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Russians are NOT Slavs? 

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Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the SLAVest of them all? Definitely not Russians. At least, that's what some people say on the Internet. For some reason, there is a very popular belief that modern people living in Russia have almost no connection to Slavic tribes and therefore cannot be called Slavs. In this video I will present to you the arguments of the proponents of this theory and together we will try to figure out if they are right.
Recently, there have been numerous publications circulating on the Internet in which, with reference to "the most recent genetic studies," it is reported as a sensation that scientists have proved that Russians are not Slavs, but Slavicized Finns and Turks. No names of the scientists are given, nor any references, other than a vague "this is reported by the media". The father of this whole "Russians are not Slavs" is the Polish ethnographer and historian, Franciszek Duchinsky. In Russian historiography he is more often referred to as a "Polish ultranationalist" rather than as an ethnographer. He considered the revival of the Polish Slavic state as the only hope for protecting Europe from the "Turanian tribes. He considered the Belarusians and Ukrainians to be the real Russians, and the "Moskals" allegedly took from them the history of their state and appropriated the name "Russia". This theory found many admirers among the Polish intelligentsia of the mid-19th century, and now it is once again resurfaced mostly in Ukraine. Let's see if there was logic in Franciszek's words.
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Hey there. Somehow you found my video and decided to watch it. So let me introduce myself. I'm Sergei and I'm from Russia. My channel is about my native country. I want to tell English-speaking viewers about the real Russia, about its past and present. Unfortunately, you can find a lot of propaganda about Russia on the Internet, both from the Russian media and from the Western ones. I want to tell you about Russia, as it really is, the country in which I was born, grew up, and lived all my life.
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Комментарии : 4,5 тыс.   
@edinev5766
@edinev5766 2 года назад
Russia : So some have said we're not actually Slavic. Bulgaria : First time?
@ablorenz
@ablorenz 2 года назад
Bulgarians are usually called Turkic, Mongols, and Asian by many Slavs. Bulgarians have a Turkic origin - they descend from the Bulgars, who were not Slavs, at all. They also have a lot of Turkish blood from the Ottoman occupation, and are dark-skinned, and do not really look Slavic. Bulgaria also has a large Gypsy population, which led to mixing of Bulgarians with Gypsies too. Also, about 15% of Bulgaria's population is made up of ethnic Turks - most of whom are Muslims.
@ZeLeninovoMasoveRizoto
@ZeLeninovoMasoveRizoto 2 года назад
Hehe, Tataři
@chibiromano5631
@chibiromano5631 2 года назад
*laughs in Tocharian
@bigger_mibber6029
@bigger_mibber6029 2 года назад
Bulgarians are not slavs
@ablorenz
@ablorenz 2 года назад
@Fact: Islam is wrongBulgarians are originally Turks, and had nothing to do with Slavs. They arrived from northeast Mongolia and Central Asia to Russia - and then into the Balkans.
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 2 года назад
Saying that Russian isn't a Slavic language because Russians can't understand Polish or Czech is like saying that English isn't a Germanic language because Britons and Americans can't understand German and Dutch.
@ievgend87
@ievgend87 2 года назад
But English speakers can understand Norwegian. And no one understands the Danes.
@someguy4512
@someguy4512 2 года назад
@@ievgend87 uhhh I can understand english yet can't understand Norwegian what your saying?
@hicknopunk
@hicknopunk 2 года назад
If you know english, learning german is easy.
@user-p6-3561
@user-p6-3561 2 года назад
Bruh if you know Russian understand Polish is very easy
@antianti4331
@antianti4331 2 года назад
But Russians can understand Polish. Although I have never learnt it, I can understand around 70% and the general topic which is discussed. It's all because we have a lot of words which sound similar.
@arsgoetiashlomoh8303
@arsgoetiashlomoh8303 2 года назад
The fact this argument still exists is both funny and sad
@Dimetropteryx
@Dimetropteryx 2 года назад
I'd call these arguments pathetic and stupid.
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 2 года назад
I feel uncomfortable, that Setarko even felt a need to approach that nonsense.
@Norwaymofo
@Norwaymofo 2 года назад
Fanatic Nationalists people are just insane people Like someone from turkey who have tested his DNA and turn out he's 80% greek and he almost kill himself lol
@tingleblade4274
@tingleblade4274 2 года назад
The Vatican "sages" whispered arguments to our Polish brothers in the late Middle Ages. It is unlikely that they would have thought of such a thing themselves, not our Slavic style.
@Nobody32990
@Nobody32990 2 года назад
@@ablorenz considering Russias expansionist tendencies (since Duchinsky's time in fact) and past experiance of Poles and Ukrainians, would you blame them?
@vladimir945
@vladimir945 2 года назад
"You are some Finno-Ugric people mixed with the Mongols" - and even if this was true, which part am I supposed to be ashamed of?
@devenscience8894
@devenscience8894 2 года назад
exactly. This whole "who's the pure Slav" thing is just white pride wrapped around ethnicities instead of color.
@jackster2568
@jackster2568 2 года назад
@@ablorenz says the frog. Isn't your head supposed to be rolling around the boulevard, François?
@ablorenz
@ablorenz 2 года назад
@@jackster2568 Besides, Russians are and will forever be the most superior among Slavs in every field, and one of the only people among them, that can be respected, considering history and achievements.
@CDA138ek
@CDA138ek 2 года назад
It never was about shaming. It was a reaction of Slavic nations to Russian panslavism under their boot.
@ablorenz
@ablorenz 2 года назад
@@ms6149 Ukraine, was a part of Russia, for 4 centuries. That's not a short time. Its eastern and southeastern parts are mainly Russian-speaking; and Ukraine is very Russified. Its just the truth; and that you cannot handle.
@Stashix
@Stashix 2 года назад
"Czechs and Poles understand each other without problems" Yeah...
@bandit9667
@bandit9667 2 года назад
Mhm
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 2 года назад
So do Russians and Ukrainians or Russians and Belarusians. So do Serb and Croats. Mutual understanding among each of the branches (Wester, Eastern, Southern) is bigger than in between the branches. And it is not "without problems", but relatively easy.
@Mira-K
@Mira-K 2 года назад
The 100% real fact that a Pole looking for his girlfriend might be understood by Czechs as boasting about banging a hooker in the toilet..
@slavsya
@slavsya 2 года назад
@@Martina-Kosicanka honestly I have easier time understanding Macedonian and Bulgarian than i do with Ukrainian...yes I am a Russian
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 2 года назад
@@slavsya Interesting. I have a hard time understadning Southern Slavs, but I wasn´t really expose to their langages for enough of time.
@fgjjdgb3949
@fgjjdgb3949 2 года назад
American commander: Damn it, I was sent to defend the United States, but how am I going to fight if half my unit isn't American! The first Canadian, the second Pole, the third Japanese, the fourth Briton, the fifth Vietnamese, and the sixth Russian commune. Oh, completely forgot about the one, which is both Russian and Asian. Soldier: Sir, it's Kazakh.
@WeebMrClean
@WeebMrClean 2 года назад
Kazakhstan is literally EURASIAN.
@ghostttriddder
@ghostttriddder 2 года назад
8 nation army peking
@radziwill7193
@radziwill7193 2 года назад
Sir, the Kazakhs were invented by Soviet Union, in fact its Kyrgyz.
@Neversa
@Neversa 2 года назад
Kazakhs are not Russian tho
@Neversa
@Neversa 2 года назад
@@radziwill7193 Kazakh Khanate was established in 1465, 450 years before the USSR. We're related to Kyrgyz closely, but we're not the same. Back in 1827, A. I. Lyovshin argued that "the Kyrgyz is the name of a completely different people ... the name "Kasak" ... belongs to the Kyrgyz-Kaisak hordes from the beginning of their existence, they do not call themselves otherwise." In the book of the Russian ethnographer and geographer EK Meyendorff "A Journey from Orenburg to Bukhara", written at the beginning of the 19th century, it is noted that "they [Kazakhs] do not call themselves Kirghiz, but call themselves "Khassakhs", which means" horseman "- according to some, "warrior" - in the opinion of others. They claim that the Bashkirs call them Kyrgyz, but they do not know where this word came from. "
@mehanikal5639
@mehanikal5639 2 года назад
Every Slavic nation mixed with non-Slavic people. There are no pure Slavs.
@SanctusBacchus
@SanctusBacchus 2 года назад
A stupid thing to say.
@ZeLeninovoMasoveRizoto
@ZeLeninovoMasoveRizoto 2 года назад
@@SanctusBacchus but true on a national level.
@Neversa
@Neversa 2 года назад
Hungarians are more Slavic than Russians
@greggemerer8251
@greggemerer8251 2 года назад
@@SanctusBacchus Its actually quite true. Slavs as an ethnic group emerged from somewhere in west/central Ukraine, Belarus, and eastern Poland, and then moved quickly to the east, north east, west, and southwest. In all directions except for the far west(eastern, central and northern Germany), they encountered very different ethnic groups with whom they mixed: in the Balkans (the South Slavs: Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, Macedonians, and to some extent the Slovenes) it was with the Illyrians and other Dinaric types, to the east and northeast (Belorussians and Russians) it was with Finnic peoples, and in the west, southwest, and south (Poles, Slovaks, Czechs, Ukrainians and Bulgarians) , it was with Turkic people, such as the Avars, Bulgars, Pechenegs, and Polovtsy. Paradoxically, it is only those who migrated to the extreme west and northwest, into eastern, central and northern Germany, who retained something of the original Slav appearance, though with time almost all of these West Slavs, except for the Sorbs, came to speak German and assimilated into the German nation - so that one may say with some truth that it is the Germans who most resemble the original Slavs. At the present time, it is more precise to think of the Slavs as being linked by closely related languages, rather than by ethno-racial linkages, which, for example, in the case of Russians or Poles on one side, and the Balkan Slavs on the other, are rather weak. To reiterate, it is probably the Sorbs or Lusatians (also known as Wends to the Germans), who most closely and evenly resemble what the Slavs probably looked like when they first appeared out of their swampy East European heimat. A good source on this is the physical anthropologist Carleton Coon.
@wilhelma.3301
@wilhelma.3301 2 года назад
@@Neversa ? Are you stupid? Hungarians roots goes back to finnland
@SogoNotDrunk
@SogoNotDrunk Год назад
When someone said Russians is not slavic people. but a finno-ugric and turkic, it's a way better and easier to say "Yeah, and?". After this question around 100% people who said Russian is not Slavic release their true face of xenophobic racists, who thinking Turkic and Finno-Ugric people are some asiatic hordes and barbarians, lol.
@kopatelonline
@kopatelonline Год назад
Попи3ди тут, ксенофобия-xуйобия, расизм. Нам поебать кто вы там по крови, главное то, что 80% славян в рашке - это потомки депортированных из Украины\Беларуси\Польши люди. То как вы вывозите наших детей из Мариуполя и других городов уже всему миру показал ваше нутро и ваши "настоящие славянские корни", чмo, и это единственная причина, почему вас rightfully считают варварами.
@kc4276
@kc4276 Год назад
I’m not Russian (or Slavic or any other kind of European), but I’ve heard some Slavic nationalities say this exact thing - and I was always left speechless because of the underlying racial hatred towards asiatic peoples.
@SogoNotDrunk
@SogoNotDrunk Год назад
@@kc4276 yeah, so we don't mind to be NOT a slavic, we don't care. But anyway this is a false.
@bloodkelp
@bloodkelp Год назад
@@SogoNotDrunk i do care
@luckydssd
@luckydssd Год назад
@@kopatelonline +
@kingofdragonsgameplay1369
@kingofdragonsgameplay1369 2 года назад
And they say Russian propaganda is bad, lol
@HaziAgat
@HaziAgat 2 года назад
I mean, it’s not necessarily good
@enduser8410
@enduser8410 2 года назад
Both are bad. We cannot let both sides' media push this polarization and sensationalism or else things will never get solved between the two.
@kingofdragonsgameplay1369
@kingofdragonsgameplay1369 2 года назад
@@enduser8410 yeah, no. The only thing we can do to not let “media push this polarisation…” is censorship, which is against freedom of speech. In terms of Russian propaganda, the only way to discredit it is to stop feeding it fuel. Western media and/or politicians are always on the offensive and making points which Russia can easily refute or argue against. This is visible in international political debates, for example, where any accusations towards Russia are quickly and effectively countered, whether it would be with truth or a believable lie. This means Russia always has the final word, and thus is always a political victor. In addition, it is blatantly obvious that almost all media outlets, whether it would be in Russia or the West, have very high degrees of propaganda. The only difference is, Russian media is united behind a single ideology, while Western media is divided to argue against themselves.
@huldanoren951
@huldanoren951 2 года назад
@@kingofdragonsgameplay1369 When we say we will combat misinformation, we don't mean censorship, we mean that we should present the more accurate contrary information. And to some extent I do believe that censorship is necessary when combating misinformation (even if censorship is drastically against my values), like with antivaxxers for example, since their beliefs are extremely dangerous, antivaxx propaganda should be censored.
@Nobody32990
@Nobody32990 2 года назад
Keep in mind that Franciszek's thesis was made during the time of Poles fight for independence. It wasn't made just to spite Russia it had clear purpose in mind. Considering that there were russification efforts made after the annexation of Commonwealth's lands his motives are SOMEWHAT justified.
@dawudsandstorm7852
@dawudsandstorm7852 2 года назад
By this logic Ukrainians and Bulgarians are not Slavs because they had non-Slavic ruling class during their early founding.
@solis9482
@solis9482 2 года назад
Ukrainians is slavs , bruh
@ezzovonachalm7534
@ezzovonachalm7534 2 года назад
B' lgarian are a türkoid mixt that was SLAVISED as they converted to orthodoxy.
@user-yr3zp2br3y
@user-yr3zp2br3y 2 года назад
@@ezzovonachalm7534nope, there were already slavic people in bulgaria at the time of the conversion, thats why bulgaria converted to christianity, the iranoturcik protobulgars where conofined in the far northeast of the country, by themselves, they never wanted to mix with slavs and abandon tengrism, and in this way they disappeared generation after generation, alone. Only a few a of them mixed with the slavs but at the very end when no much was left fo them. today bulgarians would looke really different if really they were slavised iranoturks, like they would have been like asians, which is not absolutely the case. Just go there and see. Иди и смотри.
@solis9482
@solis9482 2 года назад
@Fritz Frenkel by that logic , no one is slav
@user-rr9ng9bo9l
@user-rr9ng9bo9l 2 года назад
isn't word '" rus' " itself of norse origin?
@mithrandirstormcrow4952
@mithrandirstormcrow4952 2 года назад
Damn, historical grudges and xenophobia mixed in with nationalism leads to some crazy shit.
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions 2 года назад
Yeah... I have never thought that Russians can be anything but Slavs! In fact, in my home country (the US), a lot of people even think that the term "Slav" _only_ means "Russian"! I can live with non-Russians being Slavs, but not Russians being non-Slavs!
@Nobody32990
@Nobody32990 2 года назад
Quick reminder, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was partitioned by the Russian Empire and Poles fought for 120 years to regain independence. Duchinsky's theory can be seen as for of intellectual fight against russification efforts.
@dsnodgrass4843
@dsnodgrass4843 2 года назад
Yep.
@apolon92s
@apolon92s 2 года назад
Ifrom Russia.. in Russia not many slavic... Russia - multinational shit. Nition uberalles. Save blood -first
@SpongeChadSquareJaw
@SpongeChadSquareJaw 2 года назад
@@apolon92s Можешь быть девственником, тогда твоя кровь точно останется чистой.
@czechpatriot2230
@czechpatriot2230 2 года назад
In Czech Republic we have something similar. Some people think that we are infact germanic and not Slavic.
@michaelsvec9275
@michaelsvec9275 2 года назад
Proto si tak hezky rozumíme s Němcema a nerozumíme Polákům 😂
@alexvsergeev
@alexvsergeev 2 года назад
Was in Prague in 2018, best city on Earth! Everyone thought I was Czech even though I’m Russian, so I had to speak to them in English. Also, I understood about ~50% of written words and could roughly understand the signs in the Metro. Best part was watching the football world cup in the evenings in local bars :)
@desnicar
@desnicar 2 года назад
From a genetics standpoint, they aren't wrong.
@SVTDI
@SVTDI 2 года назад
@@desnicar what ? Czechs are Slavs just like Slovaks
@desnicar
@desnicar 2 года назад
@@SVTDI Maybe I shat the bed with the genetics part, but I've been to Prague. Culturally Czechs are closer to Germans than they are to east or south Slavs.
@unums
@unums 2 года назад
*Divide and Conquer.* Some political/military tactics never get old.
@Juan-wx5xz
@Juan-wx5xz 2 года назад
Did Polish apply this tactic on Russians?
@a_t_0_n636
@a_t_0_n636 2 года назад
@@Juan-wx5xz en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheism
@MarkSmith-hu2yf
@MarkSmith-hu2yf 2 года назад
Yes. Soviet were excellent in this with probably the biggest deportations in human history: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer_in_the_Soviet_Union
@gasalsvift5356
@gasalsvift5356 2 года назад
what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared.
@TheProjectVoid
@TheProjectVoid 2 года назад
Just another way to try to dehumanize the Rus. Is what the neo-nationalist groups try to do in order to gain power in there home countries to use a common foe to trick their populace
@bacnguyen9304
@bacnguyen9304 2 года назад
If the Russian somehow became mongols after 250 years of occupation doesn't that mean Poles , Ukrainians, Belarusian also became Russians ??? They just admits they are Russian😂😂😂, you guys literally gave Putin the chance to justify war 😂😂😂
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 2 года назад
@Кошка-сокровище As some ex- North Korean spy said (interview by Asian Boss channel, recently), it is not wise to predict end of any war. You could never really know all the possible issues.
@bacnguyen9304
@bacnguyen9304 2 года назад
@@Martina-Kosicanka Russian military is pretty much geared for those fights and recent combat from Ukraine in 2014-15 didn't look good .
@questionableargumentations1364
@questionableargumentations1364 2 года назад
@@bacnguyen9304 you do realize that in 2014 Ukraine didn't even had good army
@questionableargumentations1364
@questionableargumentations1364 2 года назад
@Кошка-сокровище ah yes, Russian speaking "facts"
@questionableargumentations1364
@questionableargumentations1364 2 года назад
@@bacnguyen9304 they became mongols not from occupation tho, they have mongolian roots, but yeah they are not completely mongols
@einmuzi
@einmuzi 2 года назад
Wasn't that debunked by Life of Boris in the video "Rating countries by slavness - Travel with Boris" where Russia scored an 11/10 in slavness?
@msthing
@msthing 2 года назад
yes Boris should be the decisive voice on this matter
@huldanoren951
@huldanoren951 2 года назад
@@msthing r/whooosh
@huldanoren951
@huldanoren951 2 года назад
@sejak He didn't get the joke...?
@bandit9667
@bandit9667 2 года назад
@@huldanoren951 pretty sure he was actually going along with it
@blueberrybuttercake2942
@blueberrybuttercake2942 2 года назад
@@huldanoren951 He clearly get the joke
@angelgoyim
@angelgoyim Год назад
Thank you for this video. This reminds me of how a certain Austrian Artist who took over Germany and started WW II tried to bury the fact that many Germans have an admixture of Slavic ancestry and are not purely German.
@bobdollaz3391
@bobdollaz3391 Год назад
Hitler didn't believe those were Slavs
@malaxes
@malaxes Год назад
@@bobdollaz3391 Germany is an extension of Roman Empire which includes conquered Slavic tribes who’s identity was change to Germanic. For expample Ariovistus described today as Germanic slave who was trained by Romans to conquer and destroy his ancestors land was actually Slavic Cheruskan (Czeruski). And this could not be more obvious by the name of the tribe that they belong to Slavic group not Germanic. Polish chronicles even says that r of the Slavic tribes from the West who were bothered by Roman-Germans moved to the East and founded Kievian Rus. Also ancient Etruscan we’re living in Italy and their language is readable today using Slavic languages especially Russian.
@dl3472
@dl3472 6 месяцев назад
@@malaxes lol you russians are funny. Worry about the eastern part of russia and stay out of eurooe
@Erix442
@Erix442 Месяц назад
@@malaxes I'm Russian but Slavic origins of the ancient Etruscan language is myth(Although it's nice if in Italy they really think so, if I understood the comment correctly). We even don't understand Etruscan language.
@dispen275
@dispen275 2 года назад
"Russians are NOT Slavs?" *laughs maniacally in Polish*
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 2 года назад
Why? I think it is quite sad to be this dishonest
@dispen275
@dispen275 2 года назад
@@Martina-Kosicanka Almoust nobody in Poland takes it seriously, we say that to annoy the Russians
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 2 года назад
@@dispen275 OK, accepted, I guess. The good ol´ tradition of trolling?
@kubajackiewicz2
@kubajackiewicz2 2 года назад
@@Martina-Kosicanka i guess, i never even heard that this is an issue that exists
@dispen275
@dispen275 2 года назад
@@Martina-KosicankaOf course it is tradition. When Russian says "go left" the Pole goes right just to annoy him We say that not becouse we really think that but becouse Russians absolutely hate it I mean existance of this video is proof enough that they do
@renemiko123
@renemiko123 2 года назад
I am Czech,and it's not problem for me to understand Russian. And that's why I learnt Russian. It has similar gramatic. The gramatic is more similar to Russian,than to polish,we might understand more of a polish,but our languages are completely different. Infact,we have a lot of in common with Russian language.
@renemiko123
@renemiko123 2 года назад
@Абдульзефир nonono. Polish and Ukrainian grammar is so different from the Czech grammar. But Russian is close.
@ClifffSVK
@ClifffSVK 2 года назад
For example?
@renemiko123
@renemiko123 2 года назад
@@ClifffSVK wait. Do you mean: for example: similarities between czech and Russian grammar,or you mean why polish and Ukrainian have different grammar from the Czech or Russian?
@ClifffSVK
@ClifffSVK 2 года назад
Some example where Czech and Russian are similar while others work differently.
@renemiko123
@renemiko123 2 года назад
@@ClifffSVK for example,the endings in verbs. For example: být Biju,biješ,bije,bijem,bijete,bijоu Бить, Бью ,бьешь, бьёт, бьём, бьёте,бьют. Or jеt. Jedu, jedeš,jede,jedem,jedete,jedou Еду,едешь,едет,едем,едете,едут. It is almost same. And I hate that In ukrainian they use ы in the place where Czechs or Russians would use и or they use э while we would use е. And polish doesn't have grammar this close as Russian and Czech.
@matyastaller9759
@matyastaller9759 2 года назад
5:12 In my opinion, to say that Czechs and Poles can "understand each other without problems" is an overstatement to say the least. I mean, some Czechs have trouble even with Slovak if spoken too fast, and these two languages really are basically the same thing.
@harakitty2058
@harakitty2058 2 года назад
As a person who is actually of finno-ugric and turkic ancestry, all I can say is thanks to ukrainians who propagandize this theory, now you are hated not only by ethnic russians but also pretty much every minority within russia, mari, udmurt, tatars, bashkirs, yakuts, khantys and 70+ other. Bashing russians saying that they are finno-ugric, mongoloid or turkic as if that was something to be ashamed of is pretty disrespectful to these ethnicities as well.
@efim_sivacholi
@efim_sivacholi 2 года назад
Это поиск эдентичности, своих корней, фундамента на который можно опереться. Отсюда и комплексы с нациналистическим окрасом. Самодостаточные народы этого делать не будут. Обычная ущербность, как у Гитлера по поводу арийцев.
@user-yl5jm8np5d
@user-yl5jm8np5d 2 года назад
Полностью согласна.
@hokk23
@hokk23 2 года назад
Самое обидное что сначала они говорят что Финны, Эстонцы и Венгры им братья, а потом на чистом глазу выдают что финно-угры и тюрки не люди вообще.
@koala.justakoala4287
@koala.justakoala4287 2 года назад
No one is saying that it’s something to be ashamed of. They’re just asking russians to stop calling themselves their “brothers” and using this as an argument as to why Ukraine should unite with russia. There’s this saying that goes “russians say everything that’s russian - is slavic, to later claim that everything that is slavic - is russian”
@harakitty2058
@harakitty2058 2 года назад
@@koala.justakoala4287 yeah just like that one ukrainian girl on RU-vid that claimed russians are inferior because they have finnougric blood and finnougric peoples are undeveloped and have no culture. And that's what they are being taught in schools. Russia loses absolutely nothing if people would stop thinking of it as of a slavic nation. If slavs do not consider Tchaikovsky and Dostoevsky slavic then we'll kindly accept them in our finnougric hall of fame.
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding 2 года назад
Let's be honest, the people who say Russians aren't slavs are just salty Russia used to ruled over them.
@komodo5676
@komodo5676 2 года назад
True True
@abbanta3002
@abbanta3002 2 года назад
Ye true tbh
@arsen2506
@arsen2506 2 года назад
Harsh, but probably true
@WeebMrClean
@WeebMrClean 2 года назад
fact
@Claudius_Ptolemy
@Claudius_Ptolemy Год назад
Massive facts
@RealPolitik-dy4it
@RealPolitik-dy4it 2 года назад
This whole argument is like the pot calling the kettle black. Yes. Russians are mixed with Finno-Ugric People's. Heck, some are mixed with Native Siberians. In fact, I myself have some Volga Tatar Ancestry. But it isn't like Ukrainians, Czech's, Serbs, or Poles are "pureblood". Ukrainians are mixed with Romanians, Hungarians, and Turks. Czechs are mixed with Germans. So are Poles to an extent. Serbs are mixed with Turks and Hungarians. There is nothing wrong with any of that. Having some Finnic and Turkic Ancestry does not make a Slav less Slavic. Let's not get started on language just for the simple fact that ALL slavic languages are full of Greek, Latin, French, and English loanwords. If anything, such rhetoric is reminiscent of Germany in the 1930's.
@mikhaildrozdovsky.9960
@mikhaildrozdovsky.9960 2 года назад
Among Russians, except for the north, Western Eurasia is distributed by 95-97%, which is almost the same as Eastern Europe. Yes, Russians from the north have a partially overestimated East Eurasian admixture due to mixing with other peoples of the Volga-Ural group of the Finnic branch, but they themselves are genetically very different from the central and southern Russians. The Mongolian haplogroup, like Q and C, is practically absent in Russians.
@mikhaildrozdovsky.9960
@mikhaildrozdovsky.9960 2 года назад
An extensive analysis of the Russian pool of paternal lines presented here establishes the following general features: (1) the insignificance of the eastern gene flow, emphasized by the absence of typical haplogroups of Eastern and Central Asia; (2) well-pronounced gradients from north to south of specific haplogroups in the historical Russian region; (3) division of its general diversity into northern and central-southern populations; (4) the proximity of the northern populations to the Northeastern and eastern non-Slavic populations, which implies extensive assimilation or even direct language change; Russian Russians (5) lower Y-chromosomal variations throughout central-southern historical Russia compared to high variations among northern Russians; (6) proximity, achievement of virtual coincidence in the MDS plot, in the Y-chromosomal variation between central-southern Russians with Ukrainians, Belarusians and Poles; and (7) this significant intra-ethnic differentiation of the North Russian population is the only exception to the rule found; in the broader European context, interethnic (mainly linguistic) differences strongly prevail. Russian Russians' Y-chromosome pool in their historical settlement zone is predominantly a composite composite of their Proto-Slavic heritage and, in particular, in the Russian North, extensive admixture with Finno-Ugric speakers. This bipartite scenario of the main sources of origin of modern ethnic Russians is supported by the analysis of classical markers presented here and can be used as a working hypothesis for a better understanding of the genetic diversity and demographic history of Eurasian populations. Its patrilineal aspect can be further clarified by a detailed study of STR variations in phylogenetic biliallelic haplogroups, although new informative SNPs should be identified for deeper progress, in particular, given that only a small part of the Y chromosome has been studied so far for markers potentially informative for phylogeographic research3. www.cell.com/fulltext/S0002-9297%2807%2900025-0
@onevablo1692
@onevablo1692 2 года назад
Дак это ты в Сибири, на западе уже сделали многие выводы о том что северные русские сильно от остальных отличаются.
@gonzalo20000
@gonzalo20000 2 года назад
@@mikhaildrozdovsky.9960 North russians are still, mostly Slavs. Also, finno-ugric people are more genetycally Western Eurasian rather than Eastern Eurasian. The only people with high East Eurasian genes are the finno-ugric who live on the east of the ural mountains, like the Nenets, Mansi or the Khanty people. But in contrast, finnic people Who live on European part of Russia, have mostly European features.
@andreilukyanov4286
@andreilukyanov4286 6 месяцев назад
@@gonzalo20000 Truth is that ethnic Russians are all Slavs. Finno-Ugric people are the LINGUISTIC group of peoples. If your trad language and culture are Finno-Ugric, then these people are Finno-Ugric. There is no such thing as "a Finno-Ugric blood". Slavs are the same.
@timax4114
@timax4114 2 года назад
This is funny, i wonder what those 'scientist' would think of about us South Slavs.
@ablorenz
@ablorenz 2 года назад
South Slavs also sometimes get called "Turks" because of the Ottoman occupation.
@gasalsvift5356
@gasalsvift5356 2 года назад
what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared.
@frostflower5555
@frostflower5555 2 года назад
DNA of south Slavs ie former Yugoslavia has hardly any Middle Eastern DNA. They may have a bit of Siberian though like other European nations. They also have some Greek DNA.
@tomobakac6177
@tomobakac6177 2 года назад
@ALEKSANDAR turčine
@_Allvar_
@_Allvar_ 2 года назад
The most annoying part for me, and it's global propaganda for real, is that Russians can't understand other Slavic languages. This shit is frustrating. Imagine growing up in Chernozem'e (near Ukraine's Charkov), half of your buddies (and family) speaking a southern Russian (which sounds like Ukrainian for northern Russians). And it's not just about neighbor Ukraine, Belorussian was also around all the time, you've talked to them in Russian and they understood, they talked to you in Belorussian - and you get it all. You were raised in an orthodox family, so you can understand how close is Church-Slavic to southern Slavic languages, you can even read Serbian and Bulgarian without any special training! But a bit later all the fckn internet starting to insist that Russians can't understand Slavic languages. Bruuuuuuuh
@user-sq2uy1rc8y
@user-sq2uy1rc8y 25 дней назад
There was a language reform in Russia in 1918. It was slightly changed and made to sound more solid. As it was, it was almost indistinguishable from the current Ukrainian, only there were more sounds and letters
@tomasspace4819
@tomasspace4819 2 года назад
"Czechs and poles understand each other without problems." Yeah in english. Czechs and Slovaks understand each other. Some words are the same so understanding some parts is possible but its definetly not "without problems".
@napoleonbonaparte4396
@napoleonbonaparte4396 Год назад
Did you notice Boris Yeltsin and Raisa Gorbachova had narrow eyes? So do Hungarians.
@Pandzikizlasu80
@Pandzikizlasu80 Год назад
More problematic are false friends and big possibility that a Pole or Czech will burst with a laughter. Slovakian is like a more like a difficult dialect to both languages.
@LordDamianus
@LordDamianus Год назад
You are stupid. We understand our languages quite well if we use basic words and sentences. I mean, we don't need to talk about politics once we meet.
@eldermoose7938
@eldermoose7938 2 года назад
clearly the people making language argument don't know how linguistics works. Linguistic groups are based on root origins traced back to the earliest common ancestor, not based on which languages they are the most similar to now. It's the same logic that makes people believe English is a romance language when it's Germanic. English's proximity to a French and the immense cultural influence it had on it is a major reason why the English vocabulary has so many romance words, but grammatically still similar to German and other Germanic languages even if their unintelligible. It just saddens me that people are using political gradiences to justify othering a peoples cultural heritage.
@ded_omlt4934
@ded_omlt4934 2 года назад
And still Russian changed not so much as English, I, myself Russian still can understand much of slavic languages, if they speak slower. Polish and Czech are hardest to understand.
@muhammadtroll2835
@muhammadtroll2835 2 года назад
Same issue here in North Africa, people keep calling each others "fake" over difference in pronounciation and loanwords in Darija dialects lol
@frostflower5555
@frostflower5555 2 года назад
Half of Germany was Slavic. The toponyms are revealing too.
@pawelp8307
@pawelp8307 2 года назад
English is close to German ?
@avenger4027
@avenger4027 3 месяца назад
That's the thing, Muscovite language had no "common ancestor". It is an artificial creation of the likes of Lomonosov.
@polishimam4956
@polishimam4956 Год назад
As someone from Poland, regardless of troubled History. I always viewed Russia to be Slavic, not by their culture since their culture is a bit different but somewhat similar to other slavic cultures but by their language since it's some what similar. Something people failed to understand is, every country has their own culture, differently but coming from the same tribe, we need to learn to respect that🇵🇱🇷🇺💞
@kishmishkashmiri
@kishmishkashmiri Год назад
Are you really Muslim living in Poland ?
@polishimam4956
@polishimam4956 Год назад
@@kishmishkashmiri I'm a revert to Islam Alhamdulilah, born in Poland but currently living in England
@kishmishkashmiri
@kishmishkashmiri Год назад
@@polishimam4956 Knew it. It’s always the diaspora who fall for the lies of the pagan stone worshippers.
@margaritaclenow9671
@margaritaclenow9671 Год назад
@@polishimam4956 I want to thank you so much, I’m Russian and even though the government is shit the *150 million* citizens of Russia that live are not, I hope this horrible war ends soon because no good has come out of it from any side, Russia or Ukraine. Russians are just as much Slavs as Ukrainians and Pols and other Slavs are. We may be different but we are still Slavs. May there be clear sky’s over our heads soon! Спасибо!
@87890-
@87890- Год назад
poland is russia, all slavic langauge and slavic countries originated by in russia its crazy that this topic exist, its a shame that the ukraine war, they all fire russia
@joepaddy7239
@joepaddy7239 Год назад
I’m a pole, all the hardships my family went through due to Russia is undeniable, but that’s due to the governments not people. A Russian person is just as great of a brother to me as a Czech or Slovak. Slavia all slavs.
@Cornyexploited
@Cornyexploited Год назад
Very good words, brother. Thank you.
@joepaddy7239
@joepaddy7239 Год назад
@@Cornyexploited It’s a reality most poles can’t accept if we don’t accept our eastern brothers then we are doomed to fall to this western degeneracy, the Rurkids led the eastern slavs to greatness yet now Putin is making to country look weak.
@Cornyexploited
@Cornyexploited Год назад
@@joepaddy7239 In Russia, the image of Poland is demonstrated by Polish Russophobia, but few people say that Poland and Hungary are the only NATO and EU countries that still stand for family values ​​and Christian Europe. I respect the Poles for this. And history is the past. The present will also become the past. Sooner or later, the Slavic (and generally white) European peoples will have to fight a common enemy.
@joepaddy7239
@joepaddy7239 Год назад
@@Cornyexploited I truly believe us as slavs should unify, atleast then with the the power of all economies we can develop lands in the Balkans and Russia, Us western slavs need to help our fellow slavs develop so they aren’t conquered in the near future.
@Cornyexploited
@Cornyexploited Год назад
@@joepaddy7239 conquered by whom?
@Sweetasthesun
@Sweetasthesun 2 года назад
I am ethnic russian living I'm Sweden. I guess the Vikings are back home after a detour in Russia. Well I have a little ukrainian and belarusian blood too. 🇷🇺🇧🇾🇺🇦
@alekz1235
@alekz1235 2 года назад
I also have east slavic blood and live in Sweden
@Sweetasthesun
@Sweetasthesun 2 года назад
@@alekz1235 Lovely! 🥰 // Elina
@lowskillcamper
@lowskillcamper 2 года назад
I was born and raised in Russia, I am half Tatar and half Bashkir, both my mother and my father are half Tatar and half Bashkir. My wife is Ukrainian born in Kazakhstan. We now live in Sweden too. Of what nationality is our 4 y. o. son who happened to have blonde hair and blue eyes? XD Funny that it was yesterday I've been discussing with him what nationalities are, and what a nonsense nationalistic hatred is.
@Zer0sHi
@Zer0sHi 2 года назад
Повезло повезло, мне бы в Швецию(((
@liars6495
@liars6495 2 года назад
are you sweden the country ?
@antlantikov2205
@antlantikov2205 2 года назад
They show difference in vocabulary, sometimes Russians do use odd words but the thing is in most cases it's either 1. They use the same words with different meanings 2. It's new Russian words because old/archaic Russian was identical with the rest
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 2 года назад
"Koň"(a horse) could be an example, right? Nowadays Russians say "loshaď" (femininum) instead of koň (masculinum), but there are songs like Koň by Lyube and Běliy Koň by Alexandr Malinin..
@borealevatski5167
@borealevatski5167 2 года назад
​@@Martina-Kosicanka "loshad'" is a general word for a horse and "koň" is still widely used, and it can mean either a male horse, but also in plural "koni" will mean just horses in general, just like "loshadi"
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 2 года назад
@@borealevatski5167 Thanks. We Slovaks use word kôň (pronunciation kuoň) generally, but to underline, that the horse is a female we use word kobyla. Czechs use kůň (kooň) and klisna.
@user-rn2bj3dh6j
@user-rn2bj3dh6j 2 года назад
@@Martina-Kosicanka lol, we also use word kobyla. It also can be deragotory word for fat and stocky woman.
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 2 года назад
@@user-rn2bj3dh6j Thanks for teaching me something new :)
@boogeyman4937
@boogeyman4937 2 года назад
"Even" as a Croat, I'll say, Russians are world wide brand for all the Slavs, just as we say Kalodont in term of any tooth paste. Whether the rest of us like it or not, that’s a fact.
@isadanjan4762
@isadanjan4762 2 года назад
according to genetic studies, many Russian Slavs, only northern Russia is very different.
@AkakaDomenjer
@AkakaDomenjer 2 года назад
Then you are not very intelligent croat.
@dowmont6209
@dowmont6209 Год назад
@@isadanjan4762 Not very.
@dowmont6209
@dowmont6209 Год назад
@@isadanjan4762 They are also slavs with some northeuropean influence.
@NameUserOf
@NameUserOf Год назад
This doesn't make sense. Slavs existed before muscovits. Russian language was created in 18th century. Rurik probably didn't exist as there no direct mention in any document outside the one that was written centuries after without mentioning the source.
@genzo53
@genzo53 2 года назад
Who the hell would think Russians aren't slavs?! Russians are the slavvest slavs that ever slavved. And that's coming from a Bulgarian. We gave you the alphabet, BTW, and thanks for the liberation, we'll be forever grateful.
@danielforeroc
@danielforeroc 2 года назад
It's also kinda sad that some bulgarians and romanians downplay the role of Russia in the liberation of the balkans, it's true that Russia had imperialistic ambitions, just as any other great power of the time did, but saying things that "Russia never fought for our liberty, they only fought for getting puppet states", is wrong, no country liberated by Russia became a puppet, Serbia and Montenegro had their own rulling dinasties, while in Greece, Romania and Bulgaria, german nobles, not russians, became monarchs, and were imposed by the west. And Bulgaria is the greatest example, if Bulgaria was a russian puppet, how did they join WWI in the side that was fighting against Russia? Btw, I'm only talking about imperial times, the soviet times are more complicated.
@coa8752
@coa8752 2 года назад
@@danielforeroc for bulgaria it could be based on the peace contract of San stefano where Bulgaria would be united and defacto independent from the ottoman empire under the condition of being a vassal to russia.
@tingleblade4274
@tingleblade4274 2 года назад
The Greeks translated the sacred texts into existing languages into existing alphabets. There is no need to spread myths that the Slavs did not have their own letter, when all peoples had it. People were no more stupid than they are now.
@huldanoren951
@huldanoren951 2 года назад
"Slavvest Slavs that ever slavved" GOLD
@taterkaze9428
@taterkaze9428 2 года назад
"Russians are the slavvest slavs that ever slavved." You're Bulgarian? You've got English nailed. Props.
@matthewsteele99
@matthewsteele99 2 года назад
From what I know it depends on the region Some regions' Russians have more Finnic or Ugric than Russians on average do. But if we speak of western central Russia, it's mostly Slavonic for sure
@cianakril
@cianakril 2 года назад
That doesn't matter at all, to be honest, as Russia was multiethnic since the get go and keeps assimilating different cultures and people up to date.
@matthewsteele99
@matthewsteele99 2 года назад
@@cianakril it matters in a sense as just genetic variation studies It doesn't suddenly make all Russians not Slavic All that is Polish or Ukrainian russophobic propaganda
@andreilukyanov4286
@andreilukyanov4286 6 месяцев назад
genetics =/= ethnicity. A Southern French woman will have a different genetics from the Northern French woman: one will be a petite Mediterranean looking brunette, an another will be a tall blond with big boobs. One will be genetically closer to Spaniards than with her own Northern French compatriote who will on her turn be genetically closer to the Flemish people than to her own Southern French sister. Nevertheless, both are French.
@alvaroanacona7138
@alvaroanacona7138 2 года назад
I’ve always been interested in the differences between the Slavs ! I’ve always known the relationships have been super complicated and that one shouldn’t paint you all with one brush! Awesome video!
@yumallah
@yumallah 2 года назад
Hey there, I'm an ethnic Vepsian (a very small Finnic indigenous group from the Russian Northwest), and as someone who's lived most of his life in St. Petersburg and therefore is constantly surrounded by ethnic Russians and Russian speakers, and speaks Russian as one of his two native languages (alongside Vepsian), I believe I may have some nice insight into this argument and where it stems. Okay, so, first of all, let me clarify - there definitely is a huge Finno-Ugric imprint in Russian culture, thanks to the Northwest Russian contributions to mainstream Russian culture. Speaking of which, Northwest Russian culture is practically identical to the culture of local ethnic Karelians and Vepsians, both a Finnic people, which means that Northwest Russians are at the very least partially descended from assimilated remnants of those ethnic groups' relatives. In fact, seeing as those Vepsians that still identify as such today generally live in very isolated areas, one can assume the surrounding ethnically Russian population are descended from those Vepsians that didn't live so faraway from larger settlements. Which is absolutely true. But that doesn't mean that the Russian identity is exactly the same as the Vepsian identity or the Karelian identity. No, they're all very different. Well, not so much these days, but before the Great October Revolution (after which the various parts of the country became much more interconnected), Vepsians, while being extremely culturally close to Russians, were noted to be often experience forms of xenophobia from surrounding Russian population, they would be picked on and generally made fun of, and were being encouraged to forget their mother tongue as soon as possible and to assimilate into the Great Russian nation. The scholars of the day usually concluded that Vepsians would become completely assimilated in 30-40 years from that point in time (which was the late 19th century and the early 20th century). But, thankfully, the Bolsheviks came to power and gave us (along with hundreds of other indigenous minorities of Soviet Russia) our own alphabet and our own literature, which our people had never been able to enjoy prior. The first ever Vepsians poets, writers, and artists started to appear in those days - which is incredible for a people that were, just a few decades ago, regarded as simple village folk, incapable of accomplishing great civilizational tasks without abandoning their own culture for another one. So, as you can see, the Russian people, while obviously being related to other indigenous peoples of Russia, are definitely an ethnic group of their own and cannot be counted as being non-Slavic.
@northernstar3960
@northernstar3960 2 года назад
Very interesting information indeed. Otherwhise who gives a crap today if Russia is slavic or not. Russia is a unique culture and civilisation forged and created in times of Peter the Great and Russian Empire. United by Russian language and centuries old friendship and Union between people and cultures inside Russia. Same as United States of America is today for example. Ukrainian, Polish and other anti-Russian activists who are claiming that Russia is not slavic state are primitive and barbaric people. Same as their impoverished agricultural countries wich are nothing more than indepted slaves and vassals to IMF, World Bank and European Union bankers and capitalists.
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 года назад
@@northernstar3960 Canado Ukrainian passed their time faking they own history and whit wash ukrainian collaborators with the nazis
@M65V19
@M65V19 2 года назад
@@northernstar3960Actually russians themselves "gives a crap". This is always interesting to know whose descendant are you and who are your ancestors.
@schildpatt14
@schildpatt14 2 года назад
as a Tatar, I fully support. everything was the same with us.
@pawelp8307
@pawelp8307 2 года назад
@@northernstar3960 Hello you Russian troll, it is not true that we in Poland claim that Russians are non Slavic nations. And it is not true that Poland is impoverished country, especially compared to Russia, except may be for Moscow and Petersburg.
@Danewcielo
@Danewcielo 2 года назад
I think you should have mentioned that there are genetic differences among Russians. Northern Russians are Ugro-Finnic, while Central and Southern Russians are genetically very similar to other Slavic nations, like Poles or Belarussians.
@radziwill7193
@radziwill7193 2 года назад
This is not the case. Modern Novgorod, Arkhangelsk and Pskov have the highest rate of Slavic genes. And interestingly, they have a higher IQ with Yaroslavl.
@ablorenz
@ablorenz 2 года назад
yes, northern Russians are more Nordic.
@yumallah
@yumallah 2 года назад
@@radziwill7193 Because those are the largest cities of the entire Russian North (not counting the metropolitan St. Petersburg, of course), and, being the huge trade centers that they once were, they obviously attracted ethnically Slavic population from all over the Rus'. Now, venture out into the surrounding villages and smaller towns, and you'll see a completely different story... (saying all this as a North Russian/Vepsian myself btw)
@andreisdarkside9991
@andreisdarkside9991 2 года назад
Northern Russians are not entirely ugro-finnic. Northern Russians too, are majority Slavic eastern European genetically.
@andreisdarkside9991
@andreisdarkside9991 2 года назад
@@yumallah yeah but how many northern Russians are compared to total Russian population? I'm fully Russian and the most "north" region I have in my ancestry is Kaluga region. Same for most Russians I know. Arkhangelsk, Vologda, Leningrad regions are so sparsely populated barely anybody lives there. Русские - в своей основной массе - это именно "южные" русские, а не северные.
@alexey9171
@alexey9171 Год назад
I'm Russian and I don't care if I'm a Slav or not. The rest of the Slavs want me to be a Finno-Ugric or a Mongol, no problem, I will be a Finno-Ugric or a Mongol. Then the Hungarians will be my brothers, I don't mind. Hungarians are a very cool people who stand up for their opinion, despite what others think. How much will I lose from the fact that I will not be a Slav, but remain Russian? No, not much. How much will the Slavs lose if the Russians are not Slavs? Hmm, well, let's see... If the Russians are not Slavs, then: not the Slavs wrote dozens of cult works of classical literature and music, not the Slavs invented the periodic table, not the Slavs invented the radio, not the Slavs sent the first satellite into space, non-Slavs built the first manned spacecraft, the first man in space was not a Slav, the first girl in space was not a Slav, the first space station was built by non-Slavs, and much, much more, which I, due to my stupidity, cannot immediately remember. Have you ever considered a problem from this side? The question is who will lose and become poorer: Russians from the fact that they will not be Slavs or Slavs from the fact that the achievements of the Russians will cease to be associated in any form with the Slavic ethnos? Then the Slavs will be even more miserable and miserable in the eyes of the Turkic peoples in the face of the Turks, and the German peoples in the face of: Germans, Austrians, British, Americans (it is debatable of course, but the peoples of Germanic origin rule and rule there), who always hated the Slavs and tried to conquer , and destroy the Russians altogether. In no case do I belittle other Slavic peoples, Russians are no better than Serbs or Czechs, and in general all people are equal in this world, but I have to defend my own people in this particular case, so I list briefly what it was he gave to others . The Bulgarians are great, who gave us the alphabet, the Serbs are great, the Poles are great, despite our blood feud. All other Slavic peoples are just as great. But, only the common contribution of all peoples to world culture and science makes the Slavic ethnos great, and the Russian contribution to world culture and science is not one that can be thrown away and forgotten. By united efforts, we can compete with the Germanic peoples, but by squeezing us out of your family, can you compete with them culturally or scientifically? Remove Russian composers from your Slavic family, and then who can compete with Beethoven or Mozart? In general, I do not take offense at squeezing Russians out of the Slavs, since I have not believed in the Slavic brotherhood for a long time. The Poles, with whom we are at war and have been trying to destroy each other for centuries, the Bulgarians, who betray and go to kill us in alliance with our enemies, etc. Well, what kind of brotherhood can there be? It seems only in dreams. I want to strictly note that this is by no means the opinion of Russians, this is my personal opinion, of an insignificant person from the province of Russia. Therefore, if I offended anyone, then offend me in return, but not the Russian people, since I am only responsible for myself.
@David-kn4hb
@David-kn4hb Год назад
The fact Why so many Slavs doesn’t want russians to be Slavs is that that Russia always abused the fact that the other counties are Slavic to conquer them. I am from Czechia and Russia haven’t did anytime something good for us they started the WW1 that destroyed our Austrian-Hungarian empire and than after the WW2 they occupied us and attacked us in 1968. Russia was always our enemy and it is still to this day. One very famous Czech author Karel Havlíček Borovský that lived in the 19 century once said “Russians call everything Russian Slavic so that they can call later everything Slavic Russian”.
@googleto1881
@googleto1881 Год назад
my man you just cant talk about someone going broke when you are from russia... i feel bad for you because you probably belive that you live in a good country thats not corrupted to the bone
@alexey9171
@alexey9171 Год назад
​@@David-kn4hb Does this mean that the Russians started the First World War? After such a statement, there is nothing more to talk about with you. With the same success, it can be argued that Russia dropped nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
@Svarog187
@Svarog187 Год назад
Never heard a Slav saying Russians are not Slavs! The Problem with Slavs among each other is that we started to believe the History of the West written about the Slavs instead of trusting OUR old historians wich ALL say the same about our origin. If Slavs dont agree about their history there will not be identity for Slavs, and thats exactly what the west want.
@David-kn4hb
@David-kn4hb Год назад
@@alexey9171 Russia and Serbia started the WW1. Serbia wanted to control all south Slavic nations and Russia wanted to dominate the Balkan Peninsula. For them Austria-Hungary was a hindrace. Crna ruka (the terrorist organisation that killed Franz Ferdinand) was working with a Serbian government and had some to them. Franz Ferdinand wanted to make Austria Hungary into a federation and that was very bad for Serbia because it would make their dream of Yugoslavia very unlikely. Russia should not join the War because they brought into this small war Germany and France and made out of it a world war.
@PacianaVitez
@PacianaVitez 2 года назад
"The Russians do not understand other Slavic languages".Bullshit, I'm a native Russian speaker and I find the most of Slavic languages quite familiar, even Polish sounds only like a bit strange version of Ukranian. The Duchinsky version, is so beloved by the Ukranian Greco-Catholic nationalists only for political reasons.
@IllogicalThinker
@IllogicalThinker 2 года назад
I have a Russian Father and Ukranian Mother, but growing up I spoke Russai nand english, I can read a write in russian, but I can undedtand ukrainian, and im learning it easily, I definetley agrre
@udenss
@udenss 2 года назад
You are Moscovians, stollen identity
@sketchingdown9710
@sketchingdown9710 2 года назад
@@udenss hohоls are a mix of lithuanians, austrians, poles and russians genetically, same goes to the language.
@Grizathvili
@Grizathvili 2 года назад
This Sergei is a navalny brother. Navalny party is paid by the US ambassador, similar to the Zelenskyy party. Unfortunately, they had never gotten sufficient support from many Russians.
@itspronouncednikolaj333
@itspronouncednikolaj333 2 года назад
Facts...i never met a Russian speaker who would not understand at least half of what someone is saying in another slavic language....i wonder who this idiot is
@Nebelworfer
@Nebelworfer 2 года назад
God, that linguistic angle is an absolute meme. Only someone with absolutely no knowledge in the field may believe this stuff. BTW, I've conversed with bolgarians decently well with neither of us actually knowing the other's language.
@yandespar3490
@yandespar3490 2 года назад
Hi, regarding the languages. If a word in related languages are similar, it doesn't necessarily mean that the word was borrowed from one side. As the languages are related, the words just very often have common origins. So, that's why there are many similar words in Ukrainian and Russian, for example, so many Ukrainians make mistake of rejecting these words because they sound "Russian". The same goes vice-versa - when Russians claim that Ukrainian borrowed the words from them or from Poles while those are of common Slavic origin. Anyways, languages are to complicated to pinpoint them like that
@Polak_Russkij
@Polak_Russkij 2 года назад
Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians and Poles fall into the same group on the MDS diagram (way of expressing phylogenetic distance between organisms), which reflects the variability of the Y chromosome (genetic distance), which indicates their genetic relationship and common origin. Russians do not have Y-chromosomal haplogroups Q and C of the Khazars and Mongols.
@pickxd2035
@pickxd2035 2 года назад
Haplogroup Q is originally from Siberian Caucasoids ANE.They are assimilated with the alien Mongoloids.Some went to Northern Imerica and became Americanoids.
@fgjjdgb3949
@fgjjdgb3949 2 года назад
It's an interesting fact. Russian internationalism was very well promoted by Orthodoxy, due to the fact that it was supranational, that helped to unite a huge number of peoples and nationalities under the leadership of first Rurikovich, and then the Romanovs.
@radziwill7193
@radziwill7193 2 года назад
It doesn't work as we imagine. Thanks to Orthodoxy, anyone who would accept Orthodoxy could be considered Russian, but all the same, only the foreign elite did this to get the title and land. Basically, mixing took a very long time, mixing accelerated only in the USSR thanks to compulsory primary education.
@gasalsvift5356
@gasalsvift5356 2 года назад
what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared.
@timurermolenko2013
@timurermolenko2013 2 года назад
@@gasalsvift5356 but Russians feel more comfortable with the history written by historians on Russian government payroll. And anything deviating from that would be seen as deviation from "commonly accepted world history". By the way ukrainians called themselves ruthenians up until 20th century
@louisecorchevolle9241
@louisecorchevolle9241 2 года назад
Prince Rurik was complete viking
@timurermolenko2013
@timurermolenko2013 2 года назад
@@louisecorchevolle9241 France was also ruled by English at some point
@lilmil7139
@lilmil7139 2 года назад
I'm Russian and I would only be glad if Russians belonged to the Finno-Ugric. Finno-Ugric is very unique in comparison with the Slavic
@ablorenz
@ablorenz 2 года назад
that's actually true
@lilmil7139
@lilmil7139 2 года назад
@Ararune this is just my opinion, I like the Finno-Ugric culture more
@FritzYT
@FritzYT 2 года назад
@Ararune Finno-Ugric people are a trillion times more unique than Slavs.
@cathaneisdying
@cathaneisdying 2 года назад
@Ararune Why are you so pressed? It is the truth. Finno-Ugric peoples have a unique ethnicities, cultures, and languages. Northern Russians are quite Finno-Ugric in fact, they have more Nordic facial features, forming a genetic cluster with Finns and Estonians.
@cathaneisdying
@cathaneisdying 2 года назад
@Ararune Are you a Polish plumber or something?
@huldanoren951
@huldanoren951 2 года назад
I thought you were gonna talk about how the Kievan Rus really were a North Germanic (Nordic) people that settled the land (since that's what vikings do) and just blended in with the Slavic people who already lived there, but I guess I was not so pleasantly surprised that this bullshit theory exists and people are seriously buying it.
@mollof7893
@mollof7893 2 года назад
Same
@chibiromano5631
@chibiromano5631 2 года назад
It's in the language tho and customs(carpets). Russian is unlike any other Slavic language. It also has strong Latin, Indo European & some Uralic influence too. So why is Polish and Ukranian so similar to eachother than Russian? Russia is a huge country and has so many ethnicities. It should be proud of its vast heritage , so what if Russia is not as Balto Slavic as Poland.It's still related to the Balkans and it's still related to the Uralics and it has Siberian Yenesian influence which makes it related to Native Americans and other Central Asians. In fact, Russian is the most Global languages of all langauges. It's the envy of the Western Europeans.
@RaveniusSFRJ
@RaveniusSFRJ 2 года назад
I highly doubt that anyone blended in. Germans have been ruling Slav countries since early beginning. Many of Russian knyaz and emperors didn't even speak or care about russian language since they almost never spoke it in courts and palaces.
@radziwill7193
@radziwill7193 2 года назад
@@chibiromano5631 Because not only Russians, but Poles, Lithuanians, Crimeans fled to the wild field to become Cossacks. And the Russian land like Kiev, Volyn, Lvov was colonized by the Poles.
@Neversa
@Neversa 2 года назад
That theory is absolutely proven but disliked only by Russian nationalists
@Dangur2
@Dangur2 2 года назад
Depends how to define slavs. The only "scientific" definition concerns the language. There is no specific genetics about it, genetics is not bound to the language. Nor is it bound to ethnicity or nationality. Southern slavs differ sufficiently from the western ones, on the level of genetics, and Moscow dwellers are much more genetically close to Poles, than to the population of Arkhangelsk, that is more close to Finns (genetically). Russian language is, no doubts, Slavic, and overwhelming majority of ancestors of modern ethnical russians spoke russian, that is slavic, in the end of pre-industrial era, when mixing and migration radically increased. Nowdays there are other russian speakers, and some define even afro-russians as slavs, although it is quite confusing. Still, it is possible to define as a slav a person, most of whose direct ancestors spoke some slavic language in pre-industrial era.
@dymytryruban4324
@dymytryruban4324 6 месяцев назад
The population Arkhangelsk is closer to Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians than to Finns.
@empereur_du_congoeddy-malo2286
@empereur_du_congoeddy-malo2286 2 года назад
Here in France a lot of people dening the fact that french's ancesters was the celtics gauls
@insertname9554
@insertname9554 2 года назад
Who else could be your ancestors lol
@enrico7474
@enrico7474 2 года назад
@@insertname9554 probably Latins since french is a romance* language but that sounds outrageous
@enrico7474
@enrico7474 2 года назад
@Urgut u watch bruhify
@Swift-mr5zi
@Swift-mr5zi 2 года назад
@Lewis C Franks were a germanic tribe who ruled the region of modern France as an aristocratic class. They changed the French language a lot and even gave their name to France. 'France' in German literally still means 'land of the franks' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_French#Franks Meaning that Charlemagne and other famous Franks had no connection to most people within France
@WeebMrClean
@WeebMrClean 2 года назад
@@insertname9554 modern-day france is basically arab
@DaniilBalkans-jh2rw
@DaniilBalkans-jh2rw 9 месяцев назад
As a slav you can always understand enough similar slavic words in any sentence spoken by another slavic language speaker, to understand each other. We do this every day in the Balkans & in slavic eastern Europe. A slavic language speaker will never walk away from another dialect slavic language speaker, confused & not understood?. We done that in Yugoslavia, & in Donbass, Crimea, Russia. We all understand each other quite quickly in any conversation amongst us, older we are, the easier it is to understand other slavic language speaker.
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 2 года назад
This is like the Albanians who claim that all the Balkans are Albanian lol
@konars5601
@konars5601 Год назад
Not all, only western.
@banzaaiiiii
@banzaaiiiii Год назад
pahahaha coming from an greek
@Zaporizhzhian
@Zaporizhzhian 3 месяца назад
You understand under "This is like" that slavs are Russians?
@myrddrral
@myrddrral 2 года назад
Hearing this for the first time. As an outsider, seeing all af the shared cultural elements of the countries involved, it seems a really outlandish idea. Truly wierd that it is taken seriously by some.
@user-wb9ye8sp5n
@user-wb9ye8sp5n Год назад
@@endriu628 напиши это под всеми комментариями, знаток переписанной истории) у тебя есть хоть одна книга доказывающая твое мнение? мне было бы весьма интересно прочесть её и узнать наконец каким удивительным боком я связана с фино-уграми)
@AliHamdhan
@AliHamdhan 2 года назад
Thank you for this very informative video,I have often discussed this very topic with my wife who is an ethnic slav from Rus, additionally I commend you on your excellent grasp of spoken English 👍
@gasalsvift5356
@gasalsvift5356 2 года назад
what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared.
@rigastudentsrent7759
@rigastudentsrent7759 2 года назад
Im Russian and I understand 50% of Polish.. never learned polish
@thesnowfox7262
@thesnowfox7262 2 года назад
Another way to prove this: Russian folk, please try to listen to the lyrics of the "song of the sword dancer" ost from the witcher 3. Apart from the word for "spear" which is completely different, I can understand without a problem
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 2 года назад
Right, that's what I thought when it came to intermarriage: the Mongol/Tatar elite sometimes married into the elites of conquered peoples, but of course the elite comprise a very small part of any population. I remember reading that the name Sheremeteev is of Tatar origin, with the "-emet-" part of the name coming from "Ahmed."
@ButterDog42069
@ButterDog42069 2 года назад
Lol, Sheremeteev is not a name, it's a surname. The same thing as saying "This guy must be ethnically arian because his last name is White"
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 2 года назад
@@ButterDog42069 In informal English, "name" can refer either to a forename or a surname. And believe it or not, having a last name that originates with a certain ethnic group can be a good indication of some ties to said group (you won't meet many ethnic Finns, for example, named Nguyen). But thanks for playing.
@ButterDog42069
@ButterDog42069 2 года назад
@@valmarsiglia Ok, i've been owned, i admit it. Btw my previous comment was not intended to sound agressive, sorry if it did
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 2 года назад
@@ButterDog42069 Sorry too, thanks.
@Hadar1991
@Hadar1991 2 года назад
I want to add my two cents to this discussion. Are Russians descendants of Slavs who originated in Polesia (border regions between modern Ukraine and Belarus with small parts in Poland and Russia)? Off course. Do Russians speak a Slavic language? No doubts. Do Russians share many customs with other Slavic nation? Absolutely yes. But... ... there is a one MAJOR thing that completely separates Russians and all other Balto-Slavic nations. Heck even from all other European nations. And it is political culture. Russian principalities where dependent from Mongols from 1237 until 1480 (that is almost 250 years). While Ukrainian and Belarusian territories where only briefly under Mongol influence (it was replaced with Lithuanian and then Polish) we must remember than Russians where under Tatar influence until remains of Golden Horde where conquered by Muscovy (and even after that, which I will explain). So there is no doubt that Russian principalities had majority Slav population (or at least slavicisated Ugric people), spoke East Slavic and where Christians, although we must remember that many, if not majority, of boyars had Tatar origin. But during these 250 years of Mongol dependence Russian principalities adopted Mongol political system. And more Mongol-like political institutions Muscovy had* the more strong and independent Muscovy became. So Russia totally embraced what it is called sometimes "oriental despotism" in exchange of preserving Rurikovich dynasty, Orthodox religion, Russian language and mostly culture. And to be honest in political terms Russia is continuation of Golden Horde no matter how hard Russians would like to believe it is not. And it is also reason why Muscovy was far more brutal in conquest of Novgorod than in conquest of steppes. Steppes already had identical political structure as Muscovy (which Muscovy just replaced) while Novgorod kept the Rus structure of power (which Muscovy had to destroy and rebuild their own). While Slavs where know from their democratic approach (in all other Slavic countries monarch powers where usually weak). The reverse case to Russian/Muscovy one is Hungary. They came from the steppes but with time more and more slavicisate their political institutions while preserving their language and mostly culture. This is why West Slavs usually had good relation with Hungarians. And yes, Russia tried as hard as it could to mongolize political institutions in conquered territories (Ruthenia, Baltic States, Poland etc.) and it is why in my opinion russification failed in the West of Russian Empire but succeeded in the East. Even though linguistically all Slavic languages are extremely close but absolutely all of somewhat politically aware people (who continue the Polish-Commonwealth political culture) absolutely disdained Russian despotism and authoritarianism. And in term of spreading Russian political culture most successful was Stalin, who just murder everybody who dared to think otherwise. But it only took 8 years of Ukraine being outside Russian political sphere to simple Ukrainian folk never wanting it back. And even it Russia will conquer all of Ukraine (which will happen eventually if Russian government will be determined enough) de-Slavisation of Ukrainian politics will take decades. Basically what happened in Ukraine between 2004 and 2022 reversed all "progress" Stalin made in Central and Eastern Ukraine. And Russian despotism and authoritarianism is in my opinion the reason of contempt towards Russians from other Slavs and it is reason why Russian "Slavness" is often questioned. And this why I personally would be sympathetic towards some kind of pan-Balto-Slavic political union (which could also entail Romanians, Hungarians and Estonians) but any Russian influence in that project would jeopardise all those nations existence. So this is reason why you may sometimes hear "Pan-Slavism yes, as long we don't consider Russians to be Slavs", otherwise Pan-Slavism is just a way to expand Russia and Russian political culture. *which was granted the status of the most important Russian principality by Golden Horde, so eventual success of Muscovy and reason why Moscow is centre of Russian culture and power is due to Sultan Giyas al-Din Mohammed Öz Beg grating Muscovy hereditary supremacy over other Russian principalities in exchange for extreme loyalty from Iván I Danilovich Kalitá and his heirs.
@divyamansinghsen2912
@divyamansinghsen2912 2 года назад
Just how The mughal empire did not change the demographic of modern India and majority population of India is still Hindu . I can understand the similar circumstances cause the Mugal period (in which many steps were taken by them to change the demographic of India) India lasted more then the British Colonial India
@VicktoRUrosAndrijasevic
@VicktoRUrosAndrijasevic 2 года назад
Being from Balkan, it is very funny to me to see these language comparison charts, especially the one with months...
@arachnidsLor
@arachnidsLor 2 года назад
side thought , as a czech i find russian a bit easier to understand (at least some words and sentences) than polish. polish just sounds really odd to me. maybe its because im half german.. but yeah i dunno.
@fun_ghoul
@fun_ghoul 2 года назад
I would've thought Polish should sound pretty natural to a German speaker, given how much of your language they've borrowed! Lol
@tyskbulle
@tyskbulle 2 года назад
Danes, Swedes, Norwegians 1000AD: - You're not proper vikings, haha! Danes, Swedes, Norwegians 2000AD: - You're not proper vikings, haha!
@suggestiveguy
@suggestiveguy 2 года назад
Unrelated to the video,but what's your view of Armenians? The current russian goverment isn't very friendly to us,but i'd like to know what the people think
@Setarko
@Setarko 2 года назад
To be honest, I don't have any friends or close acquaintances who are Armenians, so I just have a neutral attitude towards them. I don't know about Putin, but in general Russians used to treat Armenians ns more positively than other people from the South Caucasus. At least in the last conflict 80% of the people I know definitely sympathetic to Armenia.
@inspector_beyond
@inspector_beyond 2 года назад
From many years of living alongsude Armenians (by living in North Caucasus region) my thoughts on Armenians are like this: Arrogant and conflict liking people, but loyal and if you are friends with one, you are also a friend of their friends.
@c0mbo
@c0mbo 2 года назад
I'm from Russia and We mostly don't care about politics and stuff. Many people listening to American music, watching American things on iphones designed in America. Of course there is a couple sillyes, who think, that their poorness came from USA presidents and politics. But you know, there's fool everywhere.
@tasse0599
@tasse0599 2 года назад
@@c0mbo Is this joke incidental or intentional?
@suggestiveguy
@suggestiveguy 2 года назад
@@tasse0599 i think he thought i said american lol
@allimohamed4654
@allimohamed4654 2 года назад
Habbi your videos are awesome! Thanks for the content!
@Gaming4Justice
@Gaming4Justice 2 года назад
9:50 those territories weren't under Polish rule for 400 years. On that map for example, Southern-Estonia was part of Commonwealth for.. 40 years?
@Dhjaru
@Dhjaru 2 года назад
Hes talking about ukraine-belarus? Did you listen
@mizukiri3199
@mizukiri3199 2 года назад
Croatians are descendants of Illyrians. Serbs came from outer space. Macedonians are descendants of Alexander the Great. Or so some "historians" claim...
@Tryputo404
@Tryputo404 2 года назад
I live in Poland. I'm having lots of conversations about politics and history, and not a single person have denied the Russian Slavness.
@ablorenz
@ablorenz 2 года назад
Brainless people who love to distort history for their own pleasure exist in this world. Most Ukrainians believe Russians are Finno-Ugric, and not Slavic. How is the Russian language Slavic then? Well nobody knows.
@Nobody32990
@Nobody32990 2 года назад
@@ablorenz it's called information war and this lie was made as a counter to russification efforts after partition of Commonwealth. Russian expansionism (to the extent) created this lie.
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 2 года назад
God bless you
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 2 года назад
@@Nobody32990 Those who lie created this, do no shift the blame.
@Nobody32990
@Nobody32990 2 года назад
@@Martina-Kosicanka I don't, I point out wider historical context conveniently omitted in the video.
@EscudoPadraoPrata
@EscudoPadraoPrata 2 года назад
Very good argument... But there are many genetic maps that link slavic Russians with almost all Europe to the west of the Elba in Germany
@cedrickropp
@cedrickropp 2 года назад
Funnily enough is that the commonly held belief is that Russian is a Slavic cultural group that originated through Swedish Varangian conquest which brought a uniting factor to the region which was previously more diverse and less settled. This happened through trade and prosperity brought through ties to the Byzantine empire and the Silk Road. This was the famed Kievan Rus and some believe the Rus in Russia is Norse and either stands for rowing (since they were the people that rowed down the Dnieper to trade with the Byzantines) or that the Rurikids were of the tribe of the Rus or the Rus is derived from the Rurikids. In response to that the Russian Khaganate theory popped up trying to prove the Slavicness of Russia via saying:“hey we got this Arabic scholar who at some point maybe was in the Eastern European steps and wrote about a Khan of the Russians, so it is only logically that the Russian ethnicity and cultural identity is derived from the migration into Western Europe and it could never have been just a mistake from a complete outsider and stranger to the culture who had no real interest in representing the culture and lands accurately through the eyes of a Russian. That is also why he is right, I am wrong, the Russian chronicles are wrong and Sweden sucks and Germanic people are an illusion by the Khazar Jews who secretly control Germany and are trying to destroy the Russian identity by genociding Poles. That’s how it must have happened right?! Just to make things clear*, *and by clear I mean thousands of unorganized words that were cobbled together in a rambly manner that puts any pseudo scientist to shame The Rurikids were a Norse dynasty that came to the Region of Russia for one reason or another and thrived there for many centuries, they assimilated into the Slavic population and laid the foundation for a future Russian State by introducing common laws the slovaniscan pravada if I am not mistaken, if I am please correct me on that, a common language for ceremonial stuff (or at least lead to its spread) which was old Church Slavonic, later they converted to orthodox Christianity because of their ties to Byzantium and generally lead a powerful un-centralized political entity that ruled over large parts of Eastern Europe. (Which also makes Poland older than Russia by about 3 or so centuries) They brought some Germanic and Norse customs to the Region which have been documented, like boat burials which is one of the many reasons Russia is in many ways different from Western Slavic nations. Since the beginning the developments in the region tended towards the Greeks instead of the Roman West, aka Catholic vs Orthodox and the Rurikids are responsible for most of those developments (! I am not saying that Russians are a Germanic people, if someone thinks that they are they are stupid and should be slapped with some rotten Swedish fish to remind them that German supremacy is not a thing, because ofcourse they would either be German or bloody American!). Then came the Mongols and brought Mogol administration with them which included, getting raided, being extorted for what ever could not be taken in a raid and just generally getting trampled on, this laid the ground work for Russian Authoritarianism by destroying urban developments and generally meant that Russia would for ever be drawn towards the East. Where the Kievan Rus was a generally well developed Early Medieval society that had powerful cities and skilled craftsmen that made products that were traded along the Dnieper and the Baltic, a society that was fully feudal but had a distinct pagan flare, the Moscovite Russia was a country driven by serfdom and semi slavery. This was possible because the Mongols burned the Kievan Rus to the ground, which meant what came after was thoroughly Russian, but also not at all European. The Tsardom was a brutal and unforgiving regime and this Regime is what people feared, not the Russian people. It is easy to see why people wouldn’t call the Russian Tsardom Russia, because it was not really slavic, it lacked the necessary institutions like a powerful merchant class that could push for a liberal economy, it lacked the Catholic Church that provided a basic blueprint for what a state is and the oversight the church could have at times over especially tyrannical monarchs. Even to this day Poland is closer to Germany, a Nation that like Russia claims with its name to have jurisdiction over all the peoples with its name that is rooted in ethnicity and well to some extent genocide (in the broader sense less Nazis and more Prussian Crusaderstate that forcefully converts Prussians to Germans, in Germany the minorities were the sorbs and the Slavic peoples of Silesia), then to Russia even though there are many conflicts and much potential for conflict between the two, mostly because Russia is just a scary authoritarian nightmare who’s leadership structure didn’t really change since the Mogols declined. It’s sad to see peoples that have so much in common divided by just bad borders and terrible countries, Belarus and Russia are the last true dictatorships in Europe and it does not look like this is going to change any time soon.
@user-do7xs2mj1b
@user-do7xs2mj1b 2 года назад
I live in Belarus, before 5 years in Lithuania (also Germany and Spain) and you know I don't have any problems with our "dictatorship". In Russia situation is better, I mean that more soft.
@tyalikanky
@tyalikanky Год назад
Sounds like we got another flat earth strain. Automatic translation between Russian/Ukrainian and Polish/Chech is flawless. Languages are like 60% understandable. Only Bulgarian quite different due to no cases and analytical type
@southukraine9339
@southukraine9339 2 года назад
Those "funny pictures" are always not telling the full truth. Like at 9:05 Every slav says "Oko". Yes, it is true that Russians say "Glaz" but "Oko" is also a Russian word. It is another way of saying it! Russians say "Sobaka" for dogs. But they also say "Pes" like all the other Slavs! Also Russian traditional clothing looks nothing like Finnish traditional clothing!
@t.on.y
@t.on.y 2 года назад
Так эти картинки делаются богами индукции.
@denkapeneva2018
@denkapeneva2018 2 месяца назад
Yes but is skythian iranic origin the word pes bulgars !!!
@nikolas.3223
@nikolas.3223 2 года назад
If Ukrainians follow the ideology of Franciszek Duchinsky, then they must give up half of the territory of Ukraine. That man (Polish chauvinist) said that everything east of the Dnieper River is inhabited by Muscovites. According to that ideology, the Muscovites inhabit 50% of today's Ukraine.
@solis9482
@solis9482 2 года назад
No one even knows Duchincky in Ukraine , dude He's polish , not ukrainian
@gasalsvift5356
@gasalsvift5356 2 года назад
what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared.
@ablorenz
@ablorenz 2 года назад
why are you even taking the words of some Polish plumber seriously
@monke3842
@monke3842 2 года назад
5:12 "Russian do not understand the languages of other slavs" so Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine, Bosnia and Croatia and slovenia to a lesser extent do not exist ? I am Bulgarian not Russian
@coa8752
@coa8752 2 года назад
I don't know wether the russians can understand us but I as a serb can't understand anything they say except some occasional words
@user-rm4wj1gi7z
@user-rm4wj1gi7z 2 года назад
@@coa8752 I am russian and we can relatively easy understand only belorussian and ukrainian. Ukrainian sounds funny though, so we sometimes watch comedies in it just for lulz
@am1d
@am1d 2 года назад
@@coa8752 I am a native speaker of Rus along with two other languages, who has never lived in any Slavic country (incl. Russia) and I don't understand any of the slavic languages. Funny thing is, when my Russian friends claim to understand Ukr or Belarus, I ask them what they understood from a sentence and all they can come up with is one word out of ten which has almost 100% match with Russian. Like, no shit, Sherlock. In that case, I understand it too. Some people are just full of shit and don't know what they are talking about.
@macanaeh
@macanaeh 2 года назад
@@am1d Well, our languages are quite close (over 60% vocabular similiarity I believe) and it would make sense that we understand the parts that are similiar? Like, what? Obviously if you didn't study the language you wouldn't know the parts of it that are not similiar to yours? And while I understand nearly 100% of Ukrainian I encounter, I am not quite able to come up with it on the go, because understanding and speaking the language are two different things and one does not necessarily translate into other? Like, hell, I understand quite a bit of Serbian, doesn't mean I speak it tho. Plus it's the same for other languages of the same language group, like French and Italian, or English and Dutch. No shit there's not a 100% comprehension, these are different languages, Sherlock
@gasalsvift5356
@gasalsvift5356 2 года назад
what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared in our World
@Blazo_Djurovic
@Blazo_Djurovic 2 года назад
Some Slavs: Russians aren't Slavs. Serb: BSOD Ehhhhhhhhhhhh?!?! Does not compute. Let's be real people, lexical differences are there because we learned/re acquaintanced ourselves of different concepts from different people at different times. It's down to who was our occupier to from whom do we draw our influences. Because let me tell you, from the Southern perspective Western Slavic languages are kinda less intelligible than Eastern ones. No not because "they are not really Slavs", but more because they operated for last 1000 years in the Western culture and society. Meanwhile we kinda relearned of each other with Eastern ones via Orthodox church and even that is kinda marginal.
@mehanikal5639
@mehanikal5639 2 года назад
Serbs share some vocabulary with West slavs, mostly with Slovak. East Slavic got into Serbian language via Slavenosrpski. Edit: i understand Slovak, more than Russian.
@ZeLeninovoMasoveRizoto
@ZeLeninovoMasoveRizoto 2 года назад
True. As a Czech, I don't really have a problem with understanding Slovenian, Rusyn or Ukrainian, but depending on how much further you go, the languages become less and less intelligible. Bulgarian and Macedonian hold the record, with Russian being close second, but even with the huge lexical differences the grammar structure and basic vocabulary remain the same.
@gasalsvift5356
@gasalsvift5356 2 года назад
what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared in our World
@frostflower5555
@frostflower5555 2 года назад
What does bsod mean? If you look at Czech and Slovak toponyms you will be amazed at the similarities with the toponyms in former Yugoslavia. It's like they were the same group at one time.
@Blazo_Djurovic
@Blazo_Djurovic 2 года назад
@@frostflower5555 BSOD = Blue Screen of Death. Colloquialy it's used for when someone is dazed by something stunning. I mean, nobody is disputing that we all share the same protolanguage. It's just that the most recent significant interaction with the Western group was thousand years ago, if we ignore the short stint where half the Western and half the Southern group were part of A-H Empire.
@user-gq6rv5wp2p
@user-gq6rv5wp2p 2 года назад
I'm ethnic non-Russian living in Russia. And when they call Russians Finno Ugric this makes me puzzled. Because it's me and some other about 2 mln guys who are Finno-Ugric. And even speak a Finno-Ugric language which has nothing to do with Russian
@DVXDemetrivs
@DVXDemetrivs 2 года назад
разве? я думал мы имели друг на друга влияние в виде заимствования слов в языках
@user-gq6rv5wp2p
@user-gq6rv5wp2p 2 года назад
@@DVXDemetrivs влияние есть, но основа всё равно останется. Как на уровне внешности, так и структуры языка. Марийцы, например, иногда обладают таким лицом, которое ни с кем не спутаешь. А язык у нас агглютинативный, а не как у русских флективный. А когда мариец говорит на русском, то делает это с таким акцентом, который сразу отличает марийца от русского. Если он, конечно, деревенский не обрусевший. Я городской, но когда неделю в деревне безвылазно сижу, тоже потом ещё неделю говорю с акцентом по инерции, когда возвращаюсь
@DVXDemetrivs
@DVXDemetrivs 2 года назад
@@user-gq6rv5wp2p нет я не спорю что национальное разграничение присутствует, если бы его не было бы одни русские или кто нибудь ещё(я просто говорю взаимовлияние тоже весьма сильное присуствует). Скажу честно ни разу не слышал марийский акцент ) Далеко живу
@user-gq6rv5wp2p
@user-gq6rv5wp2p 2 года назад
@@DVXDemetrivs не мудрено) тут люди иной раз про самих марийцев не слышали, не то что акцент)
@smorcknight9547
@smorcknight9547 2 года назад
@@DVXDemetrivs финно-угорское вдияние на русский язык довольно мало, даже на фоне тюркского влияния. В частности, это именно русский (и древне-русский) влиял на финно-угорские, в т.ч на финнский, чем наоборот.
@horseradish4046
@horseradish4046 Год назад
"Russians are not Slavs" because it's much easier for Ukrainian Ultra-Nationalists to explain to people that they're fighting a century-old conflict against Asiatic Finno-Urgic barbaric Muskal subhumans than against their own kin who just happen to have different political views.
@walkingmoai
@walkingmoai Год назад
Don't try to make russia look like the victim
@paulbadman8509
@paulbadman8509 Год назад
​@@walkingmoai except they are.
@paulbadman8509
@paulbadman8509 Год назад
​@@endriu628 fake news.
@user-jg9nj9ne1e
@user-jg9nj9ne1e Год назад
@@paulbadman8509 Русские не славяне успокоися брат
@horseradish4046
@horseradish4046 Год назад
​@@walkingmoai Literally no where in my comment did I make anyone look like anything. All I said is that ethnic classifications are often politically motivated.
@mishacol
@mishacol 2 года назад
Old Soviet joke. Kids of different countries are given the task to write an essay on elephants. UK: "Industrial use of elephants" France: "Sexual life of elephants" Germany: "Elephants are predecessors of tanks" USSR: "Russia is the birthplace of elephants"
@isadanjan4762
@isadanjan4762 2 года назад
if we talk about Russians in general, they have a difference, but this difference is manifested only in the northern part of Russia, which differs by Y-chromosome from the residents of the center and below the regions. Basically, genetics is based on Slavic, only northern Russia (Vologda-Arkhangelsk) tends to another cluster of populations.
@leonixnn
@leonixnn 2 года назад
That Indian example was very much on point!
@The0riginalTwo
@The0riginalTwo 2 года назад
So if Russian people are closer to Finns than slavs and the Hungarian language is closer to Finnic than Slavic, does that make Hungarians also Finns? (Sarcasm btw)
@ablorenz
@ablorenz 2 года назад
The fact that Russians have Finnic blood is not a lie. Northern Russians are in fact Nordic. Russians are mostly Baltic-Finnic by genes, with some Scandinavian and Slavic admixture, who later assimilated to the Slavic culture and now speak a Slavic language. Russians are too white to be Slavic, Slavs are mostly dark-skinned peoples.
@The0riginalTwo
@The0riginalTwo 2 года назад
@@ablorenz I was not claiming they didnt have Finnic blood, of course they do. Finland was a part of the Russian Empire as “grand duchy of Finland” for a considerable amount of time and until the collapse. I wouldn’t consider Russians Nordic though, even Finns are barely Nordic in the stricter definitions. Russians of course have a considerable amount of Finn and Uralic blood, but you also have to consider that there is a gradual shift from Nordic to Finn to Karelian before you get to “ethnic Russians”. Its a long way and a lot of ethnic diversity between north-western Finland and St.Petersburg.
@YamnayaSintash
@YamnayaSintash 3 месяца назад
@@ablorenz If you think Russians are finno ugric mongol turks or whatever LOOK AT THE HAPLOGROUPS. Russia has more of R1A (aka the majority haplogroup of Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Czechia and Slovakia) THAN ALL OF THE BALKAN SLAVS, but Ukrainians will never say the Balkaners are not Slavs lol, because they are disgusting fcking hypocrites. In fact, why stop there? Lets use similar logic with Ukraine as an example. The lands of what is todays Ukraine was inhabited by Pechenegs, Bulgars, Tatars, Cumans, Avars, Huns, Scythians, Sarmations and Mongols.. Yeah, so because all these people groups lived in Ukrainian land, Ukrainians are not Slavs, they are mongrel Turks lol. The Russian language is made up of eastern slavic dialects mixed in with Old Church Slavonic, because Russia (muscovy) became the leaders of the orthodox chruch after byzantine, so the Old Church Slavonic (old bulgarian) was a more important language as the lingua franka for Christian Slavs.
@ScottJB
@ScottJB 2 года назад
European countries are insistent on gatekeeping ethnic boundaries to an absurd extent. It all boils down to feeling like you're a special member of an exclusive group that has the position to leave out people who want to be in it.
@falsereligion113
@falsereligion113 Год назад
We remember one Austrian artist with similar desires 🥶
@billybobwombat2231
@billybobwombat2231 Год назад
Kinda like the US aye
@ScottJB
@ScottJB Год назад
@@billybobwombat2231 US is the opposite. You can spend your entire life in a different culture, go to the US, become a citizen in 5-10 years, and then you are American, full stop. Your parents could be from Japan, Nigeria, or Nicaragua, and if you're born in the US, you are an American, full stop. Neither of those is fully true for European countries. Shit, I've even heard several times of first generation children of Europeans in the US who've gone back to their parents' country and been told they don't belong there even though they grew up speaking that language, with those traditions, etc.
@billybobwombat2231
@billybobwombat2231 Год назад
@@ScottJB tell that to your south, not a whole lot of tolerance through there, I saw it and felt the opposite on my travels through that part of the world.
@marcusaurelius4941
@marcusaurelius4941 Год назад
inter-European banter still lives on and we still are preoccupied with all this bullshit
@YummYakitori
@YummYakitori 2 года назад
Russians are indeed mixed with Finno-Ugric peoples, but so what? LOL. North Russians (especially in areas like Arkhangelsk Oblast, St Petersburg, Karelia etc.) are indeed genetically cluster closer to Finno-Ugric peoples because they had ancestors which were Russified over time in history, but Central and especially South Russians have been shown to cluster more closely with other Slavic peoples like Ukrainians and Belarusians. Also the Rurikids (Rurik, Yaroslav the Wise, Vsevolod the Big Nest, Alexander Nevsky, Ivan the Terrible etc.) have been found to belong to Y-DNA Haplogroup N1c1 which is most typical among Finno-Ugric peoples (rather than Haplogroup R1a or I2 which is most typical for Slavs and I1 for Swedes) - yes viking themselves were very mixed and it defined a job rather than a singular ethnic group - and that included some Finno-Ugric peoples as well, including the ancestors of Rurikids who probably became Norse vikings in and around the Uppsala area of Sweden.
@MorrocanDarijaArab
@MorrocanDarijaArab Год назад
Ukraine was also occupied by mongols
@POCKET-SAND
@POCKET-SAND Год назад
Yes, briefly. Then the Lithuanians and Poles occupied most of it, especially the Western part.
@MorrocanDarijaArab
@MorrocanDarijaArab Год назад
@@POCKET-SAND the mongols ruled most of Ukraine for 123 years some parts longer some parts of Ukraine became mongol ( Crimean tatars ) who lived around the Black Sea learn history 123 years is not briefly
@POCKET-SAND
@POCKET-SAND Год назад
@@MorrocanDarijaArab Brief compared to how long they ruled the Moskals.
@MorrocanDarijaArab
@MorrocanDarijaArab Год назад
@@POCKET-SAND the ottomans ruled the Bulgarians and Serbs for 500 hundred years and they are fine Witch is less then the mongols ruled the Russians the mongols also ruled Persia and the Caucasus nations And you don’t call any of them mongols And it’s Russian not moskal deal with it
@vanhelsing5469
@vanhelsing5469 2 года назад
judging by genetic studies, we can say that yes, Russians are not Slavs. Only from the northern part of Russia. (West)
@Stevenkuklinski
@Stevenkuklinski Год назад
No retard. Genetic studies show they are related to other slavs like Ukrainians and Poles.
@andreilukyanov4286
@andreilukyanov4286 6 месяцев назад
The Russians from the Northern part of Russia are Slavs. Slavs are the ethno-linguistic community, not a genetics. Having some Uralo-Finnic genetics doesn't make you a Finn. Yakuts have 90% Uralo-Finnic genetics, while they are a Turkic people.
@IDO547
@IDO547 2 года назад
I once heard that a Slavic country can’t be Slavic if they don’t hate their neighbour Slavic country and if that’s true this basically means that they are all Slavic...
@moisuomi
@moisuomi 2 года назад
My country Finland borders Russia and we hate their guts, we aren’t slavs
@IDO547
@IDO547 2 года назад
@@moisuomi wasnt talking about you guys
@mainmeasurement4388
@mainmeasurement4388 3 месяца назад
Slavs are $lave$. Fact.
@anthiekladaki1051
@anthiekladaki1051 2 года назад
If we use the same logic on south slavs, they shouldn't be considered slavs but illyrians/thracians and other balkan nations , and west slavs are very mixed with germans and baltics
@gasalsvift5356
@gasalsvift5356 2 года назад
what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared in our World
@pickxd2035
@pickxd2035 2 года назад
Southern Slavs are not genetically Slavs at all "I1".They have a high component of Anatolian Neolithic farmers.They are descendants of Illyrians, Hittites.About the Western Slavs and the Balts.It is believed that the Balto-Slavic branch comes from the same ancestors-the Fatyan culture and for about 2500 years there was a common great-Balto-Slavic language.Therefore, these languages are called Balto/Slavic.
@glebb..3416
@glebb..3416 6 месяцев назад
@@gasalsvift5356 the ukrainian language has more borrowings then Russian, even the ukrainian word "djiakuje" comes from the German word "Danke". If Russians only appeared in 1795 then ukrainians by that logic only appeared in 1922. Your comment is a rumbling that does not make any sense. The language comparisson is funny because it can be made about every slavic language. ukraine was its whole history ruled by Germans, Polish, Lithuanians, Turks, Russians and more, you can see those influences on the ukrainian language. The whole world recognizes Russians as Slavs, and everyone knows that Rus consisted of Russia, Belarus and ukraine. Only ukrainians cry about it. Havent you noticed?
@Cardan011
@Cardan011 2 года назад
Anglo Germanic historians whenever Slavs are in question always have this dismissive view like nothing is Slavic one day portal opens and bunch of Slavs just appeared
@CharlesHapsburg
@CharlesHapsburg Год назад
Anglos don’t give a fuck about Slavic culture? Stop virtue signalling you incel, we don’t have anything to do with your culture and I’m absolutely glad for that.
@mainmeasurement4388
@mainmeasurement4388 3 месяца назад
Но ведь это правда, никаких славян не существует. Даже если они когда-то и существовали, то давно вымерли и перемешались с разными приграничными народами. Все эти "славяне" - просто аутсайдеры мировой цивилизации и культуры...
@septimijemacvanin8084
@septimijemacvanin8084 3 месяца назад
As a Serb, I never use the term Slav, because in history that term was not used. There were also designations LEŠANIN - A PEOPLE who lived in the mountains and forests, Poljani - a people who lived in the fields, since the people lived by the rivers, they bore those names. Next to Drina - Podrinci, Next to Morava - Moravci, Elbe - Polabci, etc. There was also a division on the issue of language, the same language and those who are mute....the end
@Cardan011
@Cardan011 2 года назад
So Serb here did one of those dna tests and it came out 100% Balkans with for some reason population of Peloponnesus in Greece as closest match. Also usual Bosnia, Serbia , Montenegro and Croatia and also Romania . But for some reason Peloponnesus was top…
@RodrigoDavy
@RodrigoDavy 2 года назад
I've been watching this channel for quite a while and I was always impressed by the quality of the videos, only now I realized it's quite a smaller channel than I thought You, sir, deserve way more followers and views! Thanks for teaching more and more about Russia :)
@gasalsvift5356
@gasalsvift5356 2 года назад
what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared.
@BunillaMisaki
@BunillaMisaki Год назад
As a Czech person, I feel that Czechs and Poles generally only understand each other when they are given no other choice. So for example in my UK school there was a Czech girl who became really good friends with the Polish kids because I refused to just speak Czech with her (for complex reasons for another day) and so she went and made friends with the polish kids because they both didn't speak English that well but could understand each other ok and started listening out for similarities more. I couldn't understand the Polish kids on the other hand because by the time I had an opportunity to be friends with kids from my neck of the woods I already spoke English fluently so there was no drive to look for those language similarities. Similarly while living in czech I remember never being able to understand Slovakians (even though our languages are nearly the same), but once I moved to the UK, it somehow magically became easy to understand them. What I'm trying to say is that the way people experience/perceive similarities in languages is in my opinion greatly influenced by context and necessity.
@user-tr9oe9dj2y
@user-tr9oe9dj2y Год назад
K podivu, jako rusak, který umí česky, rozumím polštině líp než slovenštině
@user-ld1wd1dn4i
@user-ld1wd1dn4i 2 года назад
Someone already pointed this out but in 0:36 when you say "Serbs", you are showing a clip of Bulgarians, not Serbs.
@mudra5114
@mudra5114 2 года назад
I had read somewhere that many Russians from North West are of Baltic ancestry. Slavified Balts. I do not know if this is true.
@cianakril
@cianakril 2 года назад
Finno-Ugorian, actually. And this is true for the Northern European Russia, where population has up to 25% Uralic DNAs, while culture has strong Uralic influence. Southern European Russia isn't that much different from the Slavic continuity up to Eastern Germany. East of the Urals in Siberia it may be anything, nobody really cares actually, since Russia was multiethnic from the get go while genetic diversity is a natural advantage.
@abbanta3002
@abbanta3002 2 года назад
@@cianakril i think he means the region of Russia boarders Baltic countries.. not northern Karelia.. plus Many Russians in the north have no uralic ancestry because they possibly moved to that region as it was part of the Russian empire, ussr etc
@abbanta3002
@abbanta3002 2 года назад
@@cianakril “where population has up to 25% Uralics DNA” plz show a source that says that.. finns themselves r mistaken to be uralic when its only their language and no their dna
@cianakril
@cianakril 2 года назад
@@abbanta3002 Balanovsky, O; Rootsi, S; Pshenichnov, A; et al. (January 2008). "Two sources of the Russian patrilineal heritage in their Eurasian context"
@Nobody32990
@Nobody32990 2 года назад
Duchinsky's thesis and stance towards Russia makes much more sense if we take into context the fact, that Poles in his life time fought tooth and nail for their independence. Including intellectual arena.
@FOLIPE
@FOLIPE 2 года назад
It can be explained by that but it still doesn't make sense
@Nobody32990
@Nobody32990 2 года назад
@@FOLIPE as any lie.
@cathaneisdying
@cathaneisdying 2 года назад
Polish plumber shut up.
@Nobody32990
@Nobody32990 2 года назад
@@cathaneisdying nah
@andreilukyanov4286
@andreilukyanov4286 6 месяцев назад
"that Poles in his life time fought tooth and nail for their independence" I have no problem with Poles who fought for their independence. But Duchinsky made up lies and PRETENDED it to be history and that is the problem.
@SRBINPZS
@SRBINPZS 2 года назад
There is no such things as a pure Slavs, we are all mixed. And DNA is older then any nation or ethno-linguistic groups, so it doesn’t make anyone more or less Slavic. We Balkans Slavs also mixed with locals when we moved to the Balkans.
@nebulapony1264
@nebulapony1264 2 года назад
Setarko why are you not more popular idk if you'll see this but I love your channel never stop it keeps me going and its so funny and interesting. I'm feeling really emotional rn I guess. Setarko simp
@kuzmanovskinikolce
@kuzmanovskinikolce 2 месяца назад
The terms "Slaves," "Slav," "Slavjani," and "Slavni" historically refer to a diverse group of individuals predominantly associated with the Macedonian populace, alongside allied groups such as the Dardanians, Illyrians, Thrachians, Epirotes, and Thessalians. The etymology of these terms can be traced back to the period following the conquest of the Kingdom of Macedonia by the Roman Empire. During this time, a notable practice involved the procession of gold and enslaved individuals from Macedonia through Rome, wherein Macedonians, distinguished by their association with Alexander the Great, served as exotic exemplars to the Roman populace. Consequently, the designation "Slaven," derived from the native Macedonian name, became synonymous with fame or renown, particularly in the context of Alexander's legacy. This linguistic association extended into the English language and the broader ex-Latin world, where "Slave" acquired connotations of renown akin to "Alexander." However, it is noteworthy that while "Slaven" attained this significance in the Western linguistic sphere, its equivalence to "Slave" is not universally applicable across all Eastern Slavic languages. In Latin, the term for "slave" is "Servus," leading to subsequent historical shifts wherein Latin historians replaced references to Macedonia with "Servus," eventually contributing to the emergence of the toponym "Serbia" as a Latinized rendition of "Slaven." Subsequent to the Roman conquest, a significant exodus of individuals from the region ensued, with many seeking refuge in northward and northeastward directions, ultimately settling beyond the confines of Roman dominion. From the 8th century AD onwards, a gradual migration of these Slavic (Macedonian) populations back to their homeland commenced, facilitated by linguistic affinities and the relative similarity of dialects, culminating in their resettlement.
@Stozanume123
@Stozanume123 2 года назад
Hey setarko maybe you can make a video about Anaklasniki or how I call it "The russian Facebook"
@yumallah
@yumallah 2 года назад
Odnoklassniki? Bro, the stereotype here in Russia is that it's a social media used exclusively by old people, and the thing is that it's true. The title of 'Russian Facebook' has always traditionally been attributed to VKontakte, or VK, for short. Which it practically is, having been originally been conceived by Pavel Durov as the direct copy of the original Facebook (being a meeting space for students of local universities).
@eddelapena22
@eddelapena22 2 года назад
9:50 I'm not Polish, but nice pronunciation of Rzeczpospolita
@gasalsvift5356
@gasalsvift5356 2 года назад
what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared in our World
@user-gk2vw6cz6d
@user-gk2vw6cz6d 2 года назад
@@gasalsvift5356 Lol why are you spamming this wall of text everywhere
@t.on.y
@t.on.y 2 года назад
@@user-gk2vw6cz6d He is probably one of the ignorant russian. We call them ukrainians.
@xijinping880
@xijinping880 Год назад
He pronounced it wrong
@Federxon
@Federxon 2 года назад
I don't understand to that Slavism, in my opinion it's a bit outdated construct similar to Pangermanism . I don't know what a Dutchman would say if you said in a documentary about georaphy that The Netherlands is the little brother of Germany and England, or a report about the USA that it is the big brother and economical leader of Anglo-Saxon family. :-D :-D I think that, for example, there is a similar difference between the Czech guy, the Northern Macedonian and the Russian as between the Austrian, Swedish, and the people from the USA. Or Italian, French and Argentine. Same language group, but different countries and histories. I think the people of a country are most similar to their neighbors, mostly.
@frostflower5555
@frostflower5555 2 года назад
10:19 Mushroom in Serbian/Croatian=Gljiva (fungus) but the common word is Pečurka.
@ianangelini1554
@ianangelini1554 2 года назад
Not true, i have Ukrainian and Russian origins by mother side, I know Russian language and I understood a friend of mine when she talked in polish. I have another friend that he is Slovenian, i understood even a bit of slovenian when he talked in is language. "Muh Russians not slavs, muh Russian language is not Slavic"
@isadanjan4762
@isadanjan4762 2 года назад
An extensive analysis of the Russian pool of paternal lines presented here establishes the following general features: (1) the insignificance of the eastern gene flow, emphasized by the absence of typical haplogroups of Eastern and Central Asia; (2) well-pronounced gradients from north to south of specific haplogroups in the historical Russian region; (3) division of its general diversity into northern and central-southern populations; (4) the proximity of the northern populations to the Northeastern and eastern non-Slavic populations, which implies extensive assimilation or even direct language change; Russian Russians (5) lower Y-chromosomal variations throughout central-southern historical Russia compared to high variations among northern Russians; (6) proximity, achievement of virtual coincidence in the MDS plot, in the Y-chromosomal variation between central-southern Russians with Ukrainians, Belarusians and Poles; and (7) this significant intra-ethnic differentiation of the North Russian population is the only exception to the rule found; in the broader European context, interethnic (mainly linguistic) differences strongly prevail. Russian Russians' Y-chromosome pool in their historical settlement zone is predominantly a composite composite of their Proto-Slavic heritage and, in particular, in the Russian North, extensive admixture with Finno-Ugric speakers. This bipartite scenario of the main sources of origin of modern ethnic Russians is supported by the analysis of classical markers presented here and can be used as a working hypothesis for a better understanding of the genetic diversity and demographic history of Eurasian populations. Its patrilineal aspect can be further clarified by a detailed study of STR variations in phylogenetic biliallel haplogroups, although new informative SNPs should be identified for deeper progress, in particular, given that only a small part of the Y chromosome has been studied so far for markers potentially informative for phylogeographic research3. www.cell.com/fulltext/S0002-9297%2807%2900025-0
@doggoeu4
@doggoeu4 11 месяцев назад
Cope harder
@jacobjonesofmagna
@jacobjonesofmagna 2 года назад
"Each side refuses to do the actual research" So you're saying the researched answer doesn't exist regardless?
@jellydarling1008
@jellydarling1008 2 года назад
the clearest thing to me is that people will use the pettiest nonsense to pick a fight.
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