назад
Not even in FS1 to be honest, we live Undisputed cause of Unc but that's mostly entertainment but this one? This one is top-notch, great debates, rebuttals, entertaining, as far as pure debate show this is it, this is it
@deewhy1073
@deewhy1073 2 года назад
I disagree with that statement but they do well from time to time 😂💯
@morenofeo2699
@morenofeo2699 2 года назад
This show underrated , Acho is so articulate with his arguments 🔥
@-__Maccc__-
@-__Maccc__- 2 года назад
This might be the funniest 20 seconds they ever opened up with. “You can definitely spell the West without Westbrook.” 😂you don’t need a snappy opener, bro just say what’s up.
@StillTre_
@StillTre_ 2 года назад
I don't understand how KD joining a 73-9 team and winning chip, an early first round exit with Pandemic P as his running mate, or the Russ/Harden Rockets losing to the eventual NBA champs validates that you cannot win with Russ and it's always been his fault. That's crazy.
@smdideleted6327
@smdideleted6327 2 года назад
That’s what I be saying ,
@bigcliff_9898
@bigcliff_9898 2 года назад
💯
@alanperez7657
@alanperez7657 2 года назад
He dont have it, he clanks under pressure and does to much.
@wilddog371
@wilddog371 2 года назад
Because he’s always thought of himself as more than what he is. Paul George is a good player when Russ played with him. He ran KD out of OKC with his stubbornness and not willing to take a backseat. I don’t agree with what KD did going to GS but Westbrook played a major role in running him outta town. He’s shown time and time again that his ceiling is the regular season and he played terrible in the playoffs dude to his low IQ plays and bad decision making in crunch time. He’s gotta prove he can play with Lebron now an player who controls the offense more just like him u like KD who doesn’t need the ball to be effective. If he’s the reason they don’t perform up to par next season then he’ll have to take a good look at himself in the mirror.
@StillTre_
@StillTre_ 2 года назад
@@wilddog371 They were up 3-1 against that Warriors team. They didn't lose solely because of Russ. Not to mention all the years the team was injured in the post season.
@THEFIRESERIES
@THEFIRESERIES 2 года назад
Best chemistry in sports reporting.
@Kellastico
@Kellastico 2 года назад
“Everywhere you go there you are” - Marcellus Wiley WHAT. A. QUOTE!
@sketchybehavi0r
@sketchybehavi0r 2 года назад
I'll give you that, but it's an old saying.
@billyclint2232
@billyclint2232 2 года назад
This segment was heavy to me and I loved every second makes you think for sure.
@joshkabler8074
@joshkabler8074 2 года назад
Why is KDs success from joining a 2 time mvp, championship, 73 win team and indictment on Westbrook? That argument makes no sense. I could say KD could never win without Curry, Klay and Draymond. They won without him but he hasn't done it without them.
@blairbutler6507
@blairbutler6507 2 года назад
And he was the best on that team 🤷🏿‍♂️
@stretch4810
@stretch4810 2 года назад
@@blairbutler6507 which makes it even worse, he way to good for that
@joshkabler8074
@joshkabler8074 2 года назад
@@blairbutler6507 debatable. Curry deferred but not sure KDs better. Curry did it without him and KD need him and his record breaking team to win
@seanmullin1692
@seanmullin1692 2 года назад
@@joshkabler8074 debatable? Debate the finals mvps then fool
@seanmullin1692
@seanmullin1692 2 года назад
@@joshkabler8074 not the best on the team but won the finals MVP. Steph is great but kd took over that team that’s just facts
@tracyparker7897
@tracyparker7897 2 года назад
These two Men go places no one else goes daily. I enjoy it to the fullest. You are appreciated.
@ceezb5629
@ceezb5629 2 года назад
Kobe absolutely loved Russ and his play style. How can you not like Russ on the Lakeshow. Kobe approves. Lesss GO!
@aaron8445
@aaron8445 2 года назад
Russ wont win a ring b4 hardrn ill leave it at tht
@johndoe-fe4ty
@johndoe-fe4ty 2 года назад
I love how they don't always just contradict each other but rather know when to build upon the argument further
@morenofeo2699
@morenofeo2699 2 года назад
Yes ❗️
@TheDundeal
@TheDundeal 2 года назад
"Everywhere you go, there you are" - Suga Free🔥🐐
@Cheif_Espada
@Cheif_Espada 2 года назад
These two are the definition of ANSLYSTS, not shock jock click baiters, man, they really bring intellect into their discussions
@sensaivers
@sensaivers 2 года назад
These guys are f_ng awesome at their jobs. Wow.
@sketchybehavi0r
@sketchybehavi0r 2 года назад
BEST SPORTS DEBATE SHOW ON TV! HANDS DOWN! Salient points & little to no interruptions.
@ChadAtkinson
@ChadAtkinson 2 года назад
Westbrook, by his own admission, does have something to prove That’s why he came to LA He wants a championship and he knows he needs to feel validated as a superstar
@dmun5222
@dmun5222 2 года назад
Man come on man who doenst need to prove anything to nobody never says i ain’t got nothing to prove. Only those who that still have something prove say this kind of bs
@shwaynecox1602
@shwaynecox1602 2 года назад
@@dmun5222 so why is he in la for to enjoy the sunshine.
@dakotaallen25412
@dakotaallen25412 2 года назад
Y’all forget the years either Westbrook or Durant was hurt in the playoffs
@jeremyhands2713
@jeremyhands2713 2 года назад
Great point they really only had like 4 good playoff runs.
@tyroneglover7217
@tyroneglover7217 2 года назад
Lakers Nation- these guys give us their all. We won even if we loose. Everything left on the court , im loving our chances .
@mikeconley6331
@mikeconley6331 2 года назад
BeSt debate show HANDS DOWN
@jdkingsley6543
@jdkingsley6543 2 года назад
Ancho coming for Shannon neck with the suits lol seesh my dude.
@JazzyJeffRealTalk
@JazzyJeffRealTalk 2 года назад
Both great takes, i agreed with parts from both of them
@billl.2441
@billl.2441 2 года назад
"Your father would be ashame", Cell funny AF!
@briangosvener651
@briangosvener651 2 года назад
These guys have taken over sports talk shows. Them and undisputed is good content
@haroldbottom3474
@haroldbottom3474 2 года назад
After Wiley prefaced the conversation by saying "we hung out in Vegas"... You know that the conversation was going in favor of Acho.
@themadhatterxxx
@themadhatterxxx 2 года назад
They're forgetting that he had Durant AND Harden in OKC from 2009-2012 seasons.
@GregoryFergusson
@GregoryFergusson 2 года назад
Doesn’t count for a bench player Harden in his early years
@youngslyy4516
@youngslyy4516 2 года назад
They were kids. and besides, Kobe was still in his prime 😎
@marcusrichardson1460
@marcusrichardson1460 2 года назад
These two are so great. Also you can be great and still have something to prove .
@mannycruz2490
@mannycruz2490 2 года назад
KD wasn’t considered the best player in the world when he was in OKC. Harden wasn’t considered one of the best shooting guards when he was in OKC. I don’t consider that team a super team because they were not all fully developed into the players they are today. Second, Durant’s rings came with the best shooter of all time: Curry and an allstar shooter in Klay with a great PF in Green. Durant hasn’t been able to lead a team in the Finals. So neither KD, Westbrook nor Harden has been able to do that.
@DariusClarkWallace
@DariusClarkWallace 2 года назад
KD was the MVP, Russ was All-NBA, Harden was 6moty, Ibaka was runner-up in DPOY and was block leader, and Sefolosha from 2011-2013 was one of the top 5 best 3 and D players in the league. Yes tf they were a super team.
@Bowman__
@Bowman__ 2 года назад
This is really a bad take cause harden averaged 25.9 that next year after he left OKC. kd was was already developed at the 2016 finals
@gabrielalele8603
@gabrielalele8603 2 года назад
Facts💯
@kingcarterslums4400
@kingcarterslums4400 2 года назад
@@DariusClarkWallace no they weren’t OKC & GSW were the only teams with organic talent so neither teams were super teams. GSW didn’t become a super team till KD made his decision other than that you can’t blame OKC & GSW for actually developing their talent. Y’all expected young OKC to beat the Miami Heat big 3 in the finals when the Heat were coming off of the 2011 meltdown? If OKC big 3 win a ring in 2012 they would’ve blown up the Miami big 3 & Bron’s legacy would be looking a lot different. Things happen for a reason.
@blessed6797
@blessed6797 2 года назад
This is next level. You two guys are deep and most interesting in the sports biz. Respect!
@LivingOutVariousExperiences
@LivingOutVariousExperiences 2 года назад
Acho Pat Mcafee Got More Tackles than you? He said it not me
@MrKGreggs
@MrKGreggs 2 года назад
Wait did I just actually see a good debate on a sports show?
@TV-ob1if
@TV-ob1if 2 года назад
This is what happens when non basketball players comment on hoops. Somebody needs to explain to them that basketball is a team sport. “Chips” don’t grow on trees.
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 2 года назад
Indeed. I was the Superstar on my Team in my Junior and Senior Year. I did everything I could to win. You need a Team, although Russ @ times has hurt his Team. It be like that sometimes, but he was never the favorite to win.
@coreyhooksup1
@coreyhooksup1 2 года назад
He’s the most athletic point guard this game has seen
@mohammedakhundzadah6856
@mohammedakhundzadah6856 2 года назад
I dont like achos argument. Your taking his time with K.D out of context. 1st . K.D isn't the same K.D he was in his time with OKC. 2nd. There were 2 of the great super teams of that era in Miami and Golden state. Also what about Hardens legacy for not winning with Russ or Paul who just made it to an NBA finals with devin booker. Does tht mean devin booker is better than Harden?
@Jayoplantern
@Jayoplantern 2 года назад
Russ took more shots than KD in OCK it was his fault.
@ryanandrue792
@ryanandrue792 2 года назад
Facts bro
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M 2 года назад
KD in OKC was a bit different but they lost because both KD and Westbrook choked. I do have to remind people that before choking their lead they were looking like the best duo in a long time. That 2014 OKC was amazing and that was literally the beginning of Westbrook's peak. Had they stayed together they could have become even better but i think KD was frustrated with the amount of shots Westbrook took in close games and that Westbrook controlled the pace.
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M 2 года назад
@@Jayoplantern i agree he was more at fault but both of them played below standard when they lost to Golden State.
@Johenz
@Johenz 2 года назад
@@Christopher._M in 2011 Westbrook and harden played bad, Westbrook had one good game minus that one good game he shot 38% in 4 games
@jesusisourpassoverlamb2145
@jesusisourpassoverlamb2145 2 года назад
“Don’t do that,start over” 😭 that was nice
@klwklw2583
@klwklw2583 2 года назад
Wiley dropped that “kniwledge!”
@DariusClarkWallace
@DariusClarkWallace 2 года назад
Swap out KD for ANY other top 15 player and the Warriors would still probably win the chip. KD hasn't proved he can be the driving force behind a championship team.
@DariusClarkWallace
@DariusClarkWallace 2 года назад
@Jose Ramirez it might have something to do with him playing with a recent MVP in Harden and Kyrie who is the greatest 1 on 1 player under 6'4" ever 🤣. If you trade Malone for Pippen, Reggie Miller, or any other 1-3 man the Jazz would've been terrible lol what are you talking about. Right now if the Nets traded KD for Giannis, Embiid, AD, Jokic, Lebron, PG13, Tatum, Gobert, or Ayton then they'd STILL have top 3 odds in the division. You can't say that about the Bucks without Giannis. You can't say that about the Lakers without Lebron. You can't say that about the Cavs without Lebron.
@johnapple7662
@johnapple7662 2 года назад
If anything KD has proved he can’t win being the driving force
@otstillinhere
@otstillinhere 2 года назад
This show is 🔥🔥
@bluchap43
@bluchap43 2 года назад
I guess it's safe to say KD chip doesn't have an asterisk.
@pauljulian3937
@pauljulian3937 2 года назад
😅😂🤣 cupcake basically got two free
@rickdynes
@rickdynes 2 года назад
Quietly this video is a Classic
@jameslanier8218
@jameslanier8218 2 года назад
Wiley and Acho put it all out there
@romeoossogaming6455
@romeoossogaming6455 2 года назад
They both make convincing points whether you agree or not.. my point of view is that Russ played a tough team in Miami and lost while he wasn’t the best player on his team even. He lost to a very good Golden State and he lost by himself on the Thunder to an extent. He lost with Harden on a team I’d argue was doomed from the start. The only time I’d say he’s at fault for the results in a series was playing with PG who I don’t trust as a costar. Russ is one of the few all time great players that hasn’t won’t a ring and I get it. His best chance was as a young player on a great OKC team and he ran into LeBron James in his prime
@joyboy1720
@joyboy1720 2 года назад
he didn't just lose to Golden State, they blew a 3-1 lead and he didn't play well in those final games. You have to add that one. Once they were up 3-1 they should have won
@romeoossogaming6455
@romeoossogaming6455 2 года назад
@@joyboy1720 You’re correct. My ultimate rebuttal is that I always said Russ could be the second best player on a championship team. He’s not LeBron level but he is Kyrie level maybe lower in some cases.
@youraverage90sguys7
@youraverage90sguys7 2 года назад
@@joyboy1720 okay but ocnsidering the expectations of kds greatness, he performed an even worse all time choke job in those series.
@joyboy1720
@joyboy1720 2 года назад
@@youraverage90sguys7 yes thags true. But also has averaged 30 ppg in the finals multiple times and has shown the he have great performances in big games in the playoffs. So yes he did have bad that series but he's also redeemed himself since then. He's shown us that that series was an anomaly for him. Russ on the other hand has not had big performances in the playoffs since then.
@bitnissan
@bitnissan 2 года назад
@@joyboy1720 His crunch time decision making hamstrung them...can't do anything for 22 seconds? Imma just lob it over to Durant surely he can make something happen and 1.5 seconds. He is irratic and now he is a better play maker...but he wanted to be the man when he shouldn't have done so. He's an all time great no doubt but being the man isn't always being greater.
@ceezb5629
@ceezb5629 2 года назад
Marcellus - great Phillip Rivers reference.
@riverofcustard5027
@riverofcustard5027 2 года назад
People are acting like Westbrook had a team as talented as Golden State like KD did. He hasn't been on a true championship team since his early OKC days
@kevmersa6578
@kevmersa6578 2 года назад
He diff had a team talented enough to make it out the 1st round.
@hamunivadmin2750
@hamunivadmin2750 2 года назад
Lol foh okc was just as talented as gsw it was a reason they was up 3-1 in 2016..durant didnt play good either and wetbrook was a turnover machine
@lonhia
@lonhia 2 года назад
Marcellus says why are people judging him when its a team game? And then turns around and destroys Baker Mayfield lol
@shanerobinson925
@shanerobinson925 2 года назад
QB has a lot more control over a W or L though let’s be real
@reuben7233
@reuben7233 2 года назад
Love that their arguments usually ends up as a semantics debate lol
@deepatterson1835
@deepatterson1835 2 года назад
"This is the true "UNDISPUTED" show.
@TheWizeGod74
@TheWizeGod74 2 года назад
Low key tho
@yvonneshelton2505
@yvonneshelton2505 2 года назад
It is undisputed more analytical
@intothefrayyo
@intothefrayyo 2 года назад
Boy if you don't get yo ..
@nike9009
@nike9009 2 года назад
Great block of debate
@5abivt
@5abivt 2 года назад
I saw one breakdown of okc losing the series to Golden state and dam The fingers get pointed at russ. He started to try and turn things around himself and it all went downhill. He definitely has something to prove that’s why he’s in L he’s just smart to not put the pressure on through the media
@marcuslquevedo
@marcuslquevedo 2 года назад
Wiley said…Don’t do that. Start over. 😆
@leroyrodgers6089
@leroyrodgers6089 2 года назад
The truth is, when Russ puts his head down at night he's probably exhausted from his children, his training etc. But his pillows and bedsheets are so comfortable he puts a grin on his face and goes quickly to sleep.
@jebadaiah1228
@jebadaiah1228 2 года назад
Good or bad, leaders are always responsible
@justicefryer2026
@justicefryer2026 2 года назад
All those MVPs were on the best teams in the league Brodie got that MVP even tho his team was a teetering for a playoff spot. He took that MVP.
@vivekrawat2445
@vivekrawat2445 2 года назад
From Kawhi Leonard.
@hamunivadmin2750
@hamunivadmin2750 2 года назад
He got the MVP strictly because ppl didnt see anybody avg a triple double since big 0 and everybody was impressed until we seen it dont equate to wins and first rounf exits not even going 6 and 7 games on top of westbrook IQ and leading the league in turnovers playing too wild
@dretanksley1357
@dretanksley1357 2 года назад
Hold up didn’t harden play with Chris Paul no finals appearance didn’t Paul George play with kawhi no finals appearance Durant played with Westbrook and harden gets to the finals and loses but all the blame falls on Russ that’s sad
@mannymeeee2620
@mannymeeee2620 2 года назад
Already bailing lebum out if it goes wrong. Russ is just gonna be the next scapegoat
@bartididthat
@bartididthat 2 года назад
I mean.... Durant didn’t get one unless he went to a 73-9 team. He has a lot to prove as well. Definitely hurt that mans legacy
@Lifewithkwame1
@Lifewithkwame1 2 года назад
Lebron has never won a chip without a super team, MJ also can stop the KD hate its so stupid 🤦🏽‍♂️
@sportfanatic5339
@sportfanatic5339 2 года назад
Wiley is wrong and history shows he’s lying. If it wasn’t about rings why is Melo joining Lebron? Why did Blake join Brooklyn. Take a look at Gary Peyton, Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Steve Nash, etc.. They all went ring chasing. Why? Because they want the respect of their peers.
@Hail2daChief
@Hail2daChief 2 года назад
none of those people are russell westbrook...
@sportfanatic5339
@sportfanatic5339 2 года назад
@@Hail2daChief parallelization
@romeoossogaming6455
@romeoossogaming6455 2 года назад
Also, drawing parallels to football and basketball doesn’t work because in the NBA the stars are on the floor most if not the whole game sometimes and there’s only 9 other guys on the court. In football you’re on the field about half the game with 21 other guys. In football only the quarterback has the ball ultra consistently. In basketball every Star has the ball in their hands most of the game. Basketball players are held to the ring standard because they’re heavily in control of the outcome more than any position in football other than quarterback. In some cases more so than a quarterback like LeBron or.. RUSS where they have the ball the whole game.
@jtv3554
@jtv3554 2 года назад
You can't really say Russ is the problem necessarily because Harden, PG13, and beal haven't won anything without Russ either. Only KD (and ibaka I guess) is the only star that has won anything without Russ
@GregoryFergusson
@GregoryFergusson 2 года назад
Absolutely nobody is using Beal in this conversation but PG was 3rd in mvp voting that year and still got bounced in the 1st round. The issue isn’t winning only, it’s also underachieving.
@wblake22
@wblake22 2 года назад
Westbrook could’ve been the guy to leave okc for golden state to win a championship. That falls back on kd to. Westbrook wasn’t on a team like kd with golden state the so called best player in the nba by some
@bigcliff_9898
@bigcliff_9898 2 года назад
Right that KD move was wack an soft af.
@johnapple7662
@johnapple7662 2 года назад
Just said the same basically. 🎯
@Fallennova
@Fallennova 2 года назад
Dang. Keep going lol
@ProfessorMiles
@ProfessorMiles 2 года назад
Colombia vs UT! Best suit goes to Acho but Wiley won the debate
@trentjaye4756
@trentjaye4756 2 года назад
Acho got a bomb suit.
@NeilTruick
@NeilTruick 2 года назад
Here's why Westbrook doesn't need to prove he's at fault: It takes 11 players to win a championship. Period. The pundits and, by association, need a scapegoat when a team doesn't win. Russ is right when he says he has nothing to prove because if he wasn't Russell Westbrook, he wouldn't be wearing a Lakers uniform right now. Robert Horry has *SEVEN* championship rings. If we cannot personally credit Horry for being a part of those seven championship teams, we cannot hold Russ responsible for not yet being on a championship team.
@mall31st56
@mall31st56 2 года назад
Robert Horry’s nickname is BIGSHOT BOB, he made winning plays, played defense and made clutch shots, Russ don’t do either of those plus he’s a stat padding terrible decision maker and can’t run a team as a true point guard
@NeilTruick
@NeilTruick 2 года назад
@@mall31st56 Let's be real...Horry was never known for his defensive skills. He was a shooter--plain and simple--and no one asked him to do anything different. The Westbrook that played with Durant is not the same Westbrook we're seeing today. Westbrook and Beal were a good duo, but you knew they weren't going to win the East by the second game of the season. I'm looking forward to this Laker season, even more than I did when AD joined *because* of Westbrook. Why? Because Russ will have reliable and consistent options, unlike his days in Houston and DC. When he joined those teams, he knew going in he was going to have to backpack more often than not. This year, as long as AD can stay healthy, I think it's going to be a lot different and you are going to see a more team-oriented Russ.
@harrisonzahn5715
@harrisonzahn5715 2 года назад
If Marcellus says mine with that high pitch one more time...
@stevenbrown1762
@stevenbrown1762 2 года назад
Bruh Westbrook not getting a ring is on Westbrook no one else. Each start or superstar player he has played with have gone farther in the playoffs then he has when they split. Kd won chips, harden went to a game 7 in the conference finals against the warriors, Paul George just made it to the conference finals this past season, they all have played better on other teams then they did playing with Russ. Russ without harden, kd, or pg has been traded what 3 times or 4 times already lol like dang that's a problem if you a superstar. We can talk about all the regular season trip dubs all you want but come post season that's a different animal. Now you not playing different teams you play 1 team per series and those triple doubles don't happen often for him in the playoffs. Just look at the bucks. Both seasons Gianni's wins MVP, he flames out in the playoffs, this past season all be it it was lit with injuries, he didn't win MVP of the regular season but his team broke through and he won finals MVP. . Russ has played with 2 big 3s. Him kd, harden then him, pg, melo and only been out the first round 1 time with those big 3s. Kd won 2 chips with his next big 3. Lebron has won chips with all his big 3s. At some point Russ has to look in the mirror and say (what am I doing wrong?) Or (what do I have to improve on?) Him not getting out of the first round after kd left is on him.
@mixsignal91
@mixsignal91 2 года назад
Gawd dang Wiley got bodied. Like usual when Wiley tries to act like winning doesn't matter.
@nchan4679
@nchan4679 2 года назад
"That litteraly means you failed" lol
@johnnyvansguard869
@johnnyvansguard869 2 года назад
Wiley, what is every basketball player’s ultimate goal? It’s to win the championship. I’m with acho on this one
@gosuckone5347
@gosuckone5347 2 года назад
Wiley tryna say the "audience " moved the goalposts. NO, NO, NO the MEDIA started this after jordan retired. They constantly pushed Jordan has 6. You've got to get more than him, (even though he doesn't have more than Russell), in order to be the goat. They also started the whole championship is a huge part if your legacy. This is what really caused the players creating their own super teams. The media, not the "audience " started this whole problem.
@blessingnkosi9229
@blessingnkosi9229 2 года назад
The media is the audience in this instance.
@gosuckone5347
@gosuckone5347 2 года назад
@@blessingnkosi9229 No I think wiley was talking about the fans. I'm saying the fans are following the narratives that the media starts.
@momsdadsparentsworldtour4570
@momsdadsparentsworldtour4570 2 года назад
Marcellus is correct - the debate should have ended after his first argument
@jamesdawny1855
@jamesdawny1855 2 года назад
Two best players of the decade. Don’t just dismiss steph.
@bigcliff_9898
@bigcliff_9898 2 года назад
Acho KD wouldn’t have his rings had he not joined the Warriors knock it off big dawg!
@wilddog371
@wilddog371 2 года назад
Neither would Lebron if he’d stayed In Cleveland. The point is Russ ran KD outta town and if they don’t win with the stacked Laker team then he’ll need to take a good look at himself in the mirror.
@bigcliff_9898
@bigcliff_9898 2 года назад
@@wilddog371 but Bron actually won a championship in Cleveland. And the whole Russ ran KD out of OKC is just a narrative the media came up with to put Russ down. KD is just a sucka how you join a team that you was up 3-1 on the very next summer.
@wilddog371
@wilddog371 2 года назад
@@bigcliff_9898 That’s after he came back, I almost certain he wouldn’t have won jack if he stayed the first time. KD did what he had to do and I don’t think he would’ve won even if he stayed after that 2016 season with OKC. I don’t agree with the decision either but that 2016 decision was just the final straw of about 4 years of frustration with KD. Russ is stubborn and can’t take any criticism from anybody regarding changing his play style. Neither KD or the coaches could tell him anything because he’s always though of himself as the Alpha on a championship team when he’s actually more of a beta or gamma player.
@shortie9103
@shortie9103 2 года назад
Cel dunked on Acho with that mental health angle
@VictorVonDoom.
@VictorVonDoom. 2 года назад
Acho spitting facts again
@BmoreGoCrazy
@BmoreGoCrazy 2 года назад
With KD it could of been coaching they didn't tell Westbrook hey give KD the ball coaches act like they can't control Westbrook...I think okc could of won with better coaching they was young and had the talent but the coaching was key with young talent like that
@Jayoplantern
@Jayoplantern 2 года назад
No he thought he was better than KD and took dumb shots and crucial times.
@anthonyvangelos5972
@anthonyvangelos5972 2 года назад
Funny how marcellus give Russ a pass but has criticized giannis for not having a chip his whole career till now
@jays5379
@jays5379 2 года назад
I rarely agree with Marcellus but this time I agree. Westbrook has nothing to prove. Just go out, play hard and try to win a Championship. Do the right thing, Don't Force anything, Don't shoot 3s. Take high percentage shots and give the ball to LeBron or AD at the end when games are close. We will see what happens. 🙏
@bjeezy001
@bjeezy001 2 года назад
The coaches on those teams should also take accountability too though.
@dieselx506
@dieselx506 2 года назад
"I haven't failed jack" lol Wiley a fool
@philvillafane7142
@philvillafane7142 2 года назад
Excellent, he does have something to prove that it definitely ain’t gonna be his fault but the key to the Los Angeles Lakers this coming season is that LeBron and A.D. are healthy and the code to use low management on his two star players now that he has enough players where he can do that and he has rust that can go out and get his triple double when they’re not in the lineup that’s the key management and coach besides what you’re saying actual hundred percent right buddy wake up yeah man yeah clip a plan so you take what he says we’re all with a grain of salt
@Harry_Paratesties
@Harry_Paratesties 2 года назад
Exactly. Everybody is crying about spacing. The point of getting Russ is that when Bron and AD are off court (injury, load management, or subbed out) Russel is the best 1 man show in the league and can hold it down
@basketballgod2791
@basketballgod2791 2 года назад
kd never led a team to a ring tho lol like ever
@JunixKuizon
@JunixKuizon 2 года назад
Westbrook is athletic but very dumb. Dude relied on athleticism too much, he struggles when the opponents tighten their defense.
@leroyrichards2747
@leroyrichards2747 2 года назад
Buddy just defended buddy so good but he just said he was hanging out with him what acho trying to saying is Russell out of control plays and bad decisions sometimes he doesn't control clock on vital plays 2 to 5 mins under
@johndoe-fe4ty
@johndoe-fe4ty 2 года назад
Did anybody else hear "Wussell Restbrook"?
@TheOneEV2
@TheOneEV2 2 года назад
You can play a team game, but remember what Kobe said, No I in team, but there's an ME in that. Sometimes you can push and do as much as you can, but iffin the people around you ain't got it, ain't tryin, ain't going as fast as you are, then you ain't to blame. You did you to the best of your ability, but imo, one person shouldn't have to put that team on their back and carry them to success. Let him have his success, he ain't got nothing else to prove, and if he does, it's nobodies business.
@UneasyTortoise
@UneasyTortoise 2 года назад
cell gave the softest excuse ever for Russ. that was weak. Man we know the man is in the 0.000001 percent of people. We just talking about basketball and what he has to prove in that aspect
@leroyrodgers6089
@leroyrodgers6089 2 года назад
KD is better now than he was in OKC. At least in playoff situations. That series with golden state where they lost 3 straight games would simply not happen now. He also is a better defender.
@dantheman1194
@dantheman1194 2 года назад
Westbrook didn’t think kd or harden was better then him or look up to them as a leader but he will with Lebron he know Lebron a leader a winner a champion and better period so I believe Westbrook will listen to Lebron plus Russ just want to win at this point he got the most triple double mvp all that he know it time to buy into a ring
@dantheman1194
@dantheman1194 2 года назад
@@ojoj5194 ima laker fan Russ a laker so I’m also a Westbrook fan
@sensaivers
@sensaivers 2 года назад
Acho, I don't agree with your relay-racing analogy in the sense that you spoke on Westbrook running a relay with KD as KD did with Steph, but I reckon the analogy should be KD vs Steph running with a Westbrook.
@kentrellparker-murphy2018
@kentrellparker-murphy2018 2 года назад
based on Acho’s thinking, Cavs losing to be Warriors Game 1 of the 2018 Finals, was Bron’s fault even though JR had that blunder
@bucciair15
@bucciair15 2 года назад
No that would be jr fault because Russ usually plays with players that are better than him.
@DV-lr8ec
@DV-lr8ec 2 года назад
I don't know Acho, some people in Buffalo might disagree with you.. 4 straight Superbowls, the most famous game was the missed FG to win it all "wide right"
@MBoykin1982
@MBoykin1982 2 года назад
MVP isn't the best player. It's the most value player to their teams success. He was never the best. Triple doubles just mean he has a ton of heart and ton of energy.
@devaughnsquire4321
@devaughnsquire4321 2 года назад
That’s crazy Willey saying that about Westbrook but Clowned Lebron for not winning the first year in LA
@boywonderarias
@boywonderarias 2 года назад
That was a good joke even Acho laughed lol boy your dad wouldn’t be proud of uou
@kinglee609
@kinglee609 2 года назад
Argument ends with $244 mil in career earnings. Can’t believe people knock a person that has made that type of money legally.
@Cahluvca
@Cahluvca 2 года назад
Prove them wrong Brodie!!
@samdavis8765
@samdavis8765 2 года назад
Marcelus Wiley wins this one.
@Smittywermanjagermanjensen
@Smittywermanjagermanjensen 2 года назад
I hope Westbrook has a vengeance and wins mvp and finals mvp along with a chip
@FrozenzFirez
@FrozenzFirez 2 года назад
You always have something to prove. Especially when you got 40 plus million contract on you and have not accomplished anything significant to the team.
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