before injury kanter was 6th moy candidate; they have adams oladipo yet it's all westbrook {?} again: just westbrook {?} okc on same spectrum as gsw or sas, no. is it just westbrook, no. are they a good team, yes. p.s. if drummond averages 20 & 20 next yr & pistons are 3rd-4th seed in the east is he the mvp? not rhetorical but an honest question.
John Wall is 2nd in steals, 2nd in Assists, & averages 22 and 11, but when point guards are brought up his name never gets mentioned. Half of these other pgs are only good for scoring.
Never really believed in Wall's ability to carry a team until this season. I think Wall maybe the best PG in the east, but debatable between him, Thomas, and Lowry. I like Kyrie but he seems overrated, I doubt he could carry a team
Alfonso Thomas yee i know, what I like about him is that he is objective, he doesnt just dickride lebron for example but he acknowledges positives and negatives
I'd agree with you if Russ' body of work was not as it is. Russ has no love for Curry, and even moreso now that KD teamed up with him... Steph is constantly on his radar!
Exactly. These people are interpreting it wrong for ratings and the sheep are rolling with it. The media has power, the media turned 2Pac and Big against each other for stories and look how that turned out
Who's he? Oh just a superstar, 2-time NBA MVP, 2-time champion, single-season leader in 3-pointers (402 in 2016) and also holds the record for 3-pointers in a game (13). That's who Curry is. Who's laughing now, Westbrook?
I'm glad he said it. The league needs more of this. Draymond, Boogie and Russ are some of the players who aren't afraid to speak their minds on/off the court.
Last time Westbrook took a shot at Steph curry. Steph torched him for the remainder of the WCF. Came back from being down 3-1 and averaged 33.6 in those last three games. So
Idk why everybody says curry is better because he has a ring and Russ doesnt. Im sure if Wade and Bosh were injured in 2012 Russ would have a ring right now too ;)
Marco Acuna Andrew Bogut seriously?? Lmao he only played like 15 minutes a night. And last time I recalled Draymond and Iggy played in games 6 and 7 and what happened??? Golden State still lost. Kyrie played in game 1 of the 2015 NBA Finals and that was it. LeBron took Golden State to 6 games by himself.
It's not just because of the ring. Curry is more efficient, a more willing passer, clearly the better leader and personality that guys want to be around. Also his style of play and intangibles resulted in 67 and 73 win seasons + a championship + helped recruit KD. You tell me what Russell Westbrook's style of play and intangibles has amounted to thus far other than complete collapses in the Finals or WCF, and giving one of the leagues best players reason to leave?
hector cervantes you don't need play makers. Russ is supposed to be the play maker and making everyone better and he's not. it's all about himself. harden has the same type of teammates and compare their records
AFCG K he definitely will! Cause KD dropped at least 38, 30,40 in all 3 times they played plus his defense. And the warriors been struggling against mediocre teams so okc has a chance.
Shannon is wrong, coaches voted for russ too. It wasn't an even 33% for each group, fan vote made up 50% and coaches and players each had 25%. So it was splits 50-50 but fans vote was the tiebreaker
Russel Westbrook has that Jordan mentality. Be the central point of the offense while always working harder than his opponent every night. His rebounding ability makes him incomparable to other guards, major respect #hustle
People be like oh lebron makes players better , u dont think curry makes klay and draymond better look at the season kd is having efficiency wise curry makes players better westbrook doesnt
treyvone scott Curry does not elevate his teammates like Lebron do. GS strives in team basketball populated by good passers and great shooters. The system made these players look good not Steph. Cleveland on the other hand, has the best one-on-one players in the league in Bron and Kyrie. They thrive in isolation plays. What makes Lebron's way so effective is that he himself literally involves the person in the play. He repeatedly sets up the person he wants (by both set plays and his own plays) over and over again and boosting their confidence by repeatedly doing that even when the game is on the line.
I think Chris Is got it twisted. Russ would have had the same answer even if it was Jordan who has him under contract. He's one of if not the most competitive player of all time. The Media didn't even tell Russ completely what Curry said. They just told him a fraction so they could get a good story smh.
Im tired of them still debating the mvp in general, it's russell. And they keep saying oscar averaged it and didnt win cuz wilt put up 50 or bill russell averaged that and that guy did that, no one is averaging these stats today! Oscar would have won the mvp if bill and wilt didnt put up these numbers. Who's putting up 50 or 20 and 20 today? Just give it to russell, well deserved, u wont see anything like what hes doing this season for a very very long time.
The same way Skips popularity grew by being the out spoken anti Lebron all these years, FS1 shows are trying to boost their ratings by being anti Warriors/Curry. The man has his first shooting slump in years, 7 regular season games, and gets killed. Still with the best record in the league. But they act like Russ doesn't shoot 42% on the season. lebron shoots under 40% from beyond 3ft. Not 3 pt shot. 3 ft.
bowsergp He said beyond 3ft, not 3p%. Lebron is great at finishing at the basket or in the post, that's 0-3ft from the basket, but his mid range and long range accuracy is pretty bad. Anything from 3ft and beyond is a low percentage look for Lebron.
I actually like Undisputed better than First Take, I watch First Take mostly because of ESPN, but going to check out Undisputed more often. I get during these shows you have to have an opposite position, but Undisputed seems more genuine and not just because "I have to". Shannon, Skip, Chris Broussard
he's averaging a triple double each game, yea harden is leading his team to the playoffs but westbrook just lost kd, westbrook is about to beat the record more most triple doubles in a season, either way whoever wins between those two I wouldn't mind
Metro Boomin its gonna be close between james and russ. but i thinks bcoz of the triple double. russ will win. but i want james to win the mvp because last season he was the mvp of the players and steph won becuase of the fans
Westbrook was 1st in Player voting, 1st in Coach voting and 3rd in fan voting. Fan voting counts more (for some reason...) and that is why he ended up not starting.
People exaggerate. The media loves controversy and blows everything out of proportion. He clearly meant "Who's he?" as in "Who's he to say who should be MVP? He's not a voter", not "Who's he?" as in "He's a nobody". People also hate on Chris Broussard for no reason, he's a great analyst.
he and steph are fine. this year's all star they were fine. last year steph put westbrook on his snapchat. and honestly, steph wasn't throwing shade at westbrook with his comment. he was saying with how they view who gets mvp, harden is more likely to get it. the reporter who asked wb about it didn't make it sound like shade either. I'm a wb fan, but he took it out of context. which is really no big deal.
Danilo Jovović 4-0, 4-1 okc might sneak in one game. but if okc gets a playoff series against the warriors, spurs, or rockets it will be one sided. the playoff series will not be competitive at all. you enjoy watching one sided games?
kuay beatz But Russ is the one averaging a triple double and has 42 triple doubles...breaking the record and is definitely the MVP of this season. Now Russ is right because who is the woman that shaved off her vaginal hair and reattached it to her chin and called herself a man???? Serious question... imma just sayin dude🤔
Actually Russel got 1st place in player and media voting for the all star game. He got 3rd in the fans behind harden and curry for the guard position, which is why he didn't start
Zaza Pachulia can score 10 points, so thats easy. Then the whole game pass it to someone to shoot and run to the rim. If they miss try and get the rebound, if they make it you get the assist. I would take Draymond Greens 1 non-scoring triple double over 33 of Westbrooks any day. As for the Curry thing anyone who watches a few golden state games can see that curry is a better passer than Westbrook but it doesn't reflect in the statistics because curry isn't afraid to pass it to someone just so they can pass it to someone else as long as they score.
Tiutube Yiutube He's never been afraid even before they were All Stars. Steph sharing the ball is the only reason Klay and Dray are able to show how diverse their game is and play at All Star levels. Russ at the PG spot couldn't make Harden an All Star. It's funny cause the same ppl online that try to diss Draymond as being a system player and not a legit All Star will then turn around and say he's an All Star whenever they want to make Curry look bad.
Thats irrelevant, lets break it down. I'm saying its to easy for Westbrook to get TD's using the formula I mentioned. In order for Westbrook the get the 10 assists his team mates still have to make baskets but the last person to pass it has to be him. I'm saying Curry is a better passer but does not care wether he's the last one to pass the ball before the person that shoots. The point is "afraid" or confidence in your teammate making the shoot has nothing to do with this formula because wether they make it or not you have a chance to get the rebound and if they do make it you get the assist.
Erik Rosas curry can rely on his teammates to make a good pass because they're capable playmakers. As for Russ, if he's not setting them up for a good look at the rim or an open shot, they're completely lost. Assists show how easy you're making it for your teammates and curry relying on his guys to step up all the time in no way make him a better passer than Russ.
Nah he just got exposed in the playoffs last year, against westbrook(who laughed at his bad defense) and lebron(blocking curry every possession) And like fads, they come and go. Which is what curry is. This year curry isnt even in top 10 for MVP.
Shanon hit the nail on the head, who can't win 70 games with three all-stars and who can't win be the favorite when u have 4 stars on a team, when Russ is a one man show. tbh harden shouldve won 2015 MVP
Uhh, Westbrook had Harden, Ibaka and KD and lost in 5 in the Finals. I honestly believe Klay and Draymond are starter-caliber players, but playing with Steph has elevated their game over the years. Steph creates so much space and demands so much attention. Warriors were trash until they traded Monta and focused on building AROUND Steph. He was the best player on a team that's been the best for the last two or three years. I wish people would stop acting like Steph got all-stars traded to his team, as opposed to growing with his own squad.
The Curry hate is starting to get out of hand. Lets hold these other stars to the same standard we hold Curry to. Curry couldn't carry a team like Russ? what to a 6 or 7 seed? I don't remember curry playing on a team with 3 other All Stars when winning the title? Curry has elevated the play of Klay and Draymond. Russ had Ibaka, Durant, Harden, all on one team. even had Jeff Green. The thunder had a 3-1 lead and Curry dropped 95 pts over the final 3 games. and dropped 46 in OKC when he hit the game winner from half court. But I guess Curry was guarding himself? I understand Russ is the feel good story this year, but lets not act like he wasn't part of the problem. I've already seen Curry carry a team. Russ I've seen have a great individual season. Curry without KD had one of the greatest seasons ever. No consistency. The question was presented to Curry, " if you had a vote, who would you say?' it's the immaturity that's the difference between the two players.
Jeremy Blair Very true. I tell people all the time about how Steph won by elevating his teammates in 2015, plus the Warriors drafted all their so called star players. Curry is very talented I just think people hate on him bc he's on the Warriors breaking records and defying the game in a different way. Plus it doesn't help that he plays with Draymond lol
Jeremy Blair curry never carried a team btw the year before they won the finals klay Thompson was getting better and draymond was and still is the leader of the golden state warriors. In 2015 iggy got the finals MVP.
Saying Curry is better than Westbrook because of his rings, is like saying Brian Scalabrine is better than Allen Iverson. Saying Curry is better than Russell Westbrook because of his MVP's, is like saying Steve Nash is better than Dwyane Wade Saying Curry is better than Russell Westbrook because of his efficiency, is like saying Bradley Beal is better than Kobe Bryant
MG23 "just bigger" what do u mean by "just bigger", they're both the same height, Westbrook having a little bigger build than curry but that's about it, compared to Shaq who's 7 inches taller than Jordan, awry comparison imo
yall acting like this is the firdt time. if i remember he did the same thing to reggie jackson about 2 years ago. westbrook does not care if ur steph curry he just cares about his team and winning games. everyone hates westbrooks attitude off the court but i absolutely love it.
Jacob Kadar Jackson asked to be traded to get away from playing with Russ. That's different. They had a legitimate problem with each other. Curry simply answered a question and did not slight Russ in any way. Curry even went out of his way to explain that it wasn't a matter of more value but that he gives the nod to "James" (don't know if that's Bron or Harden) because over the years the record has always mattered.
MG23 Jackson was backing up Russ and okc wasn't gonna start him at the two so he wanted to go elsewhere to see his full potential. Also why would curry not go with the guy to win MVP who would win it for the same reason curry won his two?
MG23 Jackson was a bench player at the time he left, just like Harden. They both wanted to start. How is that Westbrooks fault? You do know is 5on5 and not 6on5?
DJ DRoe da KING I never said Russ caused it. Just that they legit don't like each other and it's a mutual disliking. So of course Russ meant it in a disrespectful way when he said "Who?" regarding Reggie.
Shannon's wrong about the voting. Both the coaches and players picked Russ, and the fans picked Steph, but the fan vote not only counts for double, it's also the tie breaker.
who is steph? really? a two time league mvp, nba champion and arguably the best 3 point shooter in nba history. that man has a opinion and in his opinion, james harden is the mvp. Westbrook is all about his stats, all about chasing the triple doubles, which he believes makes him the mvp... but will that equal a championship as well? he is obviously chasing stats and its nothing wrong with that, if he just admitted it...stop pretending! "oh i just play hard and all i care about is the win." total bull IN MY OPINION. so i guess he will average a triple double for the rest of his career and win mvp every year ? oh please. u can see big men not even trying to rebound when he is in the game, yall think thats by accident? they have been instructed to get out of the way. why do u think nobody has more than 1 or 2 assists besides him? because he dominates the ball...so he can shoot when he wants and get majority of the assists.
Who's He He is Stephen Curry A 2 Time Unanimous MVP A Man who can shoot from anywhere and put a layup right under your arms n score He led his team to the finals which was arranged from the draft picks He dominated in Finals against the team of LeBron which we know as the King He is the important part of the team which beat the 95-96 Bulls untouchable record, 73-9 He is the one who never asked for any great players to be in the team He is that humble man who let his skills speak than trash talking He is the man who never cared about his stats, at the very beginning of the season where mates such as Westbrook n Harden were somehow scoring near to triple doubles, he was averaging 25 pts with Durant aside and where these two MVP candidates where getting these numbers with more minutes playing, with 32% 3pt range, 43% 2pt and 81% FT he was having 39% 3pt, 51% 2pt and 92% FT He is the person who beat you last year in Conference Finals with Durant with you and still you aren't able to give a tough competition when you faced him in this regualar season He is the man of a team which is currently at the top in all section, whether it's east or west There are lot of things about this guy which will still dominate your triple double average,,.
Dominated in the finals??? Steph has under performed in both finals hes played in. He was locked up by Delly against an injured Cavs team in 2014-2015 finals and then choked and was one of the main reasons the cavs won in the 2015-2016 finals .
Christian Bury Really Bro U came up with this I've seen each finals game and I remember everything 2015 Finals Steph was averaging 26 points in those 6 games Final MVP Andre was averaging 16 points per game Game 6 of the Finals Andre - 25 pts Steph - 25 pts and you saying he underperformed where Lebron was averaging 40 points in first two games. That was equivalent to MJ but do you know how much his team mates scored the score were 2,6,4 leaving Kyrie apart who scored 23 on his 1st game and 2016 Finals 1st three games he scored 19, 18, 15 next three games 37, 25, 30 and Last Game he really choked with I guess 11 points So can say to some point that he underperformed in 2016 finals but please don't exaggerate with this fake statement that he underperformed in both the finals,,.
Both Harden and Westbrook have underrated teammates and some of Westbrooks are rookies. Abrines, and Sabonis are going to get better, but right now he's deserving of MVP clearly because of what he has done from a historical standpoint. For people to make it seem like he's not a team player is disappointing. He's avereging 10 assists and is a great rebounder and goes and gets it amongst the trees.
Blaze up how is he a stat padder when his team wins pretty much every time he gets a triple double do you know what stat padding is it's when you get triple doubles and crazy stats but lose all your games and what is curry besides a guy who chucks up threes
trevion sewell didnt westbrook drop 27-7-11-4 on curry? aka more rebounds assists stls blocks ftms fg made 🤔 kd cost them game 6 and i promise u he did it on purpose so he could cut to the warriors especially after they admitted to recruiting him during the reg season
Media who asked Westbrook took it out of context to create drama smh. All Curry said is he'd pick Harden because historically the MVP award has often gone to the candidate whose team has either the best/close to the best record.
westbrook your great but you should not be asking whos he when he lit you up in the western conference finals last year while being banged up cause he re injured he knee or something in game 5 the disrespect people show towards curry is insane shows how fast the media can turn on you
I remember curry scoring 30 in 3 straight games and hitting that dagger in game 7 westbrook wanted no part of that man cause he could of stepped up once curry shook roberson but he just stood and watched
you obviously dont watch the games because there are or was plays where curry had to guard curry guard westbrook smh people commenting on games they dont even watch
