Skip and Shannon disagree Kobe Bryant is ‘more skilled’ than LeBron James | NBA | UNDISPUTED 

Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED Yup

Cavs in 6. Bron not losing to the C’s especially without Kyrie

If he gets no help nope if he does nope the celtics aren't the craptors #CUsRise

Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED Kobe A Better Winner , A Better Champion Cause He Got 5 , Lebrn got 3 , Kobe Got The Skill , And Ain't Noting Pretty about That , But Successful And Beast .

Yes

Steve Pineda He’s top 10 to damn near everybody lol

Steve Pineda As a Kobe fan to my core, he's my G.O.A.T. It pisses me off! I can't stand, Shannon, Colin & Nick Wright.... especially when talk call themselves analyzing Kobe's career because they have NO objectivity because they're mouths are filled with LeBron's nuts!

Factory

Steve Pineda that's because we aren't blinded by HOT shooting. Kobrick was a overrated shooter.

He is the most inefficient players of all time

RBTheBreakThrough PREACH

Is it disrespectful or is it facts??? Kobrick stans...

Facts cant be disrespectful my g

RBTheBreakThrough this is why we love you RB!! Keep up the vids and the inspiration. Maybe you can even make a video about Kobe being the most skilled ever

DICKRIDIN HATER KOBES last game he scored 4x LeBrick's last game so keep hating, rider

And among Paul Pierce, Jalen Rose and that female anchor(sorry I don't know her name), none of them disagreed.

Did you just quote a player who didnt see the the 2ndcavs lebron once 18' bron was godlike

good point... ambidextrous people are always at the top of skilled people in my eyes, though this may be irrelevant to basketball

Kobe wasn’t ambidextrous. Bron is tho...

@@rayyaanjavaid6475 Kobe was ambidextrous in the basketball court. James isn't as good with his left.

Yet he never learned how to pass

@@umont13 kobe is a underrated passer he knew how to pass he just didn't cuz he had a score first mind set and plus If we talk about 2005-07 kobe he had no good team mates to pass to but it was different during jus 3peat and his back 2 back.

footwork is just one skill

@@comedianbradfowler Neither Kobe or LeBron is on Bird or Jordan's level

kobe better than bird and bron. kobe is way more skilled I don't get it you regular people love talking but the nba players have said kobe might be the most skilled player ever. not better than me but more skilled. kobe is better than bird 1 on 1 kobe would win 8 out of ten

@@GunsNGames248 😂😂 your funny bro Kobe better than bron and bird get outta here

@@SDD0607 bird can't handle kobe 1 on 1. yall forget kobe is a elite defender. kobe is way more Athletic as well. bird is a better 3 point shooter but volume shooter kobe hands down without getting tired out.

Your right he's better than all of them a much higher level in his prime except for dwade

SanctumGaming Q Pau isnt better than Kyrie and Timberwolves K Love is better than any season Pau ever had

Pau was wayy better than Kyrie he averaged about 18 10 and 4 when he was on the lakers

Marvino Marvin dominating the league without making the playoffs?

Lol that's because Skip hates LeBron. Before LeBron won a ring Bayless was bashing Kobe and even said that Gasol deserved finals MVP in 2010.

Serious brother

It’s just playing a role, skip was often more of a critic of Kobe on first take opposite Stephen A Smith

GraceSon3 so what? Who tf is the nba players? Im still going wit lebron not kobrick

Everyday we Lit ask actual players whose the more skilled between the 2. Kobe all day...not Lebum I need help please. Please suspend Draymond so I can win lol lol...

GraceSon3 Didnt I just say idc what nba players say, that doesn't change my answer

NBA Players are not your Asian homeboys LMAO

players that actually play against BOTH says KOBE is more skilled and harder to guard. People who dont play says lebron. Which advice will you listen to? The one with experience or the one that doesnt? enough said.

DaevonTheSavage Everybody respects Kobe, he has a ton of fans as you can see by the comments. There's still a lot of people that hate LeBron tho. Which is ridiculous since he's one of the greatest also.

As a Laker fan good luck to you guys. Knock off Lebron

DaevonTheSavage I agree bro the media hates this guy and they are so bias towards Lebron I love Lebron but the media is so bias and always gives him excuses it’s annoying I wish there was some unbiased media members

No respect? What world are you from?

@@IMBC650 you should watch all the media discussions before Kobe’s death. A lot of people were discrediting Kobe for the sake of praising LeBron

good point... being a better winner does not translate to better skill

@@demetrius-yi4ew Yeah he did. RU-vid Phil Jackson says kobe is more skilled than MJ. He said it in a radio talk show as well and in an interview

He said Jordan was better tho

@@scaryanima9268 becaue of his Athletic ability and the size of his hands. kobe has more skills and ways to score because he had to learn every shot in the book

@@demetrius-yi4ew He has said, don't come on here and say otherwise if u don't know the truth!

What hate? The fact he’s not better than lebron? Cuss he not

Pat Mcgowan he is

@@patmcgowan5143 you're a casual.

@@robertcepeda5552 cause kobe is not a better all around player than lbj one of the greatest of all time but lbj is by far the best team player get out of ur head

No ones hating

Are you kidding? His missed shot stats in important moments are out the roof. Guys a legend.

LeBron fans dont want to hear about this bro lol. Hes the best due to stats. Don't mention losses please whatever you do. It's his teammates fault.

@Leland Joseph are you hearing/reading things that arent there? No one mentioned Kobe

@Leland Joseph it's irrelevant because no one mentioned Kobe. That's why we're ignoring it. Your stubbornness isn't going to change that

@Leland Joseph oh I'm ignoring it. I'm ignoring it and it's driving you crazy. I win. You lose.

On 50 shots

J. Green I remember him going 7-21 in gm7 of the finals and was carried by gasol

Folesadelphia, Wentzsylvania at least Kobe not afraid to shoot the ball , Bron gets to the paint a lot you see what happens when that paint is locked up and he has to shoot he passes the ball

Folesadelphia, Wentzsylvania hes gone 20 for 26 and had 31 shots when he dropped 62 stop using a old kobe to act like that was his career

J. Green that’s not being skillful that’s just being a pure scorer

Kobe more skilled lebron the better player

Varis man because of his athleticism

@@varisman4197 false

KoS jr smith is the the best tough shot maker!

James Taylor Stop it. Kobe got triple team and double while taking those shots unlike jr who can't even shoot consistently

KoS True

KoS only takes em 4 shots to make it too!

allen iverson

Yannick Kimenyi 2nd to Jordan

If you've mastered scoring you don't take contested shots, you make the defense give you the easiest shot possible

First off Kd more skilled than both of them imo and JORDAN is over EVERYBODY period he had the best footwork of all times y'all sleep

The Flight Boyz because footwork makes you the GOAT 👍🏻

Is this your opinion or you trying to state a fact? Cause if you trying to state a fact you are completely wrong but you are free to have your opinion.

Exactly man made the most difficult shots an average or above average player could never make

@@lyricssong7151 Kobe hit the most crazy difficult shots I’ve ever seen, but Kobe was a gunner and would shoot anything. MJ hit difficult shots he had to take, but he was more sound in finding higher quality shots.

I was speechless at his 17% 3 point fg vs the pistons in 2004 😐

Karl Malone tried to hit on his wife ..and threw him off his game , but nobody talks about that

@@nostalgiacorner1999 I was shocked by LeBron vs mavs

THANK YOU!! Finally..... someone addressed it..... DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY, of course Lebrons stats are padded!! He bully balled half his “shots,” as layups!!!!

I agree with your Kobe argument but being physically gifted doesn't translate automatically into skills and efficiency.

Hes not better than lebron just stop 🤦

Difficult shots😂😂 meaning more bricks

truthseeker89 for life Just because your more skilled doesn’t make you the better player

Will Rich great post

Will Rich 10000% truth just explained these same facts to a lebron stan in the barbershop SMH.

Will Rich Facts

Will Rich you tripping teams don’t just leave LeBron open on the 3 point line, did you watch the NBA this year

King Ramoo of he said in the past he would be right

Timeless Livin nobody gives af, who has the most bricks in nba history again?

For real way to much disrespect for a top 5 player of all time..

Mario Galeano i can't take it anymore

NoMore MrNiceGuy 😂😂😂😂 u thought you were gonna hurt my feelings

Well it started with MJ disrespect, but now that its obvious that he is not better than Jordan statistically, eye test, aggressively, or legacy wise. So now they have to go to the next best thing which is Kobe and disrespect him now.

Chris Plambeck lebrons defense is underrated too. From 09-14 he was the best defensive wing/perimeter defender in basketball. Finished top 3 in DPoY voting twice. Let’s not act like lebron was a slouch on defense, in his prime he was a monster

Connor Smith he wasn’t Kobe though.

@@connorsmith6517 😂😂😂

And AI put 37 on average on Kobe 😁

@@connorsmith6517 Kobe 12 time all team defense

Lebrons a king

Ganke One since when did mentality have anything to do with skill?

Fun Fact Lebron shoots %10 better than kobe in the clutch

I don’t know why people hate. When one player is praised, the other player gets negative comments and is treated like they are irrelevant. Respect them both. Kobe more skilled, lebron more dominant, both superstars.

He is a killer which is why he came back 3-1 while Kobe blew 3-1

secondpink It really is!

secondpink its fact tho. Kobe was never more skilled than LeBron. Maybe in scoring but thats about it.

"Maybe in scoring but thats about it". Well, yes, that is where the majority of skill is involved: the ability to put the ball in the basket. Is rebounding a skill? Yes, but not to the same degree as scoring. Not to mention that Lebron is simply taller and larger and plays a different position, so it is only natural for him to be a better rebounder. Him being a better rebounder has nothing to do with skill, but with body, size, and position. If Kobe were 6'8 250 he'd average 7,8 rebounds a game too. Passing? Lebron is the more consistent passer than Kobe, but at the same time he has a higher usage rate and has the ball in his hands most of the hands, and takes on the role of facilitator, so he will get more assists. Anyone who has watched Kobe over his career knows he could go out and drop 10 times at will if he wanted to. Did you forget defense? Lebron is a more versatile defender because he is larger. But he is not an elite defender. Kobe was an elite defender, hence why he has 9 first team all defense selections. He could consistently shut down the man he was guarding. Lebron's versatility has nothing to do with skill, Kobe's defensive prowess is skill.

Scoring isn't everything. Kobe was a great scorer and so was MJ. But LeBron is The Only One Out of All of Them who filled out every category. Points, Assists, Rebounds, Steals and Blocks. He Filled Out Every Thing. And LeBron wasn't a Ball Hog. So That's even better.

@@saberplaytop Bias Story for your favorite player LeBron is viewed as the better player dawg.. face it.. It's a reason they say MJ vs LeBron MJ vs the King MJ vs GOAT James 😂 Kobe barely got any Classic Playoff Ask Siri how many Classic Playoff Games LeBron got? 😂 Stop dawg But RIP Kobe

Yao actually had real skills you casual.

@@soulblad3X Im not saying Yao had no skills he had mad skills but i was making a joke that if being tall and strong is a skill then this 2 will be the most skillful players. Being tall is an advantage they have that has nothing to do with their skills that was my whole point.

@@soulblad3X Yao had mad skills for a over7'5" center but he didn't have skills like guards or wing players

They always highballin Lebron weight😂

@@ervinjasar should of gone with Manute Bol and Taco Fall

Ronald Wilson my guy, Kobe missed the playoffs dead smack in his prime at 26 years old

Ronald Wilson bruh my mans 34 and ur holding that against him 😂😂😂 Kobe wasn’t making no playoffs at 34 or later.

Mr. Bacon who got more rings and who never jumped ship?

@@hakeemm1003 At least Lebron didn't threaten to leave if they didn't kick one of his superstar teammates out.

Mr. Bacon Lebron got a whole lot of players kicked off for the Cavs his last yr with them 🤫

That's until they ran into that great Detroit basketball team and the rest is history .

Finally someone said it. There was no all star centers who were role players in those finals.

That's just wrong. No shaq and those teams don't even sniff the playoffs.

jaxsonlee10 No Kobe and they won't make it either. What's your point?

Scott Cinco With just Shaq they're a playoff team.

Dražen Keković Literally nobody ever brings this up. Great facts

Dražen Keković facts

can somebody tell me how come its always an analyst who says lebron is better than kobe but most players say kobe is better than lebron??????? i wonder buteither way I'll stick with the players on this one.

Kobe didn't win Finals MVP because he was 2nd fiddle on his own team.

Dražen Keković - and when Kobe tried to be the man in the finals vs the Pistons- where Shaq still had the better matchup- Kobe shot the Lakers out if that final. Point is when you have a nightmare matchup like Shaq, you give it to him. And Don’t think kobe didn’t benefit from all those double teams Shaq drew....

But never mastered passing which is more important than free throws so

@@nathaniellange9526 he has the second most assists in the NBA for a shooting guard. His job was to shoot hence the title SHOOTING GUARD.

Alexx Allert that would be because of the amount of touches and minutes and years played, he’s going to accumulate the assists, I’m not saying he’s not a good passer but he’s not great at it and it’s a bigger difference from his passing to lebrons than Kobe’s FR to lebrons. And that’s obviously relative but per assist to free throw it averages out to more points influenced obviously.

Alexx Allert that’s like saying harden ain’t a ball hog

@@nolimitphoenix9251 hes not a ball hog but the offense is designed for him to always have the ball. What do you want him to do pass and stand in the corner?

Almost as bad as nick wright

No he isnt

truthseeker89 for life yes he is. we will never see a Kobe. Lebron is just more built and stronger no one can stop his drives . Kobe is just more skilled

ogsharp Thank you this is why football players should not talk basketball....

@@jaybrick8973 Yes he is*

Chad 2017 Agreed!

Julius Isome yeah when u take less chances that happens lol

Lebron

Julius Isome but he's 3-5

I find that funny considering Lebron has hit that shot in the playoffs more than Kobe has. No one give a damn about clutch in the regular season.

Wraith Black did he win though?

The Knight of Awesomeness no got swept by Hakeem

Timothy Short my point exactly, so without Kobe Shaq has 2 rings AT BEST

Shaq was a winner too, he taught Kobe how to win

What star player ever had more help then Lebron? Honest question? If there isnt an answer then lebron stans shouldnt even bring this topic up.

Jhon Benedict Baltazar I feel you dog 😂😂😂. Skill wise, Kobe all day. This is just scripted debate

What weird stats? They're not even talking about per and all those other advanced metrics.. Everything Shannon said was literally facts & y'all acting like Kobe getting disrespected.. Stop reaching y'all the ones talking bout some petty footwork like get real

@@id6570 thats exactly what I thought all these kobe fans think that anybody cares about footwork and mamba mentality but thats a bunch of bs. no one is disrespecting kobe he is a top 10 player but lebron is top 3 simple as that

Tobsi XI Kobe isn’t in my top ten...I’m not even a lebron fan. I’m a Kareem fan.

@Tobsi XI @Wako Blank If you don’t acknowledge Kobe in the top 5 at least, then you’re delusional.

Derek Garcia and Lebron was a better passer, rebounder, ball handling is debatable and attacking the paint.

Chris Lucero rebounding is a dumb stat steph curry averages 6 rebounds a game as a point guard

@@Falcons15176 did about Curry, we talking about Kobe and Lebron and who has more skill.

Falcons15176 rebounding is a skill Dennis Rodman was 6’7 and almost averaging 19 rebounds one year

KJ x BUCKETS lmao...kobe played with 7 footers patrolling the paint. why would it be necessary for a guard to steal boards from the big men? that's how bigs lose their feel for the game

@Kishon Moore Most turn overs in nba history, worst performances by nba superstar in finals, worst free throw shooter of all nba all time nba greats. -lebron james

@@techinfra4505 facts 😂 and made his point guard take the clutch shot in the finalz haha

VA Sports and entertainment he doesn’t have the worst performance. Last I checked he didn’t lose a 3-1 lead. Like cmon man, that was far worse then the Dallas series.

LeBron Miss them even Healthy What a Choker 😂🤣😂

Beautiful reply

Realtruth J.T He's a LeBron nut hugger... Knows jackshit about basketball

Because of what he can produce lacking those fundamentals

@@MINK2393 When Skip said Im gonna have to get under the table, I didn’t hear him say lighting might strike and thought he was going under the table to check if Lebron was giving Shannon a bj to say all that none sense😂

😂😂😂😂

Kobe is a harder worker than anyone. But dude Lebron in high school was the biggest phenom ever nobody was more skilled than Lebron or gifted. Ur crazy

when LeBron tries (playoffs) he's a better defender, he can guard 1 to 5.

@@acpliegono he can’t stop believing that lie

I’m a Spurs fan as well, but you’re lying if you weren’t worried in 2013.

@@bobjeff6899 not as much as I was with the Lakers really I felt Spurs where the better team that season. Kobe scared me more that LeBron ever did. Not even close. And if your a Spurs fan than you know the feeling.

If you tell a story tell the full story. The 'older' Spurs were shooting like crazy from 3 and played a different style of bball. That older Spurs would shoot ANY team out of the building

EntertainmentGuru the 13 And 14 spurs are underrated. Would have been back to back champions if it wasn’t for Lebron James going crazy for almost every game that series. He averaged 28-10-7. And numbers were harder to get back then compared to today due to their being like 20-30 possessions less

Bob Jeff if Kobe hasn’t torn his Achilles in 2013 that spurs vs lakers matchup was going to be the best matchup in the playoffs regardless who won

Tommy Jarvis he choked on against the Dwight Howard and the magic

Tommy Jarvis He had Paul Gasual

Abdul Aliakbar lol wtf has Pau done before and after Kobe! How man all nba teams? How many playoff wins? Pau wasn’t even an top 5 player at his position (Dirk Timmy KG LaMarcus Aldridge Chris Bosh) and you’re bringing him up 🤔🤔 smh

@@jona1han2k4 Lol how'd he choke when he averaged 38 and had games where he scored over 40?

The Great One he also never lost in the first round unlike that salamander, he ain’t no mamba, he not even top ten. Not even the best at his position all time

I had a boxer's fracture my sophomore year and learned to shoot with my left worked on cuz of Kobe, my idol

No he didn't

@@ericlonette8768 i can make 3's with my left and I'm nobody

@@alexanderyoumans1688 sure you are, you're Jake from statefarm.

Kobe not to long ago lost the Nba 3 point context... To Curry.....

Some people argue that D Wade was robbed of some of those all-Defensive teams since there was a period where most people considered him a better defender in most ways. Also, LeBrons defensive peak is better than Kobe’s.

Kobe went to 7 finals he got robbed for 2 finals MVP's kobe played longer in a different era played with injuries. Kobe was an assassin kobe has more skills footwork scored 81 points a game against 5 different defenders that night against the Raptors. Wow!! What's da debate here????

Kobe had 15 allstar selections and 1st team all defense 12 times kobe has hit more threes more clutch shots better free throw shooter more players wanted to play with kobe a little more too....

shayne raymond kobe shoots 23% in the clutch LeBron has made more clutch shots than Jordan and kobe combined at a high clip than Jordan and Kobe

Kobe was never robbed of dpoy

iq isnt something you are born with

@@esharma1708 yup so just disregard everything else he said...

FACTS.

@@fyemusicplug6486 well i mean kobe was 6'6 and had a father who played in the nba. Lebron didn't even have a father growing up. I could've said that. But I didn't. Because that isn't kobes fault. Like being 6 foot 8 and having big hands isn't lebrons or Michael's.

Kobes iq was higher

Edgar Gordillo hes not changing anything you just dont know what skill is

Jaylen Norwood And you obviously don't.

LeBron is better already

Eduardo Navarrete I think LeBron is better overall but he’s not more skilled than Kobe.

Jaylen Norwood Lebron is bigger and gets more assists. Kobe is the finesse god

Best post I've seen on this subject. Excellent stat find.

As a scorer, of course no question. But that’s one skill. Lebron beats him at every other skill except footwork. Passing, rebounding, defense, leadership, finishing at the rim, and player efficiency.

@@toptiertone Kobe was a better offensive player and defender. He was better at playing off ball, had crazy footwork, and had more post moves (LeBron stopped playing defense for years when Kobe played his hardest almost every game). Kobe > LeBron (Skill wise) and it ain't close (like the GOAT discussion).

Night Mare Like I said footwork, yes and maybe offball. But Kobe’s post moves were fade-aways and pump fake/pivots. Just cuz Kobe played out the post more doesn’t mean Lebron doesn’t have the skill to do it. When he decides to, he bullies ppl and is successful. you can make a great case for Kobe being better offensively but no way defensively. Lebron was a great versatile on ball defender guarding 1-4 positions, and even better off ball which is where the majority of his steals came from. Then there’s help defense, hence all of lebrons chasedown blocks. Also defensive rebounding and fast break transitioning, he was much better than Kobe. Lebron stopped stopped playing defense after 14 seasons and only in the regular season cuz he was asked to do so much. In the playoffs he showed you that he was still capable of ELITE defense. He might not the goat, but Lebron is the most skilled player of all time

⁠@@toptiertonebro defense??? What?? Kobe is 12 times all defensive team to Lebron’s 7. LeBron doesn’t even play defense anymore

Dwayne Jonez That has to be one of the stupidest arguments I’ve ever read. When you have different builds you work on different skill sets. For example, if you are 7 feet tall you’re going to work on post moves and rebounding and focus less on ball handling and passing and vice versa with 6 footers. Saying which skill sets require more or less skill is completely objective and there’s no way you could definitively say one playstyle is harder than another. Your argument is giving an example body almost identical to Kobe’s so of course his set of skills is going to be better suited for it. I could flip your argument around and say if they were both 6’10 280 pounds who would be better and the obvious answer would be Lebron because his set of skills fit better with that larger frame.

@@MrBacon-ou1kw This has to be one of the stupidest statements. 6'10 280 pounds Kobe would break every record ever established in the NBA. The records would be set so high that nobody would ever get close again. Couple reasons why Kobe was the best was because of HIS MIND, IQ & WILL. 3 big things that Lebron lacks. The only thing Lebron has over Kobe is his freak athleticism, take away that one single advantage and it automatically becomes a no contest win for KOBE. EZ MONEY

BaLLa It’s not fair to say who would be better at the same size. In that case Iverson would be the greatest. Lebrons footwork, speed, creating space, etc is worse than Kobe’s partially BECAUSE the fact that he’s bigger. Bigger guys never move as well as smaller guys. That doesn’t mean Dirk and Duncan aren’t super skilled, even if they can’t do half of the stuff that Kobe can do. All this being said, I agree with you for the most part. Kobe is overall a more skillful player. But Lebron is more skillful in certain things, specifically on the playmaking side or off ball defense. Lebron is also better at finishing around the rim, Kobe was great at it too, but Lebron is better. And that is skill, not size. Lebrons efficiency around the rim is comparable to 7 foot centers, he’s just really good at driving and finishing.

ScopeWorth its size. His whole game and finishing around the rim is due to sheer size and athleticism. The main skill Lebron possesses is his court vision. Other than that he loses in all other skill departments. Kobes IQ and mind is what puts him over Lebron. You cant possibly argue that Lebron is smarter. Last but not least the difference in killer instinct is the icing on the cake. We both know Kobe wins in that regard as well.

@@balla2828 WTF you're saying kobe's iq is better than lebron??? Man you're high af, everybody even 9 years old know that lebron's iq is the highest in NBA HISTORY, even skip bayless said it himself, and you're putting mind and mentality in the same sentence i don't see a difference between those two, the only thing kobe is better than lebron is creating shots. Lebron james leads his team to victory, kobe's mentality is an inspiration, but it backfires sometimes when he just ditch out his team to take the difficult shot, that's why he couldn't make the most out of his teams. Of course in a one on one contest everybody would take kobe, but if i wanna win, i'm taking lebron all day because if you had lebron in your team, you know you're winning over 50 games, and don't start off about last season, he was injured and lakers basically threw their season out of their windows when Lebron sit out for like 10 games or something.

DenverStruck WHAT!! LeBron has a higher 3pt percentage, than Kobe. Averages more points per game. More assists. More rebounds. Has more MVPs. Tell me how Kobe is more skilled. Plus LeBron can guard all positions and has one of the highest IQs is basketball. Then again. How is Kobe more skilled. I thought so too but know I think about it, LeBron is for sure more skilled. And LeBron guarding all positions isn't a myth. They put LeBron on Tim Duncan before.

DenverStruck Kobe should be ashamed of himself. Kobe Bryant is a PURE scorer and LeBron STILL averages more points per game. SMH

He literally has 1% better 3PT% (which points to Kobe having more skill at the 3pt because of the harder shots he takes from that distance), also that is bound to go down even more when his career is all set and done idiot, and if you want to go that route, Barkley averaged more points, assists, rebounds, had a better FG% 3PT% AND FT% than Timmy D but does that mean he is better or more skilled? NO LMAO, and who has he guarded thats a 5 and locked them down, I vividly remember him getting torched trying to guard prime D rose ahaha

DenverStruck He locked up Gasol.

DenverStruck u clearly don't have an argument if ur gonna call me an idiot. U don't insult someone when making a point. And we're talking about LeBrons 3pt percentage when it's said and done were talking about rn! And Kobe shot 3x as much as LeBron! How does LeBron still have a higher 3pt percentage??

Kobe Bryant had ask for a trade

who tf would go another team while having prime shaq on your team?? you dumb af

@jarvisbell exactly, the players came to him. So what's the difference?

Bron went back and got one

I see no lies in your comment!

And Skip's is buried in MJ's

Duke Strikcani only idiots and delusional fans think otherwise

Yeah people think jumping higher, running faster and dunking means having skill lol

Exactly. Someone that can score anywhere on the floor on any difficulty is the more skilled player. I didn't know assist and rebounds amounted to basketball skill. Wtf kinda arguement is shannon trying to bring up.

Delusional kobetards

real talk

Kobe> LeBitch statpadder in the weak east

how is lebron better? lebron drives to the basket 19 times per game. great passer. kobe drove to the basket just 5 times per game. 700 of his attempts at the rim this season, thats lebrons game. kobe one of the best all round players to ever play. lebron attempted to shoot mid range and 3 point shots in game 1 and he had a horrible game, those attempts are what kobe lived for. I always root for the guard that can shoot from deep and dominate in the post and thats kobe bryant.

www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01/shooting/2011 www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01/shooting/2018

Y'all sounding crazy in here. Guess Kobe never had a bad game

Tell me why he wasn't getting the minutes

@ lol the right pass in clutch situations? No wonder he's 3-6 in the finals 😂. FYI look at Kobe's footwork, pump fakes, fadeaways, ability to make 3 pointers, his amazing defensive prowess, and his mentality. That isn't a slight to LeBron, but how TF is LeBron more skilled than Kobe?

@@erikmerced6329 Yeah lol just bringing his finals record up even though it's not even related to the conversation, how tf is 3-6 related to making the right choice at the right time?? And how is mentality even a skill to you??Typical lebron haters, you're talking about footwork, pump fakes and fadeaways? Lebron's got all of em, you act as if he didn't have any of it, not to mention he's a better 3pt shooter than kobe, i don't think i even need to say anything about defense, the man is just flat out better than kobe, the only thing he hasn't caught up with kobe is rings

@@bachnguyenviet4289 umm... Sorry to break to you, but Kobe is way better than LeBron at playing defense. Idk if you know but LBJ stopped playing defense for years. Also, it took LBJ like a decade to acquire a decent jumpshot. Lol recency bias at its finest 😂😂. Better 3 point shooter? 😂😂. Also, LeBron isn't clutch like Kobe, 3-6 vs 5-2 while Kobe was in the Western conference and playing through many injuries. I don't wanna go on and on even tho I can, son

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@Mike Oxlong 1. Stats do not tell the entire story, dude. AD has better numbers than him, but is he the leader of the team? LeBron is a better rebounder than Kobe and Kobe is a better scorer because of the different positions they play. Okay let me start: 2. LBJ in Miami was definitely an elite defender, but even from 2014 to 2019, he would've just let players get past him easily when he was too lazy to even guard. He'd blame his teammates for his defensive lapses. And don't get me started on what Jason Terry and JJ Barea did to him in the 2011 finals. I can't justify LBJ being a better defender overall if he doesn't consistently play defense, even though he was a beast for most of his time in Miami. LeBron has 5 all defensive first team selections (6 overall) -- Kobe never took a night off and gave it his all on defense and offense every night. 9 time all defensive first team and 12 all defensive teams in total. 3. From a skill set, Kobe was better than LeBron at ball handling, shooting mid range, shooting 3 pointers, footwork, creativity on dunks (lol just my opinion), hitting fadeaway jumpers, 1v1 situations, free throw shooting, clutch moments, playing off ball on both offense and defense and mentality -- LeBron is a better finisher at the rim, scoring on the inside, playmaking, durability, and is more efficient, while being bigger, stronger and taller than Kobe. 4. LeBron would literally shoot closer to the basket while Kobe was a threat at all times from anywhere (3 point line, paint, 20 Ft out, etc.). Bron was finally able to shoot consistently until he got to Miami. 5. LeBron is a great player, but why does he flop so much? Like I respect him as a great player, but he better than that. FYI, Kobe never flopped in a game. 6. Team success is great, but when your second best player is another top 5 player in the world, it's expected that your team are in the top 3 teams in the league 7. IMO LBJ is great, he's just not as good as Kobe was. Like in a 1v1 situation in their primes, Kobe wouldn't lose is what I think. (P.S. this debate would be endless lol)

He’s not and it’s not even close

Not even close.

Belak yeah let me know when Kobe goes to 8 straight finals Lol

Belak or even half of that without shaq

ClutchSzn⛹🏾‍♂️ he went to 3 straight without Shaq and won 2. But that has nothing to do with this debate. Skill is skill.

Ok guys apparently swapping bodies is now a legitimate argument.

You just proved that lebron is better kobe needs to be in lebrons body

Andrew S. You just mad cuz u know I’m right

Excellent point. If we are talking pure skill not athleticism then Kobe is vastly superior.

Teezy 😂😂. MJ in Lebron body tho....

I wouldnt even go as far as more athletic

@@ozarkmountains4947 lower vertical, he’s slower. Lebron is more athletic

Lebron is by far more athletic. Bigger, stronger, faster, more explosive, higher vertical etc....etc... I can't think of a single athletic edge Kobe has over him. Kobe wasn't even the most athletic wing of his generation, McGrady and Vince were easily more athletic

James Parrilla Thats what i been sayin a football player turned basketball player.He clumsey when he play he not comfortably natural.

If somebody average 3-1-1 we gon call him a great ? That answers your question

@@JohnWick-wb7ux Is Wilt most skilled player to ever play? NO. Stats can be whatever they are due to many reasons. Use your eyeballs. Obviously he wasnt more skilled LOL

Nope

Mike Oxlong 1. Better shooter from everywhere 2. More agile 3. More skilled in terms of footwork (Undebatable everyone knows this) 4. Master of the midrange fadeaway jumper (Unstoppable with this shot. Name one person who stopped it). 5. Smarter/Higher IQ 6. Better stronger mentality. Everyone knows this. 7. More Rings even though he had to fight through multiple 50+ win teams from the Western Conference while Lebron’s road was weak Eastern Conference teams each year.

Sounds like a hater to me!

Brian Erwin talk 2 em!!

Lebron got rob lmao

Still not 4 lol

And Bron got robbed at least 4 times xD

This comment is highly underrated!

Red King wanna know who got BLOCKED twice in the all star? 😭

i may have to agree... but its irrelevant to the topic. its about skill not heart

Johnny Money averaging more points. More assists More rebounds Higher 3pt percentage. More skilled? Nah! I thought Kobe was more talented, but now I think about it, LeBron is for sure.

Mike Kyeame Kobe played at the highest difficulty in NBA history. And look at what he did

Rockets. Highest difficulty? Lmao y’all overrate Kobe so much It’s ridiculous.

Rockets. HIGHEST DIFFICULT!??? Kobe got swept by the MAVERICKS, the MAVERICKS lmaoo

Mike Kyeame the same mavericks that killed the Miami super team in their prime and held LeBron to 17 ppg and only scoring 8 points in a finals game. Just killed that Mavs point you tried to make.

Alex2k so who do you think is more skilled?

Chris Fellows Skill Wise Kobe. But Lebron is not behind at all. I mean what can Lebron do that Kobe Cant? Kobe & Lebron Top 3 All Time. What About you?

I pick LeBron slightly. But at the same time they're asked to do different things. I just don't get how people are using championship to make an argument.i hate Kobe but I don't discredit what he brought to the game. I like not love LeBron but I acknowledge what he's brought also.

Chris Fellows Kobe's Job is to score but if hes asked to do more he can do it all. Use the 2012-2013 Season he did everything because the whole team was Injured and eventually he did too much hes body gave up and he got injured. Lebron has to do everything his whole career untill he got help in Miami and the 2nd Run with Cavs. Hopfully Lebron dont injure himself from carrying the team and playing too much minutes like Kobe. Stats dont tell the whole story IMO

Alex2k This simple Kobe is more skill than Lebron. Kobe could do all the things Lebron does he simple choose not but when he did he could had. Kobe is better than Lebron anyway

Mark Dayanghirang facts the case he had

So did lebron And Jordan. So what’s you’re point?

LeBron has been robbed of mvp more times than Kobe has

TheBroSpud n dpoy

2trill terk it’s because most times they put up stats for reasons why when making your players better is more valuable

Better at most missed shots in NBA history Better at 3 straight airballs Better at 60+ points but took 50shots 😂🤣😂

@@dark_meziah3753 You gotta take 'em to make them

@@dark_meziah3753 81 points

@@jariusisaac8616 81points to a Non-playoffs team 🤣😂🤣 Best player in his 4rings.. how about your mamba abnormality? 😂🤣😂

@@dark_meziah3753 true Laker fans now Kobe was better.

It should never be the topic because lebron isn’t better than kobe

KILLMONGER X Kobe wasn't even the best player on his team for 3 championships

They realized Jordan is better so they have to go down the ladder until they find where he might have a legitimate argument lol

Paco H dwade stepped back so lebron could be the best player ...also you forgot to mention without Kobe shaq wouldn't have won..before kobe..0 rings, with Kobe 3 rings, with wade 1 ring, and with lebron 0 rings....kobe is more skilled

LL CALI REP Shaq was like 80 when he he was with lebron 😂😂😂

mister money crazy how bron is the better athlete but Kobe is the better dunker

Kobe took some of the worse shots in tough moments. His fg% is worse as well.

mister money Phil Jackson would disagree with you. He even said he wished Kobe played more like LeBron.

SanAntoBalla in flopping

mister money I’m sorry 0 flaws? I’m guessing you’re never actually watched the man play, the guy was cancerous at times with his ball hogging

Lol because Kobe can score on him? Okay, I didn’t know basketball was only about shooting. Bron more skilled and you know it. Bron can pass better, rebound better, and run an offense better. Plus Lebron can still give you 25 points a night.

Kobe's defensive skillset is even better. His laterals, his defensive posture, the way he uses his hands, and his techniques in applying pressure despite him not having a larger size and relatively smaller palms. Meanwhile, Lebron's defense is purely based on his freakish body.

Basketball isn’t only shooting the ball bud. Bron can pass, better, get more boards, set up an offense better, and still give you 25 a night. Y’all think just cause Kobe is a better scorer makes him more skilled

all the shots he's missed also made me speechless

AnarchyProductions was you speechless when lebron lost all them finals too ? Just asking ya kno

@@gjackson9754 No, just speechless from how Golden state had to stack the deck to beat a healthy Cavs team.

@@AnarchyPranks Like LeBron in the clutch😂

@@jonathanlaque4248 have you seen Bron in The clutch

Except when he face tayshaun prince in those finals when I knew he shut down prime t-mac in Orlando I said kobe going to have a hard time against that brother it showed but kobe is the most skilled out of the two. But has far as the most skilled player ever I would say hakeem the dream he could play in any era and best believe nobody would stop the dream nobody go look at those films ask shaq heck ask david robinson lol.

What do you mean anyone can get it

Shane Battier gave Kobe a hard time

Love this comment

Bruce Bowen used to D Kobe up anytime including in the playoffs. Raja bell locked Kobe down too.

Cap his teams have pretty much always sucked after Kyrie left

@@coopdam3721 Yeah but even then his other teams had superstars and he still could not win as much as he should have.

ahsanimtiaz53 that’s so wrong bro he gives any team he’s on a championship run and that’s goat material no matter what. You think If kyrie irving was on Lakers instead of Lebron they would be projected to win . Nope

Kobe won a title by himself? Disrespect for Gasol, Bynum, MWP and others. The argument is skilled, not teammates.

Juanito Villasante Shaq ?

Michael Scott 💯

Michael Scott been saying that for years ask any player they pick Kobe over Lebron

facts 95% of these dudes don't know where their local park is

The Xman Pippen, Kyle Kuzma, Lonzo, Isiah Thomas, and Lambieer all say LeBron. and a lot of players aren’t really asked, so idk what makes you think “any player” will say Kobe.

100 OVR Batman Bron Stephen Jackson K Mart shaq Charles Barkley all pick Kobe over Lebron

Lor Dj Kobe is overrated and has the most misses in nba history 💀💀

Nnamdi Ubbaonu fr

Jordan 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 Shaq 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🥈🥈LeBald 🏆🏆🍯🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚and one more on the way🥚

Lor Dj how’s it disrespectful to say some one who is clearly better is better than Kobe

Nnamdi Ubbaonu Kobe is better than LeFlop. That’s from players in the league

the narratives around lebron are just super dumb. KD is regarded as a better scorer than lebron, yet lebron averages more points per game for his career than KD does, and scoring isnt even lebron's best atribute or focus. its wild that a guy that is going to finish his career as the all time leading scorer has a narrative that he isnt a good scorer. the reality is that lebron is judged on different standards compared to everyone else

@@joaobrito2653 first off all kd averages more points per game for his career on a true shooting percentage that is significantly better and the narrative that lebron doesn’t focus on scoring is ridiculous you do realize he averages more field goal attempts and free throw attempts than kd but still averages less points?

FarukMS FacTs and Lebron is NOT more athletic than Kobe either. He’s just a better stat padder to have his name in the convos with the greats. Weak👎

Bron came into the league more talented than both

@@id6570 stop it...lmao...

@@id6570 no just no

One path is not better than the other.

I don't think I'm gonna listen to some Middle Eastern guy about Basketball or athletics in general

How is he the most skilled scorer? Lebron averages more points while shooting better from 3 and overall fg%. Kobe has the most bricks in the history of the NBA

Kobe is a "better winner" because he was 2nd fiddle to Shaq for 3 rings.

Hamze Ahmed wouldn't championships help his brand?

yeah mj and kobe are one level. lebron is not at that level skill wise. although lebron is playing well this year as a scorer in the playoffs

yeah mj and kobe are one level. lebron is not at that level skill wise. although lebron is playing well this year as a scorer in the playoffs

Jordan is the goat

Vinoo Kobe was a better shooter but you shouldn't get credit for taking terrible shots. He was known for years as a ball hog that ran out Shaq, till Phil came back and Lakers traded for Gasol.

Vinoo couldn't have said it any better that sums it up perfectly.

@PandaGaming yaaap. Just not another brainwashed American

Toya’s Real He’s seldom objective when it comes to LeBron and it’s annoying now

Venonous Villain Very much so!

Toya’s Real It's soooo annoying, now!

Toya’s Real he speaking factz doe

BAW Entertainment LOL! Not this time, he isn’t.

Kobe in the Playoffs: 5640 points in 220 PO games LeBron in the Playoffs: 6540 in 228 PO games +900 points in 8 games more played for LeBron Kobe PPG in the PO's: 25.6 PPG LeBron PPG in the PO's: 28.7 PPG +2.9 PPG Kobe efficiency in the PO's: 54.1% TS LeBron efficiency in the PO's: 57.7% TS +3.6% more efficient In short, LeBron scores 2.9 PPG more than Kobe in the PO's on 3.6% better efficiency. Doesn't end there. 50 point games in the Playoffs: Kobe - 1 (you Brick turds consider his to be the GOAT scorer and he has ONE 50pt game in the PO's? ) LeBron - 0 45 point games in the Playoffs: Kobe - 5 LeBron - 9 40 point games in the Playoffs: Kobe - 13 LeBron - 23 35 point games in the Playoffs: Kobe - 39 LeBron - 51 30 point games in the Playoffs: Kobe - 88 LeBron - 104 25 point games in the Playoffs: Kobe - 123 LeBron - 156 20 point games in the Playoffs: Kobe - 167 LeBron - 204 LeBron has scored under 20 points only 24 times in his career. Kobe did it 53 times. There's something Kobe can beat LeBron at. I know you idiots are going to say LeBron was facing wack competition in the East. Lets look at the Finals numbers, shall we? Kobe PPG in the Finals: 25.3 PPG LeBron PPG in the Finals: 27.7 PPG Kobe efficiency in the Finals: 51% TS LeBron efficiency in the Finals: 54% TS LeBron scores 2.4 more PPG on 3% better efficiency than Kobe in the Finals. LeBron does this while facing significantly better competition, BTW. Lets go in a bit deeper. 40 point games in the Finals: Kobe - 1 ( ) LeBron - 6 35 point games in the Finals: Kobe - 4 LeBron - 10 30 point games in the Finals: Kobe - 13 LeBron - 18 25 point games in the Finals: Kobe - 22 LeBron - 30 20 point games in the Finals: Kobe - 30 LeBron - 37

Its not irrelevant, it clearly shows that the "skill" you're all talking about clearly translates from LeBrons game to the numbers, look Im not a Kobe hater, but there's more to "skill" and basketball to post "footwork" and mid-range difficult shots, thats all im saying.

This guy is literally saying Kobe's more skillful than LeBron at the OFFENSIVE end and I showed you why thats false...

Absolutely

LondoMc Steezy You can be more efficient in a game, but still lose it all. Quite ironic, isn't it? The thing is that skills are not just about the stats you put up, it's where it should take you. Putting up insane numbers at the right time is also a part of your skill. Lebron's focus was his individual stats. Kobe's was his influence to others. Two different things. Analysts will side with Lebron as they see the numbers. Players and fellow HOFs will side with Kobe, as they see his achievements and influence to the players, fans, and the league in general.

It's ridiculous how Larry's not considered the undisputed most skilled player of all-time.

If Larry had Lebron's body he would have ruled the NBA for 15 years straight

Armen Hovakimyan chase? He was the clear cut best player! Kobe had shaq and when he left the lakers were terrible and he even demanded a trade. It was when gasol and Bynum came they start winning

King Ralo demanding a trade is a lot different than jumping ship every time free agency come around.

Prodigal Son jumping ship? Are you serious? No matter what team he on he is the best player !

Kobe is more skilled but definitely not the better player.

Tj Adams I mean I think Shannon broke down why Lebron is more skilled ...

Johnny Blaze He couldn't fight and he a snitch. That looks like weakness to me

@Everyday we Lit: LOL.... Those are the FACTS!!

if Shannon's argument was bad why did Skip try and change the argument multiple times?

Kobe didn’t pass the ball he didn’t rebound he shot his self out of games all the time

Everyday we Lit at least kobe doesn’t run from fights and will throw his hands .. Lebron been in the league 15 years and has no altercations 🤔🤔🤔 . Bron scared of confrontations

Youness Fettach Shaq is right there

Stats show skill. What do you mean.

Brycen Edwards Is Emmit Smith the best RB ever because he has the most rushing yards of all time. Is Kareem the best player ever because he has the most points of all time? Stats don’t tell the whole story

@@cashking9383 Actually I do have Kareem Abdul Jabbar number 1 all time because he has won the most MVPS, the most points, most all NBA teams, and was the most dominant player in his time.

Best = most skilled on the team rere