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Russian Bethel of the Jehovah's Witnesses 

Goatlike Personality
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Working in the Russian brach was one of the best, and Worst, experiences of my life. I really loved the russian Brothers and Sisters, but bethel itselfe was very toxic. This is my experience, other People might have had another impression.
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Melody: Heili Karjalasta.
Lyrics: Erik Petersén och Katarina Mazetti.
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@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
This is a link to the areal fotage of bethel in Solnetjnoje. Its an Nice compound. www.bing.com/maps?osid=d10de006-c238-4ba6-a347-465f0225795a&cp=60.158362~29.927795&lvl=16&style=h&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027
@Esther-1914
@Esther-1914 5 лет назад
It'll make a nice hospital, Brother Goatlike! ;-)
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
@@Esther-1914 Yes. Its the Perfect Place, I am happy the russians get free Health care. Its a lovely Place and the Beach is just a short walk away.
@jeneb52
@jeneb52 5 лет назад
Don't the Russians own it now, so no money for the org!
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
@@jeneb52 The goverment will use it as a hospital ore something like that. Very good.
@mt64qa
@mt64qa 4 года назад
Your life is never dull,but I realize you would rather it was. JoannThompson
@juanitagarcia8909
@juanitagarcia8909 5 лет назад
I'm moved by your show of emotion! You're a great storyteller and your stories are very deep and powerful. Keep sharing them Brother Goatlike 😃
@franksimmons9242
@franksimmons9242 4 года назад
Compared to GB, very natural.
@Esther-1914
@Esther-1914 5 лет назад
"We don't have blood [in our veins], we have Watchtower Ink" ROFL!!!
@willyb933
@willyb933 5 лет назад
Outstanding. Your honesty and humility come through to anyone who has a heart. I am seeing you and your channel mentioned widely among the community and rightly so. We are a community of people who are honest of heart but have been ostracized and abused for not conforming to false and misinformed doctrine behaviour and practice That's an easy statement for the org to counter because they have a pool of indoctrinated and fearful followers who have no other source of information or resource to refer to and acknowledge reality without fear of retribution . You put a face to Truth that is unique and inspiring for any honest hearted person. Thank you for that. I would go so far as to say ...and I'm sure others will agree ...that your Humility goes beyond most and that you will inspire beyond boundaries that most could ever achieve. You are a gift in men.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Nice of you to say so. I had a bad day this Friday, so I needed Your kind Words. :-D
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
@Skjeren Kristjenson Thanx Sis
@mn7607
@mn7607 5 лет назад
I send you love from USA. Free from WBTS bondage. I find this organization reckless, you were probably too genuine for them. Thank you for you! Subscribed😊
@beckchasewolfe
@beckchasewolfe 5 лет назад
It's horrible that this organization has hurt so many they strain the gnat and swallow the camel I appreciate you sharing your experiences with us
@greatdayn4651
@greatdayn4651 5 лет назад
#1; The three pieces of advice from your older uncle are gold; thank you for sharing. #2; NO child dreams of working for no pay for the benefit of people they don't know nor ever will know. With the one exception of tremendous brainwashing and indoctrination from the time of a very young child. I feel such sorrow for your missed childhood. #3; You are a "bethel crasher." I'm so proud of you and your cleverness to get "in." #4; Phrases I think are great from this video: "Bully others before they bully you." "It's all about appearance." "Bottles every day, but trash once a month." "This is a place with no love." "Why are you buying chocolate (that's not healthy)?" These could be the beginnings of many, many MEMES. #5; There are many things by which I measure what a "real" man is. No brown nosing here, sir, but you tick ALL the boxes. Not because you don't cry, but rather the reasons why you do. #6: My lovely brother, NONE of the that was your fault. I think you believe that, but I'm not sure if you FEEL that. NONE of that was YOUR fault. #7; Pavlov's sheep waiting for their meal, didn't know which way to pass after the bell. (Do you think he shunned them all after that? LOL ) #8; Would have loved an English translation for your amazing song (Dude, you can REALLY sing well.) 😊
@natashapeeters988
@natashapeeters988 5 лет назад
Great Dayn, you said exactly what I think.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
I know it was not my fault, but it was hard at the time. Now I have to google "Pavlov's sheep" and find out what this means.
@greatdayn4651
@greatdayn4651 5 лет назад
@@GoatlikePersonality ; It's simply a play on the famous experiment on conditioning often called Pavlov's dogs. It's classic conditioning.
@MartysShenanigans
@MartysShenanigans 5 лет назад
Jonas, you share a name with my dad, so I already feel a connection just for that fact🙂 I love how passionate you are about injustice. I’ve recently left Jehovah’s Witnesses and the damage they caused in my life is insurmountable. Your videos have given me reason to keep moving forward. I love that you are happy in most of your videos, but I also love that you let your emotions show in this video.
@39yuffie
@39yuffie 5 лет назад
You are a very good person. I appreciate all that you bring to the table. You are very sympathetic to others issues. Keep doing what you are doing
@824thor
@824thor 5 лет назад
You were given this life because you are strong enough to live it. Remember everything you have faced, all the battles you have won, and all the fears you have overcome.hope is the only thing stronger than fear. You continue to amaze me! I love you brother!
@matilda4406
@matilda4406 5 лет назад
@Skjeren Kristjenson I totally agree SK, jealous of course. I remember being told not to laugh, it can be a bit of a shock. Then what the hell should I be?
@ERNIE555
@ERNIE555 5 лет назад
Skjeren Kristjenson I realized that too...my female boss at McDonalds used to hate me...for a lot of reasons.... I was pretty...pretty cheerful most of the time...had no money....was slim (think that was the main reason😜)even though I ate al day...nasty bitch.....but still got me promoted to be assistant manager 🙃🙃🙃🙃😻
@ERNIE555
@ERNIE555 5 лет назад
Skjeren Kristjenson that was 1992....and I was 25...
@ERNIE555
@ERNIE555 5 лет назад
Skjeren Kristjenson not more Money...I opted to only working 3 days instead of 5 and usually the weekend night shift and had the entire week off
@jwsuicides8095
@jwsuicides8095 5 лет назад
@Skjeren Kristjensongreat comments from yourself and others such as @Annette Haas on this. Thank you for sharing. x
@jeneb52
@jeneb52 5 лет назад
A very touching story about your time in the Russian Bethel, and how things got weird for you. Sending warm hugs for the treatment of those young sisters who were only doing their menial job. I would have gotten mad, crashed the cart clanking those bottles, then walked out!
@heatherwillson4862
@heatherwillson4862 3 года назад
Im so sorry that they hurt you like that. I can relate completely. They hurt me like that too. The lack of love was what woke me up. It was soul killing. The pain of other JW's hurt worse than my own pain. I read a book by a wildlife biologist who did a very in depth study of mule deer. He witnessed their struggle to survive up close & personal. He said that you could see the pain, hurt & betrayal in their eyes. My eyes had that same look & I was baffled that no one saw it, or cared. Not even my family. I HAD to leave! Humm...funny, it was my fault, just as you say... Thank you for taking the time to make your videos.
@Delilahv17
@Delilahv17 5 лет назад
You have such a good heart.I am so sorry to hear what you went through. But when ever the Watchtower is involved fear,guilt, depression and death will occur. Thanks for your video exjw’s need your optimism. 🙂
@Missionbellfiduciary777
@Missionbellfiduciary777 5 лет назад
Delilahv17 well said
@blitzblutz
@blitzblutz 4 года назад
I wonder why The Watchtower brings out all the bad like depression and control?!? Is it just the a--holes that seem to rise to the top or are the vast majority of JWs total idiots?!?
@elizabethkerr9990
@elizabethkerr9990 4 года назад
I am so glad you are still here I enjoy hearing your views
@anneroberts6634
@anneroberts6634 5 лет назад
I was deeply moved by this account, Jonas. You are a star :) So glad you escaped.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Me to 😊
@massagetherapyforinjuriesf8197
@@GoatlikePersonality one of the best video in YT Thanks my friend
@rajanogray9088
@rajanogray9088 5 лет назад
I love that "Never ask permission."
@nellylugo7414
@nellylugo7414 5 лет назад
That was a very nice but sad story about the abuses that this organization does to the youngsters! I cried watching it, but loved the song even when I didn’t understand it! Thank you for your videos, I know it will help many!
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Thank you. Its nice to hear you liked it because I am having a crappy week. :-) This is the original song: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7nnZZLWg8Hw.html
@Rupunzelsawake
@Rupunzelsawake 5 лет назад
The Insight Volume says this about Bethel: "...Bethel, once prominent as a place of revelation by the true God, now became renowned as a center of false worship....Bethel became a symbol of rank apostasy from true worship.." How appropriate for the org to use the name Bethel!
@Stella-mi7vz
@Stella-mi7vz 5 лет назад
Thank you for your story, what a loving person you are! I hope life treats you well from now on, much love to you.
@Busybumblybee
@Busybumblybee 5 лет назад
I love listening to your videos. It is so sad that people get treated so badly. It makes me want to vomit that these people are so heartless. This happens in a lot of institutions. Not only in JW. I feel it is better to avoid all institutions and just follow your heart
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Yes… but other People liked it better then me.
@Rupunzelsawake
@Rupunzelsawake 5 лет назад
You have a lot of heart...and a lot of passion. Your account was entertaining and moving. I dont have interesting or dramatic experiences, but I can relate to "feeling like shit". This was especially true when I became a mother and was struggling with babies and small children at meetings, assemblies and conventions. I would come away feeling not refreshed, but an utter failure. It was then I recognized for the first time the lack of love in the organisation.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Its the same experinse… At least you got to have a Family before you left. Its nothing great about waking up on bethel… or anywhere else. I am just glad we woke up.
@Rupunzelsawake
@Rupunzelsawake 5 лет назад
@@GoatlikePersonality Yes. I can never look at my 25 years in the org as an utter waste of time because I did raise two beautiful and level headed children...... despite the org! They are both out and living life!
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
@@Rupunzelsawake So happy for you.
@leehenry5256
@leehenry5256 5 лет назад
"Somethings wrong with this organisation but it's probably me?" Very profound words! This is how all us Apostates felt for a long time, The real truth is that WT was and still is the problem, Very powerful and interesting video that will help those ones who are waking up,
@jwsuicides8095
@jwsuicides8095 5 лет назад
OHMIGOSH! Me too! I had to be the wrong one.
@dancingnature
@dancingnature 4 года назад
That’s how people who have been subjected to narcissistic abuse feel.
@EXJWAnalyzer
@EXJWAnalyzer 5 лет назад
"He would deny everything and I had no second Witness! ... This is powerful shit." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 5 лет назад
EXJW Analyzer - He knew how to “work the system”, LOL!
@theohuioiesin6519
@theohuioiesin6519 5 лет назад
”Shit”=means “stuff” in the mind of a Swede speaking English usually. Sadly I only learned too late how coarse it comes across in the English ear. 😁 Germanic languages seem to think in the same way about that concept. English being the exception that might have picked it up from their « frenchy » years. (Not to Minimise one bit though if the profanity was perfectly deliberate... 😁)
@richardschiller7803
@richardschiller7803 5 лет назад
@@theohuioiesin6519 The same with the word fukt which most foreignors and deaf people regard as screwed over so that the average normal proper foreignor will say fukt fukt fukt as much as american street scum (never knowing the average american is appalled. Not to mention English movies give them the impression that americans say fukt all the time.
@robmullin1128
@robmullin1128 5 лет назад
It would be awesome if you interviewed him on your channel.
@lisawakefield6994
@lisawakefield6994 5 лет назад
Bless you for caring so much about the Russian brothers and sisters. You were too kind for this organisation . I am glad you are out and here to tell your story. You are a good man. Sending you love from the UK.
@williamswagerty6610
@williamswagerty6610 5 лет назад
My mother was Russian! And she had the heart of a lion in standing by her kids when we 'floated away' from JW's at some point of our lives. She never completely shunned me when my dad (100% agnostic) passed away. She allowed me to live with her until her last breath May 19, 2016.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
@Skjeren Kristjenson He was Lucky :-D
@ERNIE555
@ERNIE555 5 лет назад
Aren’t Russian women nice and considering..15:00...see a man in need....and show him the bathroom...a no...the prostitutes...🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣....looking forward to meeting you personally Mr. Sheeplike 🍺🍻🍺🍻
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
@@ERNIE555 Not Sheeplike anymore.
@ERNIE555
@ERNIE555 5 лет назад
Goatlike Personality Mr. Mafia.....I would have rather worn a black suit and tie and sunglasses in Service too....🕴🕴🕴🕴🕶🕶🕶🙈😜😜😎
@williamswagerty6610
@williamswagerty6610 5 лет назад
@@GoatlikePersonality VERY lucky
@rachelle2032
@rachelle2032 5 лет назад
I loved the song!!! I couldn’t understand it but enjoyed hearing and watching you play! It was hard to see the pain that experience caused you but at least you can now do something positive with it. Thank you for sharing!
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
There is a link in the description for the original from 1938.
@latonyasmith683
@latonyasmith683 5 лет назад
HELLO THERE GOAT ! I'm proud of you! Love from the USA!
@Rupunzelsawake
@Rupunzelsawake 5 лет назад
"We have to hide our wrongdoing and bad behaviour from the eyes of men so we don't bring reproach on Jehovahs name". But it isn't hidden from God's eyes. "God is not one to be mocked"...who do they think they are kidding?
@TooRandomForYou
@TooRandomForYou 5 лет назад
Nice Video, you put everything into this one! They say us Ex-JWs have no heart, however you demonstrated your care by mentioning the Russian Sisters.
@crystaladdy2155
@crystaladdy2155 4 года назад
Thank you for saying the truth. The testimony was so sad it at put tears in my eyes, traumatize me to know about this. So sad to hear about our Brothers and sisters, suffering in silence.
@rajanogray9088
@rajanogray9088 5 лет назад
Wow! I can see the emotion in your face when talking about the Russians. It is indeed wrong to make fun of depression. It hit me like a ton of bricks when you said "They sent him home so he could kill himself in his own congregation."
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Thats the exact Word they used, but I hope they ment it as a really bad joke. I know for a fact he was sendt home and killed himself. But I trust they did something to help him.
@marcalampi5036
@marcalampi5036 5 лет назад
@@GoatlikePersonality my brother who's an elder now told me about several suicides in the old Brooklyn Bethel, also I was wrongly disfellowshipped based upon lies. Furthermore I was the victim all of the way, my brother the elder told me they got rid of my records every where to hide the watchtowers wrong doing in my case. I'm thankful to God I myself woke up. Your very right not enough love in the watchtower organization.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
@@marcalampi5036 Its sad really… the witnesses would deserve a better cult.
@marcalampi5036
@marcalampi5036 5 лет назад
@@GoatlikePersonality by the way, I absolutely did nothing wrong at all, and I got disfellowshipped. I was way beyond shock. I'd Prayed Jah 8 feel like Job. I can't believe it took me so many years to wake up. Also I can understand why a lot of ex JWs no longer believe in the Bible or a God.
@gbnomore3918
@gbnomore3918 5 лет назад
You're totally right regarding making fun of depression. Cedars just put out a video on that also: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WL0HNwC6CU4.html
@melodymakingmelodies4896
@melodymakingmelodies4896 4 года назад
I am crying like a baby. Their goal is to hurt people. What a selfish organization. They just wanted control. It’s so crazy, once you’re out and you start to look back and reflect on your experiences you realize just how wonky the organization really is. You have to stop and ask yourself what was I thinking. Why didn’t I just walk away For some reason we’re so brainwashed we stay. I’m so happy to be free of this cult. You have a strong voice. I couldn’t understand a word but I like the sound of it.
@pauljoyquilter359
@pauljoyquilter359 5 лет назад
Loved your heartfelt expressions and honesty. These are emotions sadly lacking in the JW Corp.
@doreenchantre7270
@doreenchantre7270 5 лет назад
You are awesome :) Just keep doing what your doing and don't let anyone get in your way. Love the song.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Thanks for noticing ;-)
@prodigalAli
@prodigalAli 5 лет назад
😨😰😔🤗🤗🤗 you are a good person. You are still spreading joy
@heatherwoods4012
@heatherwoods4012 3 года назад
I grew up a JW in the U.S. and was active for many years. I left the organization due to a lack of love. Although I am out now, I just recently discovered the Ex JW community on you tube. I cried with you watching this video. Thank you for sharing your honest experiences with us all. They are a helpful and enlightening.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 3 года назад
Glad you liked it. :-)
@EveSieminski
@EveSieminski 5 лет назад
I have said this more than once, watchtower threw away and is continuing to throw away their most talented and big hearted people they have. You are among them. Shame on this wicked organization and it’s disgusting leaders.
@theresaakins2317
@theresaakins2317 4 года назад
Chloe, I have said that too, they do get rid of the most humble, kindest and most intelligent witnesses (just like Scientology does!)
@Truthseeker-og6fk
@Truthseeker-og6fk 3 года назад
Thank you for your story, it moved me so much. What a lovely person you are. I'm so sorry for your experience as a young man. I'm 49 and have just realised I'm I've been in a cult. Please keep your videos coming and I wish you well for a happy future
@deborah3071
@deborah3071 4 года назад
So happy you had the insight to know something was wrong and your here sharing your story to uplift people like me who also wanted to end my life after being disfellowshiped. Keeping spreading joy. I loved your song.
@HJockers66
@HJockers66 5 лет назад
thank you so much for sharing so frankly, what a genuine person you are. Glad you didn´t edit out your tears ...... Sending much love from a fellow ex jw German , never been on a Bethel build but KH quick builds many in the 90s while pioneering. Hi from Jakarta.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Thank you Brother 😊. I made the video in one shot and it was the first take. I wish I had the time to make several takes and edit... But I have a business to run aswell. So I Just posted the whole shabang, tears and everything. 😁 Glad you like it. If you are in Germany... Maybe you can come to the Copehagen protest this year? I will buy you a beer.
@radarada7954
@radarada7954 Год назад
I can't stop listening to you! Thank you for what you're doing, please continue!
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality Год назад
More to come!
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 5 лет назад
I also heard stories of Bethelites committing suicide. I was in total shock by the end of your story. It’s both heartbreaking and infuriating to hear about this brother who was sent home. I’m glad you are still with us, I really am. I have a JW friend who is constantly fighting suicidal thoughts. In one of our conversations I told him “Don’t you dare kill yourself! If you do, I’ll resurrect you just to beat the crap outta you!” It seemed to work, LOL!
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 5 лет назад
@Skjeren Kristjenson - Great minds think alike.
@stasacab
@stasacab 5 лет назад
Wonderful! I so remember that time! I was not in the Russian Bethel, but I know everyone went there as if it was a Mecca or something and I was in the St. Petersburg convention and the JWs were so racist and they would not touch Russian food, because it was contaminated. I ate it and it was good and tasty and never got anything from it. I was also a convert, so I can relate to all of this finding out that it was not a spiritual paradise. More like spiritual hell.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Moi Moi Stacy. Jag førsøker komma i kontakt med exjw från Finland. Specielt før att koordinera #allreligionsmust protester i samtliga skandinaviska land. Eventuelt bara inbjuda til vår protest i Køpenhamn i Juli. Om du ær medlem av finska exjw grupper så får du mycket gjærna næmna vår kampanj och vår protest. Paljon kiitoksia
@valeriavagapova
@valeriavagapova 5 лет назад
Just curious, what were they eating then? Did they actually bring all the food from other countries?! As a St.Petersburg native who had eaten in many not-so-fancy places throughout my life, I can say that, surprisingly, I actually never experienced any negative consequences lol, same goes for most people I know. Food from Soviet-style cafeterias was obviously far from exquisite or gourmet, but very rarely contaminated or unsafe.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
@@valeriavagapova They trusted the food served in the bethel restaurant. I personaly love russian food. 😁
@stasacab
@stasacab 5 лет назад
@@valeriavagapova Beryozhka-type food: exported snacks by multinational companies, unless they brought food with them.
@matilda4406
@matilda4406 5 лет назад
Wow! ,, "please don't laugh, this is Bethel", "Help me, something's wrong"!
@reece1929
@reece1929 4 года назад
One day I hope to be able to meet you. May you and your beautiful goats have a wonderful and safe weekend. Take care of yourself.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 4 года назад
Welcome any day 🤠🇧🇻
@patrickespinoza
@patrickespinoza 5 лет назад
Let me show you the song of my people, Hahaha! Best part. Great video and stories. Wishes that you get everything you need from life.
@storrmywx
@storrmywx 4 года назад
Thank you so much for sharing this. I love all your videos :-)
@pauljoyquilter359
@pauljoyquilter359 5 лет назад
We have just started our own RU-vid channel - Paul & Joy Quilter - so that we can add our voices to the global “apostate” effort.
@MrChinchilla_hn
@MrChinchilla_hn 5 лет назад
👏👏👏 go ahead it deserves the fight.
@jwsuicides8095
@jwsuicides8095 5 лет назад
@Paul & Joy Quilter checking you out and subscribing.
@claudiaherrera2224
@claudiaherrera2224 4 года назад
I am so deeply moved by your honesty and expression of emotion, something that watch tower does not approve apparently being human, showing concern and express feelings is " lack of self control" and brings reproach to their god. You are amazing, great video and what a decent human being you are.
@stevewalker2962
@stevewalker2962 5 лет назад
Such a powerful, touching video. Thanx for sharing this with us.
@marie-clairedelongchamp1330
@marie-clairedelongchamp1330 5 лет назад
First time viewer! What a handsome, caring, & compassionate individual you are! Brought me to tears 😢. However, despite all the $#*% you endured, as we all did, you still sing! 🎶. ( been out 1 whole year now!). Loved the song, you sing well. Will definitely subscribe. Thank you for just being YOU! 🇨🇦
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Thanx Sis 😊
@marie-clairedelongchamp1330
@marie-clairedelongchamp1330 5 лет назад
Goatlike Personality 🥰
@marie-clairedelongchamp1330
@marie-clairedelongchamp1330 5 лет назад
Skjeren Kristjenson thank you for the encouragement, it’s going to get a whole lot more bumpy in the next year to come! However I’m stronger than I ever imagined, have my voice back & forging ahead! 😊
@marie-clairedelongchamp1330
@marie-clairedelongchamp1330 5 лет назад
Skjeren Kristjenson Geat big Thank you! 😁☺️
@rebeccalogan8446
@rebeccalogan8446 5 лет назад
Wow. Amazing story. Thank you so very much for sharing what is obviously so painful for you.
@debbiejenest6205
@debbiejenest6205 5 лет назад
You are a beautiful Soul and I love your laugh!!!
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Thanx
@donna1422
@donna1422 4 года назад
Thank you for this ❤️ I feel very saddened thinking of all of the people still in who are so very unhappy. I wish I could help them all.
@clarity2478
@clarity2478 5 лет назад
GP you are one of a kind! Amazing personality that is so kind and yet so strong. Thanks for revealing the real truth in your neck of the woods, a bit different in Canada where I live, but the watchtower lies are the same! Never lose your funny sense of humour. Cheers!
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Skål 😁
@clarity2478
@clarity2478 5 лет назад
@@GoatlikePersonality...now I have no idea what skal is but I'm guessing hello? :- D
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
@@clarity2478 You said: Cheers! and I answered; Skål!
@rebeccakrupp1804
@rebeccakrupp1804 5 лет назад
Wow, you are such a gifted story teller! (and muscician) Thank you for sharing! Love from Canada!
@constancehoffman1261
@constancehoffman1261 4 года назад
I grew up in South Dakota, USA, got married, had babies, got depressed, became a JW, which, after initial ecstasy, led to more depression. My brain was starving! Since I left--some 20 years ago--I've traveled, studied languages--including Russian--and joined a band that plays at nursing homes. I feel appreciated, and I'm now content.
@Anna-xm7nl
@Anna-xm7nl 5 лет назад
Beautiful voice and song. I just kept listening to your song over and over again.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Thanx Angie. If you come to the Copenhagen protest, we can do a duett. :-)
@derekohare1824
@derekohare1824 5 лет назад
So talented. you were to good for them. So glad you escaped. Stay strong. Derek
@mayblay7476
@mayblay7476 4 года назад
I don't understand the words but I like the rhythm, it's nice. You have a great voice. Stay bless.
@annamurillo717
@annamurillo717 4 года назад
Oh Dear Brother,. Your heart is so pure and humble I am so happy that you survived that place. I have heard many bethel stories but your story made me see so clearly that the w.t is in fact a cult. I can't believe that they made you leave for trying to be happy. I am so grateful that they did not destroy your joyful spirit, at least not permanently.. Keep laughing Brother your Joy is infectious! I Love watching your videos and when you laugh I can't help but laugh too 😄😄
@bryancooper5180
@bryancooper5180 5 лет назад
You are a very cool human being. I really appreciate how you did not let your ego get in the way of exposing yourself to all of us in a very deep emotional way. I was not planning on watching the whole 40 minutes but your story was so gripping I could not turn it off. Thank you. The type of highly charged and tense environment you were in which was also married with the superficial appearance that everything is actually calm and not tense at all would be emotionally very draining I'm sure. This is why a drinking culture seems to be in vogue with many bethelites and of course, we know now even with the governing body themselves. This is like being on a train going full speed down a steep grade but the brakes are being applied! It's not long before all the passengers inside start to feel very tense, reactive and fearful as the terrible sound of metal screeching, sparks flying, rumbling vibration is evident but meanwhile, there is soft relaxing music playing over the speakers. But you were so right in your one sentence summation..."There is no love". This is so true. The love is simply gone from the organization on every level top to bottom. It might have all been an illusion that there ever was real love from the beginning. Best wishes to you. You have an exceptional singing voice by the way! Wow!!
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Thanx
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
@bryan Cooper That was a very good illustration.
@CS-np2oo
@CS-np2oo 5 лет назад
Stumbled across your channel looking at other former JW videos. I wish you the best in life and your endeavors. You have an extremely candid, honest and well-meaning personality that shows a REAL heart. 👏👍💪
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Thank you. And I hope you are among the 144.000 subscribers. My lion video will come up soon.
@CS-np2oo
@CS-np2oo 5 лет назад
@@GoatlikePersonality I certainly am now !
@stasacab
@stasacab 5 лет назад
About placing literature. I did never place that much literature in St. Petersburg area, they were like "I would not read it". I did not look like mafia, though. However, up in the same oblast and before Bethel, I placed many tracts and people just tore the crapts out of my hand. Then I went to Vyborg and there were beggars selling the tracts I had just placed, making cross signs and saying, I am a Christian, spare some change.
@melodygreen1053
@melodygreen1053 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. Listening to the different ones from other countries helps me see the borg treats, or rather mistreats, everyone pretty much the same at the various bethel branches. Unfortunately. You have such a kind, humble and friendly manner about you. I’ve watched your videos for quite a while, but being pimo I haven’t really commented much. Sending greetings and agape from the USA.
@april8081
@april8081 4 года назад
You are AWESOME. I love your humor. I too was born into the org and all your stories make me laugh and cringe simultaneously. Your stories are sad but true! The realness of your stories come through so clearly. I wish I could meet you. I appreciate your information. Keep it coming.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 4 года назад
Welcome to Norway any time 😊 like and subscribe
@april8081
@april8081 4 года назад
@@GoatlikePersonality Yes, I did
@catmeow333
@catmeow333 4 года назад
I enjoyed this video Goatie, even as I cried with you 35:00 I too try to spread joy and find humor to ease the pain. I was very touched by your story of the Reverse Tower of Babel and the Russian sisters. How typical for that abusive bunch to put the blame on them for clinking bottles. You are correct, the man who cleaned his brother was a true Christian. You bring a spirit of love and a smile to many, many people. Please know that you are a powerful force of kindness to us who know sadness. 😻
@jwsuicides8095
@jwsuicides8095 5 лет назад
OK, I'm commenting as I go along. It's heartbreaking to hear you lived in your car while pioneering. I've had friends suffering with homelessness - always really done the best I could to help (though never enough). Really. We worked it out the best we could. It's never been enough but very important that we all try and contribute. You'll know that so many little things about providing baths, laundry facilities, an electricity charge-up for phones, etc, are so important and helpful. Unconditional help. If you're pioneering in a congregation then you had the absolute right to be supported in order to live with dignity and quality of life. I may have further comments as you speak but...dammit...there could be NO way you would be left alone without the basics.
@konso1
@konso1 4 года назад
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences! This was very eye-opening 😱
@JayZoop
@JayZoop 5 лет назад
Thank you for sharing your unique experience.
@lostinspacepimo2969
@lostinspacepimo2969 5 лет назад
You have such a great delivery of your message, Very enjoyable. All new insight about Russia and your experience. I do so hope you are happy now.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
I am happy. Life is great. I would like to have friends but I dont need friends. If that makes any sence. I hope you are among the 144.000 subscribers.
@39yuffie
@39yuffie 5 лет назад
I'm glad to hear a little about your backstory. :)
@augustbruce
@augustbruce 4 года назад
Nostrovia!------for your articulate, sincere presentation
@mn7607
@mn7607 5 лет назад
I am sorry but, this whole table arrangement with the elder directing traffic was about control. I am so over this it’s unreal. I really appreciate listening to you today. I needed this. TY.🌎
@Rupunzelsawake
@Rupunzelsawake 5 лет назад
Love the music and singing!!
@constancehoffman1261
@constancehoffman1261 4 года назад
Bravo! Loved your song!! (I already commented but had to add that. You might want to do more music videos!)
@donnaml8776
@donnaml8776 4 года назад
Jonas, thank you so much for this video. It helps me understand a lot about what happened while I was in Greece at the Bethel home construction. I was married at the time. He was a very abusive man. So being at the Bethel construction and the abuses that came with that and from my husband it lead me to a nervous breakdown. He had been at Bethel - Watchtower Farms before we were married. We first went to Argentina for a year, and that was hard but no where near as bad as it was in Greece. We were in Greece for 2 years. There were many from Germany, England, and a few other countries in Europe and Scandinavia with just a handful of Americans. Many of the things you mentioned here happened there and I remember feeling as if I let Jehovah and his organization down. Also 2 brothers died there. One brother from England in a car accident and the other was a young German brother who fell through a whole in the floor on the site. It was so terrible. Your video helped me have a better understanding of some of the things that happened there that I never understood while I was there. Thank you so much for sharing.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 4 года назад
Yeah... Its a weird life on bethel
@aimskimoskwa3867
@aimskimoskwa3867 3 года назад
Your Videos make me chuckle :)
@jonivalkila6382
@jonivalkila6382 5 лет назад
This video is legendary! I'm not sure I can believe your story about eating beetles but the rest of it is very believable unfortunately. Great song! Hälsningar från Finland. Tack så mycket.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Jag åt mycket konstiga insekter när jag var pionjär. Och på sammankomst i Strängnäs var det en rakkare som satte sig fast i halsen och börja de klättra upp. Mardrömmar skapas sådan.
@jonivalkila6382
@jonivalkila6382 5 лет назад
@@GoatlikePersonality I guess you were ahead of your time! Eating insects has only recently become a more popular idea!
@wop60
@wop60 4 года назад
I think you are the best guy I have never met!! Greetings from the sunny Italy!!
@bananapeaches6370
@bananapeaches6370 3 года назад
I wondered if you'd been in Finland. That's where all my relatives live. My father's side are mostly JW. One that left, was shunned, and subsequently drank himself to death :( You are a really great person. Thanks for sharing your stories xx greetings from a fellow Nord in Australia
@ThePainterr
@ThePainterr 4 года назад
I always love hearing about the dxperiences of those that served in full time service. I myself served as a regular pioneer, construction worker building Kingdom halls all over in Southern Africa and of vourss Special Pioneering whilst being an Elder. Your uncle sounded just like my mum who gave the advice to adjust to "low expectations" because witnesses and "worldly people" are both as imperfect as each other, the only difference is that the witnesses had the Kingdom hope (?).....and such like advice. Very intetesting observations though....thanks for sharing!
@anettebruvold3909
@anettebruvold3909 4 года назад
Du måste sjunga mer :) Really good performance. I laughed and cried. Being from Norway I understand Swedish
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 4 года назад
Heia Norge. Jeg bor jo på fosen. Min andre kanal heter "norwegian hillbilly"
@jwsuicides8095
@jwsuicides8095 5 лет назад
Ooh, just started on this video and I'm finding it heartbreaking. I wanted to serve at HQs etc but there was no place for someone as sick and disabled as myself (thinking of your wife). It would all have been so different had we had access to the Elders' Handbook. Such a lack of care. I was learning about 'da troof' while living and working in Sweden/Norway/Finland so I REALLY appreciate your insights. Thank you - it helps so much.
@gataheart
@gataheart 4 года назад
Beloved! Loved your music. Would be great to have it to look forward to.
@newlight30
@newlight30 5 лет назад
dear brother , i left in 1972 but have never lost my faith in jehovah or his son christ jesus.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Good for you. 😁
@karenkellogg5492
@karenkellogg5492 5 лет назад
That is how I feel too. Learning of Jehovah and Jesus in the beginning was the draw for me; and I still know Jehovah is there.
@newlight30
@newlight30 5 лет назад
@@karenkellogg5492 jehovah remains the almighty and jesus is our savoir. the leaders have abused their power, and many are waking up. but i know many have lost their faith because of their actions.but i encourage to remain firm in their faith.
@jc10907Sealy
@jc10907Sealy 3 года назад
I love Jehovah, I honor and love the kindness of Christ Jesus. I got out from the vicious JW system. I saw it get worse over 52 years.
@_Churchy
@_Churchy 5 лет назад
Jonas, thank you for sharing your stories. Thank you for being kind. Don't change 👍
@heidibughi782
@heidibughi782 4 года назад
Love your personality... better laugh then cry. Your videos are awesome
@xannamaex
@xannamaex 5 лет назад
I am an X JW . I really enjoyed your Bethel stories, and you are a true brother of Love, ALL THAT IS. When I was an active JW, I knew something was not right. I always loved the brothers and sisters. Most were sincere seekers of truth. You are certainly one of them 💓 I visualize the time when all sincere JWs and X -JWs gladly say their “farewells” to this misguided organization as its walls go tumbling down with the rest of the world’s religions. I can visualize the sincere ones reuniting in the name of LOVE, at all of the abandoned kingdom halls, renaming them “The Gathering Place”where they are Free from fear, free to share, and free to laugh.
@Lee.Freeman
@Lee.Freeman 5 лет назад
Fantastic video. You are a very good man Jonas. My baseline is also jovial and I can so relate. Great closing song ... oh those Russians.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
We would both be fired from Solnetjnoje. (russian bethel)
@Lee.Freeman
@Lee.Freeman 5 лет назад
I only spent a few weeks at Sydney Bethel but my pioneer partner recieved a dishonourable discharge (in the mid 70's) for playing too many practical jokes - short sheeting people's beds, things like that. Of course no obe in the congregation know why he came home early, having served only three years of his four year contract so he was welcomed as a hero. But he confided his doubts to me and his prayers were quite casual and disrespectful after that (g'day Jehovah, hope your son is doing ok, things like that). Bruce is stull a witness and currently trying his best to become an elder ... a man needs goals I guess 🍺
@joanferguson4194
@joanferguson4194 4 года назад
This video was really insightful, realistic and very sad. I too was a happy cheerful person believing that Jehovah was best served by facing life with good humour, honesty and true Christian love. All I ever got was being gossiped about because I also was “ easy on the eyes”as the saying goes. Found out that the sisters in my hall hated me for all of what I was. Thought I wasn’t good enough, so I tried harder. Then it slowly dawned on me “there’s something wrong about this religion and these people”. I now believe without a doubt that it’s not simply human imperfections that’s to blame... that’s how the Watchtower excuses vile and unchristian behaviour. I now view most of the JWs I knew as the vilest people I’ve ever known. Only a tiny minority were decent but these too stick to the org’s tyranny. If you are a caring, sensitive and honest hearted person you are going to suffer in that cult. In fact those very qualities will drive you out because you can’t take the abuse any longer. Your story is very moving and you are a powerful testament to the saying: ”When you’re going through hell, kept going!” I left decades ago, but the sense of righteous anger against this poisonous atrocity of a cult has never dimmed. Watching this video had me choked up. I share your grief because I was, like you, too good for my own good. It was all wasted and offered to swine. So glad I walked away from it, went to collage and had a career. Thanks for all you do. Your raw honest humanity is a gift! And BTW... powerful singing voice! 😮👍
@Lovealwayswins1
@Lovealwayswins1 3 года назад
Love you thank you for you help! God bless you! Hope you can find the truth that really sets us free
@cathfidelis
@cathfidelis 5 лет назад
Sending love from Tanzania, thanks for sharing your story it keeps the movement strong
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Thanks Catherine. Like and subscribe
@KN-mq9ce
@KN-mq9ce 5 лет назад
Mambo pua or salamu dada wangu, I hope I am not butchering the Kiswahili language.
@cathfidelis
@cathfidelis 5 лет назад
@@KN-mq9ce that is so amazing not bad, hope you didn't serve in a foreign language or where the need is great
@KN-mq9ce
@KN-mq9ce 5 лет назад
@@cathfidelis 😂😂 No I am just in love with the Swahili language, I was hoping Muammar Gadaffi's dream of making Swahili an African official language to succeed . I am from South Africa and I have couple of Congolese friends and they speak Swahili. But I have to say Kenyan and Tanzanian sounds much nicer.
@NIL0S
@NIL0S 2 года назад
I'm an expat living in Finland. I was born and raised as a JW, but I luckily never got baptized. I can totally see why that place was a bit of a cultural powderkeg. Finns really don't like Russians, either, also because of historical reasons, same as with the Swedes, I guess. But about the alcohol, it's a bit of an universal problem, my dad, an ex elder, had and still has massive drinking problems. It's how people cope, because they aren't really allowed any other outlet or professional help. I had to carry away the bottles to the collection spot in our family, and it was several ikea bags full of wine and beer bottles *every week*. I once neglected to clear the empties, and my dad called me a lazy sack of ****. This really damaged me, to this day I am an overachiever at work and burnout is a real risk for me, because I need to constantly prove to myself that I am not what I was called by my dad. He was an elder for a couple of years, until his issues probably caught up with him. I wouldn't know, because I escaped the cult and anything about it as soon I could. It was so easy to emigrate from my homecountry, because I had nothing to lose.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 2 года назад
I love Finland and I sometimes refere to myself as Finish even if I am Swedish. But I must admit I had hostile emotions agains Finns after the experience in Russland. I got over it thou… but I was very traumatic. I hope to go to Finland soon.
@NIL0S
@NIL0S 2 года назад
@@GoatlikePersonality I only have a studio apartment and very little money (I'm a student at the moment), but if you ever need a couch to sleep on in , you are welcome 🤗
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 2 года назад
@@NIL0S Jag var i Torneo för några år sedan. Trevlig stad och inte så långt till Sverige.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 5 лет назад
Uncle Goatlike’s Bethel Advice: 1. Never ask for permission because you might get a note. 2. Learn to work the system to your benefit. 3. Never *EVER* trust Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
@larrysommer3350
@larrysommer3350 5 лет назад
you might get a no
@ssdsd5394
@ssdsd5394 5 лет назад
4 leave no chance of a second witness to #3 😉
@gbnomore3918
@gbnomore3918 5 лет назад
@@ssdsd5394 5. Drink
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation 5 лет назад
Enduring to the end Will mean one can be saved Enduring cheesecake, It did not say I would not think it would be nice anyway.
@ssdsd5394
@ssdsd5394 5 лет назад
@@compositioncompilation What do you mean? Saved from what exactly? And can you prove it with an argument that's not critically flawed in some way?
@liplockednomore
@liplockednomore 3 года назад
I'm so happy you're free! Me too. You break my heart ❤. I'm tenderhearted as well.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 3 года назад
Thanx for leaving so many comments. It helps the channel grow 😊
@OscarWithC
@OscarWithC 5 лет назад
Goatlike Personality your personality is beautiful to see your emotions , your tears talking about the misstreatment of the russians by the so called ''gods organisation'' makes me truly see that you are a good person! keep doing what your doing many benefit from this videos that talk about the JW organisation.
@RitaMalikfour
@RitaMalikfour 5 лет назад
Hi I came back, I forgot to sub, there are not many men like you , I’ll be watching, thank you for the honesty , very appreciated
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
I am glad you liked the. Dont be afraid to reach out to your local comunity for help. There is not much I can do from Norway. But if you found Jesus, you might also find a group of Jesus groupies ready to help you. Dont give up, Just take one thing at the time.
@dcfarmer-in-waiting4587
@dcfarmer-in-waiting4587 5 лет назад
Ukulele playing and singing. I LOVED THIS VIDEO. thanks for sharing.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Whats a farmer i waiting? Sounds boring
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
I am glad you loved the video, and hope you dont have to wait to long to start farming.
@zarabella10
@zarabella10 5 лет назад
Goats, humor, drama and now beautiful singing. You are full of surprises.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Glad you liked it.
@esio7869
@esio7869 5 лет назад
We (me and my wife) where there for almost all of our life. Good for You, that You are out alredy. We wish You the best! (Sorry for my english, I'm from Poland)
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
Dzięki Erni. Mówię trochę po polsku. Moja żona pochodziła z Gdańska i lubię jeździć do Polski.
@esio7869
@esio7869 5 лет назад
Pozdrawiamy serdecznie z żoną ...
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 лет назад
@@esio7869 Moja żona zostawił mnie
@39yuffie
@39yuffie 5 лет назад
I hope your baby goat is well.
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